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A great strength of the United States is its very consistent grow'' [sic] ''of its GNP over decades and its quick recovery the few times its GNP has gone down.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4eIbWdfdZk Should You Be Bullish on America?] ]]
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A great strength of the United States is its very consistent grow [sic] of its GNP over decades and its quick recovery the few times its GNP has gone down.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4eIbWdfdZk Should You Be Bullish on America?] ]]
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The only reason there is "consistent growth" is because the US has a fiat currency and is off the gold standard. [[Keynesianism]], [[deficit spending]], [[inflation]], and piling on the [[national debt]] is the cause of its alleged "great strength" to grow consistently over decades. Every time we get into trouble we just raise the national debt and print more money. And that's how you get a GNP chart that looks like this. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:14, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
The only reason there is "consistent growth" is because the US has a fiat currency and is off the gold standard. [[Keynesianism]], [[deficit spending]], [[inflation]], and piling on the [[national debt]] is the cause of its alleged "great strength" to grow consistently over decades. Every time we get into trouble we just raise the national debt and print more money. And that's how you get a GNP chart that looks like this. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:14, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

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Your not going to be able to paper over America's responsibility for Nazi war crimes in Ukraine. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 11:56, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

If America is to remain the leading power, it cannot do it by funding, arming, and training Nazis and jihadis to fight its wars. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 11:58, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
Ukraine has not played a big role in the history of the USA. America played a big role in defeating the Nazi Germany. And the War in Ukraine could very well be a blip on the radar of the history of the USA. During a period of recession/stagflation, Americans could easily tire of funding Ukrainians. And a cold winter without lots of Russian gas/oil could dampen Europeans desire to help the Ukrainians. Conservative (talk) 12:46, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
That's what you think. You're brainwashed by Western/CIA media. That's not what 88% of the planet knows and thinks. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 12:46, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
Ukraine is not an influential country - except for its wheat/agricultural production. It's GNP is not that big. And militarily it could not have fended off the Russians without the help of NATO countries. Furthermore, it is a corrupt country. Conservative (talk) 12:52, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
Nazis and jihadis have been disgraced and defeated. Since the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq under Obama, the U.S. has depended on Jihadis and Nazis to fight its wars and maintain its global power, cause the U.S. lacks the Machismo to do it itself with its woke military. Do you really think the rest of the planet does not see this RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 12:55, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
Americans tired of funding South Vietnam after the Vietnam War. It could tire of funding the Ukrainians. I am already seeing signs of "War in Ukraine fatigue" in the USA/Europe. Conservative (talk) 12:59, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
You didn't read the CIA operatives talking points I posted on Main Page talk:
"And so there will probably be changes because the Republican majority is probably still largely in support of Ukraine because a lot of them still understand that this is not regional war between Ukraine and Russia. This is more a Russian attempt to challenge the status quo and status quo of America in the world. And so there. Is that clear?"
So you're not even of that group. You think it's a regional war. Nobody in America but the most naive of either party believe that. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:02, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
You think this is some far away conflict like in Myanmar or Rwanda that doesn't affect you. You should just refrain from discussing it, cause you haven't the faintest idea of the issues involved. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:07, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

Americans are tired of endless wars. The politicians may have to bow to public pressure. Conservative (talk) 13:10, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

The bottom line is that I don't think the War in Ukraine is going to prevent the USA from being the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future due to some of its strengths and due to various weaknesses of China and Russia. Conservative (talk) 13:12, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
The U.S. is fighting to remain the leading power, and is losing badly. You should just shut up about it til you understand more. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:14, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
The United States will not be the first gigantic military power that broke itself to maintain that military power while destroying its own social, political, and economic underpinnings. That's what Rome was. That's what Germany was. That's what the USSR was, and countless other examples. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:17, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
All empires/countries eventually fade in power, fall or break up. The essay is not titled "The United States will be the leading power in the world forever" nor is it titled "The United States will be the leading power in the world until Jesus returns". Conservative (talk) 13:22, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

In population, Ukraine is about 1/10 the size of the U.S. They have lost 500 a day killed for the last two months. Imagine the U.S. losing 5,000 a day for two months, or 300.000 soldiers. And only because the U.S. government and taxpayer wanted that to happen. Do you seriously believe there are no consequences for that behavior? RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:23, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

So you think America can just ignore its murderous behavior, pick up the pieces, and move on. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:27, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

Why do we criticize the murderers, Obama and Biden, who created this mess? Are we just barking up the wrong trees over nothing? RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:29, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

RobS, the Roman Empire lasted about 1,400 years and there was a lot of bloodshed involved. The world isn't always fair Rob. The Bible says "the god of this world" is Satan. There is still a lot of evil in the world. Conservative (talk) 13:30, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

Why do we try to warn people of the danger of psychotics like Obama and Biden, then when the consequences of their actions and the people who voted for them is before our face, we ignore and deny it? Do we owe Obama & Biden voters an apology?

Obama brought the Ukrainian Nazi regime to power. Biden started the war with Russia. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:33, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

RobS, I am not an idealist nor am I a political ideologue. I am a realist. If a meteorologist predicts a hurricane, do you call him up and say "How can you have the nerve to predict a hurricane? Don't you realize all the people who are going to be hurt?"
I gave my strengths and weaknesses of the USA, China and Russia and I stand by my prediction. As Martin Luther said, "Here I stand. I can do no other." Conservative (talk) 13:42, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
[Criticism: If you're going to make the claim of being a realist, don't immediately follow it up with an imaginary metaphor. It does not make logical sense.]

This is the woke generation's war. They started it. They have to fight it. Us people of an older generation can only advise the younger generation. But they are the ones who have to fight.

My advice: Don't get Nazis and radical Islamic fundamentalists to fight your wars for you.

And if you really believe LGBT rights are worth fighting and dying for, God bless you. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 13:53, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

What war crimes were these. The one when Russian soldiers tied civilians arms behind their back and shot them by the dozen? Perhaps the one when Russian soldiers/airmen shelled shopping malls/rail stations and hospitals? can you please clarify?--176.251.208.208 14:38, August 21, 2022 (EDT)
Read the Amnesty International report(s). Don't worry, the Russian Investigatory Committee is compiling evidence for the upcoming Nazi War Crimes Tribunal. You'll have to tear yourself away from your crap-filled trough of MSM fake news and look for it cause of Western "democratic" censorship. RobSIch bin ein breakfast taco 15:49, August 21, 2022 (EDT)

I like to live in America

  • I like to be in America...
  • Skyscrapers bloom in America
  • Cadillacs zoom in America
  • Industry boom in America...
  • Life can be bright in America - West Side Story (1961).[1] Conservative (talk) 22:07, December 4, 2022 (EST)

The title actually is correct

The Book of Revelation says:

“ Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. ”

—Rev. 13:11–18

What is the second beast of Revelation? None other than the United States. It rises right as the first beast, evidently being Papal Rome, receives a deadly wound (late 1700s, when General Berthier took Pope Pius VI captive), is Lamb-like (the U.S. was founded on respecting separation of church and state unlike European theocracies), and becomes a global superpower (since it's deemed a "beast"). So the U.S. will eventually spearhead Papal Rome's agenda of enforcing an apostate Sunday law, which will be the mark of the beast, and in that sense, indeed will be a "the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future." Unfortunately, not in a positive sense though. —LT (Mark 8:36) Sunday, 21:39, January 14, 2023 (EST)

I thought the EU was the beast when it was called the Common Market and had only 10 horns. Now it's up to 29. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:48, January 14, 2023 (EST)

Council on Foreign Relations

Oh, so now you have Foreign Affairs magazine, the official publication of the Council on Foreign Relations, as a source for your assertions. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:27, July 28, 2023 (EDT)

More nonsense: "Mearsheimer and Bildt agree that our current multipolar world", followed up by "The Myth of Multipolarity".
As I've said dozens of times, you do not listen to Mearsheimer and you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth when you say "I agree with Mearsheimer." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:03, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
That didn't take long, about one minute according to the timestamp.
No, you can't wing it. When you're in a hole, stop digging. He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:49, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
In Essay writing, you need to have your thoughts organized before you begin the Essay; you can't wing it and make up your views in real time as you are writing - particularly when your sole motivation for writing is vindictiveness against a particular person. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:52, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
I pity anyone who stumbles across this Essay, it not only generates confusion about the subject matter, it detracts from the credibility the author built up elsewhere on other subject matter, creating more confusion. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:05, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
Feel free to create the essay: Essay: The United States will NOT be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future. I very much doubt that you will given your preference for contentious disputing rather than actually making well-thought-out, sound arguments.
And unfortunately, given your penchant for rudely creating templates which coverup up civil discussions/debates, your use of logical fallacies and your use of stubbornly asserting things without providing any proof, we will not be having a discussion on this matter. Conservative (talk) 10:23, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
Feel free to write the Essay: Essay: How I use Essay space to attack my imaginary enemies and bamboozle the reading public with BS out of vindictiveness. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:27, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
"Back in 1993, George Soros postulated an architecture for a new world order premised on the United States as the sole remaining superpower overseeing a network of alliances, the most important being NATO, which would gird the northern hemisphere against a Russian threat.

“The United States,” Soros wrote, “would not be called upon to act as the policeman of the world. When it acts, it would act in conjunction with others. Incidentally, the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential” of any U.S.-led alliance structure “because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

Forty years later, this very scenario is playing out on the bloody battlefields of Russia and Ukraine. ”

[2] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:23, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, read Conservapedia's article Genetic fallacy.
In addition, I look at a variety of news sources from a variety of political perspectives. I also look at non-news sources for information. Conservative (talk) 09:01, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
Nah. I'm not interested at all in learning about the debating skills you learned from David Gerard at Rationalwiki. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:14, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
And you do a poor job of pantomiming Gerard since you've adopted his debating technique. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:19, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
I learned about logic via my Logic course in college and via self-study post college. And there are a number of websites that focus on the topic of logic that offer better information about logical fallacies and related information than RationalWiki.
You should try being logical for a while and see if you like it. You would think far more clearly and make better arguments/content. Conservative (talk) 09:21, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
bla bla bla...I've seen Gerard hand your head back to you in his hands too many times, making you speechless. It doesn't work with me. I use the nobsian method. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:23, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Deny that the USA has a much bigger GNP than Russia and lose all credibility! Conservative (talk) 09:04, August 20, 2023 (EDT)

This still is a bunch of racist garbage

Even with the tweeks, this essay still is a bunch of racist garbage. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:24, August 10, 2023 (EDT)

Bad sources

You're still using bad sources. The Moscow Times, published in Brussels, Belgium, is a CIA outfit.

Try making CP an educational source, not a globalist mouthpiece. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:40, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

What a joke

Chart of the growth of U.S. GNP from January 1947 to January 2023.

A great strength of the United States is its very consistent grow [sic] of its GNP over decades and its quick recovery the few times its GNP has gone down.Should You Be Bullish on America?
"A great strength of the United States is its very consistent grow [sic] of its GNP over decades and its quick recovery the few times its GNP has gone down."


The only reason there is "consistent growth" is because the US has a fiat currency and is off the gold standard. Keynesianism, deficit spending, inflation, and piling on the national debt is the cause of its alleged "great strength" to grow consistently over decades. Every time we get into trouble we just raise the national debt and print more money. And that's how you get a GNP chart that looks like this. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:14, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

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