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Comic Book Character Religions

Dear Professor Schlafly,

This website,, has information about comic book heroes' religions dating back to when they were first created and printed; though it might not interest you in particular, it is quite revealing. It's no surprise that so many of the popular superheroes like Superman and Captain America and Spider Man are Christians while many of the villains are atheists. KatrinaE 20:25, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

conservapedia internal email

Andy, the Conservapedia internal email no longer seems to be working as can be seen here: Is this due to a software update of the wiki software or is it due to Conservapedia deciding to no longer have this feature or the feature accidentally being removed? Conservative 20:39, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

Indeed, if you look at your preferences, it seems every email related feature has been disabled server side.--CamilleT 21:12, 7 July 2011 (EDT)
It's turned off for now, but could easily be restored in the future. This feature seems contrary to the spirit of a wiki.--Andy Schlafly 22:03, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

Please give us your input

Dear Mr. Schlafly, please give us your input on this discussion. It's become clear that outside intervention will be required to get guidance on an editorial policy regarding YEC. I would also appreciate it you would admonish your admin "Conservative" to hold his tongue when it comes to impugning other faiths. Catholics are Christians. We are "Biblical". This anti-Catholicism from "Conservative" is highly offensive and will do even more than his absurd pictures with offensive captions and harassing of people he doesn't like in keeping people I recommend to the site away. If you're unwilling to at least state what the editorial policy on YEC is, please close my account. Thank you. Nate 00:07, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Nate, you are the one who started the spirited debate with me. I do think reflects poorly on you that you are now complaining about the evidence I brought forth to counter your contentions. I simply demonstrated that since the post Vatican II/1960's Catholic theologians have become more liberal. Evolutionism is false liberal ideology founded by the atheist Charles Darwin. You didn't provide me any evidence that my claim in this matter is false. Next, the notion that all religious faiths are equal and contain just as much truth as another is another facet of liberal ideology so your request for the suppression "of my tongue" also reflects poorly on you. I would suggest in the future that if you wish to contend with others in the public forum that you complain less about the consequences. Conservative 01:14, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
Sir, what you think you've "demonstrated" is irrelevant to whether the editorial policy of this website requires other approaches than YEC to be accurately and fairly described, and whether you've crossed the line with your discussion of the Catholic Church and should be instructed to keep your noxious slanders to yourself. I don't know or care what you think is "liberal" about the Catholic Church, as if "liberal" is a code word for "bad". You've done nothing but make irrelevant and unsubstantiated assertions here, the most galling being your claim that your approach is more "Biblical". Worse, you're doing it again. Under the circumstances, I take your claim that all religious faiths are not equal as an implicit claim that your Calvinist religion contains more truth that my Catholic faith. I'm sure you believe that, "Conservative," but you're making it abundantly clear that you're not capable of cooperating on a wiki site with your sneering jabs. I am quite certain that you are the only person on Earth that believes anything I've said in this discussion reflects poorly on me or that you've provided evidence of anything other than your own character. Why should I complain less at the consequences of contending with you in a public forum when you're out of control, debate just awfully, exhibit some of the most base cowardice I've seen, and won't even cooperate with other administrators like RobSmith? This isn't about me. Don't try to distract the issues and if you've got nothing productive to say don't say anything at all. Nate 01:36, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
Nate, I think you owe me the courtesy of not attributing to me positions I have never taken. I have never inserted pro-Calvinism material at Conservapedia. I have not inserted anti-Calvinism material either. I haven't taken a position on Calvinism. Please show me where I have taken a position on Calvinism. Next, I am the primary author of CP's evolution article and I provided abundant evidence through the material and sources I provided that evolution is false ideology. Also, I don't think we are going to engage in productive dialogue because you appear unwilling to adequately address the evidence I have brought forth that evolution is false and that the Roman Catholic Church has embraced a lot of false liberal ideology post 1960s and has faced significant consequences as a result. Next, RobS just put a animated gif that I use on one of my anti-evolution satires on his user page and RobS and I have a very cordial relationship with RobS. Next, although I have not shrunk from talk page debates in the past, I do think I can better serve CP by creating content and not by engaging editors who fail to address evidence I bring forth. Unfortunately, this means that I have no desire to communicate further with you until your conduct changes. Lastly, there are a number of opportunities that have presented themselves as of late off wiki that I am remiss in not pursuing despite my good intentions to do so. I do think my time would be better spent pursuing these opportunities to a greater degree rather than engage with an obstinate person such as yourself. Conservative 03:25, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

New namespaces

Is there a the technical go-to person who could created new namespaces? Once I left a messages at User:CPWebmaster's talkpage, but he never answered. I think there is a consensus that there should be a debate and an essay namespace. Though it doesn't seem to be to complicate to create custom namespaces, some effort has to be taken to save those pages which are already prefixed essay: and debate: - a problem which doesn't arise for a new namespace for the Conservapedia Bible Project. For this I'd like to have a namespace CBP: it's common to abbreviate the translations of the Bible in this way (KJV,NIV, etc.)

Once the CBP namespace is created, we can fill it with verses as stated above. For those verses of the O.T. which haven't been translated yet, one could use the verses of the KJV, perhaps in a different color. Example:

Isaiah 38:8: CBP:Isaiah 38:8

AugustO 10:38, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

P.S.: Thanks for the unblock: I hope all misunderstandings have been resolved. AugustO

There was a debate about creating new namespaces on this site a few years ago. The convenience of a wiki is partly due to its centralized location, and splintering off separate namespaces is contrary to that.--Andy Schlafly 16:02, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
There was a debate about creating new namespaces on this site a few years ago. Was it on-wiki? If so, could you link to this debate? I can't find it. Perhaps the circumstances have changed and the matter should be discussed anew...
The convenience of a wiki is partly due to its centralized location, and splintering off separate namespaces is contrary to that. Surely more structure has to be preferred over centralization...
But I want to make the case especially for the new namespace CBP. What are the advantages of such a namespace?
  • The project becomes more easily quotable. {{:CBP:Isaiah 38:8}} gives you the whole verse
  • Different versions of a translation won't exist, all quoted verses would be up-to-date
  • if you look at CBP:Isaiah 38:8, you'll find the verse in red. I used this to indicate that this isn't an actual CBP translation, but the placeholder from the KJV.
  • the CBP can be searched more effectively: while I assume that the default search should include the usual namespaces (at the moment that is just main) and the CBP, one could search the CBP on its own, rather like having a concordance: at the moment, gives you every single mentioning of shroud at Conservapedia - especially in quoted verses throughout the whole wiki. How nice would it be to be able to search for this word (or behold ;-) ) in the CBP only? And the result of such a query would be a list of the actual Bible verses in which the word occurs (like CBP:John 20:6), not only pages which are comprised by a couple of chapters (like John 15-21 (Translated))!
As for an essay and debate namespace: the pseudo-namespaces look clumsy - it's User talk:Aschlafly, but it's Talk:Essay:Comedy and satires concerning atheism and evolution
AugustO 10:15, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

CBP:John 20:1CBP:John 20:2 I improved the presentation: now the number of the verse is linked to the verse itself, where you will find the current translation - as the KJV and links to the previous and next verses (have a try!) Really, though it will take some effort to create these verses in a separate namespace, I think it will help to improve the visibility (and usability) of the CBP. AugustO 10:38, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

I think it would be helpful if you gave User:SharonW picture upload rights.

Andy, I think it would be helpful if you gave User:SharonW picture upload rights. Conservative 01:25, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the attempt! SharonW 19:15, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
Sharon, sorry I didn't resolve this sooner, but uploading privileges are earned based on merit. User:Conservative's recommendation is helpful and I'll also review your edits. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly 20
29, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
Hi - I was wondering if you've had a chance to review my edits yet? Thanks! SharonW 14:54, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Edited to add - and if you don't think I'm ready for it yet, what else can I do to improve?

If the Newark Star-Ledger employer wants me to provide her assistance

If [the Newark Star-Ledger] wants me to provide her assistance, let me know. :) Clearly, she needs someone to help her. :) Conservative 10:30, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

To be more precise, for example on the subject of homosexuality and murders, while I cited a police commander with a masters degree and top forensic doctors, forensic journals/forensic textbook material, all she could do is become indignant that her liberal cacoon was pierced. No rebutting facts, just argument by liberal hysterics. It's no wonder their blog traffic has taken such a precipitous decline according to Compete and Quantcast. The liberal pablum they try to feed their market clearly isn't cutting the mustard and people are going elsewhere. Conservative


Hey Andy, I'm quasi-new here at Conservapedia but I would like to take the time to tell you how great this site is. I think it's great that we conservative Christians can finally repudiate the awful liberal, atheist bias that pervades this great country and promote the true values that we know are right. I've really come to fully appreciate that all the undeniable evidence science have gathered that proves beyond a doubt that evolution is real is just an abominable ploy by those liberal atheist pseudoscientists to pervert the true nature of God and His creations. But I digress. Anyway, I have a couple questions that I would be honored if you could answer... 1) My son has unfortunately become a staunch atheist and I was wondering if you could give me some advise as to how to turn him back to the light of Christianity. 2) I've had a keen interest in demographics and statistics lately and I noticed an obvious trend that disturbed me a little. Obviously a liberal, atheist lifestyle will lead to terrible things such as obesity, divorce, and the like, but the Bible Belt of the south, so famous for their conservative, Christians ways (as well they should be) has the highest rates in the country for things like divorce, obesity, STDs, teen pregnancy, single parent homes, infant mortality, and even murder. I was wondering if you could tell me how the most conservative, Christian area in the country could have such liberal, atheistic statistics. If you could answer these questions for me I greatly appreciate it (if your time permits). I'm a little worried for my son. Thanks. BobSherman 21:01, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Bob, I would suggest reading some books on statistics and learning about multi-variable analysis. I would also suggest reading more history about atheism and adherents of biblical Christianity. Conservapedia has a recommended reading list for its Atheism and mass murder article for example. You should also consider reading Conservapedia's articles after doing that. I think if you do that you will have a hard items showing that becoming a Christian is a causal factor for the items you raised. Secondly, I would suggest being an example, praying for your son, and witnessing to him. Conservative 21:13, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
Conservative, thank you very much for your suggestions (although I'm not sure "I think if you do that you will have a hard items showing that becoming a Christian..." is grammatically correct and I'm not exactly sure what you meant by that). I would like, however, for Andy himself to present his view on both my questions, but thank you anyway. I have tried, actually, praying for him and leading by example for a while now but he seems to think it preposterous. His pro-atheistic arguments can be quite difficult to counter at times. BobSherman 21:28, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
It seems that "items" is a typo of "time" here. MeganH 21:24, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
Bob, I am getting the distinct impression you are deceitful atheists posing as a concerned Christian parent. I am sure you can understand my doubts about your post after reading Atheism and deception. And often, a member of a certain group is often the best at spotting a counterfeit member. I was told by a certain Conservapedian that I have a knack for spotting the counterfeits and my abilities have increased with experience. Sad to say Bob, but I am betting on you being an atheist. But show me wrong, please write an article about Soviet atheism. In fact, this is an article that you and your son can write together. Conservative 21:33, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
What difference does it matter if he's an atheist, the demons beleve and tremble (James 2:19). And you seem to be using atheist in a pejorative sense. CP does not allow incivility and personal attacks. Rob Smith
To make you happy, I outlined the article for Soviet atheism. I do not consider myself an expert on atheism in the USSR so it's not a particularly comprehensive article. Frankly, after your accusations, I do not feel inclined to do extensive research for Soviet atheism and I would suggest you don't jump to such conclusions about your fellow conservatives in the future. BobSherman 22:02, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
Given your above claims, I would suggest that you and your son develop a more informative article on Soviet atheism including acts of repression, etc. etc. If your son does not currently have research skills, this would be an excellent project for you and your son - especially since you said you wanted for him to leave atheism. I look forward to seeing a robust Soviet atheism article produced by you and your son. Godspeed. Conservative 22:35, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

By the way, here are some books you and your son can read together and can use for sources for your upcoming article:

  • Dimitry Pospielovsky, (December, 1987), A History of Marxist-Leninist Atheism and Soviet Antireligious Policies, Palgrave Macmillan, ISBN 0312381328
  • Dimitry Pospielovsky, (November, 1987), Soviet Antireligious Campaigns and Persecutions (History of Soviet Atheism in Theory and Practice and the Believers, Vol 2), Palgrave Macmillan, ISBN 0312009054
  • Dimitry Pospielovsky, (August, 1988), Soviet Studies on the Church and the Believer's Response to Atheism: A History of Soviet Atheism in Theory and Practice and the Believers, Vol 3, Palgrave Macmillan, hardcover: ISBN 0312012918, paperback edition: ISBN 0312012926 Conservative 22:43, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Upload request

Can you please upload this image for use in global warming related articles? Thanks. MeganH 21:13, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

A request...

Hi Andy,

Hope things are going well for you. With the numerous legal issues relating to the Constitution that have come up recently--for instance, the issue of what constitutes a natural born citizen, or the possibility of the President invoking the Fourteenth Amendment in order to circumvent Congress and raise the debt ceiling unilaterally--it occurred to me that it would be both informative and helpful to have an acknowledged authority in the field of Constitutional law provide insight on these matters.

I realize that your schedule is likely extremely busy, but do you think it would be possible for you to devote some time to such analysis? Your experience and study in this field is formidable, and I, for one, would very much enjoy reading your commentary.


--Benp 22:20, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Ben, there has been talk about this. I'll try to gather and post more information about it. Thanks for the suggestion.--Andy Schlafly 21:42, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Not sure what to do...

Hi, iv just joined this site and after one edit my userpage was written upon by a rude user. I deleted the obsenity a few times in the hope the user would give up, he was banned, but my user page was deleted. Im not sure if i am allowed to re-create it or not. Could you let me know what to do in this regard please?

By the way i think this site is a good idea. A right wing viewpoint on issues is a great way to look at things in a different light. I just hope i can be of some use on this site, as i get more experienced with how the wiki works. --CAndrs 17:11, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

In the future, please take the time to correct spelling and grammar errors, which you clearly did not do in the above post. If you can take the time to make proper article edits, why can't you do the same on talk pages and edit summaries? MeganH 19:46, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
What does that at ALL have to do with his asking for help Megan? --SeanS 19:59, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

My apologies i did not notice the spelling error. I hope its fixed now and thank you for pointing it out. To me the grammar seems ok, but if you believe it wrong then please let me know how to change it. --CAndrs 20:05, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

I still see mistakes but I'll worry about that later. Yes, please do recreate your user page. Sorry if I came across as rude. MeganH 20:09, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Ok thank you for letting me know. I still cant work out whats wrong but im pretty tired so that may be it. Have a nice night --CAndrs 20:12, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

CAndres, I put page protection on your user page to block it from new users. That should help. An Admin can block it from everyone but Admins if you request that. Conservative 20:26, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
NO!!! NO!!! JUST NO!!! You do not have the authority to change the protection of (unless requested by the owner), delete, oversight, or remove content from (except when reverting clear vandalism) another user's user page or talk page. This is a violation of the expected code of conduct for sysops.
In fact, this violation is exactly what RobS did to you, and that you want an apology for.
Pages, including people's user pages and talk pages, get vandalized all the time. I don't know whether you noticed, but a vandal named (you can figure it out) vandalized a bunch of pages between 1643 and 1653 today. The vandalism was quickly reverted. We have a good mechanism in place (sysops!) for that. The vandalized pages included the talk pages for Ed Poor, Rob Smith, and Andy Schlafly (this page!). The vandalism was reverted. The pages were not locked.
People take a chance with their user and talk pages, and everything else they do. This requires vigilance to revert vandalism. But we don't just protect everything. SamHB 23:19, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
CAndres, I would recommend you not have it admin-only protected, simply because then it would be a hassle for you to make a change to it. --SeanS 20:28, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
CAndres, How to edit a wiki: Part I and Part II Conservative 20:41, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
SamHB, I am not particularly concerned about RobS wants right now. Second, this user indicated they wanted help with vandals. There is nothing wrong with using common sense. RobS, removed the protection from talk page because he wanted to engage in childish power plays. Same with blocking a Sysop which is crazy since Sysops can unblock themselves. Sysops block other sysops when they can't make a very good argument for their case. I have no problem changing CAndres user page back. Not willing to discuss it further. Conservative 00:34, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
SamB, I read your complete post. If vandalism is quickly reverted then it makes sense to remove partial protection. I will do that now. Conservative 00:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Thank you for the interest in my page, but leaving it as is should be fine for now i think. Thank you for the effort though Conservative. I didnt want to get anyone into any trouble or a fight, especially not my first day, so il just stay out of everyones way for a while. Thank you again --CAndrs 07:49, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

This guy

I'm kinda suspicious about him. He looks like a liberals parodist, judging by the quality of his edits. You might want to check him out. NickP 22:35, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Rights consideration

Andy, I'd like to be considered for sysop rights. I think I've demonstrated the need; I've shown that I can handle responsibility (having had block rights for some time now), and I think my body of work (which - since the last time I requested rights - has been updated to include large projects, like my Supreme Court justices effort, and more notable, important pages, like Barack Hussein Obama) speaks for itself.--IDuan 14:11, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Seconded. Iduan has an excellent, impartial track record for several years now. Level headed, technically sufficient, and a good writer. Rob Smith 14:23, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
I vote Yea--Jpatt 22:04, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
He's been here since '07, that's certainly a plus. My only objection is that he doesn't have a clean block log, but we're Christians, and we forgive. DMorris 22:23, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
Iduan was the unfortunate victim of a frame up by an early RW 1.0 user. A RW user listed Iduan's name as one his sockpuppets on his user page at RW to sabotage and thwart his career. I have investigated the situation fully, and can say with full confidence Iduan was not involved in vandalzing CP in the early days. If anything, an apology is due him from both us and RW editors. Rob Smith 22:31, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
I see. In that case, I feel that Iduan would make a fine administrator. DMorris 22:36, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
First, a thank you to Rob for clearing my name on that particular offense. But I will be the first to admit my record isn't perfect - in my early days i was brash, argumentative and stubborn - I made very stupid mistakes in late 2007/early 08. I owned up to these (in private) to Andy and TK, and with Andy's permission and TK's guidance, I repented and was able to re-enter the community; barring a mistaken block (by TK, who reverted himself moments later with the summary "wrong button, whoops!"), I have not been a blocked user since January 2009 (and the last block was February 2008) .--IDuan 22:43, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
I'm looking into this matter again more closely. Iduan was 16 at this time. Iduan sometimes appeared impartial, non-partisan, or conciliatory in certain ideologically tinged discussions. As a result, Iduan earned the suspicion and hositlity of both warring factions, CP & RW sysops. Despite some missteps he has admnitted and taken responsibility for, Iduan truely is also an unfortunate victim of both CP & RW sysop conduct. I have discussed this case with high ups at RW s well, and have a grudging admission that what was done to Iduan, and how years later now he suffers from it, was improper.
Iduan likwise has informed me a former senior sysop no longer with us actually encouraged him to use a sockpuppet. If true, this is problematic, and we are looking for evidence to support this claim. Rob Smith 20:45, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
To be clear I never used a sock puppet, and in an effort to clear this user's name - let me also say he advised that I cease using my current account and use another one. I was not in favor of doing this, as I am proud to show the work I've done (I was also concerned about the ethicality of such a move) and the user eventually agreed with me.--IDuan 20:53, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
I agree with promoting Iduan. He is constructive, fair, hard-working, and helpful. He can be entrusted with this position. SamHB 12:55, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

New update: I've now also helped write site policy for sysops (the blocking section on Conservapedia:New sysop training page came from User:Iduan/guidelinedraft - which I wrote with Rob). Also - for ease of access - I've created User:Iduan/MajorWorks so you could see the highlights of my work (as opposed to every page I've created)--IDuan 18:45, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

Good afternoon Mr. Schlafly

I am back, I was tending to a gravely ill family member. I cleaned up the vandal's malicious edits and see you just blocked him/her. Just one question: I am quite knowledgable of Elvis Presley being a fan of quite a few years, and later, when I get the time, I would like to expand the article to rival that of Wikipedia and paper encyclopedias. I ask your permission because there is an article already in existence that seems to be a few loose factoids and a partial discography, and do not want to overwrite any of that without explicit permission. Also, after I finish the Presley article, I would like to work on other existing musician articles like Johnny Cash and Bob Seger (which is a minor stub anyway). I will work on these, as well as Proverbs on the CBP which I have done a fair bit on. Many thanks in advance. In Christ,--JamesWilson 12:15, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

Another question: in the case of Jennifer Granholm, who was formerly the Governor of Michigan, still has the category Democratic Governors. I updated the main article, but could a category for former governors be created. Many thanks in advance.--JamesWilson 22:36, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

My apologies, James, for just seeing your comment now. My condolences for your family member.
Of course it would be terrific for you to improve the singers' entries as you suggest. Also, I'll create a category for former governors as you recommend.
I just gave you blocking privileges. Congratulations!--Andy Schlafly 08:34, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
Many thanks, Mr. Schlafly. I will edit the musician articles soon, when I can find aqequate sources for them. And User:RobSmith has already done the category. And many thanks for the blocking privileges; as you can see, I already have put them to good use. Have an excellent evening--JamesWilson 19:37, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
I have used the current content for Presley's entry and created a rough skeleton for the format and added a rough intro as well as a few more facts. The article could benefit from a few more images, maybe one from a movie and the 50's Elvis when I further develop it. Is there a lobby to request those? And many thanks for your condolences.--JamesWilson 21:42, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
And the talk page for the Elvis article said it was copied in its original form?--JamesWilson 12:12, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
We don't want copies. Would you like me to delete it and then you can restart it with your own version?--Andy Schlafly 13:57, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
Sure. And I would greatly appreciate it if you could save my edits, but if you can't, thay's fine as well. And what about the images?--JamesWilson 14:00, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
Never mind the copied bit. The template said the copied parts were from the original author. Unless, you would prefer I start my own version from scratch, which I would be glad to do as well. Thanks.--JamesWilson 15:16, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
Terrific, then please simply build on what is already there. Is there any uploading of images that you seek also?--Andy Schlafly 15:26, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
What do you think of my additions so far? I have been working a fair bit on it. Yes, I was seeking a few images. Perhaps one of the 50's Elvis, one of him in the Army, and a movie photo. It would be greatly appreciated.--JamesWilson 15:31, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
I think I found a few suitable images for the article: [1], [2], and [3]. I couldn't find a free use one of him in the Army. Thanks in advance!--JamesWilson 10:40, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
Actually, [4]I think this one should be fine.--JamesWilson 21:33, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
Also, unrelated to the Presley article, there are a few articles that are vandalism in the speedy delete category that need removal.--JamesWilson 19:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

otto von habsburg

Hey, just wanted to show you this: Funeral of Otto Von Habsburg today TonyB 13:25, 16 July 2011 (EDT)


I don't know what the program is called, but the window that comes up to verify outside references seems to only use nonsense words. I sometimes have to ask for a different set of letters in order to post something. Is it possible to make it ask for real words, so I can actually figure out what it's asking me to type in? Thanks, SharonW 23:01, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

It is called a capatcha, and I've had the same problem. Unfortunately, you can't ask for real words and will have to deal with it.--JamesWilson 23:05, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks! I'm a bit clueless when it comes to some of the wiki stuff, but I'm learning. I guess I'll just keep cycling through the gooblygook until it comes out to something I can read. Thanks again. SharonW 23:10, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
No problem. The reason it exists is to stop automatic spammers and the like.--JamesWilson 23:16, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
The "captcha" is known to be extremely annoying due to its attempts to be unbreakable by computer bots. The intention is that the words "sound like" real English words, but that doesn't do much good if you can't read what it's saying. Just spin it again. That is, hit the button that looks like two arrows chasing their tails. Imagine that you are at a Roulette table and you get to bet as many times as you want, for free. Just keep spinning the wheel until you win, marveling at how the captcha authors could come up with such gobbledygook. SamHB 00:44, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
All of your accounts now have "SkipCaptcha" privileges.--Andy Schlafly 09:38, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
Many thanks, Mr. Schlafly. It is utmostly appreciated and will be a great convenience.--JamesWilson 12:40, 17 July 2011 (EDT)


Please block JOEMAMA. Thanks. SharonW 23:41, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the tip. Blocking privileges have been added to your account.--Andy Schlafly 23:49, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
Thank you for both the blocking rights and the skipcaptcha. I much appreciate them! SharonW 14:57, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

I also recommend a look into Legolas2186. Sharon and I believe he is a parodist, in part due to his edits to the Madonna article.--JamesWilson 00:00, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Agreed. NickP 01:16, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Also EURAwancque is a blatant vandal.--JamesWilson 14:15, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

TeddyG also appears to be malicious with having made a rather snide comment on a talk page.--JamesWilson 22:47, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Technical trouble

Hey, Andy!

I'm having the weirdest trouble accessing the site. Whenever I click a few links (Recent Changes, a few articles, couple of special pages, etc.), I suddenly find myself unable to connect to the site for 1-2 hours (I get the "Connecting to" thing in the browser status bar, followed by a time-out error after half a minute or so). Needless to say that it's somewhat hard to get anything done when my edit session comes to a sudden stop after a few clicks.

I'm not running anything that accesses the site beyond my normal browsing, my clicks should be well within acceptable (in fact, desirable) borders, and I'm not having the problem on any other site.

Is it possible that something on the server is trying to protect against clickbotting, but is configured too harshly? You can CheckUser my IP and compare it with the server logs to look for clues maybe - I've had this issue twice today (check my contribs - they fairly accurately mark the windows of opportunity I've had).

If you can help me out here, it'd be much appreciated. :) --Sid 3050 14:26, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Have you had trouble beyond today? Generally problems like that are server-side and very temporary, but if you think it might be client-side, try emptying your browser's cache--IDuan 14:33, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
I've had this problem... *thinks* at least since yesterday, though likely longer. I just rarely noticed it since I usually don't access many pages per hour while in read-only mode. I doubt it's because of anything obvious on my side, but I can try switching from Firefox to Safari to verify that it's at least not tied to the browser config. --Sid 3050 14:40, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
I've fixed the problem for you, Sid. Thanks for alerting me to it.--Andy Schlafly 14:53, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
Wow, that was fast, thanks! :) --Sid 3050 14:56, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
Whatever you did yesterday, could you do it again for my /16 range (I get a new IP every 24 hours)? I just knocked myself off the air while fighting a vandal (I'm posting this through a proxy). --Sid 3050 14:11, 18 July 2011 (EDT)


Hello, If you could check the contribs, you would see this user has been blanking user pages and essays. If my opinion matters to you, I suggest a short block and a warning. Thanks, ConservativeUserwhois? 14:14, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Blocked. Karajou 14:16, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks :)ConservativeUserwhois? 14:18, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Also, user:FYeahAmerica is malicious.--JamesWilson 14:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT)