Difference between revisions of "Talk:Statism"
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This is an example of [[Statism]] in [[Conservapedia]]: | This is an example of [[Statism]] in [[Conservapedia]]: | ||
| − | "The '''guns and butter economic concept''' describes the government allocation to defense spending versus social programs."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/guns-butter.asp What Does "Guns and Butter" Mean in Government Spending?], Investopedia</ref>[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Guns_or_butter&action=edit&oldid=2087044] The statist article claimed: "As an economy produces more guns ([[military]] spending) it must '''reduce its production of butter''' (food), and vice versa."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gunsandbutter.asp Guns-and-Butter Curve: Definition and How It Works], Investopedia</ref> This is totally [[false]]. The [[Guns or butter]] debate is over transferring the | + | "The '''guns and butter economic concept''' describes the government allocation to defense spending versus social programs."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/guns-butter.asp What Does "Guns and Butter" Mean in Government Spending?], Investopedia</ref>[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Guns_or_butter&action=edit&oldid=2087044] The statist article claimed: "As an economy produces more guns ([[military]] spending) it must '''reduce its production of butter''' (food), and vice versa."<ref>[https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gunsandbutter.asp Guns-and-Butter Curve: Definition and How It Works], Investopedia</ref> This is totally [[false]]. The [[Guns or butter]] debate is over transferring the consumption of butter away from [[consumers]] in order to produce [[munitions]], '''NOT reducing its production.''' The sources used are [[Economic planning|command and control]], [[statist]] arguments. |
See [[Talk:Guns or butter]]. | See [[Talk:Guns or butter]]. | ||
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The '''guns OR butter''' debate is between [[government]] [[military]] spending vs [[private sector]] [[consumer]] choices. Unlike the [[Soviet Union]], the [[United States Government]] DOES NOT produce [[butter]]. | The '''guns OR butter''' debate is between [[government]] [[military]] spending vs [[private sector]] [[consumer]] choices. Unlike the [[Soviet Union]], the [[United States Government]] DOES NOT produce [[butter]]. | ||
| − | "Deriving their just power by the consent of the governed" - people must [[democratic]]ally agree to give up their right to purchase [[butter]] to fight a [[war]], not have it imposed upon them top-down, as [[User:Conservative]]'s [[statist]] [[economic]] [[theory]] implies. | + | "Deriving their just power by the consent of the governed" - people must [[democratic]]ally agree to give up their right to purchase [[butter]] in order to fight a [[war]], not have it imposed upon them top-down, as [[User:Conservative]]'s [[statist]] [[economic]] [[theory]] implies. |
See also [[O'Sullivan's First Law]]. | See also [[O'Sullivan's First Law]]. | ||
Revision as of 20:18, June 22, 2026
Statism is the belief that the civil government (or man via civil government) is the ultimate authority in the earth and as such is the source of law, morality, and righteousness (that which is right and wrong).[1]
This is an example of Statism in Conservapedia:
"The guns and butter economic concept describes the government allocation to defense spending versus social programs."[2][1] The statist article claimed: "As an economy produces more guns (military spending) it must reduce its production of butter (food), and vice versa."[3] This is totally false. The Guns or butter debate is over transferring the consumption of butter away from consumers in order to produce munitions, NOT reducing its production. The sources used are command and control, statist arguments.
See Talk:Guns or butter.
The guns OR butter debate is between government military spending vs private sector consumer choices. Unlike the Soviet Union, the United States Government DOES NOT produce butter.
"Deriving their just power by the consent of the governed" - people must democratically agree to give up their right to purchase butter in order to fight a war, not have it imposed upon them top-down, as User:Conservative's statist economic theory implies.
See also O'Sullivan's First Law.
Conservapedia needs better enforcement against spamming and trolling, even when it is done by Senior Admin. RobSWWJD? Would he claim 2 gay bathhouses in Russia compared to 300 in America justifies nuclear war? 15:57, June 22, 2026 (EDT)
- ↑ McDowell, S. Rendering to Caesar the Things that are God's in Statism: the Golden Calf of the Modern World; Providence Foundation Biblical Worldview University; Charlottesville. p. 15, (2009)
- ↑ What Does "Guns and Butter" Mean in Government Spending?, Investopedia
- ↑ Guns-and-Butter Curve: Definition and How It Works, Investopedia