Conservapedia:User complaints/Archive/Archive3
User:Conservative
- Continued misuse of the Deletion Log to coverup spurious entries and harassment of editors. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:25, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
Solution to the RobSmith–Conservative feud
Provisionally desysop both of them and reinstate Karajou. Very simple. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:03, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- I dunno; you might have a better chance of survival joining the Azov Battalion International Legion. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:30, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- Nice try, but I have zero intentions of joining a far-left socialist paramilitary organization. —
LTRev. 22:13 Monday, 21:32, July 9, 2023 (EDT)- I'm just sayin', your chances of getting banhammered by Russian artillery are probably less than getting it from Karajou. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:41, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- Reflecting upon what I did to Karajou two years ago, perhaps I deserve to get immediately banhammered by him if he returns. If his path to Heaven was destroyed because of an unforgiving anger harbored against me due to my iniquities, it was my sin. —
LTRev. 22:13 Monday, 21:46, July 9, 2023 (EDT)- Karajou may have tended to jump to conclusions a bit, but by all indications I saw, he seemed to be working from the best of intentions. He didn't take any guff from anyone, regardless of who they were. Some people really don't like individuals like that. Personally, I didn't always agree with him 100% on everything, but I respected him.
- Anyway, I can't see either Conservative or Rob getting demoted. But maybe like Karajou, Conservative will get bullied out too. Then Rob is the last one standing. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:03, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- He destroyed our user base, not intentionally. He just should have been counselled and reigned in, but CP is not structured to handle those problems. Note how daily vandal attacks have stopped since he left. He provoked the vandal attacks, i.e. was the cause. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:09, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- He even asked once in the Slack group, "Why do they do it?", why was RW so obsessed with vandalizing CP?; but didn't hang around long enough to discuss it, rather turned on us and claimed we were all a bunch of Ratvandals. An Admin needs to know how to listen. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:15, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- Reflecting upon what I did to Karajou two years ago, perhaps I deserve to get immediately banhammered by him if he returns. If his path to Heaven was destroyed because of an unforgiving anger harbored against me due to my iniquities, it was my sin. —
- I'm just sayin', your chances of getting banhammered by Russian artillery are probably less than getting it from Karajou. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:41, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- Nice try, but I have zero intentions of joining a far-left socialist paramilitary organization. —
User:DavidB4, Karajou didn't get bullied out. Karajou and RobSmith were involved in bitter feuding where Karjou was blocking RobSmith who didn't have admin powers at the time. And Karajou was angry that I was attempting to get User: RobSmith's adminship back and that I allowed User: RobSmith to use one of my dormant admin accounts. I did this because RobSmith was creating content at the time and it seemed silly to lose a content creator over a petty dispute between editors. Karajou's anger boiled over towards me and he started to sending nasty emails regarding me in a group email which I let roll off me like water off a duck's back (I have work experience where I been exposed to some of the worst people in society so I am very unflappable, but I haven't always been this way. I also have work experience where assertiveness is very helpful.). Given the nature of his emails that were sent regarding me and my unflappable nature, it actually worked against him as far as getting his way with Andy relating to RobSmith. I came across as the voice of reason. I am guessing that when Karajou didn't get his way concerning User: RobSmith, he decided to quit. So Karajou wasn't bullied out. Ultimately, the whole episode was a tempest in a teapot. Karajou at the time wasn't creating much content and he was still somewhat overzealous in terms of blocking people so it had a marginal effect on Conservapedia. Ultimately on the internet, content is king and links are queen and Karajou wasn't creating much of either directly or indirectly (Excellent content attracts links). So I agree with Andy that petty disputes are pointless and content creation should take precedence.
Although bullying may work for a while, bullying often backfires in life because nobody likes a bully. Smooth interpersonal relations with others, diplomacy, graciousness, and being magnanimousness are much more powerful in life which is one of the reasons why the noble religion of Christianity has been so influential in the world. Two of the most famous bullies in the 20th century were Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini who got their way for a while, but they died prematurely.
Speaking of content creation, I hope Andy fixes the log-on problem so Conservapedia could have a fresh batch of new editors. Conservative (talk) 11:33, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
- Now that he's no longer a registered user, we can be as incivil as we want; I liked the guy, but he was an idiot. He refused to listen - even in private Admin email groups. If I were to propose, "Hey, let's use Page Protect instead of Block" to fight vandalism, he'd scream, "You must be one of them!" He got his jollies off of hitting the Block button. It gave him an endorphin rush to zapp his enemies. He blocked accounts that never edited, simply because the account was created within minutes or hours after one of his daily games of Space Invaders with Rattrolls. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:49, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
- On the internet and social media, there are certain 'trigger words' that can set certain people off. One such word was 'Rationalwiki' and its derivatives, 'RW', 'Ratvandal', 'Ratroll', 'Rats', etc. On the private email list, it became impossible to have a discussion about dealing with the problem of vandalism, cause with any reference to the 'R' word, the anger just bled through the electronic transmission lines, and all reason was gone for days. Other than that, he was a normal person to deal with. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:16, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
- He never did figure out that Ratvandals, particularly Trent with a PhD in psychology, had classically conditioned him like Pavlov's dogs or a rat in a Skinner box with the Block button. They were in complete control of his mind and emotions. If he ever came back, he would need de-programming first before being trusted with admin tools. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:23, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
- I wonder what his position is on the Ukraine war, if he's 'Sieg Heiling' to the neocons or if he's finally ready to take on the military industrial complex warmongers. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:34, July 10, 2023 (EDT)