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No Ivermectin does not help you battling COVID-19

Misleading clinical evidence and systematic reviews on ivermectin for COVID-19 by the BMJ Astaka (talk) 23:02, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

Joe Rogan just proved you wrong in that department - Media Melts Down After Joe Rogan Says He Recovered From Covid in 3 Days After Taking Ivermectin, Z-Pak Northwest (talk) 23:07, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
Science is not done by anecdotal evidence. It is done by peer-reviewed clinical trials. Astaka (talk) 23:09, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
In fact anecdotal evidence is the worst type of evidence period. Astaka (talk) 23:10, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
So tell me, then. Is it confirmed that dogs mating in a dog park proves rape culture? By your logic, because it was a peer-reviewed paper, it's "confirmed science". Besides, most of those "peer reviews" you cited are closer to sham peer reviews since Fauci, one of the people pushing for clinical trials, was well known for bullying people to get his way. Just ask that female virologist, for example. Pokeria1 (talk) 23:43, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
Denying that Ivermectin actually works in dealing with the CCP flu because of political and ideological bias (and because you don't like that it's more effective in doing so than the CCP flu "vaccines" whose developers and financiers, as well as the liberal media and Big Tech, have been pushing ever has or will) does not make any of your claims true. Northwest (talk) 23:21, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
The beautiful thing about Science is that when you have evidence that shows that you are wrong it is not considered bad to change your mind. Astaka (talk) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
Also drop the rhetoric, it is called COVID-19 and the SARS‑CoV‑2 virus. I call it by its proper scientific name not its nickname given by the outrage media. Astaka (talk) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
Science is also manipulated by the Left for political and ideological reasons, to fit their preconceived narratives and to give them excuses to say and do whatever they please. If you refuse to accept that for those same reasons, that's your issue alone, no one else's. Also, calling conservative media the "outrage media" over calling the CCP flu by its source of origin isn't helping your argument either, whereas the liberal media's reaction to Joe Rogan recovering from the CCP flu after taking Ivermectin and other medications has demonstrated that the liberal media is itself the outrage media. Northwest (talk) 23:42, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
All media loves using outrage as form of getting clicks and views. They need to make money after all. If you guys want to make a encyclopaedia based on facts you need to call things by its proper name given by specialist not by media personalities trying to drive views by exemplifying xenophobia. Astaka (talk) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
And generally when you are proven wrong you admit you are wrong and move on. Stating "the reason science disagree with me because there is a conspiracy!" is just plain denial plain and simple. Astaka (talk) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
Except when it's a liberal, who can never admit to being wrong when they are (and you've done nothing but push liberal POVs and engaged in denial of facts - exemplified by your undoings of three edits I made at the CCP virus in Canada article that got you blocked for a day yesterday - since you first came here, so all you've done is prove my point). Northwest (talk) 23:59, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

Have you even bothered to read the paper then just spew rhetoric? Astaka (talk) 00:11, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Which is exactly what you're doing here yourself, as well as just arguing for the sake of arguing. Also, the authors behind the source you provided at the top have incentive (both political and financial) to lie about Ivermectin in order to push the mRNA gene therapy drugs being falsely claimed as "vaccines", so no dice. Northwest (talk) 00:17, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Denial Astaka (talk) 00:30, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

By you, via your denial of the discrediting of your sources and your arguments out of convenience. Northwest (talk) 00:32, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Read this: It's very dangerous to be providing such misleading medical information online. Someone who does not know the conspiratorial/pseudoscientific nature of this site may actually take what CP says seriously and end up harming themself. This article should be changed ASAP to say that ivermectin is ineffective and harmful when used on COVID-19. ChenXiansheng (talk) 09:40, September 8, 2021 (EDT)

You have got to be kidding me! You post a link to the cbc with these words, "It's very dangerous to be providing such misleading medical information online." What planet do you hail from? RobSFree Kyle! 11:44, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
But there's nothing wrong with that article, and you can fact check it with other sources if you like. CBC is usually pretty fair and reliable in their reporting, as opposed to some more extreme right-wing sources which promote disproven treatments for COVID. ChenXiansheng (talk) 12:10, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
Herein lies the quandary: I want to check for facts. My time is limited. CBC would be among the last, if ever, place I would visit for factual information. That is not my fault, paranoia, or conspiracy theory - that wholey was a decision made by the CBC and its Canadian taxpayer funders to destroy its own reputation as a purveyor of reliable information. RobSFree Kyle! 13:14, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
For example, here are the Google search results for "cbc Trump-Russia". Personally, I'm not even aware of Canadian scandals involving the CBC other than what Ezra Levant alleges, but just a cursory review of the above search results shows every single result is a bald-face lie, some predating the 2016 election, and others as late as 2019 and beyond. Neither have we even investigated the CBC mouthing CCP propaganda that the coronavirus originated with people eating bats. Do we have a single retraction on any of this? Does the CBC even care about the damage it has done sowing misinformation? RobSFree Kyle! 13:23, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
Trudeau BRAGS About Buying Off Canadian Media. RobSFree Kyle! 21:39, September 9, 2021 (EDT)

Its kind of ironic that anti-Communist are pushing against big business...

Seems a bit weird, don't you think... Astaka (talk) 23:33, September 6, 2021 (EDT)

When some in big business act as agents for the State (e.g. Big Pharma) when the State has gone full-blown Communist, that's to be expected. Northwest (talk) 02:49, September 7, 2021 (EDT)
Not really, and not really at all. When you outlaw private property, and the government owns everything, that in itself is big business. The USSR & CCP were nothing but big business. They certainly were not administrators of justice, which is the primary function of government. RobSFree Kyle! 14:06, September 8, 2021 (EDT)