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Clinton Revert....

I jumped in since Dan was headed to bed, and tried to answer some of your questions, here: [[1]] --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 04:58, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Sometimes it does seem as if they are instantly checked! It had me puzzled for a bit as well. What happens is, many regular users have a window opened here [[2]] to "Recent Changes" and refresh it periodically. Also, from your "Preferences" you can enable "Watch this Page" and set a limit even on how many. Then whatever page you edit, or manually choose to "watch" will show up in your Watch List. Since Dan had previously edited the Clinton page, it was on his, undoubtedly. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:15, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Good Job

Thank you for your excellent edits. Keep up the good work! DanH 15:09, 11 May 2007 (EDT)


Fantastic work on the Jesus Christ article! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:00, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

Saint Andrew

Fine. It is done now.

I agree to do that. If I did redirect it was because "Ian St John 11:48, 13 May 2007 (EDT)" complain about Andrew and Philip along. I have the intention to make the six articles that are left to complete the 12 Apostles. Next time the name will be for example: "Bartholomew the Apostle".

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:15, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

Highlighting Links


Thanks for your comment. I knew that and it's logic. For sure I agree with it. Could be a mistake if there is one or two made by me.

Have you fixed them or do you want me to search?

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:38, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Done. I hope to see you soon as a Sysop!!! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:38, 30 May 2007 (EDT)


Just wanted to be clear that I was agreeing with you. Not sure if you were responding to me or GodWarrior when you wrote this. HeartOfGold 14:59, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

My pleasure

It has been an honor. Thank you indeed.

Edit summaries

I appreciate this edit, and concur. While I also neglect make edit summaries, I want to encourage you to make use of the edit summary box. This probably sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, but I assure you that I do endeavor to follow this advice, and I encourage you to do the same. It makes reviewing edit histories of articles easier. Thanks for contributing. HeartOfGoldtalk 01:22, 21 May 2007 (EDT)


Excellent work on the Rather article.Bohdan Talk 12:58, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

Global Warming,

You might want to consider this [[3]] when making larger changes to articles. Not that I am disagreeing with your additions to the "Warming" article. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:19, 21 May 2007 (EDT)


Could you improve my pathetic excuse-of-an-article on Justinian? It seems he is someone you would know much about.Bohdan Talk 18:21, 21 May 2007 (EDT)


You got caught up in the removal of some other stuff! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:27, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

I agree with you

The atheism article is better as you have it. The agnostic stat is not going to be included, and the citation is not needed.Bohdan Talk 19:47, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Your quality contributions to this site and especially the history articles have earned you a place in the highly coveted and extremely prestigious "Bohdan's notable Users" category. Keep up the good work.Богдан Talk 23:07, 26 May 2007 (EDT)


What's the problem with my edit to the atheism page? --ThunderBunny 22:51, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

  • I beleive the edit notes tell you rather directly, what?

(cur) (last) 02:55, 28 May 2007 Ed Poor (Talk | contribs | block) (→Atheist Population - Stop confusing "uncertain" with "agnostic")
(cur) (last) 02:53, 28 May 2007 Ed Poor (Talk | contribs | block) (move up "origins" section) >br> (cur) (last) 02:52, 28 May 2007 Ed Poor (Talk | contribs | block) (The term "atheism" also includes uncertainty about whether God exists or not, that is, people who never believe in God or actively deny His existence)

--Sysop-TK /MyTalk 23:01, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Most of those weren't my edits. --ThunderBunny 02:10, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

I don't really see it as a tangent. "Atheist morality" is included in the page and morality is part of philosophy. In fact, I don't think you can talk about morality without being philosophical. As far as not including enough philosophers goes, I think the group I gave was pretty complete- at least as far as an Ethics101 class would go. You'll be hard pressed to find many Philosophers who base morality on religious doctrines in the last few hundred years- in fact, the entire spirit of the Enlightenment was against such thinking. Now we call those people "theologians." I'm sure there are some, but they have not had much impact. You mentioned C.S Lewis, but he is not considered a very good philosopher by anyone's standards (though "Studies in Words" was nice) and he did not put forward a rigerous study of ethics, besides "God in the Dock," which is fairly obscure. As such, I'd like to put it back. Of course, I'm new to this wiki and don't want to move in too aggressively to your space, so I thought I'd say something here. --ThunderBunny 02:10, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Don't be afraid to edit, but please realize the scope of conservapedia is to go beyond the 'ethics 101' class into meaningful and important people and viewpoints that are not represented. There were many more than a handful of philosophers in the last couple hundred years and simply removing those who invoked religion by reclassifying them as 'theologians' (as if one can't be both) is the type of slight of hand that conservapedia tries to avoid. And, I think you'll find that there are many people who take a different view on C.S. Lewis' philosophy than the one you presented. ;-) Reverts or alterations of edits are not personal attacks and please don't take personal offense. Enjoy your stay. ;-) Learn together 02:26, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Yes, I read that and found it very discouraging and narrow minded. Does this wiki make an attempt at objectivity, or is it simply a conservative partisan answer to its liberal partisan counterparts? --ThunderBunny 03:03, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Again, theologians can be philosophers. I am sorry if that understanding is too 'narrow minded' for you. To answer your second questions, yes. Learn together 04:25, 3 June 2007 (EDT)


Your contibutions have been high quality. I would support you.Богдан Talk 13:25, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

  • I have answered you on my page, but I am afraid you are not on any list I can see.....:-( --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 03:57, 30 May 2007 (EDT)


Hi, I checked out your House of David article and followed the first link to Solomon. In your article it gives his lifespan as 970-931 BC, whereas in the Solomon article it says 965-925 BC. I am not sure which one is correct, but figured you'd be a good person to ask to look into it. --Colest 16:24, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Article for your attention please

Four Emperors Era needs work and it seems like you would know about it. Богдан Talk 20:18, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

nice work LT bd Talk 23:03, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
Glad you like it ;-) Learn together 23:04, 5 June 2007 (EDT)


correction made. Conservative 22:50, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Glad I could help Learn together 23:58, 4 June 2007 (EDT)


LOL!! I'm very sorry. I just happened to be browsing the Conservapedia wanted pages and decided to make that page. I had no idea you were already making it. That is the funniest coincidence. :P --BethanySTalk 12:19, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Intuitive page naming

Please try to be more intuitive when naming an article, particularly regarding people of Ancient Rome - just one of many examples is your choice of article name for Antonia ... your article is actually about Antonia Minor, who also had a sister named Antonia, Antonia Major. Simply creating a page called Antonia, particularly with regard to Rome, is like creating an article called Bob or Smith and expecting your choice of subject to be the only one of any importance or significance historically or culturally. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 04:54, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

I believe you will find that there is much literature in antiquity for Antonia Minor and little for Antonia Major. I have sought to make the Roman history section friendly and easy for those wanting quick flowing information. In that regard I've created the articles that allow quick movement back and forth in a simple form to get a feel for the interconnectedness. If it would come to a point where more obscure persons in Roman history start having their own articles, and thus there is more than one Antonia, then the format can certainly be changed, but since you are talking literally thousands of entries with many thousand more events that would also have to be entered to start including auxillary Roman figures, it would appear to be a structure that has no body.
I also find you method of change and do not discuss to be rather rude and inappropriate for a cooperative effort. I have discussed and been involved in renaming both for articles written by others and for articles I've written. It's usually not that difficult to discuss a new direction to go and both be on the same page working together. Again, I ask you to please consider that for the future. Learn together 11:51, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
You are missing the point! If you just created each article with the correct name at the outset, then it would not matter what happened afterwards, whether further articles were created or not. It doesn't make the section more easily navigated by having only half of a name and it increases the workload later of having to fix all the links to point to the correct name. Please consider that for the future. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:04, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
I am afraid you are missing the point. This is a cooperative effort. I find you to believe that your view = the right view and all others must bend to your decisions. You are my peer, not my boss, and your views are views like any other person that should be discussed. I don't even treat my workers with the heavy handed methods that you use, and I am their boss.
If people come to look up things on Conservapedia you have to keep their attention quickly. Many are not going to be computer savvy and are not going to want to go through different screens picking who they want from lists imported from wikipedia of multiple entries that don't even exist on our system. We have one Antonia entry right now. It doesn't hurt to have that pop up. At least that was my view when I created it and I'm the one who spent the time to put it into Conservapedia and tie together a fluid interlocking of the people of ancient Rome at that time that allows easy look up. The key is to get ourselves up to the point where other edits will ultimately be necessary. That is my opinion. Learn together 12:38, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

::::"I find you to believe that your view = the right view and all others must bend to your decisions." Hello Pot, meet Kettle. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:54, 13 June 2007 (EDT)Okay, LT, I'll try to be more considerate when editing; yell me on my talk page if you spot me getting over-enthusiastic in any particular areas. Shalom :) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 14:07, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you, and God's blessing to you as well. I'm sure this small distraction will not keep either of us from using our talents to continue to improve conservapedia ;-) Learn together 03:20, 15 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Why are two of my favorite editors arguing? Can't we get along? Bohdan 14:02, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Point taken, B :) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 14:07, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
  • You guys thank Bohdan profusely! I saw this earlier, and decided I was going to check back, and if it was still going, decide the arugment my way!  ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:31, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Uribe Human Rights Abuses

Ok, I will obtain several sources from mainstream media, I think the source I listed is fine but I will obtain more. Just because Uribe is conservative doesn't mean we should let him committ gross violations of human rights. Authoritarianism is wrong whether left or right. Terror doesn't have an ideology --FreedomandLiberty 11:05, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

It's not my call as to what is an acceptable source, but a sysop has already determined that your current source is inadequate, so putting it back after removal is not going to work. Please be considerate of the forum you are editing and its standards. Thanks Learn together 11:10, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Ok we now have CNN, Amnesty International, and the NY Times. Or is that not mainstream enough. I'll see if Fox News puts out a story on Uribe. Maybe thats the only news network "mainstream" enough.


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Ralph Reed, et. al.

  • You are making me concerned. Please don't make me concerned. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:48, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
I didn't understand what you were talking about until I read the edit. My edit, as I understood it, was only for links. I did not mean to put back ridiculous information. It appears I accidentally added the links to the previous version and not the most recent. Thank you for pointing it out. Learn together 10:52, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

courtesy notice

I liked your Praetorian guard article and I have found that your articles are well written at Conservapedia. Conservapedia is experimenting with uncited templates in order to help increase the useability of our articles as a reference resource. I put a uncited template on your Praetorian guard guard and as a courtesy I wanted to let you know. Thanks for all the fine work you have done at Conservapedia. Conservative 19:07, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for the courtesy notice Conservative. I am pleased you liked the article and I'm pleased for your kind words towards the work I have been able to contribute. ;-) Learn together 00:49, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for being so gracious to my request and I have another request

Dear Learning together,

Thank you for your kind response to my previous request. I found another article that you had significantly contributed to and I was hoping you could squeeze in some time to cite this article: Marcus Aurelius. Again, thank you for all your contributions to Conservapedia. Conservative 20:28, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you again for the kind words. Unfortunately, while I have sources, I also have accumulated knowledge over time which is a bit harder to put as a reference. I've put the main sources I'm using to augment that knowledge. I'm not sure what the bibliography format should be for books as I've checked other articles and found multiple forms. Please let me know if there is an agreed upon standard that I should emulate. Thanks Learn together 23:11, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
Sorry to come in uninvited, but that had been a problem for me too. I think I just copied the format from a different article, and kept using it. Perhaps this is a question for Mr. Schlafly. If there isn't a standard for this, I think there should be. Congratulations on your over 1000 contributions. Bohdan 23:25, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
It is always good to hear from you my friend. You are a great benefit to Conservapedia and I am glad to see your work is well received by so many. Everywhere I look, you are keeping on top of things. Blessings always ;-) Learn together 23:30, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for the compliment LT. Your work is greatly appreciated. Have a look here. This article seems like one for you to make: Amoz. perhaps you would want it? I could always try it if your too busy. Bohdan 00:37, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
I've expanded Amoz, although there wasn't much to put. The Bible doesn't say anything about him except as a title for Isaiah "son of Amoz". Learn together 13:40, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

John the Baptist

You reverted Jinka's edits on the John the Baptist article. I have undone your reversion and protected the article. Before the article is unprotected, we need to have a discussion on the article's talk page, and I believe it should start with your reply to Jinkas. Crocoite Talk 11:03, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

The usual protocol when a revert is done is to keep the old version until a discussion in talk can create concensus. Your decision to revert and protect is questionable. The information stated as fact is Mormon doctrine and believed only by the Mormon Church. To state it as fact was and is inappropriate. I do not question your religious beliefs, but if articles are going to be changed to present your church's views as fact when they are not supported by a single other Christian denomination, then we will have problems. I have not noted you doing this in the past, and I hope this is merely a misunderstanding and will not be part of a new trend. Learn together 11:27, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
"Historically, only until recently have Mormons wanted to be called Christians, preferring not to be included with Christian denominations which Joseph Smith said were, "all wrong...all there creeds were an abomination in his sight, and that those professors (Christians) were all corrupt." (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith, 2:18-19)
In the past Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) have preferred to be called "saints." However, in the recent years the LDS church has spend millions in an intense public relations campaign aimed at moving their church into the mainstream of Christianity. The political and economic benefits of Mormons being included in the mainstream of Christianity are obvious. Further, for Mormons to be accepted as traditional Christians would greatly aid in their proselyting the members of Christian denominations into the LDS church. This is why the LDS church is trying so hard to present themselves as Christians and trying to overcome the stigma of being a cult." [4]
"The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible. To the Mormons, Jesus, is the first born son of an exalted "man" who became the god of this world. According to LDS church teaching, their god was first a man who became a god. The man-god of Mormonism was then made the god of this world because of his good works on another planet somewhere out in the Universe. He "earned" godhood, and was thus appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth. The Mormon god of this world was a man, like all men on earth. This is what the celestial marriage and the temple vows are all about. LDS men, by doing their temple work, are striving for exaltation by which they too shall one day become gods. Their wives will be the mother goddesses of "their" world and with their husband will produce the population of their world. This is the Mormon doctrine of "eternal progression."
Note the following quote is from the Mormon, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, page 123, made by the LDS Apostle Orson Hyde:
"Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, a mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point were He is.""[5]
I'm sorry, but Mormonism isn't Christianity, and editing Christian articles to present the Mormon doctrine is just plain wrong. Sorry, but thast's the way it is. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 11:35, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
I'm not going to question Crocoites deeply held religious beliefs or how he would define himself. But when a choice is made to push those beliefs to overlay mainstream Christian thought and act like it is a natural part of the Christian understanding, then I have a problem. I am pleased to have you as an ally in this Fox. Learn together 11:43, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Can I express how truly disappointed I am in your actions? Here you need partners, colleagues, not an ally. To be in a leadership position here, or anywhere, one needs to rise above their personal beliefs, and build consensus. Shutting others out of that process builds distrust. Now you see where this has all gotten you, eh? The question now is, what will you be willing to do to repair the damage done to your reputations... --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:29, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
I am sorry Terry, but I stand by my actions. The choice to lock the article by a sysop when there was no edit war in place and after himself reverting back to the questionable edit set this off. One common theme that came across from the talk section was that no one who commented believed the locked version was appropriate as written. If left to the natural editing process, myself and the original contributor would have come to an article that pretty much matches what is there now, and without the hassle. Learn together 18:16, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
  • So there was no need for your posting to Rob, was completely unnecessary, wasn't it? I wouldn't continue to stand by your inappropriate actions for too long. You know I have been supportive, as I have with Fox, but you both have severely tried me in your poor judgements in handling this. Way too divisive. Way too strident and alarmist. You always have the option with me, you know, to email or IM, otherwise my posts are public, but just as candid. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:40, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
That is correct; there was no need to post to anyone and it would not have occurred, until the article was improperly reverted and locked with an inappropriate edit in place. I tried talking to Crocoites; I got nowhere. I said I'd take it up to Andy; he said go ahead. Instead of going for the top, I decided to go to the sysop level, and my solicitations for extra input were done in good taste, not 'the sky is falling'. Let's not forget either that during the entire time Crocoites has never tried to defend his actions, only stated he is going to leave because he's personally hurt.
As you know Terry, I am in a leadership position in the "real" world. We expect people to defend actions that they take, or else don't take them. In the case of a mistake, admit it, and move on. I've seen the "I'm hurt" argument in place of constructive explanation. It doesn't fly. Learn together 19:29, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Since Crocoite is a Sysop, the next level would have been Andy. You can keep talking all you want about what you think is "right" according to how you think, how you believe, but my point here is what was right for CP. Now, I expect you to be repairing this. Perhaps a writing plan? I will wait to hear from you. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:03, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
If I didn't think it was right for CP Terry, I wouldn't have done it. Junior High kids coming to CP would have thought that was a natural part of John the Baptist. There was no indication that it had any difference in weight or belief from the earlier Biblical sections. I've found there is a higher tier of sysops based on their time, experience, and editing privileges. Even now my friend, you tell Bodhan, who is a sysop, that you have dibs on me for a project even after he asked me first. And you know what, none of us will question that because you are deferred to for your greater experience and time on CP. I don't know what you mean below about showing I can contribute for the greater good. I have over 1200 edits over a large spectrum of topics. Day by day even I'm not sure which directions I'll be taken. I'm not sure what part of the body of my work would not show the greater good in your sight. I'm a volunteer here contributing because I can help out, and I do. If there is some other way you feel I can be beneficial, then I'm happy to hear it, but this is your baby. You can always email me if you have specific things you wish to discuss. Learn together 20:39, 29 June 2007 (EDT)


I'm not sure how much information is available on these characters, but could you go through this list of Roman emperors here [6] and add what you can? I would try, but I'm not very good at my Roman history. Bohdan 18:20, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

I will be happy to help my friend. I'm afraid I've gotten behind on the things I've wanted to do. Finishing up the Emperors is on my list. ;-) Learn together 19:36, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, perhaps, Bohdan, you could ask someone else, as I have prior dibs on Learn Together for a writing plan, etc. He will need to demonstate to me his ability to work for the greater good, rather than specific issues, before he can participate in what you want, my friend. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:04, 29 June 2007 (EDT)


Could you be interested in being in the contest?

Could you join Team 1? Here Thanks. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:31, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

I would be honored my friend. ;-) Learn together 14:43, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Ok, in my next turn you will be in. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:53, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Whoops, sorry, I didn't understand what was occurring and simply placed myself on your team. Please forgive my oversight. Learn together 14:55, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Please visit: Basis

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:51, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Please contact me by my E-Mail. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:33, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent work. Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:12, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Good work. Keep going. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 02:55, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Please visit:


--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 09:31, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent work. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 10:49, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Welcome back... --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:33, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Joaquin, both for the "Excellent work" and the "Welcome back" ;-) I have a few things I need to do, but I still intend to add many more contributions before it ends. ;-) Learn together 00:38, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Good work, my friend. Team 2 is not far from us. I think we still have a chance to win. Keep pushing. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:33, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

We have two articles that are in a good position in Google:

Andrew Mellon 76 among 142 000.

Fruits of the Holy Spirit 14 among 37 500.

Do you think you could help to improve them in order to get a better ranking?

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 12:11, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:58, 23 July 2007 (EDT)


I agree with your reasoning and have unlocked Scotland. Geo.Complain! 17:21, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you, I appreciate it. ;-) Learn together 17:24, 2 July 2007 (EDT)


That may not be an "official" reason, but it is most certainly a reason for protest. Can we put it back in? Bohdan 21:17, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Look at it now and tell me if its better. Bohdan 21:32, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Yes, I think that's much better ;-) Learn together 21:41, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

French and Indian Wars

Hey, I've done a basic cleanup on the two articles. I'm about to head out of town for the rest of the week, so I don't have time at the moment to do much more, so if you have the time and the inclination you might want to give them some attention. --Colest 14:02, 3 July 2007 (EDT)


Hi LearnTogether. I just reworded your update to the Falklands article a bit so that it reads better, let me know if you don't like it. Note that many of the Argentinian casualties were sailors, not soldiers. 655 is the official number, do you have a source that says its called into question? I couldn't find one (after not very long looking, I have to admit). Thanks Ferret 17:03, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

You have a fine edit Feret and I'm glad you added your input. I have no problem with it. The question as to casualties is the source itself - the Argentine government at the time which wildly misled its people as to the course of the war and had a very vested interest to keep the numbers low after losing to Great Britain. It's a bit like trusting Hamas casualty numbers. Peace to you, and may you continue to make many fine edits. Learn together 17:15, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Division by zero

You can divide by zero, but the calculation is effectively meaningless as the answer returned is always infinity. This is why calculators and Excel display an error message when asked to perform this function. Hope this helps. --Marshall 19:23, 8 July 2007 (EDT)


I hope after the Contest you would have 3000.  :) --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:56, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

I'll try my best my friend. ;-) Best wishes to everyone in the contest, but either way Conservapedia wins. ;-) Learn together 18:03, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

You need to make a new page for Contest Personal Record. Take a look here.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:20, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

I already thought of that. You have blocking privileges.--Aschlafly 19:29, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you Andy ;-) Learn together 02:57, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Team page

Try it now LT; if it still bounces you, yell Joaquin - I'm slipping away for a couple of hours of kip ;) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 21:19, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Fox, you're the man! ;-) Learn together 21:33, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Sorry, I haven't been contributing much lately. I've been very busy with work, family issues and Toastmasters. I would appreciate your input on the new section at the Team 1 contest page. --Crocoite 12:28, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

You have it, and any contributions are appreciated. ;-) Learn together 00:37, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Welcome template


File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 04:40, 11 July 2007 (EDT)


Lutheran Church is also copied from a Wikipedia article. More info is on Aschafly's talk page. AManInBlack 13:13, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

I am surprised because it is not especially well written, but thank you. Learn together
He did a rather poor job of concealing his plagiarism; it is partially rephrased or summarized in places. AManInBlack 13:15, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
I've rewritten the article. Hopefully now it is unique to Conservapedia. Thank you again for catching this violation and your efforts on following through. Learn together 13:45, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

request for help

Can you help me with the footnote section of evolution. Right now 1/2 the footnotes are just bare links. Conservative 13:32, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

I am sorry my friend, but that article is protected to people like me. ;-) Best wishes though, it's looking better all the time. Learn together 02:27, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

"The Earth and Its Peoples A Global History."

Why not just post the book in its entirety instead of the 81 - and counting - three sentence fragments from it you've posted so far? PFoster 23:37, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

I'll be happy to answer you... when you have taken the time to show that you wish to improve Conservapedia by making 81 new entries of your own. Peace. Learn together 23:41, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
He was a troll/sock and won't be making any new entries! Bohdan 02:22, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
Somehow I didn't think that would be his cup of tea. ;-) Thank you my friend! Learn together 02:24, 18 July 2007 (EDT)


Thanks! DanH 10:34, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

I see

You're working on the LXX, I started Vulgate, should we be thinking of adding a category such as Bible versions? U2 13:28, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

I think that's a good idea. Put it as a subcategory under Bible. Learn together 13:30, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
Go right ahead, I can't even find the list for categories! U2 13:41, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
Done ;-) Learn together 14:18, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
That was a good idea. I protected the 2000 election because of walter repeated false changes. Bohdan 14:33, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
Thank you my friend. ;-) I was hoping I wouldn't have to block him. Learn together 14:35, 19 July 2007 (EDT)


I don't know how to copy and download pics to Conservapedia. Can you show me how to do it? If I am not able to understand your directions can you download some pictures for me? Conservative 15:40, 19 July 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for your work default sorting entries! DanH 23:04, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

You're welcome Dan. ;-) I kind of came across them by accident, but when I see them I try to clean them up. ;-) Learn together 23:06, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

I didn't

I didn't copy from Wikipedia or any place against policy.--FellowChristian16 23:37, 23 July 2007 (EDT)


Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:20, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations! We won! DeborahB. 11:11, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Did they give any totals my friend? Where can we check them up? Thanks! Learn together 11:13, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Good question...I'll see what I can find and get back to you asap! DeborahB. 11:14, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Thank you Deborah ;-) Learn together 11:16, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Congrats! I just looked at recent changes and it looks like it's NE Patriots night... --Tash 23:32, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Hey, you did all the work Tash! As I'm putting in the sorts, I can't believe how much effort you put into filling out bios on so many players! ;-) Learn together 23:33, 24 July 2007 (EDT)


Done. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:41, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

take page v. user page

When both pages are blank, don't you think you are getting worked up over nothing? Honestly - the user hasn't made any indication of how he wants his castle to be utilized. You're making assumptions for him, which seems to intrude heavily into his autonomy. --TGlennRet 02:01, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Unless you have been given express permission, one way is right and one is wrong. It's not getting worked up. It's trying to help you understand Conservapedia rules and etiquette. Other wikis are into that sort of trampling each other thing, but here we try to be respectful and civil. I'm sure if he requests his user page to be used, that no one will have a problem with that. Another point that you may wish to consider is to avoid 'ping-pong' conversations, we try to keep the writing on one talk user page. If you had responded to me on your page, I would have seen it just as well with the fuller context. Learn together 02:06, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Categories, Etc.

  • You might want to check this out: [[7]] I would like your thoughts as well, particularly in regard to the categories and wanted page list, via IM or email, at first, until we build some direction. Perhaps I can even compel you, Aziraphale, BrianCo and Mr. Rayment into a productive chat session! :p --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:19, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Block powers?

Please take a look at this. User:PheasantHunter/FullSig 02:19, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for your astute eye. He has been removed. Learn together 02:22, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
Not sure if this is a problem, but the user changed another user's comments on a talk page. (I reverted the change, but keep an eye on the guy.) User:PheasantHunter/FullSig 02:23, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
Same page, earlier edit also problematic. User:PheasantHunter/FullSig 02:24, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

User:MichaelaHunt is vandalizing. Could you also protect a few pages for me? User:PheasantHunter/FullSig and User:PheasantHunter/TestTalk. thanks. User:PheasantHunter/FullSig 02:37, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

  • LT, please refer all requests from PheasantHunter to me, okay? He is very adept at playng the system, and that is exactly what he has been doing. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 05:02, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
TK, I'd appreciate it if you brought such gossip and innuendo to me before posting it on other users tal pages. User:PheasantHunter/FullSig 12:00, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

My Niger edits

Just for the record, that was a screw up on my part, not an attempt at vandalism. I meant to end the white house website with .gov, not .org...I had no idea that parody site even existed. As a school librarian, I'm plagued by the white house .com site, which is a porno site. I will be more careful in the future. Maestro 10:17, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

All of us can make mistakes. I'm sure if you have good strong edits in the future that it will long be forgotten. Learn together 12:18, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Final Scores's taken a while, and I hope it's not too late, but I finally have the final scores. In the end, it came out 9618 for Team1 and 5384 for Team2. And you may want to know, the judge particularly said you and Fox "worked your tails off and made a Team 1 victory." (User talk:DeborahB., "Scores") So thanks for all your help! DeborahB. 23:38, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you, it was an honor working with everyone. I'm glad I could help my team... and of course Conservapedia ;-) Learn together 01:16, 27 July 2007 (EDT)



I changed again the formulation of the sentence about expats; I think "have left France" sounds like a definitive choice and is not an appropriate formulation.

Regards,Sporean 12:47, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Default Sort

Just curious to know what the "Default Sort" thing you're putting on the pages is doing...thanks! DeborahB. 19:56, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi Deborah. It changes how they're alphabetized. So an entry for Bill Clinton, instead of showing up under the "B"'s, can show up under the "C"'s, for Clinton. Hope that helps. ;-) Learn together 19:58, 30 July 2007 (EDT)
Yes, it does...thanks! I just kept seeing it and figured it had something to do with the proper way to do names (last, then first) but I just didn't know how. DeborahB. 20:01, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

Recent Edits

I changed them cause they were inaccurate. That's all. I'll get permission next time I am gonna change somefink.

No harm done, it's just a good habit to get into to discuss them in the talk section first. Thank you for taking the time to respond. Learn together 01:40, 2 August 2007 (EDT)


Bill, Andy asked me to take charge of the categories. Therefore I would respectfully ask you to refrain from reverting my edits, placing them. Okay? Is there some problem that made it impossible for you to communicate with me directly before doing so? There is a special Sand Box page I emailed you about, where ANY new categories are supposed to be discussed first. --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 06:53, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Actually my friend, I don't have an email with the sandbox page. Please send it to me. By the way, that wasn't a new category. I had noticed that there was both a "Probability and Statistics" and a "Statistics" category. I was attempting to consolidate based upon what already existed. Learn together 12:10, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
I am happy to help my friend. Learn together 15:52, 2 August 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for the welcome.

I look forward to contributing to conservapedia, especially on the heated topics of creationism & devilution.

--Rolloffle 14:44, 2 August 2007 (EDT)


Good catch. [8] --Ed Poor Talk 14:53, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

Are You My Mommy?

Or, at least, my "handler?" After the other night where you said TK told you come talk to me, I wasn't sure who to go to with stuff. On the off chance that you are, would you please take a look at User:Aziraphale/categories? That's where I post issues that, as a non-sysop, I can't fix. (And no, that wasn't a subtle hint, me no want-y the sysop-y :p) There's a template and a few categories that need a-fixin' at this point.

If you're not the person for me to talk to, please just let me know. I don't actively try to ruffle feathers. Thanks! Aziraphale 19:44, 16 August 2007 (EDT) <'re gonna break some eggs...

  • Hey, don't make me send some of the boys around to "talk to you" okay? If I am sending someone to talk to you, it was simply because I was tied up, and like the man said, I agreed with his request, and asked him to save me some time, is all....because I was tied up, ya know? If I was gonna give you a handler, it would be more like the Jazzman, or Big Ed. Oh, by the way, how's the family doin?  :p If you are wanting me to look at something, I need a message, see? I ain't a mind reader, or organized enough to go lookin, see? That's all. See? --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 20:29, 16 August 2007 (EDT)
If, however, you HAD passed me off to a handler, bothering you with this would have defeated the purpose. By doing it this way, the worst case scenario is that I ask a guy a question to which the answer is "no," and then I would go and ask you. By doing it your way, the worst case scenario was irritating you with something that you had already taken care of. Risk management, baby! Aziraphale 20:45, 16 August 2007 (EDT) <- never concentrate your troops in Australia...
ooOOOOooooohhhh... well that's a whole different kettle of fish. Aziraphale 10:43, 17 August 2007 (EDT) <-that's all I've got to say about that...


Thanks for the welcome. I like your user name. Can you tell me how to use the descriptive labels on your user page? I'd like some.-Baruch 23:31, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

you look like someone who knows how all this works ;) how do I put boxes on my own page? Todd

Hi Todd. I'd like find some boxes you like on someone's page, and copy and paste the template to your own page. That's all I did - nothing fancy. ;-) Learn together 22:38, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

I'm sorry to bother you, but where do you find the template? That must sound hopelessly dumb to you, but is it a link, or is it code? Also, how do I sing posts like you guys? I'm very new to this stuff. thanks! Todd16

They're templates. If you go to my user page and edit it, you'll see templates that I use. That's where the boxes on the right come from. They start with {{ Learn together 22:45, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
I see, thanks! --Todd16 22
59, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
Best wishes to you Todd. Have fun! There's lots of room for new articles or article growth. BTW, when you are finished typing your response on talk pages, type the tilda key ~ 4 times. That will do an automatic name and date signoff. Learn together 02:42, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Scoring a try in rugby

Hey Learn Together, how are you? I see you reverted my change to the rugby section of the football article. Not sure what you're trying to say, but it looks like you think that simply carrying the ball across the line gets you a try in rugby? It really doesn't! The player has to touch the ball onto the ground. In fact this rule can cause lengthy video referee consultations when multiple camera angles are used to determine whether the player got the ball on the ground or not.Ferret 19:58, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Hi, me again. This may help. Ferret 00:04, 8 September 2007 (EDT)
Well, I can give you a simple answer. If I reverted the rugby section then I was mistaken. I thought I was in the American Football area. Please feel free to put back if the section was dealing with rugby. Sorry. Learn together 01:28, 8 September 2007 (EDT)
A-ha! No problems, I already reverted it. :-) I'll also go and make the corresponding point in the American Football section. Ferret 02:16, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

St. Peter

Yes I agree, thanks.

How about collaborating in Conservative Links? That is a nice task for you. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:14, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

Per your request my friend, I have given my input. Hope you like it. Learn together 14:53, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
Done --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:29, 10 September 2007 (EDT)