Talk:Concession of people on the right to the Biden junta

Rename Request

We should rename the page. --United States (talk) 14:42, 3 December 2020 (EST)

I don't have authority to move (rename) pages, but out of curiosity what would you rename it to? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 14:52, 3 December 2020 (EST)

I guess I know how to rename the page, but what name do you recommend me? --United States (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2020 (EST)

Well, I'm perfectly fine with the current name, actually, and I'm kind of wondering why you're advocating renaming it. Is there a different name that you think would be better? Are you thinking it should be shorter? Do you not want quotes in the title? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 15:15, 3 December 2020 (EST)

I think the title is quite too long. --United States (talk) 15:16, 3 December 2020 (EST)

Okay. As a more concise title, how about "Pseudo-conservatives' 2020 concession of electoral defeat to Joe Biden"? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2020 (EST)

I've moved it along with the edit history. If you want a page moved, you can add{{move|New page name}} to the top of the page, and it will be tagged for admins to move it. Thanks! --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 16:50, 3 December 2020 (EST)

Is this page now just some trolling attempt?

The title is "Pseudo-conservatives' 2020 concession to the Biden junta". Thus, people will think that the people listed are phony conservatives. Just because Tom Cotton has some neocon leanings and bucks Trump in this important moment does not simply invalidate his record for years as a strong conservative and nationalist. I suspect some users here on CP to have a separate agenda of their own and aren't actually editing in our best interest. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:47, 5 January 2021 (EST)

There's no need to question my or other CP editors' conservatism (I created the page and have added most of the content including the bit about Tom Cotton; User:RobS moved it to this specific title; and User:United States didn't like the original title (see above discussion) which is why "Pseudo-conservatives" is even in the title). Please don't accuse me of "trolling"; this is my second-largest article, so obviously I've worked very hard on it. The intent isn't to castigate everyone on here as "pseudo-conservative," but bending the knee and conceding this election is a pseudo-conservative thing to do. Obviously I don't think Mike Cernovich is a pseudo-conservative and neither does Brandon Straka. The point is that any "conservative" who at this crucial moment joins the establishment mob thus stabbing us all in the back should be remembered as a weakling. We have to keep in mind that they did this. It's not like I didn't say that Cotton supported setting up a commission to investigate election irregularities, because I did say that. Maybe hereafter he just shouldn't be regarded as an asset. Justin Amash was considered an asset back in the Tea Party days, and look what happened there. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:29, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Anybody can go off the rails. What are conservatives going to do when Trump in retirement starts playing golf with Obama and Baby Bush? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:36, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Yeah, RobSmith moved it to this title earlier, but you decided to include Cotton in the list as the title currently is. That would be to insinuate (at least from a likely straight-foward view by readers) that Cotton's current stance would invalidate his voting record for years. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 01:34, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Some on the list shouldn't even need explanation as being "pseudo-conservatives", given that our readers understand at least some basics of U.S. politics. It's pretty obvious that Govs. Hogan, Scott, and Baker aren't conservative. Why else would they be in those positions for deep blue states? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:50, 5 January 2021 (EST)

How can you simultaneously criticize me for including true conservatives on the list AND say that people should just know that the pseudo-conservatives are pseudo-conservatives because, well, obviously. Do you just hate the phrase "pseudo-conservative"? I'm starting to think you're the one who's trolling. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:29, 5 January 2021 (EST)

If you're to include the RINO blue state governors in the "pseudo-conservatives" list, one would assume that they might be mistaken for true conservatives, which they aren't. All these separate categories are put into one "pseudo-conservatives" label based on this one important issue, which isn't helpful. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 01:37, 5 January 2021 (EST)

The page could be retitled Conservative concessions etc or something else. We have a similar list of Senators on the Objectors page. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:22, 5 January 2021 (EST)

How about, Conservative cowards who failed to confront the Marxist Revolution? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:24, 5 January 2021 (EST)

I like RobS's proposed title. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:29, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Fair point, as the page title can be moved to something more fitting, but I suspect BernieandTrumpFan at this point to possibly be a parodist, especially given this previous discussion affirming my current point. And he made these edits with the current title as is without beforehand requesting it be moved so that it perhaps would fit more accurately.

And about what to possibly rename this page, if that's the plan, such might be best evaluated with a somewhat more extensive discussion. Perhaps we can simply have a separate section for now saying "Other individuals" or something. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 01:30, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Remember, everytime you point a finger, there four pointing back at you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:38, 5 January 2021 (EST)

I'm not a parodist for goodness' sakes, I'm just young and passionate. I'm a parodist...because I don't like Marco Rubio? Come on, please don't insinuate that I'm just some kind of troll. I don't care what the title is, I just don't like my work being insulted or my conservatism questioned. If people bend the knee now, what does that say about them? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:41, 5 January 2021 (EST)