Conservapedia:AFD Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine
Mass rapes by the Red Army in 1945 have absolutely nothing to do with alleged war crimes in Ukraine in 2022-2023 - other than to promote racism, xenophobia, and Russophobia.
I will remind you, NATO ally Germany became a full member of NATO in 1955, with many of the same Nazi leaders in command of the Bundeswehr. If the Russian Federation today can be accused and held responsible for crimes from World War II, surely NATO - including Finland - can be held responsible for Nazi atrocities. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:11, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Delete. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:11, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Keep. I decided to remove that section. I do like to create articles that gain search engine traffic and the Soviet war crimes in WWII in terms of the mass raping in Germany are not topically related. But Moscow did serve as the Soviet Union's capital as well as that of its largest and most populous republic: the Russian SFSR. However, it is not directly related to Russian War Crimes in Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 12:19, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Thank you for removing it. "Alleged" crimes, I assume you mean. I hope you learn something from this experience. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:22, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Keep. Essayspace is different from normal mainspace articles—for most circumstances, if you disagree with an essay, then create a counter-essay, as Conservative suggested in the intro of the very essay. Or just start a debate page. —
LTRev. 22:13 Friday, 12:21, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- If an Essay promotes racism and xenophobia, it can be removed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:23, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- And who determines that? You? I'm old enough to remember when you defended racist insertions into the mainspace by a troll last year. Hypocrisy! And you still expect me to stay on this decaying wiki? —
LTRev. 22:13 Friday, 12:24, September 8, 2023 (EDT)- Off topic. This isn't the place to discuss another page or article or question an editors integrity (and those edits were reviewed, and your claims found lacking). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:28, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- If all you have to offer are deflections when your own hypocrisy is exposed, then please don't expect me to support your witchhunt campaigns. And my claims were found lacking? Oh right, by you, who was intent on defending the white supremacy–propagating troll in the first place, as if your judgment was reliable. If you want to keep this up and alienate my presence from Conservapedia for good so I may spend my time on more productive life matters, go right ahead. —
LTRev. 22:13 Friday, 12:33, September 8, 2023 (EDT)- Well, this is what we have Template:Hide collapse for. If you got a gripe, bring up on a user page or a formal complaint at Conservapedia:Kangaroo Court. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:18, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- If all you have to offer are deflections when your own hypocrisy is exposed, then please don't expect me to support your witchhunt campaigns. And my claims were found lacking? Oh right, by you, who was intent on defending the white supremacy–propagating troll in the first place, as if your judgment was reliable. If you want to keep this up and alienate my presence from Conservapedia for good so I may spend my time on more productive life matters, go right ahead. —
- Keep. I think it is an important part of the whole picture. Unfortunately, some Russians seem to have some xenophobic pathology against Ukrainians, and thus are doing horrible things to them including War Crimes. That doesn't mean all Russians are bad, there surely are many Good Russians, they just don't have Full Freedom to express what they think, as at even the slightest sign of public disapproval of Putins Unjust War and War Crimes in Ukraine, you're liable to be thrown in jail in Russia for allegedly "discrediting the armed forces" when you're actually only discrediting the Putin regime. If you behave well, you have nothing to fear. If you commit War crimes, of course some people are going to call you out on it. If then you make any criticism of the invasion illegal, well that's just tyrannical. Anyway, I vote Keep because I think it's important perspective our readers need to know before they arrive at their own informed decision. They may agree or disagree, but they have a right to hear this information and thus make a decision based on full knowledge. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 13:06, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- The issue regards inclusion of World War II crimes for the defunct Soviet Union. But the issue seems resolved at the present time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:19, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
I think it would be a great idea to create a mainspace article Russian war crimes in Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 13:27, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Alleged war crimes. And as always, the sourcing will be on trial. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:30, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Trust me, I have read the entire Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal Indictment cover-to-cover, and feel qualified judge evidence.
- CNN & BBC will not be considered evidence. Even the Kyiv regime will have problems presenting evidence, due to its proven lack of credibility. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:33, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- If you actually believe in justice, as you claim, have at it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:35, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
- Who you gonna use for sources, the same people who cooked up the Russiagate conspiracy theory or engineered the covid bioweapon and operated 46 bioweapons plants in Ukraine? The same people behind 2024 Presidential election interference right now? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:40, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
Second nomination
Breaking: Trump to stop funding war crimes investigations in Ukraine - Reuters.
It's not like User:Conservative was not warned about the propaganda & brainwashing he was doing on behalf of the anti-Trump deep state. RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 21:16, February 10, 2025 (EST)
- Delete. Conservapedia is not a mouthpiece for Deep State propaganda and abuses. RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 23:57, February 10, 2025 (EST)
- Where was the "Evidence-based thinking" in creation of this neocon propaganda? or NOT retitling the piece to "alleged war crimes", as any rational thinker would know and do? RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 14:18, February 11, 2025 (EST)
- User:Conservative: Is your argument now that Trump is an apologist and appeaser for alleged Russian war crimes? This Essay should at least be Moved to Essay:Alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine.
- That would go a long way to alleviating User:Conservative's reputation for bigotry and the disrepute he brought on Conservapedia. RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 18:37, February 13, 2025 (EST)
- Is this Conservapedia policy now?
- Why can't User:Conservative & Brian figure out it was the same people who brought you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax and the J6 insurrection hoax are the same people who brought you the "Russian unprovoked aggression hoax"? RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 19:26, February 13, 2025 (EST)
- This essay, as is, can be considered anti-Trump. Critics will say even Trump's most conservative and staunchest supporters disagree with making peace with Putin (and swallow wholesale USAID-funded BBC and AP propaganda). This essay, as it is titled, is a ticking time bomb. It should at least be Moved to "alleged war crimes".
- In addition to criticizing Trump, more fair-minded critics will say this is more evidence of how stupid and uninformed conservative writers are. RobSI don’t really care, Margaret 18:24, February 15, 2025 (EST)