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Why this Essay?

I wrote the essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]

I give 4 major reasons why this happened.

Can anyone think of any other major reasons? Conservative (talk) 13:42, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Out of ideas already, huh? 12,000 bytes of spam will only get you so far. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:08, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Here's an idea: demonic possession and the Dark Triad personality traits is why multipolar fantasies failed.
Better yet: [[Essay: Demonic possession and the Dark Triad personality traits will cause self-appointed geopolitics experts to miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy]]. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:12, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Here's an idea: "Neocon neo-Nazi warmonger David Brooks wrote, The American Renaissance Is Already at Hand is evidence the multipolar fantasy has failed." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:19, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

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Here's the problem as I see it: If you had actually read Samuel Huntington's 1996 book, Clash of Civilizations, you wouldn't have denied on April 17, 2022 that civilization had reached a turning point. But you didn't read the book and form any ideas or opinions of your own. Instead, you came up with Huntington by Googling for a few words and phrases to cherry pick a couple of lines for one of your Islamophobic screeds, and to make it sound scholarly, authorative, and researched. And you've never stopped. That's your style. And the more you do it, the more it becomes obvious.

It's simply easier to not pretend, keep your nose out of where it does not belong, and admit when you made an error, rather than spend 18 months writing 2 dozen Essays of pure nonsense and crap. "Yah, but Rob, I get page views". Congratulations. I hope you're proud of being deceptive and misleading conservative students. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:38, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

My reply: [[Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in geopolitics that will affect geopolitics for 30 years]]. Conservative (talk) 19:16, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Lol. User:Conservative: The damage is done. You already declared yourself an expert in the Haushofer school. [4] You never listen when I try to extend you advice.
The etylmology of words certainly has its place. But it's ridiculous to expect someone to know the etymology of all the words they speak. Also, words have different meanings and also change over time.
More importantly, the Meriam Webster dictionary defines geopolitics as "a study of the influence of such factors as geography, economics, and demography on the politics and especially the foreign policy of a state."[5] So I didn't think the essay had the right title so I replaced the word "geopolitics" with international relations. Conservative (talk) 01:24, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, you would think someone so studied and expert in the field of geopolitics and international relations would have some clue what they were talking and writing about, especially after watching 90 minutes of a Mearsheimer video. I guess not. I guess you simply hadn't a clue, when for some reason you felt compelled to contradict me in April 2022. You should have just left it at that. But the man-child in you felt obsessed to go on an 18 month jihad against another person simply cause you opened your mouth when you should have just let it go and kept it shut.
Now you're on record for duplicity of your actions, and you can't live down being a self-declared expert of the Haushofer school of realism, not until you delete all the rot you have written over the past 18 months and step back and away from a field you have no interest or understanding about. It's Charlatans such as yourself who have given the field of international relations a bad reputation for more than a century, and have caused so much devastation and destruction.
Remember, your mentors and spirit guides like Haushofer and Brzezinski deserved to be in the docket at Nuremberg, if you wish to continue playing this stupid game with me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:43, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Your stuff I wouldn't rate as high as Haushofer; it's more of the caliber of Goebbels or Julius Streicher for the general masses and a less educated audience. So just keep it up. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:51, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
I have never said I was an expert in international relations. Having greater insight than you on various international relations topics is certainly not a herculean feat.
Furthermore, Mearsheimer is not the end all and be all of scholars/experts in international relations although he makes some legitimate points.
In addition, you are hardly in a position to compare me to Goebbels given your intentionally misleading/false statements in the [[Bill Browder]] and [[Karen Dawisha]] articles that I called you out on as far as the talk pages of those articles.
And as far as your charge of "spirit guides", you are the person who used the crank Caitlin Johnstone to defend China at [[Talk:Essay: The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China]]. She wrote a book on astrology called The Complete Book Of Astrology: Your personal guide to learning, understanding and using Astrology. Conservative (talk) 02:42, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

I would also point out that disagreeing with you on various matters is not a jihad or some kind of unpardonable sin. People disagree with me all the time and I certainly don't get upset about it. That is a reasonable attitude to have. The someone disagrees with me on the internet approach is a very unreasonable attitude to have.

Stephen Kotkin, who is a very knowledgeable historian, agrees with me that the world is not multipolar and the notion that it is multipolar is a lot of nonsense.

I also cite: "We are not in a multipolar world." - International Relations and Security Analyst Mark Sleboda on Brian Berlectic's pro-Russia New Atlas YouTube channel.[6]

Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video Why China's Navy is a JOKE: "China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that." Conservative (talk) 03:00, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) No, I don't go out there trash talking whole societies, peoples, and cultures as is wont to be your habit for a long time.

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Deny that the Chinese ate gutter oil made from ingredients from processed sewage and lose all credibility.

Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[7]

In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, "Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil."[8] Conservative (talk) 13:45, October 19, 2023 (EDT) LIt is true that I have made criticisms of various countries. But given your obsessive criticism of Ukraine, you are hardly in a position to complain. Also, I have complimented various countries as well for various things they have done or do such as Switzerland, Singapore, Finland and the Philippines. Conservative (talk) 03:23, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

I don't spend 15 hours a day for a year and half trying to get even with some stranger I met online, either.
And I don't think you understand what a spirit guide is, anymore than you understand anything about geopolitics or international relations, although in your obsession with trolling strangers you meet online you have allowed certain spirits (like Sun Tzu or Haushofer) to guide you.
When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:04, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

First of all, you are the one who let power go to your head and then started treating Conservapedia editors badly (That is why only one person signed up for your Team CP). So you are hardly in a position to complain about someone attempting to get even. Also, someone merely disagreeing with you is not someone getting even with you. Conservative (talk) 03:14, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Well, I think you treated all of China, Russia, the atheist population of the planet, and your fellow Conservapedians badly for a long time. I think you treated me badly, and lied and made things up about me the first time I was desysoped. But I can forgive. It's your obstinacy now (besides your racism aqnd prejudice) that bothers me - especially since you claim to be a conservative Christian Republican. Is that what a conservative Republican is - a petty, vindictive, pretentious and obsessive little bigot? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:24, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

I have frequently said you have an obsession with the issue of racism.

Also, I have had excellent relations with Chinese people in my life and I volunteered for a Christian ministry that largely focused on ministering to Chinese students. In addition, I dated a lovely Chinese lady that my Taiwanese friend introduced me to. I also treat Ukrainians nicer than you and dated a lovely Ukrainian lady. And I have an excellent business relationship and friendly relationship with a very influential atheist/agnostic in the USA (And this person knows about my atheism articles on the internet). And I think User: ConwayIII, who I believe is a UK atheist, has a higher opinion of me than he has of you. Furthermore, the UK agnostic User: Mercian and I have a cordial relationship (via email) and he also has a higher opinion of me than he has of you. Conservative (talk) 03:37, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, I do have an obsession with racism - I don't like being associated with racists. Birds of a feather, as they say.
Your racist writings speak for themselves. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:41, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
I will also point out that I felt sorry for an old Russian lady who was down on her luck and I let her stay at my residence for a few weeks. Nobody believes that I am a racist - except for you. And to be frank, I am not sure how sincere your allegation of my supposed racism is. Conservative (talk) 03:45, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Am I my brother's keeper? Yes. Is it my job to cover your sin? That's between you and Jesus. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:48, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Just because you ardently embrace corrupt and authoritarian regimes (namely Russia and China) and I make legitimate criticisms of those countries, that certainly doesn't make me a racist. Conservative (talk) 03:51, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. By 2035, I expect you to get out of your denial/anger stage of my legitimate criticisms of Russia/China and be at least at the bargaining stage. And if you live long enough, you may even accept what I wrote. Conservative (talk) 03:55, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Look, you spent the last couple of hours trying to cover up your racist crap. Just look at Recent Changes and the Deletion Log. Just Delete it all and be done with it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:54, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
By 2035, you may be closer to Douglas Macgregor and I's views on the state of China. I certainly hope so, but if not, I am not going to be angry about it. Conservative (talk) 03:58, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
We live in hard times, not unlike World War II or just before. You & LT seem to think this is normal, and all the problems will just go away after the next commercial. They won't. Tough decisions have to be made. Tough decisions that we all have to live with for the next 30 years. Are you working to put us back on the road to reconciliation, like the Germans and the Jews have experienced after 1945? or the Germans and the Russians enjoyed until the neocon globalists and fascists created the present state of affairs? What are you doing to promote healing and a better world? Or are you piling on hate and animosity between people? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:04, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
When Russia intervened in Feb 2022, I went online with ordinary Russian people and others from around the world and apologized for what America had done, and told them how ashamed I was of my country for its actions and behavior. And they said, "Don't worry, no problem. We understand. We've been through the same thing ourselves a few times." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:13, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Americans don't live in hard times. Even people on welfare, have cable TV and air conditioning in many cases. When you compare America's prosperity with many nations and with the history of mankind, we live in an age of comfort. And Americans have a wealth of information to educate themselves via public libraries. The famous author and salesperson/businessman Og Mandino literally transformed himself from being a drunk and a depressed bum to a life of prosperity via materials he read in a public library. Conservative (talk) 04:27, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Ive been watching this film that was posted on YouTube a few days ago. It was made in 1989 - two years before the demise of the Soviet Union - when nobody involved in making the film knew the Soviet Union would cease to exist in 2 years. It stars the American actor Powers Booth, then at the peak of his career, as the hero of Stalingrad. So in this piece of communist agitprop, you can see the respect for Americans and hope for the future the Russian people had in the final days of the Soviet Union. Can you imagine Tom Cruise or Harrison Ford today being invited to play the lead role of a great Russian hero in a Russian film today? after all the lies and betrayal of trust by our government over the past 30 years? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:26, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Most of Russia's problems are self-imposed. Nations are often like people in that people's worse enemies are often themselves. Nobody forced the Russians to have a godless revolution or to make the other bad decisions that they have made over the years. Conservative (talk) 04:31, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
"Not one inch" - and we lied. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:39, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
Right here is your racism and bigotry - "Nobody forced the Russians to have a godless revolution" - the Russian people were the biggest victims of godless communism - and you're giving away, once again, the fact that you have not read Alexander Solzhenitsyn and that you lied to me when you claimed that you did. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:43, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
What do you call gay marriage? A God-ordained revolution? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:46, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Your cry of racism and bigotry against me is because your errant, rose-colored views of Russia/China have been debunked via some facts that I have brought out. Your incessant cries of racism and bigotry are as credible as the ceaseless Democrats' cries of racism and bigotry. It's just a lame attempt at discrediting and a sign of cognitive dissonance on your part.

I will also remind you of this: [[Essay: The anti-Christianity Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and Xi Jinping have opposed homosexuality so this isn't a very high moral bar for China and Russia to clear]]. Furthermore, there are a lot of commandments in the Bible and both China and Russia could use some improvement in those areas.

At the end of the day, Jesus said that you shall know them by their fruits. And your attempt to suppress civil discussion about China/Russia via "hide templates" and the denigration of other editors including myself is partly what caused my essays about international politics and related matters. In addition, I have a healthy amount of curiosity and I did some investigation as far as an: East/West cultural comparison, economics of various countries; and Russian/Chinese/USA/Western societies.

We could have had a civil discussion of Russia/China on main page talk and in the community portal. Unfortunately, you chose another path. While I did desire to focus on areas outside of world politics in terms of my time, at least I learned some additional things about international relations, the USA, the East/West cultures, Russia, China and India.

And some of this information that I uncovered may be personally profitable to me. For example, I believe that India is going to benefit in some ways due to China being less competitive in the future. And so I am considering purchasing undervalued Indian stocks with long-term growth potential. In addition, my appreciation for some of the good things about the USA/West such as capitalism has inspired me to better take advantage of them via various endeavors and other opportunities.

With the above being said, best wishes to you in future endeavors and I hope you incorporate some of the feedback you have received from various Conservapedia editors concerning your behavior at Conservapedia. Life is a learning experience and it is helpful to learn from the feedback of others. I know I have profited from Conservapedia in some ways via the friendships I have formed and the feedback/information I have received from fellow Conservapedians.

In the meantime, let's see what unfolds in the 2020s/2030s and beyond should Jesus tarry. Conservative (talk) 11:23, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

I just added this information to the article: "Question: Did you know that is very doable to be a better forecaster in terms of politics, economics and other future events? There is a great book on this matter by the political science writer and political science professor Philip E. Tetlock entitled Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction which has some fascinating information based on the reviews and videos I watched concerning this matter. And the book has received a lot of positive reviews by various people involved in forecasting.
I added this information to my personal resource at User:Conservative/Forecasting.
As a result of our recent interactions, I discovered this book and I hope it makes me a better forecaster relative to my various endeavors including investing. I plan on purchasing this book. Conservative (talk) 12:21, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Feedback

Looks alright to me, Ben. I'd add that it's mostly a product of political extremes: both far-left and far-right actors have their own reasons for promoting a weaker, more fractured international order and more chaos generally.

In terms of how people can so readily ignore so much evidence to the contrary, you should probably have a section on the interplay between motivated reasoning and the Dunning-Kruger effect. ConwayIII (talk) 18:33, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

China’s new satellites extend its military reach, US says. Dem third worlders gettin' a bit uppidy. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:41, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
The Dunning-Kruger effect especially affects those who don't actively question and try to falsify their ideas. In other words, they do not practice critical thinking.
Below are some great resources on how political experts and other experts who actively try to falsify their notions/theories achieve superior results and it is based on a significant body of research:
OMG. I'm talking to a Trent Toulouse clone now. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:53, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Take heart, my man. The D-K effect is what allows you to sincerely imagine yourself as a historian and scholar of note. ConwayIII (talk) 18:58, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Not of note. I'm just a chronicler writing a diary. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:59, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
Great stuff. The Chronicles of Captain Cauldron: Gentleman & Diarist ConwayIII (talk) 19:14, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

ConwayIII, read [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_did_so_many_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_miserably_fail_concerning_their_multipolar_fantasy%3F#A_major_ego-deflating_bonanza_of_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_is_going_to_occur._It_will_be_a_popping_of_their_huge_egos_of_biblical_proportions.21 THIS].

I am looking forward to the year 2030. Watch the irrational rationalizations of Captain Cauldron then. Conservative (talk) 19:25, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Haven't you been forecasting the poop hitting the fan in the US of Great Depression proportions in 2030 for some time now? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:22, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
President Trump says “we’re probably heading into a Great Depression now.” RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:12, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, I have said that the USA may have a Great Depression 2.0 in 2030 or the 2030s. But I also said that the USA has a history of bouncing back from difficulties. Furthermore, the issue of multipolarity involves relative strengths and I am assuming that is the USA experiences an economic recession it very well may be a global depression given the size of the USA economy and given the economic problems that I expect China to have during the 2030s. Conservative (talk) 03:06, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Geopolitics

Doo-Doo Alert!

User:Conservative proudly has a series he labels: User:Conservative Essays: Geopolitics. Let's see how studied and knowledgeable he is to lay claim to use of that term. Using 2 articles from Wikipedia (yes, as a member of WP's Copy Editor's Guild I found a glaring error in one article, but that section won't be cited here), I will produce a simple narrative,

Haushofer ... specialty was to combine the fields of geography, history, economics, demography, political science, and anthropology into a new discipline that came to be called Geopolitik.
Geopolitik is a branch of 19th-century German statecraft, foreign policy and geostrategy. It developed from the writings of various German philosophers, geographers and thinkers, including Oswald Spengler (1880-1936), Alexander Humboldt (1769-1859), Karl Ritter (1779-1859), Friedrich Ratzel (1844-1904), the Swede Rudolf Kjellén (1864-1922), and Karl Haushofer (1869-1946).

So obviously Haushofer coined the term.

Haushofer was informally interrogated by Fr. Edmund A. Walsh on behalf of Nuremberg Trials prosecutor Robert H. Jackson to determine whether Haushofer should also stand trial. Fr. Walsh ultimately reported to Jackson that Haushofer was both legally and morally guilty of complicity in Nazi war crimes. Citing, "the role of geopolitics in corrupting education into a preparation for war", Walsh accused Haushofer and his associates of being, "basically as guilty as the better-known war criminals."[11] In his later memoir of the Nuremberg Trials, Walsh further alleged that, "The tragedy of Karl Haushofer", was his participation in the, "nationalizing", of academic scholarship and of turning Geopolitik into a weapon supplying, "an allegedly scientific basis and justification for international brigandage."[12]

But User:Conservative proudly wears the title of geopolitical expert.

Karl and Martha Haushofer died together in a suicide pact

Just like Adolf and Eva or Magda and Joseph Goebbels (romantic suicide pacts were all the rage in those days). But these are the people User:Conservative claims intellectual kinship or being an heir. Need I go on?

Haushofer visited Landsberg prison [in 1927] to teach and mentor both [Rudolph] Hess and Hitler.
Haushofer also coined the political use of the term Lebensraum, which Hitler also used to justify both crimes against peace and genocide.

But there is no indication User:Conservative is bothered by any of this in his Russophobic 'intellectual' pursuit.

in 1919, he forged a friendship with the young Rudolf Hess, who became his scientific assistant and later rose to be the deputy leader of the Nazi Party, second in authority only to Hitler. In 1919, Haushofer successfully defended his second dissertation, and became Privatdozent for political geography at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, and was made a professor in 1933

There was no such thing as "geopolitics" in 1933. Haushofer, Hess, and Hitler made it popular and successful. But User:Conservative is oblivious to facts or history. The Russians aren't. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:13, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

This is the No. 1 issue facing the planet right now, and we need to hear from our resident Geopolitical expert, whether MPR should be pro-Nazi or anti-Nazi, pro-global fascism or anti-global fascism. This is the purpose of talk/MPR. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:42, September 24, 2023 (EDT)
See, if our resident Geopolitical expert were a Cooperative Editor who didn't have his user page locked all the time or goes crying to Andy everytime someone tries to talk to him, he could have been warned about the big pile of doggie doo laying in the middle of the street he was walking into. But no, he has been more consumed with his Russophobic screeds the past year and a half. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:10, September 24, 2023 (EDT)
Now, one can argue that the priest who "informally" interrogated Haushofer broke the priest-penitent privilege recognized under the law, but that's neither here nor there, as far as our resident expert is concerned. He don't care. Why should he be troubled or concerned about such trivial things as facts?  :::RobSGive Peace a Chance!

Rereading Haushofer's WP bio today, there is all sorts of very interesting information there (I wish User:Geoplitican were here right now). For example,

Haushofer developed Geopolitik from widely varied sources, including the writings of Oswald Spengler, Alexander Humboldt, Karl Ritter, Friedrich Ratzel, Rudolf Kjellén, and Halford J. Mackinder

Mackinder makes a reappearance in our day today, driving the current US policy in Ukraine as outlined by User:Geopolitician in his article on Zbigniew Brzezinski's, The Grand Chessboard. User:Geo is the one who alerted me to this, cause I never paid much attention to anything coming from Brzezinski, the Truman Institute, or any other Democrat so-called "foreign policy" experts. I never even imagined they took themselves seriously, until now. While I recognized Brzezinski as a vehement Russophobe, I had no idea he held such power and influence over leftists and the CFR nearly 20 years after his disastrous tenure as National Security Advisor until User:Geo produced the factual evidence. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:52, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

The problem with this Essay...

The problem with this Essay, leaving aside whether or not multipolarity is "nonsense", is that it was created and structured as an attack page on living individuals.

We can reserve discussion on whether or not multipolarity is "nonsense" after this basic issue is resolved. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:17, April 7, 2024 (EDT)

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