Talk:White supremacy
The Ku Klux Klan is an atheistic movement, really? [1][2][3]. Sometimes people of all beliefs and backgrounds need to face up to the fact there are undesirable individuals or groups that share or partially share their beliefs. The Westboro Baptist church, which has been described as liberal by some Conservapedia members are anything but, same for Anders Breivik. Face up to it folks, the Conservative movement, like any moral system has some evil within it.--ColeP (talk) 11:09, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
- I think you are mistaken about the article ever indicating that the Ku Klux Klan was an atheist group who was racist. The article does mention the Creativity Movement which is an atheist, white supremacist group.
- Second, I updated the article to mention that the Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke was an evolutionary racist. Conservative (talk) 12:09, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
- Whilst white supremacists (and other racist groups for that matter) may identify as being Christians, their beliefs and prejudices means that they aren't following the word of jesus correctly and are thus not real christians. FFAF (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
- ColeP, the Ku Klux Klan lead a protest against the Westboro Baptist Church.[4]
- Whilst white supremacists (and other racist groups for that matter) may identify as being Christians, their beliefs and prejudices means that they aren't following the word of jesus correctly and are thus not real christians. FFAF (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
- Second, I think the Westboro Baptist Church is somewhat of a hodgepodge of conflicting political ideologies and difficult to categorize as far as their political ideology. For example, on the one hand, there are anti-homosexuality and the Democrats are pro-homosexual legal marriage. On the other hand, "The Westboro Church helped run Al Gore's Kansas campaign in 1988. Fred Phelps Jr. was a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention and invited to the first Clinton-Gore inauguration in 1993. Phelps Sr. ran for Governor of Kansas in 1990 and received 6.7% of the vote. In 1992, Fred Phelps Sr. ran for U.S. Senate and received 30.8% of the ballots cast.Phelps has strongly supported Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussein in the past. Hussein allowed a group of Westboro delegates to visit Iraq to protest against the U.S. Margie Phelps has gone on Twitter to proclaim her love for Obama and Democrats and hate the GOP and the Tea Party."[5] Conservative (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
It's because the Democratic party of today is drastically different from the democratic party of yesterday. --Scatach (talk) 14:11, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
President Donald J. Trump's views
Would it be worthwhile to list all the times Trump has condemned white supremacy? (The press has made it sound like he's never done so.)
I remember the first time I saw this fake news tactic, during the 2016 campaign. One weekend, he was asked if he'd condemn (or "disavow") a list of racist hate groups in a press interview,
- When Tapper asked if Trump would unequivocally condemn and reject the white supremacists who support him, Trump said he would need to conduct research into the groups. [6]
Trump then spent the bulk of the next 2 or 3 weeks opening every interview with "I disavow" or "I condemn" but the press failed to acknowledge this condemnation, acting as if they were totally unaware of it!
- "David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
- "I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now." [7]
This article is a shambles
Why do editors ignore an important topic like this and leave it in such a shambles? RobSFree Kyle! 20:36, July 29, 2021 (EDT)
- RobS, the recent revert contradicts what is said in the Jussie Smollett article, as I indicated!! Are suggesting that I was edit warring? Will you sort this out, please.--Jackin the box (talk) 15:03, January 24, 2022 (EST)
- MSM reported Smollett was attacked by white supremacists. RobSLet's Go Brandon! 00:00, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- I don't understand the difficulty you have in reading certain facts; (A) ABC's Robin Roberts has yet walk back any of her claims (as CNN Anchors, etc). (B) Kim Foxx has yet to resign, be disbarred or any type of discipline; (C) Michael Obama has yet to clarify his role in leaning on Kim Foxx; (D) Kamala Harris has yet to clarify her relationship with Jussie Smollett or walk back any of her comments.
- So until these facts are clarified, why should we go with conspiracy theories and the verdict of a racist jury in a systemically racist criminal justice system? Let's stick with Mainstream Media reporting. RobSLet's Go Brandon! 02:13, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- Thanks RobS. I was totally unaware of Jussie Smollett until I read about him in Conservapedia. The article on him needs to be updated/corrected by the look of things.--Jackin the box (talk) 09:20, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- Good. You can begin by listing off all his supporters and purveyors of fake news. Then maybe we can create a subsection on the trial. Also Kim Foxx needs a bio cause we have moved beyond Smollett, who apparently is a victim.
- We don't want to look like a conspiracy website, you know, like people who think covid came from a lab, Dr. Fauci should be fired, or J6 was not an insurrection. RobSLet's Go Brandon! 09:51, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- Thanks RobS. I was totally unaware of Jussie Smollett until I read about him in Conservapedia. The article on him needs to be updated/corrected by the look of things.--Jackin the box (talk) 09:20, January 25, 2022 (EST)
If, you agree that the Conservapedia article on Smollett is fake why hasn't it been fixed/deleted? Have you read it lately? --Jackin the box (talk) 10:00, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- It's fairly accurate regarding MSM reporting. I'm not convinced our job is to clean up the deliberate messes they create. RobSLet's Go Brandon! 11:17, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- Why don't you start the Kim Foxx page, and explain what an advocate of civil rights she is and victim of systemic racism.? RobSLet's Go Brandon! 11:23, January 25, 2022 (EST)
- Why don't you start the Kim Foxx page, and explain what an advocate of civil rights she is and victim of systemic racism.? RobSLet's Go Brandon! 11:23, January 25, 2022 (EST)
