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These problems have never been addressed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:10, November 10, 2025 (EST)
 
These problems have never been addressed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:10, November 10, 2025 (EST)
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:'''Summary:''' "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."
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:I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:45, December 18, 2025 (EST)

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Don't think Sean Hannity qualifies. He typically prefers less conservative guests, and has even been unfair to at least one real conservative.--Andy Schlafly 21:55, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

Sarah Palin

Added a few words before Sarah Palin since everyone else listed has (except for St. Paul). Not sure if Vice Presidential running mate in 2008 or former governor of Alaska or something else was the way to go, went with former governor (first thing listed on her page on conservapedia)

I agree...normal appellation should be last and highest office actually elected to. Good call! --ṬK/Admin/Talk 14:17, 7 December 2010 (EST)

A recommendation

I think it would really help illustrate the point if a table were drawn up that listed all of the characteristics of a movement conservative (pro-life, strong defense, pro-business, low taxes, 2nd amendment, Christian) and showed all of the movement conservatives filling out the list, then showed where different cafeteria conservatives fall. I don't think that I'm philosophically savvy enough to do this on my own. Any takers? --DrDean 15:16, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

Maybe a good list of people to look at would be the authors/editors of intellectually serious conservative publications, like First Things or Commentary magazine in the US, or Quadrant here in Australia. Although, it would probably be a somewhat unfair comparison, since authors and intellectuals have the luxury of holding to an intellectually pure position, while political leaders sometimes have to make real world compromises, and choose the possible over the perfect. Maratrean 00:38, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
Both suggestions above are good ones. That said, some might be surprised at how some of the authors of conservative publications are not entirely conservative.--Andy Schlafly 00:42, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Note

I recommend removing some people from the lists who are right-wing populists as opposed to movement conservatives. Populists on both sides of the political spectrum seem to reject fiscal conservatism. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 14:44, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

I disagree. I wouldn't necessarily say right-wing populists reject fiscal conservatism. They just are more moderate and populist in their support in it. Right-wing populists have expressed opposition to Biden's attempt to raise taxes for corporations and also supported Trump's cutting of income taxes in 2017. They just want to close tax loopholes for corporations and do not want to see the tax rate for those corporations fall too low. They are overall center-right on economics like Dwight D. Eisenhower and do not focus on the issue of taxation as much as other conservatives. This is to accommodate for their right-wing social views, and growing fears that big businessman are socially liberal and therefore need to be held in check while still following the course of an overall conservative economic policy. If nothing else, right-wing populism is full of movement conservatives, and more so than other mainstream "conservative" ideologies. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 18:58, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

"right-wing populist" is a liberal construct. RobSFree Kyle! 21:05, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

I agree that it is a liberal smear. I tend to use the term "national populist" instead, but since Liberaltears used the term right-wing populist here, I decided to use it in my response as well. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 21:20, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

Evidently the term "movement conservative" is evolving. What happened to John Bolton? He was one of the original six in the history of the planet who made the list before St. Paul. Where's the teamwork? RobSFree Kyle! 21:52, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

Houston, we got a problem

John Bolton was among the first to be considered a "movement conservative". Just being a hard-nosed a-hole does not make one a conservative.

Conservapedia was founded as a meritocracy, yet when an Admin called another Admin an "idiot" he was promoted for it.

These problems have never been addressed. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:10, November 10, 2025 (EST)

Why is it that many American conservatives don't believe in the concept of hate crimes?
Summary: "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 11:45, December 18, 2025 (EST)