Talk:Gay bashing

The term "gay bashing", in the real world, refers to physical violence against gay people, but this article is mostly about violence committed by gay people. I guess you can redefine terms as you see fit, but that doesn't make this site very "trustworthy," at least for people who live in the real world. FredJ (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

Wikipedia defines gay bashing as "Gay bashing and gay bullying is verbal or physical abuse against a person who is perceived by the aggressor to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, including persons who are actually heterosexual."

It is not Conservapedia's fault that most gay bashing is done by homosexuals.Conservative (talk) 03:50, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

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Where did you find that statistic? (And isn't Wikipedia supposed to be unreliable?) FredJ (talk) 08:46, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

You presumably know that the internet is a big place, and one can find statements in support of just about any viewpoint, however outlandish or nonsensical-by-the-standards-of-normal-sensible-people they may be. If one spends huge amounts of time scouring the internet for wacky statements, one will find them.

"Seek, and ye shall find" -- Matthew 7:7. (Am I saying the internet is like God? No.)

There are a few people at Conservapedia who frequently do this, User:Conservative ("Cons") perhaps foremost among them. I still occasionally find treasure troves of this sort of thing, like this thing about someone named "cultofdusty", who posted some silly thing on youtube about how atheists own the internet. If a normal person came across such tripe they would simply move on, after promising themselves not to spend so much time clicking on asinine youtube videos.

On another topic, please be aware that posting {{fact}} tags at Conservapedia almost never ends well. Countering misinformation is not easy. Choose your battles carefully.

SamHB (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

Notice

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With the refusal of the original author to review the language and wording of this content, and absence of an apology to the Conservapedia community, as an Administrative action I am posting a disclaimer on this article. Thank you for your attention. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:55, May 26, 2024 (EDT)

User:Conservative wrote: [1] "if the attacker went to the gay bashing and homosexual agenda articles, then it is very likely that he went to the Conservapedia homosexuality article which states: "Dr. Alex D. Montoya wrote: bla bla bla"

Why doesn't User Conservative just copy paste that quote into the two articles in question (as he does in all his alleged "content") and should have done 15 years ago to avoid this mess? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:48, May 28, 2024 (EDT)

User:Conservative: Thank you for beginning a review. Don't forget, you will still owe the Conservapedia community an apology when it is completed. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:29, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

My response to this notice

Personal remark removed, I wrote a response to your Personal remark removed at: RE: The autistic man off his meds attacking a homosexual after reading Conservapedia's "gay bashing" and 'Homosexual agenda" articles the previous year.

In addition, wrote this:

Personal remark removed

Furthermore, I wrote this:

"Oh, wow - NOT. An Oregon, liberal, United States Attorney, has an opinion about Conservapedia in the case of a mentally disturbed person who was off his meds who attacked a homosexual seeking unnatural sex via Grndr. Well, opinions are still not facts no matter how much you wish them to be. I am totally unimpressed. Point out a single factual error in one of my homosexuality articles (which the Personal remark removed finds very informative and have been very popular articles). Oh, Personal remark removed were as well-trafficked as my popular articles on atheism and homosexuality! Personal remark removed!"

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 16:43, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Oh, you're not going to apologize to the community. You think you can spam your way out of this mess. You're doubling down on another big mistake. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:49, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

By the way, why are you so sensitive about Lesbianism and obesity article and claiming my other articles on obesity are insensitive? There must be a reason. What is it? Conservative (talk) 16:58, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

My mothers' a fat lesbian. You wanna make something of it? She'll be seated at the left hand of Jesus long before you ever see daylight from the depths of hell where all haters end up. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:15, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

RobSmith, you wrote to User: Karajou: "My mother died in 1968. I find your comment insensitive and offensive. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:02, March 31, 2024 (EDT)"

So is your mother a living fat lesbian or is she dead? Both cannot be true.

Furthermore, the Bible says: "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them." - Romans 1: 26-29 (ESV)

The Bible is definitely against lesbianism, deceit and gossiping. Conservative (talk) 17:26, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

So why are you such an ardent proponent of gay bashing? There must be a reason? Did one of those public school atheists who used to mock you and beat you up for attending a special school seduce you and now you're on a crusade of revenge? Forgive so that you can be forgiven. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:46, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Please answer my simple question: So is your mother a living fat lesbian like you just told me or did she die in 1968 like you told User: Karajou at User talk:Karajou - Gen. Michael Flynn. Both cannot be true. Conservative (talk) 17:53, June 9, 2024 (EDT) (ec)

“	Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee...	”
—Luke, chapt 7

The gospel is all about forgiveness and reconciliation, not vengeance and condemnation, as you preach. May God have mercy on your soul. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:59, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

“	Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? ...whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.	”
—Matt chapt 12

I have visited women in jail too, and have many fat lesbian sisters and mothers.

And some of those lesbians aren't so fat, and actually pretty good looking. When I meet a two-faced psychopath Personal remark removed, I can understand why they are so afraid and untrusting of men. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:06, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Just remember what Jesus said, What goes around comes around. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:17, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Personal remark removed I still don't believe that you visit people in jail. Also, people who visit people in jail generally don't trumpet the fact.

Until you get down on your knees with a murderer and pray with them to ask God for forgiveness, I'm not interested in any of your faux spirituality or Christianity. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:33, June 13, 2024 (EDT)

Also, I wrote a response at: [[Essay: Attention all supporters of the fat acceptance movement. I will never accept your fatness. Lose some weight]]. Conservative (talk) 18:41, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Oh, you calling the word of God deceit now? Interesting. Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:13, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Why liberal and leftist snowflakes don't like my articles on gay bashing, gay bowel syndrome and obesity

Please see: [[Essay: Why liberal and leftist snowflakes don't like my articles on gay bashing, gay bowel syndrome and obesity]]. Conservative (talk) 21:37, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Maybe you're just a sick person with a sick mind, and criticism of these alleged "works" isn't limited to "liberal snowflakes". Your thinking so is just another example of you splitting (psychology) thinking. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:49, June 9, 2024 (EDT)

Russia and China

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• Russia has anti-LGBTQ+ propaganda laws. According to Bloomberg News, being gay in China has gotten harder under Xi Jinping.

This article is about violence against homosexuals, and the Russian citations do not address that phenomenon. The Russian cites are about anti--gay propaganda laws aimed to protect children. I'm not sure what the liberal/leftist/commie Bloomberg News cite says, so it needs to be reviewed. Given Bloombergs commercial dependence on the CCP, it's doubtful it has anything of relevance for this particular article, but it needs to be reviewed anyway. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:19, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Grok: Does the Conservapedia article Gay bashing commit logical fallacies?

Yes, the article commits several logical fallacies. While it includes citations (e.g., Bible verses, forensic journals), these often serve biased narratives rather than balanced reasoning. Below, I outline key fallacies with examples, using a table for clarity:

Fallacy TypeDescriptionExample from ArticleStraw ManMisrepresenting an opposing view to make it easier to attack, often by exaggerating or oversimplifying it.The article implies critics of Christianity might equate biblical anti-homosexuality stances (e.g., Leviticus 20:13) with endorsing modern vigilante violence, then refutes this by citing New Testament fulfillment of the Law. This sets up a distorted version of the critique (e.g., ignoring nuanced debates on biblical interpretation) to "prove" Christianity's innocence, without addressing actual arguments about historical or cultural influences on anti-LGBTQ+ attitudes.False Dichotomy (or Oversimplification)Presenting only two extreme options when more exist, ignoring nuance or middle ground.Religious sections create a binary: Christianity/Judaism = compassionate anti-violence (e.g., "befriend and witness to the homosexual with...love"), vs. Islam = unqualified endorsement of killing (quoting the Quran without context and claiming "many Muslims see that command as enforceable today"). This ignores diverse interpretations within Islam (e.g., progressive Muslim scholars) or Christianity (e.g., historical uses of Leviticus to justify discrimination), reducing complex theologies to absolutes.Cherry-Picking (or Suppression of Evidence)Selectively citing evidence that supports the conclusion while omitting contradictory data.In "Homosexual on Homosexual Violence," it highlights forensic studies claiming "overkill" and higher injury counts in same-sex homicides (e.g., 1996 American Journal of Forensic Medicine abstract) and Statistics Canada data on domestic violence rates. However, it suppresses broader context: these studies often note small sample sizes, don't prove causation, and overlook higher overall violence risks for LGBTQ+ people from external sources (e.g., FBI hate crime stats showing anti-LGBTQ+ incidents outnumber intra-community ones). The focus shifts blame inward, minimizing "gay bashing" as the core issue.Ad Hominem (or Loaded Language with Bias)Attacking or biasing against a group/person through derogatory terms rather than engaging arguments.Phrases like "Palestinian-apologetic Biden administration" and "racist terror ('pay-for-slay')" dismiss policy critiques without evidence, using inflammatory rhetoric to imply moral corruption. Similarly, unsubstantiated claims of "rise in gay bashing by Muslim migrants" (citing Rebel Media, a partisan source) stereotype an entire group without addressing socioeconomic factors or counter-data on declining hate crimes in Europe.Appeal to Authority (Selective)Relying on authorities whose expertise is tangential or biased toward the conclusion.Quotes from conservative Christian sources (e.g., Got Questions Ministries, The Master's Seminary) on theology, or pathologists like Bernard Knight on "most violent homicides...among male homosexuals," are presented as definitive. These authorities align with Conservapedia's worldview but aren't balanced against opposing experts (e.g., sociologists on hate crime epidemiology), creating an echo chamber effect.

Now that Grok has clarified User:Conservative's understanding of conservativism to equate with antisemitism, it all makes sense. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 23:18, October 12, 2025 (EDT)