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It's kind of funny but an atheist like Sam Harris would probably consider the example of the churchians to be sort of "Useless Idiots" in that he thinks their liberal attitudes towards religious tolerance gives cover to the ultra-conservative religous.  [[User:MickA|MickA]] 12:32, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 
It's kind of funny but an atheist like Sam Harris would probably consider the example of the churchians to be sort of "Useless Idiots" in that he thinks their liberal attitudes towards religious tolerance gives cover to the ultra-conservative religous.  [[User:MickA|MickA]] 12:32, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
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Is "churchian" a sort of jargon used when it would be distasteful to call someone a "Christian"?  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 17:45, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
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: "Churchian" refers to someone who goes to church but it's questionable whether they are actually a Christian, or perhaps it's someone for whom going to church and appearing to be part of the church is more of a motivator for them than is the Bible.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:37, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
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::Standing in a garage doesn't make one a mechanic, eh Philip? <nowiki><insert jesting emoticon here></nowiki> [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</sub>]] 11:57, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
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::: Correct.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:16, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
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==Examples==
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Recently, as far as my efforts outside of Conservapedia, every time you use illegitimate means to censor valid information relating to Russia or to shield Russia from criticism, using my web marketing skills, I aided the online critics of Russia. Right now, my material is getting over 530,000 page views a month.
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So what you are doing is very counterproductive to your hyper Russophilia.
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If you continue to engage in this ill behavior, I will up my efforts so my material is getting over 1,000,000 page views a month. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:47, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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===Bill Browder===
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:Hey, I'm not [[censor]]ing valid information at all. I'm exposing the [[fraud]] of you using an educational resource to [[spam]] [[ad hominem]]s at your personal "enemies". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 15:53, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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::In addition, if you persist, I will invite [[Bill Browder]] on a popular podcast that is among the top 1% in podcast in audience size (On the podcast, I have booked Sebastion Gorka, Eric Kaufmann and a whole bunch of others). That could really hurt Putin and his oligarchs in the pocket book as Browder is pushing for sanctions on Russia. Between my SEO skills, other web marketing skills, my podcast booking skills and my outreach skills in terms of getting a hold of specific people, I can get the critics of Russia word out. There is a great book I have in my library entitled [https://www.amazon.com/Power-Get-Leverage-Anyones-Effectively/dp/0312195222 The Power to Get In: Using The Circle Of Leverage System To Get In Anyone's Door Faster, More Effectively & With Less Expense] that offers great advice on how to get ahold of specific people you want to reach. I also have experience in using a high powered online outreach tool.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:07, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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:::[[Bill Browder]]? the international [[kleptocrat]]ic [[oligarch]], [[traitor]] to [[America]] who gave up [[US]] [[citizenship]] to escape US tax laws, and fugitive from justice? Go ahead. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 16:10, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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::::If you persist, after getting Browder booked on that leading podcast, I can reach out to various Ukrainian news outlets and offer them some assistance. Fairly recently, I helped a leading website rank highly for 2 terms which get about 750,000 to 1,000,000 searches per month in the USA. I can certainly help the critics of Russia with SEO. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:19, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::Please. You and your [[neocon]] [[psychopath]] buddy [[Bill Browder]] both need to be exposed as the [[fraud]]s that you are - and dangers to the [[MAGA movement]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 16:28, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::*[https://youtu.be/mBtsNNXjBPw Helsinki Summit: President Trump Backs Vladimir Putin On Election Interference | NBC Nightly News]
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:::::*[https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/putin-singles-out-bill-browder-at-trump-s-helsinki-press-conference-1282567235639 Putin singles out Bill Browder at Trump's Helsinki press conference | MSNBC]
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:::::*[https://youtu.be/ZfyKnB2dfY8 Putin's 'No.1 enemy' Bill Browder slams Trump's Helsinki summit | ABC News (Australia)]
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:::::As to reaching out to pro-[[LGBT]] & [[transgender]] outlets in [[Ukraine]] (the "anti-" outlets have all been shut down as "[[Putin propaganda|Russian propaganda]]") this ought to be interesting. Especially when these professional [[intelligence]] operatives discover who you really are (routine part of the vetting process for sources). Can you spell [[useful idiot|U-S-E-F-U-L I-D-I-O-T?]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 16:45, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
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==MTG==
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IMO, choosing [[MTG]] is the wrong hill to die on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:59, November 19, 2025 (EST)
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:Being that she's probably going to end up with a higher paying job like [[Matt Gaetz]] or [[Steve Bannon]], should we rewrite the Intro? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 22:10, November 21, 2025 (EST)
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:This recalls [[Hermann Goering]]'s reaction to [[Albert Speer]] becoming a witness for the prosecution, his disgust at people with no honor who would do anything to "keep p*ssing in front and sh*tting in the rear a little longer". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 13:18, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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::With all due respect, I agree with Andy. And Gaetz did lose influence, regardless of salary.[[User:LaMarina|LaMarina]] ([[User talk:LaMarina|talk]]) 13:30, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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:::Big deal. It's easier to ignore the whole incident than to engage in name calling. No one's going to be persuaded one way or the other and it just falls back on yourself. There are waaay more critical issues that need focus now.
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:::She's not running for anything and he's not running for anything. She did the right thing in resigning, rather than run against a hand-picked Trump stooge. She should be honored for that. We are treating our readers as democrats and the [[liberal media]] do - that they are too [[stupid]] to remember what we said yesterday. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 13:59, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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:::: Regarding useful idiot classic MGT. If some thought she -with a terrible record [https://www.newsweek.com/jewish-groups-praise-house-vote-censure-bigoted-marjorie-taylor-greene-1567064 1], [https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/nick-fuentes 2], [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/mtg-votes-against-antisemitism-awareness-act-antisemitic-trope/73539622007/ 3], [https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/marjorie-taylor-greene-gop-antisemitic-rhetoric-conspiracy-theories/ 4])- has matured, the 60minutes interview proved otherwise.  She basically [https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2025/12/face-it-jew-hatred-is-no-longer-minus.html?m=1 implied] that the "lobby" she rails against (not the 100 billion dollar Islamic Qatar lobby, mind you), obseesed in 24/7, is advocating against bigotry, thus: MGT = BIGOTRY FIRST![[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:38, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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:::::The other reason, MGT quit congress: Despite her sanctimonious show, she didn't advocate for release of Epstein files out of "concern" for women, but for hopes that it would "reveal" her theories about links to intelligence. Now, disappointed, she got frustrated, lost.[[User:LaMarina|LaMarina]] ([[User talk:LaMarina|talk]]) 15:52, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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::::::So what? Criticism of her does nothing to improve Trump's 36% approval ratings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 16:55, December 8, 2025 (EST)
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::::::The 60 Minutes interview proves she ''is not'' a member of the [[Uniparty]]. People say "[[uniparty]]" is an antisemitic [[dogwhistle]] for [[AIPAC]] recipients. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:42, December 8, 2025 (EST)

Latest revision as of 06:42, December 13, 2025

It's kind of funny but an atheist like Sam Harris would probably consider the example of the churchians to be sort of "Useless Idiots" in that he thinks their liberal attitudes towards religious tolerance gives cover to the ultra-conservative religous. MickA 12:32, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Is "churchian" a sort of jargon used when it would be distasteful to call someone a "Christian"? Fishal 17:45, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

"Churchian" refers to someone who goes to church but it's questionable whether they are actually a Christian, or perhaps it's someone for whom going to church and appearing to be part of the church is more of a motivator for them than is the Bible. Philip J. Rayment 02:37, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Standing in a garage doesn't make one a mechanic, eh Philip? <insert jesting emoticon here> Jeffrey W. LauttamusDiscussion 11:57, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Correct. Philip J. Rayment 10:16, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Examples

Recently, as far as my efforts outside of Conservapedia, every time you use illegitimate means to censor valid information relating to Russia or to shield Russia from criticism, using my web marketing skills, I aided the online critics of Russia. Right now, my material is getting over 530,000 page views a month.

So what you are doing is very counterproductive to your hyper Russophilia.

If you continue to engage in this ill behavior, I will up my efforts so my material is getting over 1,000,000 page views a month. Conservative (talk) 15:47, July 2, 2025 (EDT)

Bill Browder

Hey, I'm not censoring valid information at all. I'm exposing the fraud of you using an educational resource to spam ad hominems at your personal "enemies". RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:53, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
In addition, if you persist, I will invite Bill Browder on a popular podcast that is among the top 1% in podcast in audience size (On the podcast, I have booked Sebastion Gorka, Eric Kaufmann and a whole bunch of others). That could really hurt Putin and his oligarchs in the pocket book as Browder is pushing for sanctions on Russia. Between my SEO skills, other web marketing skills, my podcast booking skills and my outreach skills in terms of getting a hold of specific people, I can get the critics of Russia word out. There is a great book I have in my library entitled The Power to Get In: Using The Circle Of Leverage System To Get In Anyone's Door Faster, More Effectively & With Less Expense that offers great advice on how to get ahold of specific people you want to reach. I also have experience in using a high powered online outreach tool. Conservative (talk) 16:07, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
Bill Browder? the international kleptocratic oligarch, traitor to America who gave up US citizenship to escape US tax laws, and fugitive from justice? Go ahead. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:10, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
If you persist, after getting Browder booked on that leading podcast, I can reach out to various Ukrainian news outlets and offer them some assistance. Fairly recently, I helped a leading website rank highly for 2 terms which get about 750,000 to 1,000,000 searches per month in the USA. I can certainly help the critics of Russia with SEO. Conservative (talk) 16:19, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
Please. You and your neocon psychopath buddy Bill Browder both need to be exposed as the frauds that you are - and dangers to the MAGA movement. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:28, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
As to reaching out to pro-LGBT & transgender outlets in Ukraine (the "anti-" outlets have all been shut down as "Russian propaganda") this ought to be interesting. Especially when these professional intelligence operatives discover who you really are (routine part of the vetting process for sources). Can you spell U-S-E-F-U-L I-D-I-O-T?. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:45, July 2, 2025 (EDT)

MTG

IMO, choosing MTG is the wrong hill to die on. RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:59, November 19, 2025 (EST)

Being that she's probably going to end up with a higher paying job like Matt Gaetz or Steve Bannon, should we rewrite the Intro? RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:10, November 21, 2025 (EST)
This recalls Hermann Goering's reaction to Albert Speer becoming a witness for the prosecution, his disgust at people with no honor who would do anything to "keep p*ssing in front and sh*tting in the rear a little longer". RobSRecovering Republican 13:18, December 8, 2025 (EST)
With all due respect, I agree with Andy. And Gaetz did lose influence, regardless of salary.LaMarina (talk) 13:30, December 8, 2025 (EST)
Big deal. It's easier to ignore the whole incident than to engage in name calling. No one's going to be persuaded one way or the other and it just falls back on yourself. There are waaay more critical issues that need focus now.
She's not running for anything and he's not running for anything. She did the right thing in resigning, rather than run against a hand-picked Trump stooge. She should be honored for that. We are treating our readers as democrats and the liberal media do - that they are too stupid to remember what we said yesterday. RobSRecovering Republican 13:59, December 8, 2025 (EST)
Regarding useful idiot classic MGT. If some thought she -with a terrible record 1, 2, 3, 4)- has matured, the 60minutes interview proved otherwise. She basically implied that the "lobby" she rails against (not the 100 billion dollar Islamic Qatar lobby, mind you), obseesed in 24/7, is advocating against bigotry, thus: MGT = BIGOTRY FIRST!Dianne3000 (talk) 15:38, December 8, 2025 (EST)
The other reason, MGT quit congress: Despite her sanctimonious show, she didn't advocate for release of Epstein files out of "concern" for women, but for hopes that it would "reveal" her theories about links to intelligence. Now, disappointed, she got frustrated, lost.LaMarina (talk) 15:52, December 8, 2025 (EST)
So what? Criticism of her does nothing to improve Trump's 36% approval ratings. RobSRecovering Republican 16:55, December 8, 2025 (EST)
The 60 Minutes interview proves she is not a member of the Uniparty. People say "uniparty" is an antisemitic dogwhistle for AIPAC recipients. RobSRecovering Republican 17:42, December 8, 2025 (EST)