Talk:Essay: Are ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity conservative values? Are maliciousness and vindictiveness conservative values?

If anyone disagrees with this, feel free to write Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in politics that will affect politics for 30 years. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 16:36, December 24, 2023 (EST)

Some people do not believe that Derek Chauvin received a fair trial. I count myself among that number.

The testimony of two witnesses establishes a fact - Deut. 19:15.

To demonstrate the sheer futility of trying to have a conversation with some people whose brains are embalmed with ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity, I will try to thumbnail a telephone conversation I had with someone who called me up to tell me what a bad guy Derek Chauvin was during Chauvin's trial.

The caller alleged, which I have no reason to doubt, that a few years back he was in Minneapolis on business and evidently was staying in or near Derek Chauvin's beat. Chauvin was alleged to have accosted him once or twice, as I recall, which I believe is entirely plausible. The caller claimed, the first time was for J-walking, and the second time was at a convenience store after dark about 10 o'clock at night in a high crime area. These he alleged were proof positive that Chauvin was a bad guy with no respect for other people's rights.

Why the caller called me with this information, I have no idea; possibly cause I may have voiced criticism of the trial in CP. But evidently, I was suppose to agree with him, based upon his word, that Chauvin was not only just a bad guy, but a bad guy toward white people, as well.

I attempted to point out, that in police work, what is considered good police work in an assigned area is for the cop to familiarize himself with the people living in the area he is assigned to, and the people he is suppose to protect - routine police work, rather than sitting on their butt and paying no attention to what is happening on their beat; and when a strange face shows up in a high crime, drug infested area (particularly from out-of-state, as allegedly, as I recall, the "victim" in this case was carded and ID'd with an out-of-state driver license when busted earlier for J-walking) after dark at a known drug trafficking location. "NO! NO! NO!", he began screaming into the phone, he didn't want to hear anymore of it. His lawbreaking for J-walking was entirely justified, and Chauvin had violated his rights by busting him, ID'ing him, and not writing him a ticket for the violation. Chauvin was a bad guy, even to white people, and that was that. I was suppose to agree with him, and that was that.

Needless to say, even though he never allowed me to finish my spiel about what is considered "good police work" because of his screaming at me on the phone, I began to doubt if live phone contact was any more rational than interacting with him on the internet. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:04, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Disclosure: I have a brother who lives three blocks from where the George Floyd incident took place, and I myself in the 1980s lived briefly behind the Cub Food Store that was burnt down in the riots. The police precinct station that was burnt down was in that immediate vicinity as well, but I think it must've been built many years after I left. So I am well enough familiar with the area of Chauvin's beat, and where the caller was accosted by Chauvin twice.RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:30, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

I was never accosted by the now ex-policeman Derek Chauvin and the accuracy of the other material above was also poor (Likely intentionally poor in some instances or in some cases the result of poor listening skills). I did go to convenience store after midnight (Sometimes I returned from work late due to interstate travel and perhaps this was one of those times). Chauvin said to me inside the convenience store, "Kind of late to be out isn't?". I politely and assertively told him, "No.". By the way, last time I checked, convenience stores are lawful businesses that often operate past midnight! Chauvin was very fortunate that I sometimes worked late as policemen are paid out of taxes!

Also, at the time I was questioned by Derek Chauvin, I was a top 10% performer for an independent contractor position I did for a national company. That is why the president of the company asked me to stop by his office when I was working in his state as I made him a lot of money. Sometimes being a top performer requires one to work late. Apparently, Chauvin is not aware of this, despite working as a policeman where "collars" are often done past midnight! Well, Chauvin has plenty of time now to reflect on the fact that the United States is not a police state because Chauvin is in prison! On the other hand, I am as free as a bird!

Lastly, upon further reflection, when Chauvin asked me, "Kind of late to be out?", I shouldn't have given him a polite, brief, and assertive "no". God bless America. God bless the Bill of Rights. And thank God for the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I should have decided to ignore him and remain silent. Don't talk to the police!, Regent University School of Law. Conservative (talk) 14:05, January 26, 2025 (EST)

By the way, I have a person in my family who was a highly ranked police police offer. He told me that Derek Chauvin could have done a much better job as far as his arrest of George Floyd as far as his use of force. And a jury of his peers convicted Derek Chauvin. While I believe the trial was not perfect, I believe my relative was correct and he should know as he supervised many police officers and had a lot of collars in a high crime area of the city he was a policeman in. Conservative (talk) 14:27, January 26, 2025 (EST)

If you weren't hanging out in a high crime area past midnite in Minneapolis, after the cop knew you weren't a resident of the neighborhood it was his duty to protect, you wouldn't have had a run in with him.

Bottomline (like so many other things) you don't know what good police work is. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:35, January 26, 2025 (EST)

Was I hanging out in a high crime area or was a simply making a quick visit to a convenience store after my workday? And I didn't have a "run in" with him at the time. I simply replied "No" to him and I didn't even have to do that according to 5th Ammendment of the U.S. Constitution. Conservative (talk) 14:41, January 26, 2025 (EST)

According to you, you had 2 encounters with him on his beat, defending the people he was sworn to protect. You were an out-of-towner. That's called proactive police work when he spotted you violating the law. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:45, January 26, 2025 (EST)

Sinophobia?

As for Conservative's insertions on China's residents and the consumption of unclean meats, I would definitely contend that he is in no way a bigoted Sinophobe, rather hasty in how he phrases sentences. I believe his intended criticism was the atheistic Chinese culture, not collectively attacking Chinese people simply because a fraction of them in some regions, as my mother told me years ago, may engage in bizarre practices of eating "exotic delicacies" or whatever. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 10:56, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

What about sewage eating? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:01, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Um, yeah, that's a bit of a harsh claim to make, and hopefully he has sufficient evidence to back up his assertions. Who knows? Maybe he has enough sources to create a whole "Atheism and sewage eating" article. My point here is more that I can see how Conservative is trying to vociferate ideologies but ends up attacking people too much. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 11:03, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

PubMed Central journal article: "Gutter oil is a type of cooking oil recycled from the gutter, household drains and grease traps. It may also contain other wastes including reused cooking oil from restaurant fryers and kitchens, and animal fat (e.g. leftover animal parts, chicken fat, pig skins, internal organs, and expired meat, which are mainly from slaughterhouses)".[1] "The short documentary details the illegal production and sale of so-called "gutter oil," a cooking oil made from restaurant sewer refuse and rotten animal fat that is refined and then sold, mostly to small restaurants and street food vendors." - Bloomberg News, October 29, 2013.[2] "Chinese call it "gutter oil" — a foul slop fished up from sewage drains or collected at restaurant back doors — and it's being used widely in the country's eateries." - Fox News, 2010.[3] "Recycled food oil" known in China as “gutter oil” because it is scooped up from sewage drains or collected at restaurant back doors is apparently being used widely in the country’s eateries." - Foodservice Equipment Reports, January 3, 2011.[4] "A new cooking-oil scandal has erupted in China, about a decade after the country's infamous crackdown on restaurants reusing gutter oil and sewage grease."- Business Insider, 2024.[5] "Gutter oil typically comes from a variety of food waste sources, including sewer drains, grease traps, discarded animal parts and restaurant oil dumps. Once extracted, the foul-smelling slop is mixed, boiled at high temperature and sold to food vendors throughout China at significantly discounted rates." - Southern Green Industries, 2022[6]

Chinese gutter oil was tainted with sewage. At the same time, I could have been more precise via a fuller explanation giving all the details and not merely used the summary explanation of "gutter oil is made from processed sewage".

Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[7]

In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, "Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil."[8]

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 13:53, January 26, 2025 (EST)

Yah, it only took a year and half for you clarify your bigotry with 6,600 more bytes of Sinophobia. Meanwhile, you added a few hundred thousand more bytes of bigotry in dozens of other essays. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:26, January 26, 2025 (EST)

Bigotry or I stated facts that you don't like about your "pet countries" of Russia/China/North Korea/Iran/Syria? It's time for you to get some new pets and no longer settle for your mangy pets.Conservative (talk) 14:31, January 26, 2025 (EST)

Any casual observer can see you inserting "Chinese sewage eating" in the mainspace China article is bigotry. And it has harmed both Conservapedia's reputation and editors. If such "facts" are of interest to anybody, they would belong on a separate page (with the title of the page open for debate). Even linking to such a page from the Mainspace article should have been debated. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:41, January 26, 2025 (EST)

After you fought tooth and nail to keep the error in the Bill Browder article until you finally relented do you really want to write an essay related to stubbornness?

RobSmith, in the Bill Browder article, you fought tooth and nail to keep the error in the Bill Browder article until you finally relented and this is documented at Talk:Bill Browder.

So you really want to throw stones given your glass house?

Furthermore, you have yet to show one error in my various works related to international relations, Russia or China. Conservative (talk) 12:53, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Been over this dozens of times; your job was to post the Fact tag, and leave it at that. Not harass editors for hours and hours on end. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:29, January 26, 2025 (EST)

After you displayed gross ignorance about the state of unhappiness in Russia and told me how great it is, do you really want to write an essay dealing with ignorance?

In 2023, Russia ranked 74 out of 150 countries on the World happiness index.World Happiness Index 2023 Country Wise List The World Happiness Index 2023 Report will mark its 10th anniversary with the Globe Happiness Reflect, which compiles data from international surveys to show how people rank their lives in more than 150 countries.World Happiness Index 2023 Country Wise List

According to Statista.com, the happiness index, calculated as the difference between shares of happy and unhappy people, reached 18 percent in Russia in 2021, down from 51 points in 2016. To compare, an average of 44 countries surveyed worldwide was measured at 43 percent in 2021, having increased from the previous year.Happiness index in Russia compared to the world from 2011 to 2021

I cover a lot about the state of Russian unhappiness in my essay at Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?.

In summary: I trust this helps clarify who is often ignorant about Russia. Conservative (talk) 12:59, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

I realize nothing is true for you in your simpleton mindset until you read about it in the fake news media. But the quality of your education really isn't the subject of this essay. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Concerning your lame stupidity charge concerning me

Concerning the lame stupidity charge against me. It one of the lamest claims I have ever seen in my life. And it is a direct violation of Conservapedia's civility rules. Given that you created Team CP which supposedly is focused on civility and the fact that you only got one person to sign up, this is not surprising. And the one person who signed up for Team CP, voted in favor of me in the only dispute he voted on between us.

Furthermore, based on my college entrance scores and a table that correlates college entrance exams with a person's IQ and other data, I estimate my IQ is in the top 5% of people.

In addition, high IQ people accept logical conclusions, but you constantly use logical fallacies. Also, people who do not have a very high IQ frequently engage in either/or thinking and partisan thinking. High IQ people are more inclined towards probabilistic thinking and balancing between seemingly paradoxical possibilities and integrating various views when possible. You on the other hand engage in Russia/China cheerleading. In addition, people who don't have very high IQs often attempt to rationalize their errors. People with very high IQs see no point in hesitating to admit them. Your protracted failure to admit your error in the Bill Browder article which is documented in the article's talk page, clearly shows that are extremely resistant to admit errors. Conservative (talk) 18:02, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Stop trolling and acting like such a simpleton. 18:04, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

The planet borders on WWIII and you got your head in a Russian toilet out of spite toward a fellow editor. Get your head out of the toilet and stop being such a simpleton. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:06, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

I thought you had a high IQ and were a geopolitical expert? Why is your head in a Russian toilet right now at this crucial moment? More civilians have been killed in Gaza the past month than the past year and half in Ukraine. I am thoroughly fed up and disgusted with your trolling and simpleton ways. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:09, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

You told me that Russia was a fabulous place to live. I showed it wasn't and clearly demonstrated via a lot of data (including a large study on people's happiness in various countries) that a great deal of Russians are unhappy compared to people in other developed countries (See: Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?). Rather than admit you were wrong about Russia which would be the intelligent thing to do, you are extremely hesitant to admit your error. In short, you are hardly in a position to charge someone else with stupidity.

Furthermore, Professor John Mearsheimer (who predicted the war in Ukraine significantly before it occurred) says the probability of a nuclear war is very low, but it is higher than in the past. Of course, I would like it to be zero, but at least it's not high and very low. I am not going to be chicken little and cry the sky is falling when it is not. So I suggest you get a grip on yourself and stop your incessant cries of WWWIII and/or a nuclear war is around the corner. High IQ people tend to have higher emotional intelligence and don't wet their pants when the probability of unlikely deleterious/horrible events increases. While I think the probability of WWIII has gone up in my lifetime, Mearsheimer agrees with me that while it is higher than in the past it is unlikely. Conservative (talk) 18:30, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

When are you going to end your jihad against Conservapedia view traffic?

Through the following graphs, we will measure the effects of internal Conservapedia trolling on web traffic which began June 30, 2023.

Results of internal Conservapedia trolling attacks, June 30, 2023 - October 20, 2023.

Evidently User:Conservabiden is pro-Biden's open border policies as he continues to spew racist garbage about Russia's demographics in multiple Essays.

CDC data, between 2007 and 2022, the U.S. birth rate fell by 22%. Not a single state reported an increase in birth rates.

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:34, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Covid vaccine & AIDS

Update: Shocking Government Report Admits AIDS Is Surging Among Covid-Vaccinated.

So if anyone had listened to User:Conservative and got covid vaccinated, they now are at risk for AIDS. Even Vladimir Putin can't brag of such an achievement. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:42, October 24, 2024 (EDT)

Russia didn't have a lot of success as far as tackling the coronavirus: Russia and the coronavirus pandemic statistics.

As far as I am aware, I haven't being infected with the coronavirus virus. But if I was, it was such a mild case that I am not aware of the infection. So as as much as hate to do it, I declare total victory over Putinism when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic! Olé! Olé! Olé! Conservative (talk) 13:13, January 26, 2025 (EST)

You misspelled the word wholeheartedly

RobSmith, you misspelled the word wholeheartedly in your essay. You spelled it "whole heartedly". I don't know if this was done purposefully or if it was done out of ignorance.

Also, remember the maxim that the burden of proof is upon the claimant. At least in estimation, in a great deal of instances in this essay, you failed to clear this bar. Conservative (talk) 13:03, January 26, 2025 (EST)