Talk:NATO war in Ukraine

Turkey cannot be considered a belligerent power yet:

• Turkey host peace talks and acts as mediator;
• Turkey has not imposed sanctions and welcomes Russian investors and tourists;
• Turkey has closed the Dardanelles to NATO warships;
• Grey Wolves is not a government entity;
• Turkish cooperation with Russia in Syria.

On the other side of the leger you have:

• Sale of Baktayar drones to Ukraine.

Now, if you can prove Turkey allowed NATO forces through the Dardanelles to sink the Moskva, you possible have a case, however that still appears highly unlikely.

Please, think twice before inserting ANY information attributed to Ukrainian sources, like Klitschko (remember what Nuland said about Klitschko?) RobS^Z 01:50, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Turkey would fall under NATO, anyway, which is already listed, showing how susceptible you are to Ukie propaganda, brainwashing, and Western psyops. RobS^Z 02:12, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

DPR snipers

DPR snipers are using the same 1943 & 1944 Mosin sniper rifles their grandfathers used to kill Nazi to kill Nazis today. [1] RobS^Z 16:49, June 2, 2022 (EDT)

reversion was an accident

My reversion was an accident due to a touch-screen mishap. I didn't even know it happened until now. Sorry! I will try to restore but that is not easy now.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:15, August 8, 2022 (EDT)

No problem. I'll fix it. I was wondering what happened, like maybe you got a nasty phone call complaining about "NATO aggression" or something. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 02:33, August 8, 2022 (EDT)

I have deliberately tried to avoid using links to The Saker blog & Southfront to avoid Google blacklisting, cause they are largely regarded as GRU fronts (which they probably are). RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 02:35, August 8, 2022 (EDT)

What a bunch of idiots

Ukraine right now has superior artillery weapons, albeit far fewer in number than necessary. The problem is, nobody knows how to use them. It can take 18 months of training on some systems, and their best soldiers now are long dead.

Lay this devastating debacle on the doorstep of the NATO idiots, the Zelensky regime idiots, the EU idiots who bankrupted themselves and destroyed their own economies to pay for it, and the idiots in the Biden White House and NSC staff.

If I were a Ukrainian "nationalist", I'd be blaming the West right now BIG TIME. If I were an American (which I am) I'd get the hell out before this contagion of death and destruction in Ukraine, and starvation in the EU, spreads to the U.S. The time is short. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 05:44, August 29, 2022 (EDT)

The article tone should be improved

While it's apparent that Ukrainian nationalists have committed numerous atrocities, the Kremlin forces aren't innocent either since they also bombed buildings and killed innocent people. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 16:29, November 21, 2022 (EST)

We don't know that for sure. All we have is discredited Ukrainian and Western media sources spewing that biased hate and garbage. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:00, November 22, 2022 (EST)

Western media has two serious problems (1) they knowingly discredited themselves by knowingly reporting biased and false information; (2) they knowingly discredited themselves by censoring Russian sources. That is their problem they created for themselves. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:05, November 22, 2022 (EST)

Findings

So, Obama ordered up the Russiagate hoax https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/fresh-evidence-obama-ordered-up-the-phony-russiagate-scandal/

To cover his butt, he authorized covert sabotage activities inside Russia (WaPo).

The sabotage activities are now provocative Acts of War that invite a retaliatory strike against the United States. [2][3][4]

Nixon could not have thought up something so diabolical. This is the "change you can believe in", thermonuclear war based on lies to get back at Trump for the Birther movement. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:20, December 27, 2022 (EST)

Zaporozhe

Interesting documentary on Zaporozhe. Since the 2014 coup, Western oligarchs have driven down the price of wheat, trying to run Zaporozhe farmers out of business so Western agricultural conglomerates can buy them up cheap. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

This would be called the "weaponization of food" - "he who controls the food supply controls the world". IOWs, Western oligarchs and agricultural conglomerates bought wheat heavily after the Maidan coup to suppress the price, impoverish Ukrainian farmers, and drive them out of business. Putin disrupted their plans (he saw what they did in Russia under Yeltsin).

Comment: So obviously Western oligarchs and multinational agricultural conglomerates kicked back millions into foundations, think tanks, educational institutions, media, and political coffers to demonize Putin (you know, all the globalist garbage User:Cons persistently cites) for all money he cost them and thwarting their longterm goals. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:01, March 3, 2023 (EST)

This plan of lowering prices to drive smaller competitors out of business and buy them up was perfected by John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil and why anti-trust laws were passed in the United States. Only Russia, and now Ukraine, didn't have any such laws to protect small enterprises from unfair trade practices prior to Putin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:07, March 3, 2023 (EST)

Putin is the champion of mom n pop Main Street businesses and consumers who enjoy the benefits of price competition in Russia, and now Ukraine, to protect them from monopoly control of large corporations. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:12, March 3, 2023 (EST)

Poor, misunderstood St. Putin - the divorced, ex-KGB man whose drunk countrymen don't have a replacement level of children. And merely 1% of his countrymen go to church. If only they had a leader who regularly went to church to serve as a role model! Conservative (talk) 23:03, March 3, 2023 (EST)

Putin is an ex-KGB officer. It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe the numerous credible reports of him killing his political opponents or the numerous credible reports of Russia setting up torture places in Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 09:13, March 4, 2023 (EST)

Breaking: Zaporozhe Territorial Defense mutnies against Zelensky regime.

Breaking: The 'SOB' Biden wanted fired who colluded with Guliani during impeachment 2.0 (Luteshenko) isn't a Russian agent afterall, and is fighting with the AFU in Bakhmut. [5]