Talk:Assassination attempts on Trump
We need a good picture of Trump fist pumping. Anybody got any? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There
- Tried to upload one, but the site doesn't like when you upload photos you didn't personally take SingleChristian1 (talk) 15:26, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
Contents
- 1 A bona fide video recording of the assassin?
- 2 Vilification of Trump
- 3 Take a look at today's front pages
- 4 Donor class
- 5 Secret Service
- 6 Big question
- 7 Censorship
- 8 FBI at hearing 30 July
- 9 Police vs SS
- 10 Conspiracies
- 11 Now promoting crazy conspiracy theories too on anti Iran-war shooter?
- 12 References
- 13 Sick libs. Cheer 3rd attempted assassination
- 14 More about shooter: Torrance church's Cole Allen of Christian student fellowship
A bona fide video recording of the assassin?
- Who Was Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20-Year-Old Shooter Accused Of Assassination Attempt On Donald Trump, Republic TV
A bona fide video recording of the assassin? Or is it a fake?
Republic TV is India's no.1 English news channel since its launch. Conservative (talk) 05:29, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Twitter has a wider camera angle of the recorder: Thomas Matthew Crooks says you got the wrong guy. Will post the real guy. Conservative (talk) 05:33, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- "According to NBC: "Pennsylvania voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks with the same address and birth date as a registered Republican, though it was not clear from the records when that was put in place. Federal Election Commission donor data also listed a Thomas Crooks of Pennsylvania as having $15 to ActBlue, a political action committee that backs Democrats, in June 2021."[1] Conservative (talk) 05:40, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh good. You want to handle all this? I got some catching up to do in the foreign policy realm. Remember, the farther away you get from the event in time, the more difficult it is to resolve. Also, believe it or not, there are other editors available to help with researching and writing. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:31, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- The above video appears to be a prank: Who Shot Donald Trump? Everything We Know About the Shooter.
- Oh good. You want to handle all this? I got some catching up to do in the foreign policy realm. Remember, the farther away you get from the event in time, the more difficult it is to resolve. Also, believe it or not, there are other editors available to help with researching and writing. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:31, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- I am not researching this further. Conservative (talk) 14:53, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Let the record show you have refused collaboration once again. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:57, July 16, 2024 (EDT)
Vilification of Trump
Suggested: a compilation of such as this example.Telling (talk) 15:08, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
Take a look at today's front pages
Take a look at today's front pages:
UK: https://www.frontpages.com/uk-newspapers/
Most interesting is downunder: https://www.frontpages.com/australia-newspapers/ (See screenshot).
Deutschland : https://www.frontpages.com/germany-newspapers/ Telling (talk)
Donor class
Gotta love that term. They've gone from being greedy capitalists and exploiters to the donor class. Makes em sound like financial backers of the Salvation Army. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There
Secret Service
You can see where this is all heading already. Never mind the obvious in front of you own eyes. Rather than being investigated for the attempt to kill Trump, it will result in a bigger budget and more funding for the Secret Service due to "lack of resources". Just like how the Capitol Police got a $2 billion bonus to open offices in 50 states and 435 Congressional districts (and get drone technology) after J6 (oh yah, and the Capital Police are exempt from normal oversight and FOIA cause they are in the legislative branch, not the executive branch). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:26, July 17, 2024 (EDT)
- The secret lowdown on Trump's inept Secret Service agent. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:22, July 21, 2024 (EDT)
- Deep State proxy Lindsey Graham first question out of the box: "Do you need more money?" RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:40, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
On August 23, 2024, it was reported that "Multiple Secret Service agents put on leave. [1]
- ↑ Multiple Secret Service agents put on leave following Trump assassination attempt Fox News August 23, 2024
Big question
- Did Crooks expect to survive, or was he on a suicide mission? Did he have a planned escape route? Or was he, as is often said of young people, not afraid of mortality? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:03, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
- IMHO, A.Dianne3000 (talk)
- It could also be, he didn't think everything through.Telling (talk)
- I'm somewhat of that mind, too. He evidently trained with FBI snipers, and was under the impression they had his back. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:34, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- If you think about what happened to Oswald, how could Crooks think he would survive? But he must have. If he survived, he could expect money from the Iranians. As I have I have said before, Trump needs to drop out. The Deep State has made up its mind. Trump is not going to be president again. PeterKa (talk) 10:34, August 23, 2024 (EDT)
- I'm somewhat of that mind, too. He evidently trained with FBI snipers, and was under the impression they had his back. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:34, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- It could also be, he didn't think everything through.Telling (talk)
Censorship
Now that it has been reported that Google is memory-holing the shooting, it is important that we round out, complete, and keep updated this entry as one of the internet's few original primary sources. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:20, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
FBI at hearing 30 July
"There were over 700 comments posted from this account," Abbate said. "Some of these comments appear to reflect antisemitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence and are described as extreme in nature." US Secret Service acting director 'ashamed' about Trump shooting. So this guy is again a nut. Trying to halt Trump who is tough on immigration... Dianne3000 (talk)
- This is a questionable claim. It took 10 days to say he had a Gab account with 9 postings, now more than 2 weeks to make this claim. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:54, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Yup. At least they didn't say they are 100% sure that this account is definitely his.Dianne3000 (talk) 13:28, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- In Marsha Blackburn's questioning, much of the alleged posts happened when Crooks was 14 years old. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:37, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- What do you make of this? "Antisemitic White Nationalist Social Media CEO, Claims That Gunman Thomas Crooks, Failed Trump Assassin, May Have Had Account, And That Authorities Issued Emergency Disclosure Request; Exploits Opportunity To Fundraise For Future Legal Costs."[2]Telling (talk) 13:57, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- In Marsha Blackburn's questioning, much of the alleged posts happened when Crooks was 14 years old. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:37, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- That's a reference to Andrew Torba & Gab, and Crooks alleged 9 posts in support of Biden in 2021. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:13, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- As to Torba being an anti-Semite, it's either that or the guy is just a plain idiot (probably more of the later). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:15, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I didn't know it was referring to this guy. I just googled up this idiot this came up.Telling (talk)
- I've tried to read Torba's response to what the ADL says about him. He's the kind of Christian who gives fundamentalists a bad name. That was the first and last time I visited Gab. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:44, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Here's the FBI Emergency Request. I think it's up on MPR but not in the article yet. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:07, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I didn't know it was referring to this guy. I just googled up this idiot this came up.Telling (talk)
Police vs SS
New clip.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:46, August 8, 2024 (EDT)
Conspiracies
New DNA analysis of Hitler finds no Jewish ancestry, but suggests something else. Groundbreaking analysis of Hitler’s DNA shows no Jewish ancestry - but finds a genetic disorder. Philissa Cramer, JTA. Nov 13, 2025. [3]Telling (talk) 06:23, April 28, 2026 (EDT)
There is a corner of the internet of people that want to point and blame the Jews for all their problems. Everybody, this is demonic and it's from the pit of hell and it should not be tolerated. Period. - Charlie Kirk.
[4] [5]
Dianne3000 (talk) 16:15, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
What a genius. Some racists online concluded" that the shirt is "full idf gear." LOL. Telling (talk) 06:15, April 28, 2026 (EDT)
Now promoting crazy conspiracy theories too on anti Iran-war shooter?
1. He has maybe a "Jewish" connection.
NEXT:
2. Mabye ethnic only 75% non Jew?
NEXT:
3. All Jews are IDF. Even the Arab soldiers are all "Jewish."
NEXT 4. He is mot Jewish but, years ago, he once bought shirts, one shirt had an IDF logo. (OMG!!! OMG OMG!)
5. His neighbour's brother-in-law's friend speaks some Hebrew, maybe.
Blah blah.Telling (talk) 14:04, April 26, 2026 (EDT) “I hate to say I’m honored,” the president says of his repeated brushes with violence.[1]
The gunman Cole Allen sent anti-Trump manifesto, said he wanted to take out Trump officials.[2]Telling (talk)
References
- ↑ Trump says he sees shootings as a reflection of his impact. WaPo, April 26, 2026
- ↑ WHCD gunman Cole Allen sent anti-Trump manifesto, said he wanted to take out Trump officials: ‘The Friendly Federal Assassin’. By Steven Nelson and Chris Nesi, NY Post, April 26, 2026
Sick libs. Cheer 3rd attempted assassination
Wisconsin Brewery Offers Free Beer to Celebrate Trump Assassination, Ignites Nationwide Backlash [6]. How low.LaMarina (talk) 15:21, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
- William Spaniel: Why the Presumed Trump Assassination Attempt Will Not Improve His Polling Numbers. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 15:33, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
- Only yad a chance seeing clip description, not watching the clip itself.
It says:
'Media licensed under CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommon... By Khamenei.ir: https://farsi.khamenei... By Kremlin.ru: http://kremlin.ru/even... http://kremlin.ru/even...)
Hence. Pro Islamic regime???
Dianne3000 (talk) 15:56, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
- I dunno; Spaniel has been a neo-Nazi groupie since the Ukraine war started. It's how he built his 700,000 following. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 18:28, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
- I see.Dianne3000 (talk) 21:56, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
- Maybe it's better to use less fringe "sources" - rushing to post theories about a Christian Cole Allen speculating about his DNA Eugenics, before information comes out. LaMarina (talk) 06:00, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
- "Tone Down the Rhetoric!" Say US Officials Who Want to Destroy All of Iranian Civilization. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 14:39, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
- That Trump's outburst tweet doesn't have ANY logic, though we don't believe he really meant it.Dianne3000 (talk) 16:16, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
- I can agree with that, but it was pretty stupid, and damaging to US interests. And Trump's legacy. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 16:35, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
- Maybe it's better to use less fringe "sources" - rushing to post theories about a Christian Cole Allen speculating about his DNA Eugenics, before information comes out. LaMarina (talk) 06:00, April 27, 2026 (EDT)
- I see.Dianne3000 (talk) 21:56, April 26, 2026 (EDT)
More about shooter: Torrance church's Cole Allen of Christian student fellowship
| “ | Accused attacker at Washington media dinner is a tutor and computer engineer from California...
He earned a bachelor’s degree in 2017 in mechanical engineering from the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, according to his profile on the social networking site LinkedIn. The small university is academically prestigious with a very low acceptance rate. He also listed his involvement there in a campus group that battled with Nerf guns and a Christian student fellowship. The suspect’s father, Thomas Allen, is listed as an elder at Grace United Reformed Church Torrance. The webpage for the congregation describes it as a “Bible-believing church” following the “infallible Word of God.” Security guards posted at the sanctuary during worship services on Sunday escorted parishioners to the door and kept reporters at bay. (AP, 4.26.26. [7] |
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| “ | The writings, sent shortly before shots were fired Saturday night at the Washington Hilton, made repeated references to President Donald Trump without naming him directly and alluded to grievances over a range of administration actions, including U.S. strikes on boats accused of smuggling drugs in the eastern Pacific Ocean
(PBS, 4.26.26 [8]) |
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| “ | Cole Allen reportedly belonged to the far-left group "The Wide Awakes" and attended "No Kings" protests in California. His rhetoric in his manifesto is all too familiar among politicians and pundits who are fueling the rage...
(Jonathan Turley @JonathanTurley: [9]) |
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