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::::::"''take a crap''" Crude as ever. False. Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host dissolves and ceases to be the form of bread. We eat his flesh and drink his blood as he promised in John 6:32-58. We actually "partake of the divine nature" by receiving Christ Himself in Holy Communion (2 Peter 1:3-11). He remains in the body and soul of the communicant who receives Him, unless they deliberately cast Him out by mortal sin "unto death". But they can be restored by sincere repentance, and devout purpose of amendment to not sin again if possible, and confess their sin to one entrusted with the message of reconciliation as the ambassador of Christ who is authorized in Christ to absolve and forgive the eternal punishment of sin, as explained more completely in the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' citing abundant passages of scripture about the biblical doctrines of Sacramental Eucharist and Sacramental Penance and Reconciliation. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that makes the Church appear to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]] and [[falsehood]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. We checked for ourselves what Catholicism ''actually'' teaches, not what people ''say'' is Catholic teaching but the actual stuff, straight from the source, without misrepresentations, falsehoods and lies by people who are not Catholic or have a grudge against the Catholic Church and hate its spiritual authority as substantiated by the Bible. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine of the Church and sin against it is to speak against the Bible and sin against it and to speak against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever and sin against Him, is to sin against God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::::"''take a crap''" Crude as ever. False. Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host dissolves and ceases to be the form of bread. We eat his flesh and drink his blood as he promised in John 6:32-58. We actually "partake of the divine nature" by receiving Christ Himself in Holy Communion (2 Peter 1:3-11). He remains in the body and soul of the communicant who receives Him, unless they deliberately cast Him out by mortal sin "unto death". But they can be restored by sincere repentance, and devout purpose of amendment to not sin again if possible, and confess their sin to one entrusted with the message of reconciliation as the ambassador of Christ who is authorized in Christ to absolve and forgive the eternal punishment of sin, as explained more completely in the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' citing abundant passages of scripture about the biblical doctrines of Sacramental Eucharist and Sacramental Penance and Reconciliation. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that makes the Church appear to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]] and [[falsehood]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. We checked for ourselves what Catholicism ''actually'' teaches, not what people ''say'' is Catholic teaching but the actual stuff, straight from the source, without misrepresentations, falsehoods and lies by people who are not Catholic or have a grudge against the Catholic Church and hate its spiritual authority as substantiated by the Bible. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine of the Church and sin against it is to speak against the Bible and sin against it and to speak against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever and sin against Him, is to sin against God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::::::"authorized in Christ to absolve and forgive the eternal punishment of sin" - we've debunked ''the mediator other than Christ'' B.S. several times. When will you admit either you, God, or the Roman church is liar with this claim? Repent! [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 16:40, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::::::"authorized in Christ to absolve and forgive the eternal punishment of sin" - we've debunked ''the mediator other than Christ'' B.S. several times. When will you admit either you, God, or the Roman church is a liar with this claim? Repent! [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 16:40, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::::::"''take a crap''", hey sorry. ''I am all things to all people, that by all means I might save some'' while carrying out the commandment of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to preach to those in prison. But I suspect you find those parts of the bible "boring", too.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 16:21, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::::::"''take a crap''", hey sorry. ''I am all things to all people, that by all means I might save some'' while carrying out the commandment of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to preach to those in prison. But I suspect you find those parts of the bible "boring", too.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 16:21, 4 September 2020 (EDT)