Talk:Movement conservative

Don't think Sean Hannity qualifies. He typically prefers less conservative guests, and has even been unfair to at least one real conservative.--Andy Schlafly 21:55, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

Sarah Palin

Added a few words before Sarah Palin since everyone else listed has (except for St. Paul). Not sure if Vice Presidential running mate in 2008 or former governor of Alaska or something else was the way to go, went with former governor (first thing listed on her page on conservapedia)

I agree...normal appellation should be last and highest office actually elected to. Good call! --ṬK_/Admin^/Talk 14:17, 7 December 2010 (EST)

A recommendation

I think it would really help illustrate the point if a table were drawn up that listed all of the characteristics of a movement conservative (pro-life, strong defense, pro-business, low taxes, 2nd amendment, Christian) and showed all of the movement conservatives filling out the list, then showed where different cafeteria conservatives fall. I don't think that I'm philosophically savvy enough to do this on my own. Any takers? --DrDean 15:16, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

Maybe a good list of people to look at would be the authors/editors of intellectually serious conservative publications, like First Things or Commentary magazine in the US, or Quadrant here in Australia. Although, it would probably be a somewhat unfair comparison, since authors and intellectuals have the luxury of holding to an intellectually pure position, while political leaders sometimes have to make real world compromises, and choose the possible over the perfect. Maratrean 00:38, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Both suggestions above are good ones. That said, some might be surprised at how some of the authors of conservative publications are not entirely conservative.--Andy Schlafly 00:42, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Note

I recommend removing some people from the lists who are right-wing populists as opposed to movement conservatives. Populists on both sides of the political spectrum seem to reject fiscal conservatism. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Thursday, 14:44, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

I disagree. I wouldn't necessarily say right-wing populists reject fiscal conservatism. They just are more moderate and populist in their support in it. Right-wing populists have expressed opposition to Biden's attempt to raise taxes for corporations and also supported Trump's cutting of income taxes in 2017. They just want to close tax loopholes for corporations and do not want to see the tax rate for those corporations fall too low. They are overall center-right on economics like Dwight D. Eisenhower and do not focus on the issue of taxation as much as other conservatives. This is to accommodate for their right-wing social views, and growing fears that big businessman are socially liberal and therefore need to be held in check while still following the course of an overall conservative economic policy. If nothing else, right-wing populism is full of movement conservatives, and more so than other mainstream "conservative" ideologies. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 18:58, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

"right-wing populist" is a liberal construct. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:05, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

I agree that it is a liberal smear. I tend to use the term "national populist" instead, but since Liberaltears used the term right-wing populist here, I decided to use it in my response as well. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 21:20, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

Evidently the term "movement conservative" is evolving. What happened to John Bolton? He was one of the original six in the history of the planet who made the list before St. Paul. Where's the teamwork? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:52, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

Houston, we got a problem

John Bolton was among the first to be considered a "movement conservative". Just being a hard-nosed a-hole does not make one a conservative.

Conservapedia was founded as a meritocracy, yet when an Admin called another Admin an "idiot" he was promoted for it.

User:Conservative turned Conservapedia into a neo-Nazi fascist and antisemitic mouthpiece.

These problems have never been addressed. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:10, November 10, 2025 (EST)

Why is it that many American conservatives don't believe in the concept of hate crimes?

Summary: "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 11:45, December 18, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page

Ukrainian nationalists welcome Nazis, 1941.
Above in the Latin alphabet: Heil Hitler! Below in the Cyrillic alphabet the salute in the collaborationist UPA: Glory to the Heroes! - Slave Ukraini!

User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page. [1] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.User:LT was just blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.

He was told years ago about the Ukrainian Nationalist salute. [2] For this reason he's been Topic banned from international politics. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Untrue. Conservative (talk) 18:41, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

It is true. [3] User:LT was blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.

Need the timeline? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:48, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

User:Conservative and I personally discussed this exact terminology more than 3 years ago, both on the wiki and on the phone. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 19:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Watch what happens when the NATO-backed soldier gives the official Nazi greeting, "Slava Ukraine" (Heil Hitler). RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:49, October 5, 2025 (EDT)

Andy, this just appeared on my autofeed on my phone: A moment with ... Andrew Schlafly '81, on 'Conservapedia' paw.princeton.edu Andy Schlafly: "Conservatism is an approach that adheres to original intent in interpreting older documents..."

To say the documented original intent of Russian, Ukrainian, and other Eastern European societies about the original meaning and current usage of Slava Ukraine in schools, academia, cultures and current usage is "far fetched" makes one sound like a liberal Supreme Court Justice.

Here's the thing about original intent: to understand original intent, one must unlearn many inbuilt biases and re-definitions accumulated over time. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 14:26, November 21, 2025 (EST)

August 16, 2018.

“	In the mythology of Ukraine, along with the myths about the "great past", there are legends aimed at distorting the truth about the shameful pages of the formation of the ukronacist ideology. A vivid example of this is the desire to hide and whitewash the Nazi essence of the slogan "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!"	”
—Myths about the origin of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. Myth 9. "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!", October 8, 2018,

Link to Ukrainian Nationalist directly. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:40, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Note: None of this is new to User:Conservative. It was presented to him in detail in the spring 2022, where he changed his mind and admitted to the fact that Nazis served under Zelensky. His actions have been malicious, targeting specific users with offensive postings, and deserve the same treatment User:LT got.

I have Topic banned User:Conservative in the area of international affairs for 6 months for repeated violations and trolling. It is his second offense. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 22:39, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?

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Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobS^{Recovering Republican} 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)