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Ultimately "palestine" is about Islamization

Siegel was shot in the hand and his ribs were broken during the Oct. 7 attack. His wounds weren't treated until he was freed more than a year later. He said Hamas also tried to convert him to Islam. He was beaten at random and without warning, sexually assaulted, forced to watch as other hostages were beaten and assaulted, starved and humiliated, forced to make Hamas videos, spat on and forcibly shaved. He said he was kept alone in a locked room for six months. Keith Siegel recounts his Hamas captivity to foreign diplomats, AJC members Dianne3000 (talk) 04:32, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

He is from NC.

Hostage, NC native Keith Siegel released by Hamas on mission to lobby Trump, Israel to reach deal to free remaining hostages - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham. After 484 days in Hamas captivity, former hostage Keith Siegel finds purpose in his new mission. WABC.

..."In tunnels 130 feet underground, barely being able to breathe, gasping for my breath, for our breath. Deprived of food, water, and sanitation."... "I was kicked by terrorists, I was spat on by terrorists, cursed, just out of the blue with nothing that I had done that might provoke that"...
Of the remaining hostages, five are Americans, but just one -- 20-year-old Edan Alexander of Tenafly, New Jersey -- is still alive.

Telling (talk) 05:08, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

He is not the only one starving hostage whom they tried to convert.Dianne3000 (talk) 02:04, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

We might never know 'how' so many hostages were murdered...Telling (talk) 18:46, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

My latest on the Myanmar quake

Check it out: "After the quake, Myanmar prays." PeterKa (talk) 22:08, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

AOC is the Democratic frontrunner for 2028

Check it out: President AOC? Analysts Predict She's a Top 2028 Contender. PeterKa (talk) 06:34, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

Yes. First let us all see midterm elections results. There is also the Crockett an AOC wannabe maybe...Dianne3000 (talk) 23:39, April 23, 2025 (EDT)

Pope replacement?

This [1] one has a list and grades them..Dianne3000 (talk)

Thanks for the link, D.Telling (talk) 16:26, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Revolver is a great source. I'm glad we have somebody covering it. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:31, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

When the traitor Judas hung himself, they cast lots to pick his apostollic replacement (Acts 1:12-26). With that in mind, "On betting markets so far on Tuesday, Pietro Parolin, the current Vatican's secretary of state, is the leading candidate to succeed Pope Francis. He is followed by Luis Antonio Tagle, the former archbishop of Manila, and Peter Turkson of Ghana, who would be the first Black pope in modern history." - The next pope’s identity is a mystery. Betting markets have an idea who it will be., 2025. See also: Who will be the next Pope, Polymarket.com Conservative (talk) 16:52, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Oh really? Who choses Apostles, God or man? 1 Cor 9:1. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:56, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

"Pope Francis has appointed 108 of the 135 cardinals who are eligible to vote in a papal conclave, which means he has appointed 80% of the voting members. He has also created 163 cardinals in total, representing 76 countries."[2]

It would take a miracle for a dream Pope of conservatives to win, but miracles do happen! "Oh, we heard church people say. They are in the holy way. There are strange things happening everyday. Oh, the last man, judgment day. When they drive him all away. There are strange things happening everyday." - Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Strange Things Happening Every Day. Conservative (talk) 17:41, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

It would make sense if you understood what "conservative" means. It does not mean stupid & ignorant. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:27, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa certainly has the funniest name. Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea is an anti-woke dream candidate. PeterKa (talk) 08:47, April 23, 2025 (EDT)
Thanks Peter. Maybe he will change his name, like Francis did?Telling (talk) 10:39, April 23, 2025 (EDT)

Oligarchy AOC

Or: what is hypocrisy?

Socialists AOC, Bernie Sanders took $15K-per-hour private jet to attend ‘Fighting Oligarchy’ rally.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:50, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Remember that study saying America is an oligarchy? 3 rebuttals say it's wrong., 2016 - Ordinary citizens get what they want about half the time.

Senator Phil Gramm & The Myth of American Inequality, 2023 (Video). Conservative (talk) 15:05, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

This book that I bought is an excellent book: Equality: The Impossible Quest by Professor Martin Van Creveld. Conservative (talk) 15:07, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Book sounds interesting. Who is the author?Telling (talk)

Professor Martin Van Creveld's bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

Creveld's book is very interesting. It does have about two sentences of evolutionist bunkum, but the book is a very solid book. So don't let two sentences of that book dissuade you from buying it.

Creveld also authored this book which looks very interesting: The Privileged Sex: "Ever since Betty Friedan published The Feminine Mystique back in 1963, all of us have been told that women are discriminated against, oppressed, exploited, and abused by men. The barrage of accusations is intense, relentless, and seems to have neither beginning nor end. But are the charges true? Do women really have a worse time of it than men? This volume, one of the very few in any language, takes on these questions head on. Roaming far and wide, it examines many aspects of the problem as it has presented itself from the time of ancient Egypt right down to today’s most advanced Western societies. To anyone accustomed to the tsunami of feminist claims and complaints, the answers will come as a surprise."

Crevel's Privileged Sex 2013 book does seem to have been insightful. If memory serves, more women now go to college than men (where they are indoctrinated in liberal/public universities). But maybe that is partly due to men going into the military and in professions that require brawn such as construction. Of course, men have more "Ma-Cheese-Mo" and that is why the GOP is more powerful now and the Democrats are in sad shape. :) One of the definitions of machismo is an exhilarating sense of power or strength.[3] :) Conservative (talk) 09:18, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

This is an area we evidently need to expand coverage of in the coming months: Vaughn Cordle: The Oligarchy Hoax: How Democrats use Marxist rhetoric to mask their elite power exposing the Left's manipulation of populist rhetoric to protect its oligarchic interests and control the narrative. [4] RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 09:43, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

Trump to meet The Atlantic...

This should be something to look forward to.Telling (talk) 18:44, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Because there are so many voters who are independents, Trump recognizes that it can be good to flood the information zone and that sometimes means being interviewed by liberal, moderate and conservative news sources. But you have to be skillful at being interviewed. But for conservatives, its often good to refuse to be interviewed by the press due to selective editing and/or dishonest reporters.

The Atlantic, like many publications, does have some good articles such as this one: The Peculiar Blindness of Experts. But it does lean left/liberal such as this article: Hitler’s Terrible Tariffs. Obviously, the unspoken propaganda is "Trump is Hitler! And Hitler loved tariffs! Tariffs are evil and bad!

The reality is that the strategic use of tariffs can result in good things happening as can be seen at: The REAL Reason the US Is Betting on Tariffs. Conservative (talk) 09:34, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

Palestinian leader Abbas curses US after getting '2.1 billion in American taxpayer-funded aid'

“May their father be cursed” – Mahmoud Abbas curses America twice in televised speech. We, suckers..Dianne3000 (talk) 16:57, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

Maybe a mother billion will do?Telling (talk) 18:02, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

Hermes bag

To quote Joseph Schumpeter:

“

Queen Elizabeth owned silk stockings. The capitalist achievement does not typically consist in providing more silk stockings for queens but in bringing them within reach of factory girls.

”

RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:58, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

The fake polls by pro Sanders group...

Greenfield:

People really need to stop falling for these fake polls.

People are absolutely convinced that the vast majority Jews vote for and support Democrats. Where do those numbers come from? Mostly Democrat polls like this.... Currently, JLI is headed by Joel Rubin, “a founding Board Member of the Jewish Democratic Council of America; the founding Political Director of J Street; a surrogate for the Obama 2012 campaign; the national Jewish Outreach Director for the Sanders 2020 presidential campaign; and a member of the Jewish teams for the Biden-Harris 2020 and Harris-Walz 2024 campaigns.”

In short, a leftist anti-Israel activist who used to work for the Bernie ‘Destroy Israel” Sanders campaign.[5]Telling (talk) 18:03, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

I don't know if all of these polls are "fake". Some could just be incompetent or unreliable because they don't use polls based on likely voters which are more expensive to conduct. You have to be more ingenuous/flexible via indirect methods and use a wider variety of the types of polling to capture the hidden Trump/conservative voters which are more difficult to poll. For example, ask questions on how they think their neighbors are going to vote so the demonization of Trump is mitigated in the polling. Conservative (talk) 09:49, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

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-== Latest from Islamic bloc OIC occupied UN: Qatar sits on.. women status LOL ==
-The bitter joke[https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2025/04/the-unbelievable-absurdity-of-qatar.html The unbelievable absurdity of Qatar joining the UN Commission on the Status of Women]. And [https://www.jns.org/un-watch-denounces-qatar-inclusion-in-un-womens-commission “The inmates are running the asylum”].[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 11:58, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:The criminals as judges. Sad. Who's next, ISIS?. It's like [[CAIR]] advising on combating antisemitism.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 21:00, April 16, 2025 (EDT)
-== Update: the smart move to isolate China ==
-The latest, 90-day pause on most, but not in China. Is smart. Not Just for being no.1. But it weaknes the anti-Trump stand intl. Here are more suggestions. [https://x.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1910043819023757637]. (Of course, we don't have anything against the Chinese people, needless to say. It's about the leadership's policies).[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:46, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:The next moves apparently are de-listing Chinese companies on US stock exchanges, followed by reciprocal retaliation by China. It's essentially an irreconcilable, messy divorce now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 15:51, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:'''Question''': Will Chinese companies move manufacturing plants to Vietnam, Indonesia, etc for lower labor costs and better trade relations with the US, instead of Trump's wish for them to move here? (Apparently, the only manufacturers moving from China to the US are American companies retuning home, like Apple, Microsoft, etc. This is the danger of the trade war, originally aimed at China, spreading). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 15:57, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-What us more certain is, more US companies will move to Vietnam,  if Chinese Govt. doesn't fold.  Plus, watch O'Leary[https://www.tmz.com/watch/kevin-o-leary-china-tariffs-04-09-2025/]...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:01, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:O'Leary's comments are very well put. He summarizes the whole feud in less than 2 minutes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:12, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-::Yes. And that, coming from a Canadian...
-[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 21:57, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-Prices of pharmaceuticals and electronics set to skyrocket. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:31, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
-:Update: Trump exempts electronics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 09:42, April 17, 2025 (EDT)
-===Meanwhile...===
-The [[tariff]] issues and [[Iran]] tensions is a good diversion from the catastrophic defeat of [[NATO]] on the battlefield. It appears Trump & Putin have an agreement - Putin will blame [[Biden]] for the whole mess, and Trump will be made to look like [[Ike]], who ended the [[Korean War]]. Meantime, Russia may grab [[Odessa]], [[Dnipropetrovsk]], [[Kharkov]] & [[Sumy]], adding 3 or 4 million people to the [[Russian Federation]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 23:57, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-Trump is being compared to [[Yeltsin]], who saw the handwriting on the wall for the Soviet Empire. Likewise, Trump sees the writing on the wall for the [[American Empire]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 00:00, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
-== Tucker should stick to domestic issues ==
-This[https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/04/09/iranian-state-media-boosts-tucker-carlsons-comments-opposing-us-military-action-condemning-neocons/ look who promotes him] is getting old.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 17:57, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:Yes, and the term "neocon" Tucker uses is ridiculously passe, you have more liberals hawkish on European arena. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
-::Russia likely has an [[S-500]] or S-550 system set up in Iran, manned by Russians to enter the coordinates like NATO [[HIMARS]] in Ukraine with Iranians standing close by to hit the launch button, just waiting to take a shot at a [[B-2]] bomber. When a B-2 gets shot down, then what happens? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:31, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:::Tucker hit a low in Sep/2024 in [https://www.jpost.com/international/article-818792 that] choice of interview... And now, he is hindering in the maximum pressure on the mullahs when Trump tries so hard to extract a deal[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 18:43, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-::(ec) The threatened or anticipated B-2 strikes would be "stand off" strikes, i.e. launched from over the water and not directly over the land target with gravity bombs (kinda like Russia's use of [[glide bomb]]s outside Ukraine aerial defense systems.) Does the US have a precision guided [[cruise missile]] with big enough warhead to go more than 800km? I doubt it. Either way the S-500 (even the [[S-400]]) would knock it out first.
-::But this wouldn't necessarily stop the US from testing, wanting to see the capabilities and reliability of the S-500, albeit risking the loss of a B-2 in the process. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:49, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-::The bigger the fuel tank (either liquid or solid fuel) on a standoff [[cruise missile]], the smaller the warhead, and [[vice versa]] (unless you're gonna arm it with a [[nuke]]).
-::This is why Trump's threats all look like bluff, to be resolved beginning with talks this Saturday. Does Trump want the US to go 0-3, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Iran, in the space of 3 short years? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:06, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-:::Now there's two wildcards here: reports indicate that [[NATO]]/US did manage to destroy an [[S-400]] system in [[Crimea]] that couldn't evacuate quick enough, and another report indicated that Russia did on fact [[combat]]-test the [[S-500]] system once in Crimea. This is what the game is all about - forcing the other side to show their hand so that you can develop countermeasures.
-:::Recall, during the [[Kosovo war]], the primitive [[Serbian]] spearchuckers shot down the vaunted $500 million Stealth fighter with an [[S-300]], making that version of the Stealth fighter obsolete so that none further have been built ever since. We went on to develop the ever-more expensive Stealth Raptor once the earlier version's vulnerabilities were discovered. And the [[S-300]] now has been converted into just another battlefield [[artillery]] piece. My fear is, all this saber-rattling on both sides is just another real-life experiment of their latest toys leading to an ever more expensive arms race.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:30, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
-*No need to link the two. What is the connection between Putin and the Islamic Republic annihilation planned nukes?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 07:06, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
-:The January 17, 2025 Strategic Partnership Agreement. [http://www.kremlin.ru/supplement/6258 See Article 10]. And then we have this: [https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-849217#google_vignette Russia, China and Iran to hold consultations on Iranian nuclear program on Tuesday, RIA says], Apr 7, 2025. Some are interpreting this to mean Russia & China are intervening with Trump to tell him "It's ok, Iran is not working to build a nuke and agrees to abide by existing agreements. We are monitoring". IOWs, both Russia & China have an interest in nuclear non-proliferation. If Iran were to pursue a nuke, it would breach the Jan 17 Strategic Partnership agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 07:41, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
-:''Breaking'': Putin arranged the US-Iran talks in Oman. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup>
-===Trump's weakness===
-Trump calls Xi Jinping & Putin his "friends", and in both cases openly asks for summit meetings to address denuclearization, war, and trade. Critics say these summits are to fuel his [[ego]] as a bigshot, hobnobbing with world leaders. All Putin & Xi need to do is refuse to meet or talk with him.
-And if Putin & Xi successfully isolate Trump by refusing his wishes, all that's left for Trump and his successor President Vance, President AOC or whoever is to continue the [[neocon]] [[foreign policy]] of [[Joe Biden]], calling [[Putin]] a "corrupt kleptocrat" and Xi an "authoritarian dictator". And waging [[war]]s we can't possibly win. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 00:03, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
-*[https://youtu.be/L2R2aEvWmuA As U.S. Demands China To Negotiate, Beijing’s Dramatic RMB Pivot Just Flipped Everything].
-== ISLAMIZATION: [[CAIR]]-[[Muslim Brotherhood]] lobby's politicians : “Total domination even if it takes a 100 year". ==
-Bob @Shariakill
-<blockquote>CAIR/Muslim brotherhood has Muslim politicians training courses call JETPAC
-They're creating a “SQUAD” in every state
-“Total domination even if it takes a 100 year".</blockquote>
-[https://twitter.com/Shariakill/status/1909447486835487048] At least some are open about it.  Less Taqyyia [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 06:32, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
-:[[Conservapedia]] has laid down quite a foundation for [[Islam]], impugning [[atheist]]s as "the enemies of God". In discussion with the author, it doesn't matter who that "god" is, Zues, Odin, Allah or whoever. So long as a person has a pretense toward piety, religiosity, and "faith", then they are not "enemies of god". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 00:50, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
-:In short, [[Conservapedia]] has become "[[Islam]]ized" - dividing the world between "the people of god" and the "enemies of god", deserving to be killed. (And by killing God's enemies, you're doing God a favor and earning brownie points). There is no "[[Christian]] compassion" in it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 01:01, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
-== Among those, who won't be able to sit at the Seder... ==
-See clip... <i>Rose 🎗 @RoseBlo55om:
-The Palestinazis murdered this lovely family with their bare hands.
-The Palestinazis are monsters in human...
-Never forget the Bibas. 🟧</i>
-Mar 18, 2025.
-[https://x.com/RoseBlo55om/status/1902089201148928011 link][[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:22, April 11, 2025 (EDT)
-: Truly heartbreaking.  Enjoy the holiday dear Dianne.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:26, April 11, 2025 (EDT)
-::That is very gracious. Same to you.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 06:38, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-==US-Iran Negotiations: Why an Agreement Looks Unlikely==
-[https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/04/us-iran-negotiations-why-an-agreement-looks-unlikely.html]
-Personally, I'm still optimistic for a positive outcome to avoid war with Iran and this piece paints Trump as too much of a [[warmonger]]. But it is an important read for balance.
-One note: Trump misrepresented the talks as "direct". They are not direct. The two delegations meet in separate rooms. If by chance they decide to meet face-to-face during the negotiations, that would be a positive outcome. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 09:03, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
-Another not very optimistic assessment: [https://youtu.be/eVg-9EKLuqY On the Path to War with Iran] - [[Alastair Crooke]], [[Alexander Mercouris]] & [[Glenn Diesen]].
-==Where does this term "interventionalism" come from that has been [[spammed]] into more than a dozen pages on [[Conservapedia]]?==
-[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=interventionalist&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns120=1&ns121=1&ns122=1&ns123=1&ns124=1&ns125=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&profile=advanced The proper spelling is "interventionism"] (no "'''al'''" in the middle).
-While though seemingly minor, it's only one example of [[User:Conservative]]'s refusal to engage in constructive discussion about his editing, as well as the problem of fixing Mainspaces with his [[spam]] & [[blather]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:31, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
-==What happened==
-[[Trump]] "hammered [[China]] with [[tariff]]s", to use [[User:Conservative]]'s phrase that he [[spammed]] into dozens of Mainspace and talk pages over many months. Hammering China with tariffs lasted about 48 hours. Trump ratcheted it up to 145%. China reciprocated with 125% on all US goods. Then Trump exempted electronics. China has not rescinded its 125% tariffs on all [[US]] made goods.
-So Trump says, "we'll negotiate". Well, Xi has no intention to call Trump. Trump is now isolated. Only [[Putin]] is willing to talk to Trump. Putin can relay messages back and forth with Xi. In fact, it was Putin's idea and Putin set up the Iran-US talks, which maybe we can avert [[war]].
-The [[coalition]] is beginning to fray. With nitwits like [[User:Conservative]] as spokesmen for the [[conservative movement]], can't blame [[voter]]s for bailing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 16:37, April 13, 2025 (EDT)
-So what happens next? Suppose you are someone whose [[job]] depends on selling to [[China]]. The boss comes to you with a pink slip and says, "Son, I'm sorry. We're going to have to lay you off. We're just not selling anything anymore (it's that idiot Trump's fault)". These people are your friends, relatives, and neighbors. What do you tell them? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:01, April 13, 2025 (EDT)
-:Trump's first round of tariffs on April 2 was about nostalgia for the manufacturing economy. That's a lost cause. Then Trump pivoted and made it all about China. But what does he want from China? If it's about opening the Chinese market, that won't be easy. Trump tried doing that in his first term without success. You can't appeal to Chinese public opinion. That doesn't exist. The Chinese people "follow the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party," as the Constitution puts it. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 08:13, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::It's the same problem American exporters always had: Few can afford to pay the [[inflated]] high wages of American workers (which include the costs of [[Obamacare]], maternity leave for [[gay married]] people, etc.). It seems only the [[military industrial complex]] thrives on exports. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:13, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::Bad news for the [[MIC]]: [https://invezz.com/news/2025/04/15/china-halts-boeing-jet-deliveries-amid-rising-us-china-trade-tensions-report-says/ China halts Boeing jet deliveries amid rising US-China trade tensions, report says].
-::Boeing = duel use
-::Recall, when [[Deng Xiaoping]] visited the US at the start of restoration of relations in 1979, his No.1 destination he requested to visit was the Boeing plant in Seattle. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:30, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::Is the reindustrialization of the USA a lost cause? China is the workshop of the world and its fertility rate is 1.18 children per woman. Robotization/AI are both progressing. The world is likely going to have to replace the workshop of the world given its super low fertility rate and its vehement dislike of foreigners immigrating to their country. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:34, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-:::But it will take from planning/effort/time to reindustrialize the USA: [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Economics_and_investing#USA_manufacturing USA manufacturing/reindustrialization]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:10, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::::It won't be done in 4 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 11:27, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::::And you can thank Baby Bush, Bill Frist, and that [[pedophile]] Denny Hastert for the present state of affairs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 11:30, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-::[[User:Conservative]]: Your boy [[George Friedman]] trashes [[Trump]] and [[Trump tariff]]s, says Trump doesn't know what he's doing or talking about. [https://youtu.be/o0YJSEMy0sc]
-::You ready to get off that [[neocon]] [[globalist]] [[Biden]] [[Nazi]] horse you've been riding for 3 years yet?
-===[[USAID]]-funded ''[[Kyiv Independent]]'': [[Zelensky]]: '[[Russian]] narratives are prevailing in [[US]]'===
-[[User:Conservative]]: Get a clue. The [[truth]] will prevail. Your 3 year [[trolling]] spree on behalf of [[Biden]] is failing. [https://kyivindependent.com/the-security-of-the-world-is-at-stake-trump-should-visit-ukraine-zelensky-says/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:05, April 14, 2025 (EDT)
-:[[User:Conservative]]: Apparently you and [[Trump]] are not on the same song sheet: [https://kyivindependent.com/trump-dismisses-zelenskys-proposal-to-buy-10-patriot-systems-blames-him-for-starting-war/ "You don't start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles".] Why do you persistently claim Putin started the [[war]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:00, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-==Singapore==
-*[https://youtu.be/Io1G_5I7a-0 Singapore PM Wong ROARS At Trump Tariffs, Shockwaves In U.S. & Europe ; 'Not Scared Of...'].
-Wow. I thought [[Singapore]] was the Promised Land. In the absence of real discussion, [[User:Conservative]] has [[spammed]], for 3 years running, how marvelous Singapore is compared to the other subhuman [[Asian]]s like the [[atheist]] [[Communist]] [[Chinese]] or the [[AIDS]] infected [[alcoholic]] Russians who [[crap]] in plastic bags like the [[Greenland]]ers do and have as many [[gay bath houses]] in the whole country as [[San Francisco]] has on one city block.
-This is what passes for "intelligent" discussion" in [[Conservapedia]] - actually, not "discussion". You just [[spam]] over and over and over again, daily the same 5,000 bytes of [[USAID]] [[propaganda]] over and over and over again in articles, on discussion pages, on user talk pages, and in the sysop email list.
-This news item made me think of [[User:Conservative]] immediately:
-*[https://abc7ny.com/post/nypd-searching-suspect-accused-sex-corpse-nyc-subway-station-lower-manhattan/16152820/ Man accused of sex with a corpse on NYC subway train]. Do you suppose the homeless in Russia or China who die in subways are at risk of being sexually assaulted? This is the level of intelligent discussion [[User:Conservative]] has brought [[Conservapedia]] to. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:57, April 13, 2025 (EDT)
-== Socialist-Cody-Balmer - the murderer attacking Shapiro's family after Seder.. ==
-Can you find on MSNBC that Balmer is a socialist???
-"Josh Shapiro survives deadly arson attack—now the left must own the culture of political violence it created." By Post Editorial Board. April 14, 2025.
-[https://nypost.com/2025/04/14/opinion/josh-shapiro-survives-fire-assassination-attemptthe-left-must-own-the-culture-of-political-violence-it-created/][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 21:45, April 14, 2025 (EDT)
-:Thanks for posting this. I didn't follow the story that closely. Thanks again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 22:09, April 14, 2025 (EDT)
-::Thanks Telling, while the left tried to portray Cody as if someone from the right.. MSNBC's Sanders attempts to pivot[https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/04/15/msnbcs-sanders-we-dont-know-motives-of-shapiro-attacker-but-trump-ratcheted-the-temperature-up/]. This conservative outlet [[OPN]] spells it out: [https://www.theohiopressnetwork.com/news/us/socialist-suspect-arrested-after-attack-on-pennsylvania-governor-s-home/article_67e7cb10-31a1-4ad5-a349-5baf6313fd6a.html 'Socialist’ Suspect Arrested After Attack on Pennsylvania Governor’s Home][[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 10:32, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-:::[https://www.wgal.com/article/pennsylvania-governor-arson-attack-cody-balmer-palestine-search-warrant/64502014 Man accused of arson attack at Pa. governor’s residence referenced Palestine in 911 call, docs say].[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])[[File:Cody Balmer.jpg|275px]]
-::Many on the left put all of their personal eggs in the politics basket. So when politics started not going their way such as the first and second elections of Donald Trump, it was personally devastating to them. As a result, the left is getting crazier and crazier and more violent. In addition, radical individualism which the left is increasingly adopting, isn't good for people. As the Bible says, "It is not good for man to be alone". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:43, April 16, 2025 (EDT)
-:::Even after some leftist realizing, after losing on 5th of Nov, they overdid the woke agenda, some are still stubborn there. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 17:48, April 16, 2025 (EDT)
-::::Diane3000, politics is a quasi-religion to wokists. And they don't want to be heretics to wokism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:00, April 16, 2025 (EDT)
-==Think twice, Nazi==
-[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/think-twice-nazi-russias-medvedev-torches-germanys-merz/ Germany and the "coalition of the willing" are begging] for [[Wiesbaden]] to get [[Oreshnik]]ed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:14, April 15, 2025 (EDT)
-*[https://consortiumnews.com/2025/04/14/downplaying-ukraine-connection-in-latest-trump-plot/  Downplaying Ukraine connection in latest Trump assassination plot.]
-*[https://rumble.com/v6s4n6j-neo-nazi-satanic-plot-to-kill-trump-teen-charged-with-murdering-parents-sf5.html 'Neo-Nazi' Satanic Plot To KILL TRUMP! Teen CHARGED With Murdering Parents.]
-:[[User:Conservative]]: [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Conservative/International_relations/World_news_and_other_miscellaneous_information#Alexander_Solzhenitsyn_on_Ukraine_from_the_Gulag_Archipelago Are you going to stay in bed with the Nazis or finally get out?]
-== "Death to America" who threatened Tulsi - Aliakbar Mohammad Amin = fan of "The terrorist consumed [[Jackson Hinkle]]’s propaganda." ==
-"Death to America" who threatened Tulsi - ([[Islamism|Islamic]] terrorist) Aliakbar Mohammad Amin = fan of "The terrorist consumed [[Jackson Hinkle]]’s propaganda."
-If you look closely at the images, you’ll see he was viewing Hinkle’s “Legitimate Targets” account.[https://x.com/ryanmauro/status/1912276923578802303] Why am I not surprised?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 20:57, April 16, 2025 (EDT)
 == Ultimately "palestine" is about Islamization ==