Talk:Trump tariffs

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Putinizing the US economy

Trump tariffs essentially are Russifying or Putinizing the US economy. [1] It is the US consumer who pays the tariff - not the country the tariff is imposed upon.[1] The consumer has the free market choice to pay the tariff for an imported good, or buy a domestically produced good. The problem in the US, unlike what Putin had in Russia in 2014 when the trade war erupted with Russian sanctions is, America lacks the manufacturing base and capacity to produce import substitution. Factories have to be built, workers have to educated to operate machinery, etc. That will take years, and is a cultural shock to Americans who now go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt with student loans only to emerge to find employment as pizza delivery or Uber drivers. This requires a change in educational curriculum from gender and race studies to something useful - like how to compete with robotics and automation for a factory job.

The path to economic self-sufficiency (Putinization or Russification) isn't as easy as User:Conservative and many others believe. While noble and glorious, and necessary, it's a longterm commitment not achieved by slogans and campaign rhetoric. Threatening Putin and Russia with nuclear war only complicates and delays that effort - if we are able to survive. The globalist effort to off Putin with regime change and steal Russia's mineral riches & assets will not succeed. Russia is undefeatable, and Trump knows this. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:05, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

  1. Hence, like in Russia after Bill Browder's looting the country, exporting the profits and the rise of Putin who ousted Browder, the tariff money collected comes from the consumers and stays within the country eventually to create more jobs.

WSJ: World's largest automakers lost about $12 billion due to US tariffs

Aw, don't worry. Toyota & Volkswagen top the list ahead of GM & Ford. And we're just getting started. RobSZelensky Must Go!

Analytical thinking 101: What is meant by "loss"? Is it
  • Taxes paid that never made it as profit to shareholders? or
  • Anticipated sales that never happened leading to a contraction in manufacturing output & layoffs (i.e., bad news).

China suspends non-tariff measures after US extends tariff truce; Selective rollback targets medical equipment and aircraft leases in trade deal

[2] RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:48, August 12, 2025 (EDT)

IMO, that will never happen. Not after Obama, Victoria Nuland, and the US killed 100,000 Russians. It'll take at least a generation (i.e., about 30 years) to forgive and forget. Alienating Russia and driving them into the arms of China insured the loss of American hegemony more than a decade ago already. RobSZelensky Must Go! 23:53, August 20, 2025 (EDT)
America has to import gold? Who wudda thunk it? How do we do it? Crank up the printing presses to pay for it? Which foreigners are stupid enough to fall for that?

Target taking retail tags off clothes and charging more because of Tariffs

[3] RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:25, September 2, 2025 (EDT)

This will continue on existing inventories until the items are restocked with fresh imports. Meanwhile, the actual sales at the new higher price gives input to the seller on how much to purchase to restock depleted inventories. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:28, September 2, 2025 (EDT)

Peter Navarro: If Trump Has The Power To Ban Trade, Then He Has The Power To Moderate It Through Tariffs

I'd like to be adding content again, but until Andy Schlafly takes action to insure User:Conservative will not, or cannot, cause disruption all I can do is post the source material. Thanks. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:30, November 17, 2025 (EST)

A poorly written statute subject to expansive reading, or a clear case of Executive overreach by the Trump Administration -- pull out the Rorschach Cards.