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[[Christopher Hitchens]] debated [[William Lane Craig]] at Biola University in 2009 in a videotaped debate.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8 Christopher Hitchens vs William Lane Craig - Does God Exist - 2009].</ref> The atheist Luke Muehlhauser wrote concerning the debate: "The debate went exactly as I expected. Craig was flawless and unstoppable. Hitchens was rambling and incoherent, with the occasional rhetorical jab. Frankly, Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child."<ref>[http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=1230#sthash.mPNNrzlt.dpuf The Craig-Hitchens Debate] by Luke Muehlhauser on April 4, 2009 in Debates,Reviews,William Lane Craig</ref>
 
[[Christopher Hitchens]] debated [[William Lane Craig]] at Biola University in 2009 in a videotaped debate.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBx4vvlbZ8 Christopher Hitchens vs William Lane Craig - Does God Exist - 2009].</ref> The atheist Luke Muehlhauser wrote concerning the debate: "The debate went exactly as I expected. Craig was flawless and unstoppable. Hitchens was rambling and incoherent, with the occasional rhetorical jab. Frankly, Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child."<ref>[http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=1230#sthash.mPNNrzlt.dpuf The Craig-Hitchens Debate] by Luke Muehlhauser on April 4, 2009 in Debates,Reviews,William Lane Craig</ref>
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== Homosexuality vs. the Holy Spirit ==
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In 1980 a study was published in the ''American Journal of Psychiatry'' and eleven men participated in a study about men [[overcoming homosexuality]].  The ''American Journal of Psychiatry'' stated that eleven [[Homosexuality|homosexual]] men became heterosexuals "without explicit treatment and/or long-term psychotherapy"  through their participation in a [[Pentecostalism|Pentecostal]] church.<ref>E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980</ref> 
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[[File:Stephen-Fry.jpg|thumbnail|250px|center|[[Stephen Fry]] is an [[atheist]] and a [[homosexual]].
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Clearly, if he loved chocolate cake less and God more, Fry could be free of homosexuality.<ref>E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980</ref> See also: [[Atheism and obesity]]
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And gentlemen, which scenario is more exciting: 1) Being with a lovely, long-haired, sweet, Christian lady with flowing locks of luxurious hair 2) Being with an obese, atheist homosexual? 
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In 1990, the [[atheism|atheist]] philosopher [[Michael Martin]] indicated there was a general [[Atheism and apathy|absence of an atheistic response]] to contemporary work in the [[philosophy]] of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to [[theism|theistic]] arguments.<ref>''Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith'' by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201</ref>  Yet, in 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with [[Greg Bahnsen]] (see: [[Greg Bahnsen and debate]] and [[Press release after Michael Martin pulled out of Martin-Bahnsen debate|Bahnson-Martin debate press release]]).<ref>[http://simpleapologetics.com/thegreatdebate.html The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein]</ref><ref>[http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/Bahnsen.htm Bahsen at the Stein debate] by John Frame</ref>
 
In 1990, the [[atheism|atheist]] philosopher [[Michael Martin]] indicated there was a general [[Atheism and apathy|absence of an atheistic response]] to contemporary work in the [[philosophy]] of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to [[theism|theistic]] arguments.<ref>''Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith'' by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201</ref>  Yet, in 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with [[Greg Bahnsen]] (see: [[Greg Bahnsen and debate]] and [[Press release after Michael Martin pulled out of Martin-Bahnsen debate|Bahnson-Martin debate press release]]).<ref>[http://simpleapologetics.com/thegreatdebate.html The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein]</ref><ref>[http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/Bahnsen.htm Bahsen at the Stein debate] by John Frame</ref>

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Global atheism is in decline.

The American sociologist Peter L. Berger wrote, "One can say with some confidence that modern Pentecostalism must be the fastest growing religion in human history."[1]

29 percent of American atheists attend some church services.[2] Christians do not attend atheist meetings. Most atheist do not attend atheist meetings. See: American atheists and church attendance

Atheist meetings often tend to be unexciting affairs. Atheist Francois Tremblay wrote: "One last problem that undermines any propagation of atheism is inspiration. Let's be honest here, 'there is no god!' is not a very motivating call for most people."[3]

Which meeting looks more exciting?

The atheist PZ Myers giving a talk at George Mason University. In June of 2010, PZ Myers commented that atheist meetings tend to be significantly more attended by males.[4] See also: Atheism and women
Compared to charasmatic/pentecostal church services where there is faith healing, speaking in tongues (and interpretation of tongues) and prophetic words, atheist meetings are humdrum.

As you can see be the picture on the above left, grim atheists generally don't raise their hands during their meetings. Please see: Hopelessness of atheism

Reverend Dwight Longenecker wrote: "In the late eighteenth century atheism, rationalism and Freemasonry seemed to have taken over Europe. By the mid to late nineteenth century religious revival had swept through Europe and Christianity was surging forward."[5] Due to the grim nature of atheism, there have been no atheist revivals. See also: Atheism vs. Christian revivals

Which picture is more joyous?

Watoto Children's Choir, Uganda.
Secular societies commonly have significant levels of loneliness. See: Atheism and loneliness

No Bambi vs. Godzilla debate spectacles are permitted at atheist conferences

Dr. Greg Bahnsen became known as "the man atheists fear most" due to Michael Martin's cancellation of their scheduled debate.[6][7]

At the Reason Rally and the 2010 global atheist convention in Australia, Christian offers were extended as far as debate, but the debate offers were declined by atheists (see: Atheism and debate).[8][9]

Watching an atheism vs. Christianity debate is like watching Bambi try to defeat Godzilla. It just cannot happen.

Christopher Hitchens debated William Lane Craig at Biola University in 2009 in a videotaped debate.[10] The atheist Luke Muehlhauser wrote concerning the debate: "The debate went exactly as I expected. Craig was flawless and unstoppable. Hitchens was rambling and incoherent, with the occasional rhetorical jab. Frankly, Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child."[11]

Homosexuality vs. the Holy Spirit

See also: Atheism and homosexuality

In 1980 a study was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry and eleven men participated in a study about men overcoming homosexuality. The American Journal of Psychiatry stated that eleven homosexual men became heterosexuals "without explicit treatment and/or long-term psychotherapy" through their participation in a Pentecostal church.[12]

Stephen Fry is an atheist and a homosexual.

Clearly, if he loved chocolate cake less and God more, Fry could be free of homosexuality.[13] See also: Atheism and obesity

And gentlemen, which scenario is more exciting: 1) Being with a lovely, long-haired, sweet, Christian lady with flowing locks of luxurious hair 2) Being with an obese, atheist homosexual?

In 1990, the atheist philosopher Michael Martin indicated there was a general absence of an atheistic response to contemporary work in the philosophy of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to theistic arguments.[14] Yet, in 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with Greg Bahnsen (see: Greg Bahnsen and debate and Bahnson-Martin debate press release).[15][16]

See also

References

  1. Pentecostalism – Protestant Ethic or Cargo Cult?, Peter Berger, July 29, 2010
  2. Why Do Some Atheists Go to Church?, The Public Religion Research Institute
  3. Herding Cats: Why atheism will lose by Francois Tremblay
  4. Myers, P.Z. (June 29, 2010). "The woman problem". Pharyngula [blog].
  5. The Facts: Atheism is Dying Out, by Rev. Dwight Longenecker, April 8, 2015
  6. Bahsen at the Stein debate by John Frame
  7. The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein
  8. True Reason apologists not welcome at Reason Rally for atheists
  9. Ammi, Ken (May 2010). "Richard Dawkins the cowardly clown". True Freethinker. Retrieved on July 30, 2014.
  10. Christopher Hitchens vs William Lane Craig - Does God Exist - 2009.
  11. The Craig-Hitchens Debate by Luke Muehlhauser on April 4, 2009 in Debates,Reviews,William Lane Craig
  12. E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980
  13. E.M. Pattison and M.L. Pattison, "'Ex-Gays': Religiously Mediated Change in Homosexuals," American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 137, pp. 1553-1562, 1980
  14. Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201
  15. The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein
  16. Bahsen at the Stein debate by John Frame