User talk:IluvAviation

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Hello, IluvAviation, and welcome to Conservapedia!

We're glad you are here to edit. We ask that you read our Editor's Guide before you edit.

At the right are some useful links for you. You can include these links on your user page by putting "{{Useful links}}" on the page. Any questions--ask!

Thanks for reading, IluvAviation!

If you need anything, feel free to ask! --David B (TALK) 17:22, 1 March 2017 (EST)


Hello IluvAviation, thank you for your edits here. I would like to remind you of some editing guidelines on this site. Conservapedia allows editors who do not share our viewpoint, but as long as they do not disrupt CP or challenge its viewpoint in their mainspace edits. Some of your edits, particularly this, are problematic in this respect. Also, when creating articles, please add categories at the bottom of each article, as I did in your article International Air Transport Association airport code. This allows viewers to find articles easier. Most of your edits so far seem very good, however. Thank you for contributing here. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:38, 1 March 2017 (EST)

I made that one edit because a huge component of Shinto religion is loyalty to emperor who is literally divine. (According to Shinto mythology, Emperor was descendant of the Sun God. Atheists don't believe in Sun Gods, so Shintos in WW2 Japan were not atheists.) Sorry about forgetting to add category to IATA article, silly of me since I spend hours categorizing Wikipedia. Oops. As for the Bangaldesh bloggers, they gave their lives peacefully protesting for a tribunal on war crimes of the Jamaat-e-Islami party, rebranded Hefazat-e-Islam)
No problem. I would recommend posting either on the article's talk page or the main talk page if you think that info should go. Even if you end up being correct that the article is better without the info, it still is a lot of info. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:54, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Agreed. It's okay if something should be removed, but in general, it's better to ask about it on the article's talk page first and see if anyone has anything to say. That way, you encourage collaboration and don't risk starting an edit war, or making people suspect you as a vandal. Cheers! --David B (TALK) 18:15, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Thanks for the help! :) Aviation articles coming soon.--User:IluvAviation(talk) 1 March 2017

Advice of your own

Hi, Gwen - I'm fairly new to this kind of editing. According to the recent changes page, you seem to be a fairly prominent content editor Do you have any tips for editing for long periods of time and large amounts of articles? - Nathan --Abcqwe (talk) 17:22, 2 March 2017 (EST)

Actually, I just joined yesterday. Wish I could give you advice, but I couldn't in good faith do so.--IluvAviation (talk) 17:27, 2 March 2017 (EST)
Okay, thanks anyways.--Abcqwe (talk) 11:21, 3 March 2017 (EST)

More advice

Please check your article Madarasz's tiger parrot. We do not have a Template:IUCN. Also, please review my edits to your articles in order to hopefully get some practical tips on how to improve articles. Thank you for your edits. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:32, 2 March 2017 (EST)

Even more advice

Gwen: I fully appreciate that the writing you see here on the subject of atheism makes you very angry. But you need to refrain from trying to edit most of the articles related to "atheism and ..." or "homosexuality and ..." or "evolution and ...". The articles to stay away from can be identified by looking at their edit history and noting enormous numbers of edits by "Conservative", often to the exclusion of anyone else. These articles are his/her pet projects. (Actually, he's male, but he likes to play the "man/woman of mystery" game.) Just don't try to edit those articles or their talk pages. I realize that staying away from them will be extremely frustrating to you.

If you can find satisfactory ways to express your views on theism/atheism, or other subjects (science and math are what do it for me), I congratulate you.

Don't get me wrong; user:Conservative ("Cons" for short) is a fun person to interact with, once you and he get to know each other. It took a while for me to develop a rapport with him, and it's been fun ever since. Especially when he does things like tell me that liberal Christians (or, in your case, atheists) must be very upset over the presence of sex with horses (I'm not kidding!) in our respective communities. It's much more fun than dealing with the anklebiters that I sometimes deal with, as in my present revert war over relativity with someone who obviously didn't get the memo.

Hang in there. SamHB (talk) 14:04, 3 March 2017 (EST)

@SamHB::There is no reasonable doubt the majority of soldiers in the Nanking massacre were Shinto, (there were a few Buddhists and Confucans. Despite the popular misconception Buddhists aren't perfectly peacefull, just look at history a couple hundred years ago) I'm not going to start an article on The Lords Resistance Army of Uganda as that would stir up a lot of anger and strong feelings here (despite the fact that small moderate churches in Uganda have done the most to help victims like Night commuter children) or anything else like that. I'll just stick with aviation for the most part (some religious parents block Wikipedia but allow Conservapedia, so at a minimum I'll edit the aviation articles) In terms of feelings, I try to separate myself from my emotions but when verbal atheists like Ananta Bijoy Das and Ahmed Rajib Haider are murdered you're right I get angry. I won't edit articles related to "atheism and ..." or "homosexuality and ..." or "evolution and ... much, it is just very well documented that a vast majority of the Japanese military were practicing Shintos.--IluvAviation (talk) 16:56, 3 March 2017 (EST)

I definitely didn't mean to dissuade you from writing about these topics; I'd like to read what you have to say about them. I just don't want you to waste your time on the many pages owned by Cons. In any case, he tends to delete them—see the deletion log between 22:05, 5 March 2017 and 00:54, 6 March 2017.
And congratulations on your new account rights. Block authority is a very powerful right. Use it wisely. And only to stop vandalism, which we occasionally get epidemics of. SamHB (talk) 20:52, 5 March 2017 (EST)

And, right on cue ....

Cons steps in. Look at the recent changes log for the last couple of hours. Cons, you are so much fun! SamHB (talk) 15:20, 3 March 2017 (EST)

Account promoted

Account promoted

Congratulations, your account has been promoted, this time to include uploading privileges and off-hours overnight editing. Please be sure to give attribution to the author of the image pursuant to CC or other licensing guidelines. Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:42, 5 March 2017 (EST)

Congrats! Just please make sure to include with each uploload:
  1. Source
  2. Licence type
  3. License owner, if applicable
  4. Categories (Category "Image" and other relevant categories)
Thanks, and enjoy! --David B (TALK) 18:03, 5 March 2017 (EST)
Got it. Already uploaded image for ValuJet 592 plane. Thanks for uploading the Raif Badawi image, used it to make a userbox here: and for Valujet 592: provided sources, just can't figure out how to "lock" it.

It looks like you did a fine job with that upload. As far as protection goes, neither you nor I can do that--only admins have that ability. Technically I have that ability, but I can't use it effectively, since it seems a user can't prevent him/herself from editing something. Since I am blocked by protection like everyone else, the permission does me no good. However, since upload rights are restricted, images are pretty safe anyway. If you want, you can ask an admin to protect it, but I personally wouldn't bother. --David B (TALK) 19:11, 5 March 2017 (EST)

re: Persecution of atheists, Atheism vs. Islam and Atheism and Christmas articles

I created the Persecution of atheists article. Feel free to add relevant material to that article.

Also, please feel free to add material to the Atheism vs. Islam article because I am not currently following this topic and I expect newsworthy things to be happening in relation to this topic - especially in Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

In addition, please feel free to add content to the Atheism and Christmas and War on Christmas articles.

Please don't add any red links to the articles as User:AlanE and I agree that they look awful.

Lastly, you seem more like a S.E. Cupp atheist than a new atheist. I currently come in regular contact with two Cuppian-like weak atheists/agnostics and we get along very well. In other words, they are not militant atheists with quarrelsome personalities. Conservative (talk) 21:09, 27 March 2017 (EDT)

I have my issues with S.E. Cupp, disagree over a couple things. (Specifically saying she would never vote for an atheist president. I don't care at all about a politician's personal religious beliefs as long as they are nonviolent.) As far as religion in America, I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate from both sides of the aisle but I'll say it anyway: there isn't systematic persecution of any religion in America: not Christians, not Atheists, not Muslims. There is the rare occasional lunatic with a screw lose who acts violently against another on the basis of their religion, but there isn't systematic efforts to eliminate any one religion. Society fluctuates religiosity: Church attendance spiked after 9/11, other national tragedies, and times of distress (ex, a recession). I would expect church attendance to slowly drop over time and then suddenly increase again (like if there is a recession), but there are no significant efforts to eliminate church attendance. I think her work Losing Our Religion goes a bit too far in terms of American politics. Christians are extremely persecuted in other nations, just look at Brunei and Somalia. (Brunei introduced Sharia in 2014 and banned all Christmas celebrations. What kind of monster bans Christmas? Christmas is also banned in Somalia and Tajikistan, not even allowed to mention it on TV in Tajikistan) As for being an atheist, I am an atheist, not an agnostic or weak atheist, I dislike the religious based violence from theocracies like Saudi Arabia, ISIS, and the LRA, and I won't become a militant atheist in the land of the free. If I lived in a nation like Bangladesh or Brunei I might call myself a militant atheist, and I'm completely sympathetic to so-called "militant atheists" in Bangladesh. (Funny how atheists in Bangladesh are called "militant" because they insult Muhammed but the Jammat-e-Islami terrorists who kill them are called "teenage activists" by the government) I tremendously respect the religious people who fight for freedom of religion in theocracies; just look at the writings of Raif Badawi, Mohamed Cheikh Ould Mkhaitir, and Hamza Kashgari.

As for red links, they are articles I'm about to create, so they'll turn blue soon and it saves time.

My point is I'm probably going to add a bit of content on human rights in Brunei, no mention of new Sharia started in 2014 in the article; as well as Christian persecution in Islamic theocracies.IluvAviation (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2017 (EDT)

Airbus A380

Hello IluvAviation, I saw your edits on Airbus A380. I think that name is better than the old name, but your moving the article name was not a good thing to do. Let me explain.

Copyright law and attribution is serious business, and we like to keep the edit histories of articles so we know who contributed to them. Because you manually moved the article, it looks like you were the only contributor when in fact most of the work was done by other editors. It can make people suspicious of plagiarism because those people are not given credit, and the edit histories show an entire article being created in one edit (the latter obviously doesn't always mean plagiarism).

When you want an article name moved, I recommend asking an editor like User:DavidB4, who has moving power, to move the article. If you need a redirect deleted so the article can be moved there, I recommend asking an admin/bureaucrat like User:Aschlafly or User:Karajou.

I will ask Andy to correct your mistake. Nothing to worry about. Thank you for your edits! It seems like CP is incomplete regarding articles about aircraft, so your work is necessary. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2017 (EDT)

So sorry! I completely forget and just wanted to standardize the titles of the Airbus A3XX series planes. Will fix soon.--IluvAviation (talk) 19:02, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
I have messaged Andy, so I don't think you have to worry about the A380. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:09, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
Also, in case you haven't noticed already, if you want to cite the same reference twice, do this. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:14, 30 April 2017 (EDT)

Main page talk postings about Islam

If you post notices about Islam on main page talk in the future, I am not going to post anymore responses.

And there are various topics we agree on. For example, on your user page you mention that you are pro-Israel. Conservative (talk) 21:57, 2 May 2017 (EDT)