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ohio gov race

Democrats are dropping big dollars in ohio to step the tide. This evening I saw an anti-Kasich tv ad every 20 minutes. They are running a failed campaign trying to pin Kasich as bad for ohio jobs. Strickland has lost over 400000 jobs since taking office. 4th highest taxes in the nation. Crappy@schools. Large deficits. Kasich against obamacare. Strickland for. No contest.--Jpatt 23:22, 1 September 2010 (EDT)

John Kasich is a true American patriot, one of the finest and honest Congressmen who has ever served. I know of at least two dozen people who are flying in to help election day, from all over the country, to turn out the vote, and I will be making calls for him. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 23:27, 1 September 2010 (EDT)
(edit conflict) Thanks for that interesting observation. Looks like Strickland must be powerful within the Democratic Party to get big bucks spent by Dems on trying to reelect him.--Andy Schlafly 23:29, 1 September 2010 (EDT)
Strickland and Lee Fischer for Senate, bigtime Democrat dollars rolling in. NRA endorses Strickland, he's been nothing but a friend to the NRA objectives such as conceal carry laws. It will not be enough. TK, what about Sharron Angle? NRA playing games then a couple days before election endorse her? I heard the NRA gave $5000 to Reid even though they won't endorse. No dollars given to Angle.--Jpatt 23:53, 1 September 2010 (EDT)

Can this be put up for today?

Aug. 31/Sept. 1, 1983 On 6:26 am, Korean Airlines Flight 007 carrying 269 occupants, including 22 children under the age of 12 and Democratic Congressman from Georgia, Larry McDonald, was downed by a Soviet Sukhoi 15TM interceptor in between the Soviet territories of Sakhalin and Moneron Island.

Yes, I didn't forget! --ṬK/Admin/Talk 01:48, 1 September 2010 (EDT)

Oil rig explosion

Isn't the great Obama in support of drilling in the Gulf of Mexico? Well, another rig has just exploded.[1] EMorris 12:44, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Arc of the Universe

In words made famous by Martin Luther King, Jr. a century later, Parker predicted the success of the abolitionist cause: "I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one… And from what I see I am sure it bends toward justice." [2]

I'm guessing King knew he was quoting or paraphrasing that Unitarian guy. Whether Obama knows that or not is up for grabs.

What's more interesting is whether Nelson Mendela knew he was quoting some new age woman, when he spoke about "our greatest fear". --Ed Poor Talk 14:23, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Stephen Hawking's latest quote

Stephen Hawking's newest book is coming out and in his latest book he said that God did not create the universe [3]. The liberal mainstream media seems to be hyped up about this. Willminator 16:39, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

You know that such atheistic "conclusions" are ideologically driven when some atheists (as Dawkins[4]) even propose that aliens were responsible for the human race. Daniel1212 23:34, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

It's Official: Barack Obama vs. Hillary Clinton

This could be a winner front page article. If I'm not mistaken, it would be unprecedented for a sitting President not to receive the nomination running for a second term as President of the United States: Game On: First ‘Hillary 2012′ Ad Hits the Airwaves

_:-) DerekE 21:44, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Blair being pelted with eggs

Not to be picky but its actually the Irish Republic, not Britain. So it would be Liberal Censorship, Irish Style. MickeyD 14:37, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

Its not being picky. Dublin is in a completely different country from Britain. I also have a problem with describing Blair as a former liberal. As his book makes clear, he is proud of his liberal legacy, including gay marriage and redistributing wealth through the tax system. Sure, he supported the War and Terror, but that's the totality of his conservatism. Rafael 20:55, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

Valid points, both of them, but I thought both through before posting. Egg-pelting is characteristically British and Tony Blair was the British Prime Minister. Dublin is of course in Ireland but the years of demonizing of Tony Blair came from the Leftists in London. Blair was far more conservative than Gordon Brown, and Blair even converted to Catholicism after resigning, neither (converting or resigning) of which is a liberal activity.--Andy Schlafly 21:03, 4 September 2010 (EDT)
It would be nice to explain the background of hostility between Ireland and "Britain", especially for us Americans who know little of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, or English history. All I know is that the British Isles (a geographic unit) are divided politically into "Republic of Ireland" (south half of the island of Ireland) and the "United Kingdom" (Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales).
Why all the anger? If someone accidentally referred to Toronto as being in New York (possibly confusing it with Buffalo), wouldn't our correction be mild, and our reaction only amusement that someone could make such a simple mistake? --Ed Poor Talk 09:10, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

Although there have been historical tensions between Britain and Ireland, on the whole we enjoy a warm, neighbourly relationship today. My issue was with the inaccuracy of the article - particularly on the front page of CP! - and the way Blair was presented. Blair was a socialist - his party opened and closed its conventions not with the national anthem but with soxialist marxhing song "The Red Flag". He took his party slightly to the right but still makes Obama look like one of your Founding Fathers. Gay marriage, equal rights for gays, draconian hate speech laws, a huge increase in the regulatory burden on business, higher business taxes, billions of extra funding for public schools and socialised medicine, renationalisation of part of the railways. He is a regular guest on Al Jazeera. This is nor a conservative. British political history has many midterm resignations - including the socialist Harold Wilson in 1976 - so that's no indicator of his politics, particularly as he knew his party was going to sack him. His religious conversion is no indicator either - he was an Anglican communicant, even as a fist shaking socialist, and converted tp his wife's faith after Pope John Paul II died (thats another story!). His wife, incidentally, is a human rights lawyer specialising in the same kind of case as your ACLU. True, the left in the UK hated him for supporting the invasion of Iraq and his redirection of their party, but most of the opposition to Blair came from the right, from the Blair Demon Eyes election advert of 1997 to the fact that the Conservative Party would sooner form a coalition with the Liberal Demorcat Party than even negotiate with a still largely Blairite party.

Please forgive the rant, but I feel very angry when I hear a conservative (or anyone!) defend the man without looking at the facts.Rafael 14:17, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

Harold Wilson

@Rafael - Just a point of fact: Harold Wilson resigned because he was becoming very ill; he realised he was in the early stages of Alzheimer's disease, from which he eventually died. You can say whatever you like about his policies but he did the decent thing by resigning when he did. BenjyB 19:09, 8 September 2010 (EDT)

Citizens arrest in Tennessee

I deleted the story about the high school teacher who held teens at gunpoint until cops arrived. This is not breaking news, this is an isolated story, and I doubt anyone will follow up. It raises more questions than it answers. Were the kids trespassing? Did the teacher think he was justified in making a citizens arrest? Will he be found guilty of a crime, or just told to mind his own business in the future?

Did anyone think he was a liberal? Or what? I can't see any reason to have this story on the main page, let alone in the top slot. --Ed Poor Talk 09:05, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

I'm sorry it didn't live up to your expectations, Ed. If you had any doubts, all you needed to do is call or email. If you had bothered to read the story link, you would have read he was indeed arrested on several felony counts, for pointing a loaded rifle at, and holding the kids against their will. It didn't say if it was against the law in that locality to go "Ghost Hunting", but I doubt it is.
And there isn't a "top spot" in the news column, one item just replaces the other, as added. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 17:13, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

Sorry, TK, it was rude of me to remove the story without even giving you the courtesy of a phone call or email. I have put it back, and I beg your forgiveness and indulgence. --Ed Poor Talk 09:21, 8 September 2010 (EDT)

Facebook users

I'm not sure if you're aware, but the report that the news article is based on sampled 100 people out of over 500 million. It's not a very accurate picture of Facebook users. Plus, they only sampled users that were between 18 and 25, leaving out a large demographic. --Dfrischknecht 19:54, 9 September 2010 (EDT)

Then it is perhaps more relevant, given the narrow demographic, than less so, eh? The age demographic they chose, the results are hardly shocking, IMO. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 21:42, 9 September 2010 (EDT)
Please explain how a smaller sample size could lead to a more accurate result. The actuality is that a smaller sample size, while still expected to produce an unbiased result, has a larger variance, as I'm sure you know, meaning that the result is less reliable than it would have been with a larger sample size. DanieleGiusto 17:28, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

A Suggestion for the Main Page

I’m a new editor here after being a regular reader for over a year (especially of the news section). The downside of the constant improvements being made to this encyclopaedia is that it becomes harder and harder to find ways to improve upon it.

While thinking about what contribution I could make to this project, I came up with an idea (I hope no one minds a suggestion from a new user – haha – after all, good ideas can come from anywhere, right?).

I read Conservapedia’s main page at least once a day. I’ve enjoyed the constant updates to the main page that provide some amusing commentary while also brining attention to important issues that aren’t covered elsewhere. Why not also include on the front page some information for people looking for good charitable causes to donate to, like World Vision or Catholic Relief Services? These groups do great work around the world every day, but supporting them is particularly important during major crises, like the ongoing disaster in Pakistan. Providing this information in a prominent position will help remind Christians of their ongoing duty to aid the neediest, and may help encourage other visitors to donate a little more as well. --JeffR 00:29, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

We have recommended specific charities in times of need, when we can confirm that the money is going to its intended use and not to a big CEO salary or a liberal ideology, which unfortunately is the case for many widely known charities. We'd welcome more information about the specific charities you or anyone else might recommend. Conservapedia would not recommend, for example, a charity that spends money on population control or government limits on energy production and use (which saves and enhances lives). Thanks for your other comments.--Andy Schlafly 00:42, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
I'm glad to hear that! As I'm sure you know, World Vision and CRS both embrace core Christian principles, and are run very efficiently. I'm a little confused by your comment on "times of need," however. There is widespread poverty in the world, which kills thousands every day -- shouldn't we always be doing what we can to help? --JeffR 00:47, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
The need in Haiti, for example, was particularly acute after the earthquake there, and we immediately helped. That's all I meant by "in times of need."
As I said, we'd welcome more information about the charities you mention. Do you they have positions on anti-life liberal agenda items like population control or government limits on energy, or similar issues?
I agree it is important to help in the wake of disasters, but surely you'll also agree that chronic poverty is an ongoing tragedy that receives too little attention in the media. As I said, there are many organizations that do not support population control efforts -- I'm sure you must know of a few yourself. In fact, the CRA is the official development organization of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops!--JeffR 01:03, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
Thanks, Jeff, but I'd want more detailed information before recommending a group. Perhaps others can see how "World Vision" and CRS spend the money and post more info here.--Andy Schlafly 01:17, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
I’m glad that you seem to be on board with this idea, and look forward to seeing Conservapedia launch a charitable giving campaign sometime soon! I’m sure we could make a big difference by pulling together and giving what we can.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure what more information you are looking for at the moment (and I’m surprised you haven’t heard about these groups before – I had thought both were well-known examples). If you are still sceptical about my comments (and the endorsement of the Church) on the particular organizations that I mentioned, why not recommend one of your favorite charities that helps out the least fortunate? --JeffR 09:44, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

Jeff, I have heard of the groups and there are "well-known examples" ... of charities. But if they're so good, then why can't anyone explain here how they spend their money?
We not going to recommend any groups that spend money on trying to limit energy. Energy saves and promotes life, and we're pro-life here.--Andy Schlafly 13:47, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
I appreciate your concerns, but since I am not a representative of these charities, I do not feel qualified to explain their policies, particularly on topics that do not appear to be their central concerns (which would create the risk of accidentally misrepresenting them in an attempt to summarize and relay their positions). This is why I encouraged you to either: (1) satisfy your curiosity directly by looking into their policies, or, the simpler option (2) recommend one of your favorite charities working in overseas development.
Looking forward to hearing more from you about this exciting work!--JeffR 14:58, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
This banter has gone back and forth for a while now with no additional substance. I did a quick search for you and found the following article which you may find to be of interest: [5]. I would say that they do appear to be a good charity (see [6]), but my definition of "good charity" clearly differs from the general definition on CP. DanieleGiusto 17:33, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

I did some research on "World Vision," which Jeff never provided. It seems to be an organization founded with good intentions over 60 years ago by a missionary. But what is it doing now? I found this cite where a "World Vision" group emphasizes the liberal position on global warming: [7]. We're not recommending that. Limiting energy production is anti-life, and hits poor areas of the world the hardest.--Andy Schlafly 19:47, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

If you live on the west coast, the best thing you can do for charity right now is give blood. After the explosion in San Bruno (only a few miles from me!), they're apparently desperately short on blood for transfusions. I don't know why, since only a few people were hurt, but if they say they need it, they need it. JacobBShout out! 02:08, 11 September 2010 (EDT)
There is a charity group I will probably recommend after some additional research. It is a Christian group that helps poor kids and has a very low expense ratio and has received notable endorsements.conservative 06:04, 11 September 2010 (EDT)

Mr. Schlafly, I am very disappointed that you seem more interested in debating the merits of my off-the-cuff example charities that in suggesting an alternative group that you do support, or simply creating a prominent reminder for visitors to give to an organization of their choice. I can take the hint, and will stop pressing this issue. In fact, I don’t think I’ll be coming back.

My only point here has been that we should be concerned about a society that shows so little respect for decency and tradition, but we should be outright alarmed that selfless sacrifice and charity are not more common and are not widely encouraged and talked about openly. Is there not something missing from a site that devotes thousands of words to promoting nearly every aspect of a Christian way of life, but does not place charity first and foremost every day, as Jesus repeatedly instructed us to do?

Best of luck.--JeffR 11:37, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Jeff, you are free to join us if you decide to stop playing games. America is the biggest donor nation on Earth. If I am not mistaken, we Americans give more than all other countries combined. Americans continue to lead the world in this category even during hard economic times. The majority gives in some small way daily. The Christian way is not to divide believers .... but unite them everywhere. --Jpatt 12:58, 13 September 2010 (EDT)
I've expelled the new user above for endless arguments. He's also subtly trying to change our policies and endorse anti-Conservative causes. It's an old trick, dating back at least to OxFam.
You set up a charity which helps the families of revolutionaries who are trying to replace authoritarion governments with totalitarian governments. When people refuse to contribute, you accuse them of "not caring". Actually your own desire is power over people: you don't care whether they are benefitted or not.
I've investigated several of these groups, asking whether they would devote as much energy to the relatives of freedom fighters. When pressed, they admit they have never done so and have no plans to.
To go on a bit of a tangent, this is like calling Kinsey's campaign to destroy traditional morality and legitimize homosexuality a Human Rights Campaign.
Anyway, if our "readers" want to debate these matters they should (1) not cloak their ideas as a suggestion to endorse charities, but (2) openly state their arguments about the relative merits of conservatism vs. liberalism in one of our Debate topics.
  • For example, his claim that CP "devotes thousands of words to promoting nearly every aspect of a Christian way of life, but does not place charity first and foremost every day, as Jesus repeatedly instructed us to do" could be debated on a page called: Debate:Should Christians place charity first?
The fact that he did not do this indicates a likelihood that he is deliberately trying to subvert this project. --Ed Poor Talk 14:36, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Good call Ed. Its hard to tell what goes where and I'd like to know much more about charities that use these tactics. Is there any chance you could set up en encyclopedia page and share what you know with us about Oxfam and its ilk? Rafael 17:38, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

You took two years off and just came back now?! There are innumerable "charities" fronting for terrorists and leftists. I don't intend to brand any of them specifically ... more important is the general principle of camouflaging one's aims behind a cloud of good-seeming intentions. --Ed Poor Talk 01:53, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

Obama Present at Press Conference, Speaks for Teleprompter

Step 1) A reporter asks the Teleprompter a question, however, she faces Barack Obama while doing so.[8]

Step 2) The Teleprompter responds, and the President reads aloud its words for the press to hear.[9]

Step 3) Repeat steps 1 & 2, but with a different reporter asking the Teleprompter a question.

...Was this "press conference" a joke or for real? DerekE 16:46, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

Answer: It was real, sadly. DerekE 16:54, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
Sadly, indeed. Even liberals are noticing (finally) there is no substance to Obama. Eavesdrop on the conversations when you eat out someplace, or monitor Twitter, Facebook or the like. The original complaints by conservatives, over two years ago about Obama, initially mocked and ridiculed by the left, are the current talking points on Daily Kos and HuffPo. This explains the liberals greater-than-normal vitriol...they are, quite simply, apoplectic over Obama's continual song and dance. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 18:52, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
Well put, TK. Eventually the Left gets tired of their own lack of substance.--Andy Schlafly 19:38, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

While it is obvious that Obama is a substanceless hack, that second picture doesn't look right. First of all, teleprompters generally aren't big screens behind an audience where everyone can see them, they usually look more like this. Secondly, unless the questions were known beforehand (which they might have been, but if so that's the real story which a reliable group like WND should look into, I wouldn't be surprised if it were true) a teleprompter wouldn't do much good. Whoever was really answering the questions behind the scenes would have to come up with and type the responses very quickly, which would be almost impossible, especially without lots of typos, which don't appear visible in the photo. Also, the picture just looks doctored, and not even very well done. Much more likely would be an undetectable earpiece in which responses could be spoken, rather than written, which would also be much less obvious. Has anyone looked into this possibility? AngusT 11:28, 16 September 2010 (EDT)

Banned teenager

The article about the teenager being banned from the US was actually a spoof. See here. I think this item should be removed from the front page. --Dfrischknecht 13:30, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

I agree, Dave, and have removed the item. It is indeed too bad liberals consider such "parody" funny, instead of what it is, lying, malicious manipulation. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 17:59, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

Irish Science Minister Silenced On Subject Of Evolution

--Benp 20:18, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

Thanks, duly noted on the main page.conservative 04:52, 16 September 2010 (EDT)

Grammatical error in snippet about Coons

I don't mean to be a nitpicker, but the snippet about Coons has a grammatical error. It has "effected" where it should have "affected". --Dfrischknecht 23:34, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

Corrections are always welcome, but the error is yours here. The headline is correct. "Effect" is a transitive verb and it is used properly in our headline.--Andy Schlafly 00:37, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
I've noticed this as well, and apparently was also mistaken in thinking that "affected" is more appropriate here. As far as I understood it, although "effect" can be used as a verb, its use is very limited and it really means "to bring about" or "complete." For instance, one could say "Conservapedia's Bible Retranslation Project affected how people think about Bible translation", but to use "effect", one would need an actual "effect" to be present, e.g. "Conservapedia's Bible Retranslation Project effected an unbiased translation of the bible." So I don't fully understand how "effected" is appropriate in the Coons blurb, but would like to learn. My knowledge on this subject mainly comes from looking at Wiktionary, so that's obviously not a reliable source. What is the complete definition of the word "effect" when used as a verb? --TeacherEd 18:16, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
Here is an example:

As a verb, "effect" means to execute, produce, or accomplish something; as a noun, affect is used primarily by psychologists to refer to feelings and desires as factors in thought or conduct.

--ṬK/Admin/Talk 19:18, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
Thanks TK! That's a great and concise definition. --TeacherEd 20:01, 19 September 2010 (EDT)

Obama approval ratings - what will be the lowest approval ratings in his presidency? Any predictions?

Obama approval ratings - what will be the lowest approval ratings in his presidency? Any predictions? Congress has gone as low as around 15%: If the economy collapses, Obama might see approval ratings around 15% especially if the state and federal social programs/welfare programs get squeezed. Plus in a severe downturn maybe the federal government may see layoffs and salary cuts. Truman and Nixon got pretty close to 20% during their presidencies.[10] conservative 18:16, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

I predict Obama will equal or exceed the lows of Nixon, once the American people have suffered another two years under his socialist bungling with the economy. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 18:26, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
Here is what just happened to Cuba: Cuba to cut 500,000 government workers, reform salaries Right now, federal government workers earn twice what private sector worker counterparts earn on average: If Obama had to approve the feds laying off workers and cutting their pay, he might be less popular among that segment of the population. :) Greece is doing the same thing Cuba is doing right now due to austerity measures imposed by the bankers. "Athens is pressing ahead in the face of protests with tough measures to cut the country's budget, including an increase in taxes and revenue collection, privatizing uncompetitive state-monopolized industries and slashing burdened entitlement programs".[11] conservative 18:32, 18 September 2010 (EDT)
Bottom line: Sooner, rather than later, you run out of other people's money to spend! --ṬK/Admin/Talk 19:07, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

More proof of Biblical accuracy

This interesting article discusses how Moses could have parted the Red Sea, giving further proof of the Bible's historical accuracy. It furthermore demonstrates the Bible's scientific basis as well. --TeacherEd 19:34, 21 September 2010 (EDT)

When you take into account the first born dying and God directing Moses to lift up his rod and divide the sea (Exodus 14:16) and God causing the wind (Exodus 14:21), I think a supernatural explanation is more plausible. God supernaturally created a universe where there was nothing. I think many scientists who are part of the Abrahamic faith are too quick to turn to naturalistic explanations for supernatural events described in the Bible. Take a look for yourself, it was a supernatural miracle. :) conservative 21:10, 21 September 2010 (EDT)
I completely agree with you that it was a miracle, except perhaps an even more complex miracle than one would think. Even in the naturalistic explanation, think of how implausible it would be for all those winds to come and cause the seas to part at just the right moment, when the Israelites needed it. That's were God comes in, and the amazing part is that even in God's great miracle, the laws of physics are not violated (much like in the multiplication of the loaves and fishes, as Mr. Schlafly described earlier). --TeacherEd 22:05, 21 September 2010 (EDT)

Don't let the liberals fill the Ben Beranke article with their nonsense

Don't let the liberals fill the Ben Bernanke article with their nonsense. I edited the article to reflect reality. conservative 23:11, 21 September 2010 (EDT)

Facebook throws away money

The outcome has been the same for decades, throw money at schools and pray for improvements. It never works and neither will Facebook's attempt. $100 million is just 10% of Newark Schools budget. --Jpatt 00:28, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

The donation seems like a gimmick to me, suggesting that lack of money is somehow the problem. The problem isn't a lack of money in public schools, but censorship of the Bible and classroom prayer and conservative values that would really benefit and motivate the students. How about a $100 million dollar donation to break up the teachers' unions, rather than strengthen their suffocating power?--Andy Schlafly 00:49, 23 September 2010 (EDT)
Hopefully this will give Governor Christie added impetus to make the changes he has already outlined:

"The state took control of the troubled Newark system in the 1990s, and this month Gov. Chris Christie informed the city's superintendent that his contract wouldn't be renewed after June 2011. Christie has vowed to implement forceful changes, portending an agenda that includes stronger teacher evaluations and merit pay."

--ṬK/Admin/Talk 03:10, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

Articles on US Government

Hey everyone! I'm currently working on a series of articles on the US Federal Government, since these seem like important topics for a Conservative Encyclopedia. I'm starting with the Department of Education; I was just wondering if anyone would mind taking a look at what I've done so far and make suggestions. I'm still a pretty new user so I'm sure all of you who've been here for longer will have lots of healthy criticism. Thanks! --WillS 01:46, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Texas Board of Education Vote

The Texas board of education has passed the resolution limiting the references to Islam by a vote of 7-5. Story here. -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 19:00, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

New distressing stats

19 percent of gay and bisexual men in 21 major U.S. cities are infected with HIV, and 44 percent of them do not know it, according to a CDC Press Release, reporting results from the 2008 National HIV Behavioral Surveillance System. 59 percent of black men, 46 percent of Hispanic men and 26 percent of white men were unaware of their infection. Among 18 to 29-year-old men, 63 percent did not know they were infected with HIV, compared with 37 percent of men aged 30 and older. [12]

While only constituting an estimated 4 percent of the U.S. male population aged 13 and older, Men Who Have Sex With Men (MSM) account for 53 percent of all new HIV infections in the U.S., (more than 44 times that of other men) as well as 48 percent of people living with HIV.

MSM is the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections are increasing. While new HIV infections have declined among both heterosexuals and injection drug users, infections among MSM have been steadily increasing since the early 1990s.

Nearly 18,000 people with AIDS still die each year in the U.S. CDC: HIV and AIDS in America: A Snapshot Daniel1212 23:02, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Radical American Islamist exposed, but will US Gov't look the other way?

This disgusts and disturbs me. A student from the University of Washington wrote an email about the Ground Zero mosque stating, “we will build our Victory Mosque … We will even build it on top of your grave!” The IP for the sender indicates they accessed their email account via a computer at the University of Washington.[13] Malik Bawwab also made a mistake by using his yahoo account as well as school computers.[14] Do you think this radical extremist will be investigated – or will the government wait until after this UW student living in Seattle, Washington takes extremist actions into his own hands and potentially hurts or kills innocent people? DerekE 10:38, 26 September 2010 (EDT)