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Initial edits

  • Thanks for fixing those cites on the mutation page, I haven't had time to figure that out yet. Appreciate it!
Yes, I will work on that article. Thanks for the suggestion Geo. Crocoitetalk 02:31, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
  • Would you care to define tolerance? The red color on that link, as you may know, indicates an article which has not been written yet. --Ed Poor 13:20, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Yes, I will start the tolerance article. Thanks for the suggestion Ed. Crocoitetalk 13:43, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Since the article was started while I was in edit mode, I made additions to the article. Crocoitetalk 14:28, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

article citations

You're welcome! Karajou 20:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

Not quite

Sub-pages of your userspace are made with a "/", not a "\". Right now you're technically intruding into other userspaces. It's not urgent, but maybe ask a sysop to move the pages in question to the proper space next time you talk to one. --Sid 3050 15:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Moved pages in question

New pages have the exact title name as before, the exception being the change from \ to /. Karajou 17:07, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Template

Hey, if you're ever creating a template, to add it to the template category, add: <noinclude>[[Category:Template]]</noinclude>. To set templates to automatically add whatever page they're used on to a category put in: <includeonly>[[Category:whatever]]</includeonly>. Enjoy!

Thanks for copy editing Smithsonian-Sternberg affair

Just wanted to say thanks for copy editing the contribution. HeartOfGold 13:12, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Crazies to the left...

I restored the page. There was no copyright violation, as the article tells what the book is about. If you do use actual quotations from the book, dont forget the (Goldberg, pg. 50) at the end of the line in question. If you need a second opinion as well, Aschafly will also be glad to chip in. Karajou 18:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I don't agree that there was no copyright violation because "the article tells what the book is about", but probably there was no violation since it was only a limited portion that was quoted for legitimate reasons. Er, except that I'm not sure what those reasons are. Is this meant to be an article about a book, or what? If it is, I think it's more appropriate to actually describe the book in your own words than to have virtually all of the article being the publisher's description. So copyright may not be the issue, but I think it would be better if it was not mostly a quote. Philip J. Rayment 11:02, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
P.S. And Conservapedia's desire to not have articles about every little thing makes me wonder if there is justification for articles about books at all (with a few obvious exceptions). Philip J. Rayment 11:03, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

It was not me

It was not me. Thats not the first time that someone has tried to frame me see here [1] look who is making the change.Bohdan Talk 13:05, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Cube

As a mineralogist perhaps you'd like to join the debate. Gerrard 13:08, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Gerrard, thanks for the suggestion. I'm an amateur mineralogist and that discussion is a bit over my head. I'm more interested in the actual minerals and less about crystallography. Crocoite Talk 13:30, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Sysop

You got my vote as sysop, so I'll be nudging Andy about it over the next few weeks until it happens. Karajou 20:29, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

geology stuff

Hey, just wanted to touch base with you and let you know what I was doing. I've been categorizing most of your enteries into the Geology category. I also put the Mineral category you created as a subcategory of Geology. I think if we want to come up with any further categories to lump some of these terms in, we should keep placing them as subcategories under Geology. Chances are you will have a much better idea as to how you would want them categorized than I will, I'm just doing some grunt work. :) --Colest 09:48, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks

Thanks for all your hard work and article creations. It's been much appreciated. DanH 22:41, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

I have voiced my support for you.Богдан Talk 23:20, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
Your on fire! How many new pages is that tonight? Богдан Talk 00:05, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
Thanks Bohdan - About 56 new pages. That might be it for today ;-) I'm leaving now to take my family to see Shrek 3. Godspeed. Crocoite Talk Support my RfA) 00:12, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Thanks for reverting that Abuse attack! You have your hat in the ring for Sysop? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 03:49, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
Yes, I do.[2] I had to even revert my pages when I got caught in the cross fire. Crocoite Talk Support my RfA) 05:13, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Endorsement by me has always been a mixed blessing among the users, and now even more so being at odds with some CP procedures. But for what it might be worth, I have offered my qualified support. I just will not support promotions for people who do not have/use IM and with no email enabled through this board at a minimum. Not saying that fits you, just saying I don't know. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 05:28, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
  • You just cannot imagine what trouble you invite by posting that here, lol. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 05:36, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Your template(s)

Hello DeanS.

You were the creator of the {{mineral}} template, and perhaps others also. Since late May 2007, Conservapedia requires that all templates be properly documented. Please see Creating templates for instructions on this. If the template(s) are not documented, they will be deleted. Thank you for your co-operation in this.
As this template was created before this policy was adopted, we will be flexible about enforcing this policy, but documentation is still required.

Alternatively, if a particular template is no longer required, please ask a sysop to delete it.
Thanks for that.


Philip J. Rayment 10:24, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

I will document this template later today. Crocoite Talk Support my RfA) 11:41, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
Done Crocoite Talk Support my RfA) 23:03, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
Thanks. Actually, this has highlighted a problem with the "optional" bit. Typing {{mineral}} (i.e. not supplying any parameters) is not going to work. In that sense, the parameters are not optional at all. There are three cases: (1) can be omitted, (2) can be blank, and (3) must be provided. The Name parameter of {{mineral}} is hardly optional; it must be provided. The rest can be blank, but cannot be omitted. I'll have to think about how to best document this, so don't worry about it for now. By the way, the "cat" field was for the category (if any) that the template applies to pages it is put on, which in this case is "mineral", not "template". Anyway, I've fixed that for you.
How many uses of this template have pictures? The template should be altered to just require the image name, not the entire [[image:name.jpg]] code, but changing it now will break any that are already used.
Philip J. Rayment 02:56, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

You're a Sysop now!

Crocoite,

Conservapedia’s entry count has reached 10,500, and due to your outstanding contributions, you have been chosen as a winner of the Sysop contest. Congratulations! Here are some links about your new privileges:

Thank you for your excellent contributions to Conservapedia. We look forward to building this site with your help.

Sincerely,

The Conservapedia Panel

User:CPanel

Thank you for this recognition! I will review this material so I can assist you as a Sysop. Crocoite Talk 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations! DanH 16:12, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Dan :) Crocoite Talk 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Well done. Богдан Talk 16:52, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Congratulations!!! Very well deserved!--Aschlafly 17:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
You definitely deserved this promotion. It will be great to have you as a Sysop. ~ SharonTalk 18:30, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Congratulations!--Tash 22:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
You've deserved it. Niandra talk 00:21, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Congrats on becoming the newest Sysop...I know it's late but hey! Karajou 23:31, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Images

Crocoite, thanks for all your efforts. By the way, if and when you upload any images, then please make sure you protect them at the Sysop level, so that only Sysops can move or modify them. Thanks.--Aschlafly 01:16, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Will do. Thanks for your support. Crocoite Talk 01:24, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Ruining fun.....

-( --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 04:46, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

G-d

Crocoite, I doubt this will happen often, but I did revert your news item about "G-d". That is standard Jewish terminology for God, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's not anti-religious in any way.--Aschlafly 00:34, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

I wasn't aware of the Jewish terminology for God, but an explanation seems like an appropriate edit for the Jewish article. Crocoite Talk 00:44, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Crocoite, you have to send private emails to my same id on aol. For some reason the email here does not forward to me. Thanks.--Aschlafly 02:10, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Vandals

Nasty buggers these vandals are!!--Will N. 19:28, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, they're annoying, but they were even worse with upload privileges ;-) Crocoite Talk 19:34, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
O ya no doubt!!--Will N. 19:36, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Email?

You posted you were sending some email, but I have not received it. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 08:27, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

I just sent another email directly from Yahoo, instead of this site. Crocoite Talk 09:39, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Christianity template

I believe that we will not resolve the Mormon/Christianity template issue between us. Therefore, I appealed to Andy for final resolution. Conservative 20:26, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Vandal Question

I'm new here, and have a question. If I see a user vandalizing the place, what's the proper procedure, particularly if the vandalism is ongoing? Should I assume one of the sysops will catch it, or do I contact one of them (and if so, what is the best means when time is of the essence)? (And let me note that "JohnV" seems to be a vandal, and "MikeHunt", while he hasn't done anything yet, has an obviously inappropriate name which stopped being funny in junior high...).--Pete 11:43, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Pete, at the bottom of the Main Page is a section titled Report vandalism or abuse. Click Conservapedia:Abuse. This is where you can report abuse of editing privileges. Please make notes short and concise. Unsigned posts will be removed. Crocoite Talk 12:12, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
Oh, excellent. Thank you.--Pete 14:22, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Why so aggressive?

I'm curious - why did you come after me so hard and fast? I mean no harm, and you were very aggressive - it seemed I had barely joined and you were trying to ban me? Yes, I had made a few comments, which I thought were very fair and balanced, but your aggresive repsonse does not befit this site DoggedPersistence 18:47, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

I looked at your edits and they seem like troll behavior. Crocoite Talk 18:56, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

"Seem like" - you might do well to consider your own words. You are guilty of being very judgemental. See Limerick for a constructive entry, which I hadn't had a chance to post before you slurred me. As to my other entries, I think they were perfectly constructive, and I have yet to see a reason why New Ordeal should be considered a valid entry - it's clearly just the author's own catchphrase. DoggedPersistence 19:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Your postings here are starting to look a bit trollish. Bohdan 19:16, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Crocoite, I think he should be banned indef for 90/10 & trolling. Do you mind if I do it? RobS 20:21, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Rob, go ahead. Thanks! Crocoite Talk 20:24, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks

Thanks much for your alert efforts tonight, Crocoite. I've just tightened security and you can take a break if you like.--Aschlafly 01:25, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

You're welcome Andy! I hope you like the new Reid Bryson article. Crocoite Talk 01:30, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Crocoite, I have to go. Good luck with fighting the this vandal. Bohdan 00:00, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Awesome!!!

Awesome work, Crocoite!!! God bless you!--Aschlafly 00:19, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Ditto!! They are no match for us, ever! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:47, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

user:Loskids

She is unblocked. The block was due to an IP addy problem. Karajou 01:59, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Vandals

(high five) nice vandal-fighting! I am laughing over looking at the recent changes list... there are a bunch of new accouts, and a bunch lines of us blocking users... and then a few "Young Earth Creationism"s highlighted. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 19:37, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Use the Block Log; hit block, then block again, then go "back" two pages, and repeat... --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 19:42, 25 June 2007 (EDT)


  • Email me this one, Hoji...for its news to me. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:43, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

welcome back

Thank goodness you reconsidered. It's only been a little while, but I already missed you. Bohdan 03:10, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Bohdan! I need to be more patient and de-stress once in awhile. Crocoite 03:15, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

Quick work

Thanks: [3] You beat me to it. :-) --Ed Poor Talk 22:33, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

Painting

You are welcome! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:01, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

I am glad you decided to stay here!

How about being in my team in next contest?

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:38, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

The page about the contest is here ~ SharonTalk 09:02, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

You need to make a new page for Contest Personal Record. Take a look here. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:26, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Done. Thanks for your sample page. --Crocoite 18:35, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Internationalisation

I'm definitely not complaining, but I see that you've internationalised the breaking news yourself! Great! Philip J. Rayment 21:22, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

I'm trying to incorporate your idea, but sometimes you will still see the need for cleanup. --Crocoite 21:26, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

HumanEvoPage

You could just delete it. --BethTalk2ME 09:28, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

That is true; however, this process prevents the page from being recreated again. --Crocoite 09:31, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
What is the problem with a new page of that name being created? For that matter, apart from the pro-evolutionary bias in the article, what was so wrong with it that it needed to be deleted? Philip J. Rayment 09:44, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
As you saw from the troll/vandal attack, they wanted us to leave those articles in CP, so they can come back later and vandalize them again. Thanks for helping clean up the mess. --Crocoite 10:33, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
Yes, simply deleting them would allow them to recreate them again. But then protecting them didn't really stop them, did it? Philip J. Rayment 10:38, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

They are still at it. I'm going to lock the database. Philip J. Rayment 10:40, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Good work

At this rhythm we will win for sure. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 02:53, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, just doing my part. :-) --Crocoite 03:00, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

I asked them 2 times. No answer. No answer means YES in legal terms. Something could be gained anyway. Truly in God. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:05, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent work for CP. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 10:52, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

The table looks fine so far; perhaps we can hack the {{president}} or {{Prime Minister}} later to create a standardized infobox for each governor's details. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 16:29, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Good work! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:02, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Copyright of state government materials

The matter I e-mailed you about is at User talk:Aschlafly#Copyright of state government materials. I didn't mean to cause a commotion over all of this; I just wanted to make sure things got done right so there's no headaches later, you know? AManInBlack 15:11, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

  • No, I don't know. For someone so experienced in wiki's and their politics, especially a place like WP, I find your comments, at the very least, to be disingenius. There is no need for a form letter, unless you can cite one instance of some State or the Governor thereof, objecting to, and instituting legal procedures against, an educational site for using the picture of their Chief Executive. Can you do this? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 15:34, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Didn't mean to start this up on your talk page, Crocoite, just wanted to let you know about the thread on Andy's talk. AManInBlack 15:49, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

  • So, you cannot. That is all I was asking about.... --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:25, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
I would rather not get into this in four different places at once. In any event, Andy seems to have resolved the issue. AManInBlack 17:16, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Yes, as you plainly see, it was resolved just as I repeatedly tried to tell you. You do have a problem with etiquette here. Work on it. Please. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:29, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Would you please categorize...

the article Main Page/Previous Conservapedia Breaking News? Since you're the protecting sysop I thought you'd like first crack at it. I suggest "conservapedia maintenance" or "conservapedia administration" but as an admin here it's obviously your call. :) Aziraphale 12:13, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Done. Thanks for your categorizing contributions. --Crocoite 12:35, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
My pleasure, thanks for your help! Aziraphale 12:36, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Winners

Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:19, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations!! We won! DeborahB. 11:10, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Thanks. Great teamwork! --Crocoite 11:55, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

This Just In....

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style "What Not To Add To Articles". Just a FYI, Per Andy. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:07, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks TK. That makes sense. --Crocoite 19:20, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

categorizing articles

Hello Crocoite, :)
I noticed that you've created a number of archives of past breaking news. Would you please categorize them when you create them? We've just about got the uncategorized list licked, but keeping it worked down will be easier if editors place their new articles in to a category. I've put the ones you made so far in cat:conservapedia administration. If you feel there's a better category by all means use it, they're your articles. :D Thanks, Aziraphale 16:38, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the cats. Yes, I will add a cat to the new articles. --Crocoite 17:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)
merci! Aziraphale 01:05, 2 August 2007 (EDT) <-honh honh...
  • I messaged you on Yahoo, and evidently you didn't get the offline? Is there a reason we should be archiving the past news pages? --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 01:39, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
I will answer on Yahoo now. --Crocoite 02:05, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Dean

Hurricane is coming over our heads...

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 11:48, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

You're in my prayers. Let me know how you're doing after it passes. --Crocoite 11:52, 20 August 2007 (EDT)


I WILL...

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 20:55, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Interference

Ahhh...interference on the main page!! I hate that...DeborahB. 12:02, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

Hi Deborah. That's why I save my edits to notepad first, so I can add them in when the conflict is over ;-). --Crocoite 12:06, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
Yea...at first I thought I lost it, but then I went back a few pages and just control-c'ed it. Same concept :) DeborahB. 12:10, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

request

I know we have disagreed on things but I think we have done so amicably. On the other hand, I would appreciate it if you added your two cents regarding my last post to the Talk:Atheism‎ article. I ask this because I know you also believe in the moral depravity of atheism as you stated that atheism is evil at Conservapedia. Conservative 15:24, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

Done. --Crocoite 15:46, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

Conservative links

Thank you for your comment. Please do whatever you think that could improve the article. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:02, 2 September 2007 (EDT)

Andy wants us to make explanation for the links set in this article. Could you help? Thanks! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 07:45, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

Contest

Would you be interested in going after another victory and joining team one (to be named) in the contest? --Tash 19:04, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the invite Tash. I would like to join your team with the understanding I'm now working 7 days a week and will have limited time to contribute to the contest. I don't want your team to lose because of me. ;-) --Crocoite 19:19, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

No problem, I have SAT's in two weeks... so I;m going to be busy as well... you're in!--Tash 19:23, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Help

Could you please unblock. I can't find the way.

08:34, 23 September 2007 Joaquín Martínez (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "ConservativeMom (contribs)" with an expiry time of infinite (name) Retrieved from "http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Blockip" --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:58, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

Try this Special:Ipblocklist. Then unblock.
I can still do the unblock for you Joaquín if you're still having problems. --Crocoite 09:03, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
Done. Thank you my friend. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 09:11, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

Why the reverts?

The first Conservapedia Commandment states that you shouldn't copy (although public domain sources seem to be excluded from this for some reason) unless it was your own work.

Considering that the articles you created are complete copies of a copyrighted page, I now ask for proof that you are the original author of that page. --Jenkins 10:43, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

Jenkins, these articles were not copied from the source you described; however, I am going to delete them until I find the appropriate government reference. --Crocoite 10:52, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

http://rationalwiki.com

Come on over. --LinkedToCommiePlot 10:55, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

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