Talk:Essay: A new conservative age is rising

Maybe somebody was right about these essays

First off, "right-wing populism" is a misnomer—the actual policies are more Communist than they are conservative. Working-class populism, rampant activism for government-spearheaded natalism, anti–big business sentiment, populist nationalism? All hallmarks of the Soviet Union and probably every other Communist regime, and the same defining characteristics of modern-day "right-wing populists."

Secondly, the political reality functions under a thesis/antithesis deception game. The devil first brings the left to power to let its evils go on full display, and uses the resulting backlash to bring the "right" to power that will install the final Antichrist beast system. The beast will enforce false worship, which indicates a highly theocratic nature—sound familiar? Wake up! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:30, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

rebuttal

A few points:

1) A country/community with social conservatism is a healthier society and a less dysfunctional one (less crime, lower divorce rates, less single-parent homes, less homosexuality/transexuality promoting, etc.).

2) There is nothing wrong with making the USA more manufacturing job-friendly (Removing unnecessary regulations; fossil fuel energy friendly which lowers fuel costs, etc.). This is not only good for working-class citizens. It is good for the USA.

3) Corporations have brought back more than $1 trillion of overseas profits to the U.S. since Congress overhauled the international tax system and prodded companies to repatriate offshore funds. It was the populist Trump who made it easy for big companies and other companies to repatriate this money and not get hit with a huge tax bill. The USA moving manufacturing jobs back to the USA due to this matter was good for working-class Americans and good for America.

4) There is nothing wrong with giving families generous tax credits for having a child. Raising the fertility rate of the USA will create new jobs and strengthen society's ability to support the elderly.

5) Small businesses can be a huge driver of economic growth. According to the SBA, small businesses created a net 12.9 million new jobs in the last 25 years, which accounts for roughly 66% of all jobs.[1]

Which Country Is Best to Start a Small Business in? The United States is ranked #6 and could do better. The USA should make it easier for small businesses to compete against big businesses and that starts with causing more small businesses to form in the first place.

The government should not allow big businesses' lobbyists to get regulators to set up nonsensical regulations to create artificial barriers for small businesses' entry into an industry. The government should make it harder for regulators to set up nonsensical regulations. Conservative (talk) 05:22, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

response

1. Yes, social conservatism is objectively preferable to moral degeneracy, though one needs to understand how it goes both ways: in a moral society, social conservatism is a necessary bulwark to hold together basic standards, while an immoral society can utilize it to hold together and fuel a sinister system.
2. More job-friendly? That in of itself has nothing wrong, though how it is portrayed and what agenda it serves matters. Both "right-wing populists" and old-school Communists are working-class populist agitators, left-wing nationalists (as opposed to right-wing "bourgeois" nationalism), and nativists who think that the "outsiders" don't belong.
3. On the issue of free trade vs. protectionism, fitting that into a left–right framework is tricky in objective terms because of how the very political spectrum changed in the late 1960s–80s; protectionism was once associated with the politics of right-wing "standpat" Republicans, though rejected by the eventual "New Right." However, even in the old days, protectionism wasn't necessarily right-wing—it was conservative when used to benefit the big business interests, and left-wing when a part of socialist, populistic working-class sentiments. The Liberal Republican Party nominee of 1872, Horace Greeley, was strongly protectionist, yet also a socialist. Conclusion: Trump's protectionism, fitting a framework of working-class populism, actually represents old-school left-wing ideals from a historically grounded perspective.
4. Decisions by couples on how many children they desire to have are their private decisions the government has no business intruding upon. A child should not be conceived and born simply because their parents were goaded by a central state into seeking an extra welfare benefit—Conservative, your implied argument that "the ends justify the means," in this case being that a high fertility rate is so important that it justifies government welfare, is a brainchild of Machiavellianism, which you hypocritically reproved RobSmith for adhering to.
5. Yes, small businesses are a crucial backbone of the United States economy. That doesn't justify "right-wing populism."
6. As for the rhetoric that the evil industrial business elites are controlling the government through cronyism, that is old-school Jeffersonian and Jacksonian rhetoric. In those days, the Jeffersonians and Jacksonians were the left-wing populists, while the Federalists they denounced as industrial cronyists were the classical conservatives. The fact that "right-wing populists" view Andrew Jackson, the founder of the Democratic Party, as an ideological forefather, is very, very telling.

—LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 14:48, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Tax cuts for couples having children is not a "welfare benefit". And the state comes out ahead because the couples are creating more taxpayers and also making the pension system stronger. Conservative (talk) 15:01, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Right-wing populism is not going away. It is being fueled by the growth of Islam in Europe. Your opposition to it reminds me of the character of Don Quixote because you will not be able to defeat right-wing populism.

To fight, the invincible foe. This is my quest...Conservative (talk) 15:08, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Well said. We all watch your quixotic jousting at windmills daily. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:12, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Conservative, welfare is welfare—a natalist incentive check may be for a different purpose, but it's every bit a government payoff to citizens as a food stamp for the poor is. The pension system, by the way, appears to be highly corrupt and drains taxpayer dollars. As a matter of fact, the entire civil service system is worthy of being abolished, ideally speaking.

Yes, you're absolutely right that "right-wing populism" won't go away. That's because those movements are a tool of the devil to create the final Antichrist beast system, seeing that those very "national populists" are calling for governments to mandate "Christian morality." Of course, since their concept of Christianity is the standard paganized apostate variety, this means a core decree will be Sunday laws... which will culminate as the mark of the beast. Be careful of what you support, because you don't want to find yourself on the wrong side at Final Judgment! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 15:27, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Tax cuts are not incentive checks. And Americans are taxed too much. Conservative (talk) 15:30, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, tax cuts are not incentive checks since they serve as reductions of government-sponsored robbery, though selective government payoffs to incentivize higher birthrates are intrusive, liberal-minded in approach (conservatives believe in individual action from the bottom-up; liberals believe in government action from the top-down), and practically no different than how welfare works. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 15:33, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

"Tax cuts are not incentive checks." I wish somebody would have told that to Ronald Reagan before he cut taxes to destroy the Great Society welfare programs. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:18, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Turley

It was fun while it lasted - until User:Conservative started promoting globalism.

It looks like Turley has abandoned User:Conservative, or User:Conservative abandoned Turley. I'm not sure which. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:52, April 24, 2024 (EDT)

Looks like Turley's in big trouble. User:Conservative's globalist spiritual mentors at Big Tech want to shut him down. It's Time To EXPOSE What Google Has Been Doing to Us!!! RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:09, April 24, 2024 (EDT)

Your cheerleading has gone pale. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:21, December 5, 2024 (EST)