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[[File:Hitler.jpg|thumb|206px|right|The [[Evolution|evolutionist]] and [[Richard Dawkins and agnosticism|agnostic]] [[Richard Dawkins]] said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]] wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."<ref name=Hitler>http://byfaithonline.com/page/in-the-world/richard-dawkins-the-atheist-evangelist</ref>]]
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[[File:Hitler.jpg|thumb|206px|right|The [[evolution]]ist and [[Richard Dawkins and agnosticism|agnostic]] [[Richard Dawkins]] said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]] wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."<ref name=Hitler>http://byfaithonline.com/page/in-the-world/richard-dawkins-the-atheist-evangelist</ref>]]
 
The [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] [[William Lane Craig]] declared:
 
The [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] [[William Lane Craig]] declared:
 
{{cquote|...to say that the [[Holocaust]] was objectively [[evil]] is to say that it was evil, even though the [[Nazi]]s who carried it out thought that it was good, and it would still have been evil even if the Nazis had won World War II and succeeded in brainwashing or exterminating everyone who disagreed with them, so that everybody thought the Holocaust was good.”<ref>[http://www.strangenotions.com/does-objective-morality-depend-upon-god/ Does objective morality depend upon God?]</ref>}}
 
{{cquote|...to say that the [[Holocaust]] was objectively [[evil]] is to say that it was evil, even though the [[Nazi]]s who carried it out thought that it was good, and it would still have been evil even if the Nazis had won World War II and succeeded in brainwashing or exterminating everyone who disagreed with them, so that everybody thought the Holocaust was good.”<ref>[http://www.strangenotions.com/does-objective-morality-depend-upon-god/ Does objective morality depend upon God?]</ref>}}
  
On the other hand, the [[Evolution|evolutionist]] and [[Richard Dawkins and agnosticism|agnostic]] [[Richard Dawkins]] said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]] wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."<ref name=Hitler />
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On the other hand, the [[evolution]]ist and [[Richard Dawkins and agnosticism|agnostic]] [[Richard Dawkins]] said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]] wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."<ref name=Hitler />
  
 
Larry Taunton, the interviewer wrote, regarding Dawkins' Hitler comment:
 
Larry Taunton, the interviewer wrote, regarding Dawkins' Hitler comment:
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But Dawkins would have none of it. [[Christianity]], in his view, had contributed nothing worthwhile to Western civilization, morally or otherwise. Moral advances—and, curiously, he did consider them advances—were matters for further scientific inquiry.<ref name=Hitler />}}
 
But Dawkins would have none of it. [[Christianity]], in his view, had contributed nothing worthwhile to Western civilization, morally or otherwise. Moral advances—and, curiously, he did consider them advances—were matters for further scientific inquiry.<ref name=Hitler />}}
  
See also: [[Richard Dawkins' commentary on Adolf Hitler]]
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{{See also|Richard Dawkins' commentary on Adolf Hitler}}
  
 
Dawkins is a [[Richard Dawkins and Islamophobia accusations|vocal opponent of Islam]].  Despite his opposition to religion/[[Christianity]], Dawkins indicated: "Christianity may actually be our best defence against aberrant forms of religion that threaten the world".<ref>[http://www.christiantoday.com/article/richard.dawkins.says.christianity.is.worlds.best.defence.against.radical.islam/76416.htm Richard Dawkins says Christianity is world's best defence against radical Islam], Christianity Today,  January 2016</ref>  
 
Dawkins is a [[Richard Dawkins and Islamophobia accusations|vocal opponent of Islam]].  Despite his opposition to religion/[[Christianity]], Dawkins indicated: "Christianity may actually be our best defence against aberrant forms of religion that threaten the world".<ref>[http://www.christiantoday.com/article/richard.dawkins.says.christianity.is.worlds.best.defence.against.radical.islam/76416.htm Richard Dawkins says Christianity is world's best defence against radical Islam], Christianity Today,  January 2016</ref>  
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Not possessing a [[Religion|religious]] basis for [[morality]], which can provide a basis for objective morality, [[Atheism|atheists]] are fundamentally [[Moral_relativism|incapable]] of having a coherent system of morality.<ref>
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Not possessing a [[Religion|religious]] basis for [[morality]], which can provide a basis for objective morality, [[Atheism|atheists]] are fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of having a coherent system of morality.<ref>
 
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by
 
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by
 
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The evolutionist and agnostic Richard Dawkins said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying Hitler wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."[1]

The Christian apologist William Lane Craig declared:

...to say that the Holocaust was objectively evil is to say that it was evil, even though the Nazis who carried it out thought that it was good, and it would still have been evil even if the Nazis had won World War II and succeeded in brainwashing or exterminating everyone who disagreed with them, so that everybody thought the Holocaust was good.”[2]

On the other hand, the evolutionist and agnostic Richard Dawkins said in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying Hitler wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."[1]

Larry Taunton, the interviewer wrote, regarding Dawkins' Hitler comment:

I was stupefied. He had readily conceded that his own philosophical position did not offer a rational basis for moral judgments. His intellectual honesty was refreshing, if somewhat disturbing on this point.

Dawkins proceeded to cite the abolition of slavery and the civil rights movement as examples of Western moral advancements, but would not credit Christianity in the slightest.

“Now you have to remember where I am from,” I objected. “Birmingham, Alabama—the home of the civil rights movement. Many there would argue that the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., was motivated by his Christian convictions. And what of William Wilberforce?”

But Dawkins would have none of it. Christianity, in his view, had contributed nothing worthwhile to Western civilization, morally or otherwise. Moral advances—and, curiously, he did consider them advances—were matters for further scientific inquiry.[1]

See also: Richard Dawkins' commentary on Adolf Hitler

Dawkins is a vocal opponent of Islam. Despite his opposition to religion/Christianity, Dawkins indicated: "Christianity may actually be our best defence against aberrant forms of religion that threaten the world".[3]

According to Apologetics.net:

Let's start with what objective means given the word’s versatility. In philosophy, objective refers to existence apart from perception. An object independent of perception does not change with our feelings, interpretations, or prejudices. Applied to moral values; if they are objective, then they are discovered, not invented. Contrast this with subjective moral values which change from person to person, culture to culture, etc. If morality is objective, it is reasonable to ask: What is the mind-independent basis for objective morality and is this basis sufficiently binding? In other words, it is not enough to show some external ground for morality and then subjectively link that grounding with obligation. Obligation to a particular ethical system must transcend personal preference and also have some significant grounding in the object of perception.

On Christianity moral values have their objective and universal basis in the immutable nature of God. He neither arbitrarily created the moral law, nor is there an external moral domain in which God is subject. Moral values are, because of who God is.[4]

Objective morality and the existence of God

See also: Religion and morality and Atheism and the problem of evil and Atheism and morality

The perverse and cruel atheist Marquis de Sade in prison, 18th century line engraving.

Christian apologists commonly argue that objective morality exists and that objective morality is dependent on the existence of God.[5]

Not possessing a religious basis for morality, which can provide a basis for objective morality, atheists are fundamentally incapable of having a coherent system of morality.[6] See also: Atheism and morality

For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: Atheism and mass murder). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.[7]

The Barna Group found that atheists and agnostics in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality.[8] Given the many diseases associated with homosexuality, the biblical prohibition against homosexuality is quite arguably one of the many examples where the Bible exhibited knowledge that was ahead of its time. See also: Atheism and sexual immorality

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