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| − | Welcome! God Bless + everyone who accesses this page! --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] 12:18, 3 October 2014 (EDT)
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| − | :''Note: this contributor has permanently withdrawn from Conservapedia. See'' [[User talk:Dataclarifier/Archive 01#Eyesight|'''eyesight''']]
| + | == How are you guys doing? == |
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| − | == On whether Baptism regenerates or is to be understood as merely symbolic == | + | Hi Dataclarifier, I'm just wondering, how are you, your mother, and I.S. doing? I haven't talked to you nor IndependentSkeptic for over a week now, and I hope all is well for you guys! God Bless! —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">Liberaltears</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 01:59, 30 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| − | Hi DataClarifier. Hope you are well. If you have time, please look through this page. It is a non-polemical exploration of the question of whether baptism justifies or is meant to be understood as symbolic: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:_Does_Baptism_regenerate_or_is_it_symbolic%3F I would like to compile and collate 10 texts in all - and currently have mentioned 5 - so please let me know if any Scriptural passages skipped my mind. Opposing views are welcome as well, so we can all arrive at a deeper understanding of the Word. God Bless. (<small>''unsigned comment posted by NishantXavier 4 June 2020''</small>)
| + | == Email authenticity confirmation == |
| − | :I posted on the talk page there a link to my [[Essay: Water baptism cannot save, the Church cannot save, Born again by faith alone]] as a resource, along with a link to [[Infant baptism]] which also includes several supportive Bible texts linked and quoted. I see you have used several of the texts I cited in both those articles and on their talk pages. Well done!. I do not know if you actually used these or if the other 5 texts occurred to you apart from them. The result on the Debate page has been impressive. Thanks for your work. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:51, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
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| − | I hope you come back, Data Clarifier. I've really enjoyed your Harmony of the Gospel writings, and other articles and edits on many subjects. For others, regarding Sola Scriptura, Catholics don't believe in it for good reasons, as is well known. We believe in Scripture+Apostolic Tradition as interpreted by the Magisterium of the Church, as the Apostles themselves command in many places. When the dispute in the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) over circumcision broke out, the Apostles didn't say "let everyone go home and read and privately interpret the Scripture according to his own private judgment", but rather they issued a binding decision of the Church in Council that all were to accept. In this way, St. Peter and the Apostles exercised the Power of the Keys that God granted St. Peter in Mat 16, to bind and loose, and the whole Church accepted one doctrine. We do believe all Scripture is the inspired and inerrant Word of God. But we do not believe it to be subject to unauthorized private interpretation, but only the Church is Authorized by Christ to interpret it infallibly, by the Power of the Keys. But regardless, inter-denominational differences should be discussed fraternally imho. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:36, 11 June 2020 (EDT)
| + | Hi Dataclarifier, this post is to confirm that the email I just sent you was authentic and not from an imposter. '''''Semper fi!''''' —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">'''LT'''</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 00:45, 20 October 2020 (EDT) |
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| − | :I'll even shamefully admit, a few years ago I was asked by a Christian group to participate in a foot washing service down at the Rescue Mission for homeless people. I couldn't bring myself to do it. But I have no doubt my black Christian brothers and sisters getting their feet washed (most of them) do not view white Christians washing their feet as Democrats groveling for votes or Maoist self-criticism, as some conservative bigots advertised it. I might have questions about the timing of this latest event, but that's for God to decide, and I'm probably wrong there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 13:58, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
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| − | | + | We would appreciate your input at [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Proposal]]. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 19:59, 1 February 2021 (EST) |
| − | It's good that race relations have improved today, although they could be better still. Yes, to wash the feet of others is a very good thing. Priests do it on Holy Thursday in remembrance of the Love and Humility of Our Lord and His Command. All racial hatred of others is gravely wrong. Promoting racial harmony and brotherly love in society is a Christian duty. There is in the end one race above all: the human race. And we must strive to promote the brotherhood of man under the Fatherhood of God in Christ Jesus Our Lord. Without taking seriously the commandment to love our neighbor as our self, civilization is impossible. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:04, 12 June 2020 (EDT)
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| − | == Introducing Conservapedia's Own Project 150 Million Souls for Christ our King == | |
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| − | Hello Michael. Hope you are well in the Lord. Thanks for all your efforts over the years in defending and promoting the Catholic and Christian Faith, the Full Gospel and the Holy Church. I pray for your health and well-being. I hope you are not suffering much, and you will always be in my prayers, dear brother.
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| − | I write today to introduce a project page for Conservapedia that Andy asked me to create: https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:150_Million_Souls_for_Christ_the_King It's about a prayer and action plan over the next 10 to 15 years to win 150 Million Souls for Christ the King. Please participate by sharing your testimony for our King. It can be as brief or as lengthy as you like. :)
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| − | The internet offers huge opportunities. It is predicted internet evangelism will be more successful in leading souls to Christ than all over forms in the next decade. St. Francis Xavier, my namesake, won some 3 million souls for Christ in India, my home country. If St. Francis Xavier was here today, with television, radio and internet, and buses, trains and planes, in his missionary journeys, he would win 300 million probably. But we can all play a part in leading at least a few souls to Christ, and Each Soul led to Christ will be like a Jewel in the Crown of Righteousness (2 Tim 4:8) laid up for each of us in heaven. There is hardly anything greater we can do for Christ than bringing souls to Him. Please participate and ask others also.
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| − | May Jesus and Mary richly Bless you. In the Lord and His Mother, in the Angels and the Saints, in the Holy Souls in Purgatory and Holy Innocents, Nishant Xavier. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:54, 15 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :Perhaps you're familiar with Christ Renews His Parish CRHP weekend retreats. I attended one somewhat reluctantly and was tremendously edified to discover that there is such a thing as Christian male community. I afterward joined the next men's formation team for the following CRHP weekend retreat schduled to occur 6 months later. Part of that formation was what is called "history and faith sharing" in which one by one we each were invited to tell our faith-journey, as much or as little as we wished, with the strict condition that nothing we shared was to be repeated outside to anyone else. When each of the guys finished his "testimony" and sat down we each responded with personal comments of support and appreciation for what they had said and what God had done in their lives and prayed with them briefly. However, when I gave my faith and history story and sat down, there was stunned silence. One of the men, studying for the diaconate, leaned forward with a shocked expression on his face and said, "Please don't misunderstand me, but why aren't you insane or dead?" I had been honest, and as my fellow Christian Catholic brothers they still accepted me. Reliving the details of what I had experienced and how Christ had saved me was a shattering experience. My hands trembled all the next day. But a week later, when we met again, one of the men told me that he'd had nightmares for 3 nights because of what I had said. A few years before my CRHP weekend I had been told by my spiritual director in private spiritual direction, "Mike, please do yourself and other people a favor: DO NOT give the details of your past. Most priests I know can't handle what you know. And I believe you." I promised I wouldn't. But I had been persuaded to disobey him when I told my story confidentially to these men with complete trust in the formation team for CRHP. I have firmly decided to never do that again. There is such a thing as "toxic knowledge" that once you have come to know it you wish to God with all your heart that you had never been exposed to that knowledge or experience. Abbreviated parts of my conversion experience I've posted in pieces on several CP talk pages. You're welcome to quote any of them. I hereby grant you for that project my permission to you to do so. Please understand that each time I posted parts of my story I left out a lot. Posting it was a spontaneous act. I could not actually sit down and compose my conversion story in response to a request. I have also told only some of it one-on-one during a friendly conversation. But as welcome as your proposal is, please understand that I would rather not participate. Believe me, it just simply would not be a good idea. I was once asked innocently "What were you before your conversion." I said, "I was evil." They thought I was joking. I wasn't. Jesus brought me from profound darkness into his own "marvelous light". That will have to be enough, along with what you can glean from my contributions to my own and other article talk pages. God be with you. ''Pax vobis'' Semper Fi! --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 05:34, 15 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | I do understand, Mike, that some things are to be kept secret or not openly disclosed. But we know Our Lord said if we confess Him before men, He will confess us before our Father. For myself, I would really appreciate it if, as a favor to me, you could put it in just a few sentences of encouragement to other newer persons like "You can trust the Lord Jesus with your salvation. Believe in Him and be baptized and you will be washed from sins. Jesus changed my life and He can change yours." I really believe people need to hear that from multiple different persons. I hope I'm not asking too much. May Jesus and Mary bless you richly and comfort you for your pain and sorrows, and wipe away every bitter memory of the past. May God fill you abundantly with His Grace and pour out every blessing on your present and your future, and reward you with everlasting life in the world to come.06:19, 15 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :Let it be enough that I have confessed Him before men, privately, and publicly at least twice before groups of people. After retirement I found a venue on Wikipedia until they blocked me indefinitely. After I found Conservapedia I gratefully used this ministry as my venue for confessing the Lord of Life and Salvation and Head of His Body the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. I did this primarily by notes and articles linking irrefutable verifiable sources of accurate historical facts and documentation of history, including the sharp contrast between the interpretive doctrines of the Church which glorifies Jesus and the Bible, and the interpretive doctrines of Protestants and Fundamentalists which damn the Church as the mouthpiece of Satan by misusing the Bible. The post I made to your own talk page early this morning while IndependentSkeptic was asleep is one of my primary confessions of Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior as Head of His Body the Church. The readership of CP has been my audience. <br> Thank you for your prayers. Please remember in your prayers all of those unsung warriors for democracy and freedom who are covert operatives seeking personally in the name of Christ as highly trained military specialists to pull down every proud oppressor of human dignity and destroyer of human life, all those dedicated Special Ops who use all their skill and all of them who lost their lives in the effort to free all those enslaved by Satan and his angels (messengers, extremists, terrorists). God be with you. ''Semper Fi!'' --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 13:43, 15 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | == Thank You for Your Participation ==
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| − | Thank You so much, Michael Paul, for your wonderful contribution to Conservapedia's Project 150 Million Souls for Christ our King. There are some 1.33 billion Catholic Christians in the world according to latest Vatican Statistics, which is for the year ended 2018. That will grow to about 1.5 billion by 2030 at normal rates if nothing changes. But I'm hoping that, by much prayer from all of us, and a powerful move of the Holy Ghost, that can grow to 1.5 billion by 2025 itself; which means we will need many million converts over the next 5 years. Thanks, I'm very glad you decided to participate. Another great event to watch in the next five odd years is Catholic-Orthodox Re-Union, which could add more than 300 Million Christians to the Catholic Church. Please be assured that all your prayer intentions will be in my petitions all the days of my life; let us pray together for this also. Please see my article for Conservapedia on the future planned Third Ecumenical Nicene Council in 2025: https://www.conservapedia.com/Third_Ecumenical_Nicene_Council_2025 His Holiness Pope Francis and His Eminence Patriarch Bartholomew have invited all Christians to participate and I do really believe it will be the Council that brings about again the Full Re-Union of Christendom. God Bless you. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 05:00, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :What a thrill this news imparted to my heart. IndependentSkeptic was elated. Smiles all round! ''Outstanding! Good work!'' I may live to hear it, if not actually still be able to see it broadcast. --Michael Paul Heart--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 05:28, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
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| − | == I moved a comment you made on NishantXavier's talk page to a debate page ==
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| − | Conservative deleted your recent exchange with RobSmith, but I saved and moved one of your comments to [[Debate:Does the Catholic Church have the biblical authority of Christ Himself to preach and to teach the truth forever?| this debate page]]. I put it under the section with your name since it is a copy of your own comment, and this way a comment you made won't be erased from Conservapedia permanently. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 12:54, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :Yes, it was a very well researched comment. And thank you SHobson. I don't like particularly these erasures from user talk pages where ideas are developed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 15:12, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::Thanks for the move to the Debate page. But simply FYI, it wasn't "my own comment". That's why I didn't sign it. I plainly copied the stated expertise of an established and internationally reputable Greek linguist from the biblehub.com commentaries on Matthew 16:18 and "signed" it with a link to the actual online source. What he says about the Greek grammatical import of the passage is simply a fact plainly and clearly not open to debate. It says what it says. This expert linguist and scholar simply states what the Greek of the scripture passage states. There is no debate about its meaning among the international community of Bible linguistic experts in Greek. He says the meaning is clear. All of them agree. It points to Peter as the rock Jesus referred to. "''I say to you, you are a rock, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''" I felt that it would be useful as a fact truthfully presented as an indisputable fact. It was not intended to provoke disputatious debate on this talk page. How could anyone argue with such a fact? I'm glad it's been moved and posted onto the '''[[Debate:Does the Catholic Church have the biblical authority of Christ Himself to preach and to teach the truth forever?#Peter the Rock|Debate page]]''' where it might be most useful to seekers of truth who want to know what Jesus really meant according to the original Greek. It's even more interesting to me that not one of the extant manuscripts containing Matthew 16:18 vary in any way from each other. They all say the same exact thing. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:48, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::I bet $100 I can go to biblehub and find another expert source to refute whoever that was. This is what you call [[confirmation bias]].
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| − | :::You can weasel your way out of this mess by simply saying, ''Christ is the head of the corner'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup>
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| − | ::::None of them there refutes the '''Greek grammar''' of the passage. You can check it for yourself. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:19, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::It's a play on words. What do the commentaries have to say about
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| − | :::::*'''1 Corinthians 3:11''' - ''For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:25, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::Jesus simply said what he said. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:30, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::(ec) You even get a twofer in this argument: ''Cephas'' also means ''head''. Is Peter the chief Capstone? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:31, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::Jesus simply meant what he said according to the Greek. "''I say to you, you are a rock, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''" I can't change it. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:37, 5 August 2020 (EDT)<br>Even the KJV text of John 1:42 says, "'''And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.'''" Not even the KJV says it means "head": it says "which is by interpretation, A stone." According to the interlinear text of John 1:42 this word "Cephas" is from the Aramaic "kepa" which means "a rock". Check out [https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=g4074 Strong's number G4074] for "stone" at John 1:42. Whether big or small it still means "a rock". --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:51, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::So who is the foundation of the church, the cornerstone, the chief capstone, the Cephalic head or ''kepa'' Captain, Christ or Peter? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:01, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::I didn't say it. Jesus did. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:04, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::Who do ''you'' say the chief cornerstone of the Church is, Christ or Peter? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:05, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::::I didn't say it. Jesus did. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:04, 5 August 2020 (EDT)<br>''Kepa'' means "rock". Grecized transliteration "''Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.'''" John 1:42 <br> I didn't say it. Jesus did. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:09, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::::::No body is denying he said that. The question is, are you laying a foundation other than that which has been laid? Even Peter says the precious stone laid in Zion is Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:13, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::(ec) Let's go back to the original citation in scripture, Isaiah 28:16:
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| − | :::::{{quotebox|''Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.''}}
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| − | :::::This scripture is repeated numerous times in the Bible by Luke, Peter and Paul. Two questions: (1) Is this unfulfilled prophecy? (2) Are you attempting to lay a foundation other than that which has been laid? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:40, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::Jesus also said (Matt 21:44), ''whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder''
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| − | :::::so if you haven't been broken yet (repentance) or ground to powder, ye are still in your sin - pride, the original sin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 17:53, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::I didn't say it. Jesus did. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 17:57, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :::::::Has the rock fallen or you, or have you fallen on the Rock? It's going to happen, either in this life (repentance) or the next (judgement). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:04, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | ::::::::"''I say to you, you are a '''rock''', and on this '''rock''' I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''" I didn't say it. Jesus did. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:14, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
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