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Blessings to all.Telling (talk) 22:36, January 1, 2023 (EST)

Two notes

Hi Telling, I started a stub for an article on Holocaust trivialization if you'd like to add on to it. Since your massive additions properly cover numerous examples of Arab antisemites trivializing the Holocaust, perhaps you can move some content from the larger articles there and replace those sections with a {{main|Holocaust trivialization}}.

Also, on a lesser note, I see that you tend to remove outdated discussions on your talk page here. How about creating an archive instead, as many users do? Just create a subpage like "User talk:Telling/Archive 1"! —LT ^{(Mark 8:36)} Thursday, 22:12, January 11, 2023 (EST)

Naftali Bennett

We could probably use a bio sketch on Naftali Bennett. Much of it could be filed in with paragraphs of content you've added elsewhere.

This is what we call a "Portal page", which then supplies links to all the subpages you've created with references to Bennett with more detail on each subject. Right now, we got Naftali Bennett on Template:Mainpageright, which would direct traffic to the portal page and all the subpages. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:58, February 5, 2023 (EST)

Meantime, please add a few highlights.

To start with.

1. Formerly activist in Judea Samaria (including in what the MSM calls "settlement"). 2. Was briefly a PM of Israel. 3. Had disappointed many conservatives when setting up a coalition which included also the Islamic Ra'am party. On the other hand, the anti-Israel vocal ranting paper Haaretz (which represents a small percentage in that country) who attacked him prior to that, supported him because of that 4. Tried to break peace in Ukraine and states he was promised by Putin, he wouldn't kill Zelensky. ThanksTelling (talk)

Okay, I'll get it started. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:37, February 5, 2023 (EST)

Reupload

I worked on this one a bit. [1] Use it or keep the original, it's your choice. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:19, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

Dear RobS,

This [2] is maybe clearer. What do you think?Telling (talk) 15:20, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

This might be best, being there are so many unnamed people in the photograph, and it looks a little less like somebody peed on it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:46, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

wow. Kudos. Great job, cleaning, trimming.Telling (talk) 03:34, March 19, 2023 (EDT)

Comments

Be interested in your comments: The US-Backed Color Revolution In Israel Just Reached Crisis Proportions (yah, some of these authors are "pro-Palestinian", but that's not the issue here as this guy states two or three times). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:16, March 27, 2023 (EDT)

There is no doubt that Biden has been meddling there. Mark Levin of FoxNews exposed much of it. IMHO I'm not sure if it's just ColorRevolution. If that term includes any mass intervention than it is so. This meddling began under Obama 0.1...a note about "pro palestinians", in truth, almost none of these really care about that Arab group. It's an elegant term for anti-Israelism Telling (talk) 17:01, March 27, 2023 (EDT)

I wouldn't be surprised, either. The idea behind color revolutions is to get anti-government mobs in the street via fake news and social media. And this, of course, shoots a bunch of conspiracy theorists in the foot who claim who's really behind color revolutions. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:46, March 27, 2023 (EDT)

Covenant School shooting

Do you feel like starting a Covenant School shooting page? Nobody else has done it so far, and it looks like this story has legs. We already got a lot of information elsewhere that can be cut n pasted in. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:44, March 28, 2023 (EDT)

I can see the lawsuits coming already from traumatized parents based on the Alex Jones precedent. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:46, March 28, 2023 (EDT)

sorry...long vacation.

Oh BTW, did you see this?

A Farrakhan Disciple Works for the Boston DA Seems like neo-Marxist Boston is getting a little too comfortable with Jew-haters. It's quickly turning from "we're only anti-Zionist, not antisemitic," to "Louis Farrakhan is a great guy!"

It's also worth noting that the MSM in recent months has employed the white supremacist terminology "Jewish supremacy," and that modern-day old-school white supremacists seem to have a high affinity for Palestinian extremist causes. One of the greatest ironies perhaps is how neo-Marxists claim the "ZOG" conspiracy is exclusively "far-right" even though they themselves propagate it in all but name. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Sunday, 19:00, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for this shocking, but useful info to reveal truth. It is a result of 1 - The BLMism. And 2- Omar/Tlaib duo (who are pro Islamism, and will not agree to liberalism in any Muslim society, but will help the AOCs to liberalize Americans and play the "we are progressives" only to have the) influence on the Squad is strong, even NBC TV series shows are influenced by scapegoating exclusively whites especially Jews. (BTW, some useful sites info on the ME can be found of course on page you mentioned www.israelnationalnews.com, on www.JNS.org, www.Palwatch.org ).Telling (talk) 20:00, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

Well, the general "antiwhite" sentiment seems to be part of a larger game: perhaps all along, the untold secret plan among the leftist elite is to portray themselves as antiwhite, so that when conservatives criticize them, they link the political right to far-left white supremacists. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 20:23, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

BTW, regarding that zog-slur-myth, it is so ridiculous how bigots use Soros, despite his rather anti-Zionism / anti-Israel Islamists-apologetic past/present activities see also related [Biden's anti-Israel appointments].Telling (talk) 21:27, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

Musk's 'Soros is anti-human civilization' was brilliant. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:34, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Yeah, I completely get what you mean; Jew-haters are just stupid to begin with, and thus their "logic" never adds up. Another example that suddenly comes to mind would be how white supremacists and black nationalists sometimes quote Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, which anyone who actually reads the context will know is not even a polemic against Jewry at all.

Yes, Musk's denunciation of Soros was thorough, bold, and perfect. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 21:35, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

If one criticize terrible Soros as a wrong guy, that is fine. If one links him to the old fantasy of "TheProtocles" forgery or "because" of his ethnic linkage, now that is blind hate. I didn't see the latter in Musk (I tend to believe, he didn't mean the H.S. detail in choosing that character). . Resources on anti-Israel record of Soros-

[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11].Telling (talk) 22:06, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

I don't know if the Soros page is locked or not, but you're free to give us a fresh updated perspective. Mind you, the guy's 86 and the stuff could be written like an obituary or final epitaph of his life's work and ambitions. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:02, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

Hope to get to that some day too.Telling (talk) 22:06, May 28, 2023 (EDT)

Sorry

Another editor derailed your thread into something other than Main Page news which I thought we could develop properly, so it was moved here: Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Islam_convert_pro_ISIS_-_Andrew_Tate:_called_for_the_Islamisation_of_Britain. Don't give up or become discouraged. Just ignore the trolling. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:38, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Cheers. NP.Telling (talk)

Bidenomics

I started a Bidenomics page. This page likely will be linked to from the Main Page often in coming months. I used all your material from the Joe Biden page. Feel free to do what whatever you think is necessary to keep the new page current and updated. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:56, July 24, 2023 (EDT)

Sounds great.Telling (talk)

You might be interested

[12] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:57, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks.

Biden impeachment

Do we have enough to start a Biden impeachment page yet? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:09, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

We shall follow it, but I fear, at the end, it won't get through against all the odds (MSM +WH letter to them, etc.)...what say tou?Telling (talk)

Yah, that's my expectation, too. Nobody (not even the Dems) wants Kamala. This means the House hearings have to dragged out almost through the primaries or when (however) Biden gets the boot. 2024 is an open seat election right now.

FWIW, we could start a page, and fill it in with stuff already in CP (look what I did in about 10 minutes with James Biden once his name hit the headlines) as stuff comes out in the hearings. Really, most everything has been known in open source for 3-4 years already. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:53, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I shall chip in, nevertheless. Meantime, hat tip - Two links to start off with:

https://oversight.house.gov/hearing/the-basis-for-an-impeachment-inquiry-of-president-joseph-r-biden-jr/

filtered searchTelling (talk)

Ok, got her rolling. Now we got something to link to for daily headlines. As I said, as "bombshells" come out, we probably already got it in Ukrainian collusion or Biden crime family or Hunter's page, etc. The "7 takeaways" from I think the heritage Foundation on MPR could give a guide to developing subheadings. Also, Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist should be a good source.

But, as before, the fact this in Oversight and not Judiciary means it's going to be dragged out. I hope at least 6 months, to coincide with Trump's trials. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:45, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

What you said last line, is exactly Biden's nightmare.Telling (talk)

I'm expecting an LBJ-like scenario, hopefully with Biden withdrawing after a few primaries run to put Kamala at a big disadvantage. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:55, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

This [13] image?Telling (talk)

"scoundrels, sleaze, corruption". Love it!

Yep, if we can the most House high drama around Super Tuesday (by then Biden already makes his LBJ speech), then a Senate trial around convention time for maximum embarrassment to the Democrats, would be the perfect scenario.

You know, right now the GOP are the majority in the Senate with Feinstein's death - you don't need a tie breaker. Must be in the Senate rules if California has a Dem gov, there's no switch. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Yes...plus Menendez is in trouble...Telling (talk)

Oh yes, that too. And Fetterman's brain dead. Unless all three states have Democrat governors, there must be a Senate rule that Minority Leader could push to take over control. Til then, Schumer's in charge of what comes to floor, so they just won't vote on anything til replacements arrive. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:10, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

<digression> Sundance of The Conservative Treehouse explained why Glitch McConnell is such a putz who'd rather play defense than offense; cause the Minority Leader only needs to control 11 Senators to make or break a Filibuster, rather than 40 like the Majority has to. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:16, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I was actually quite surprised when Fettetman said Menendez is got to go..Telling (talk)

Yah, but we've all seen this movie before.

It's like yesterday's 335 votes to strip Ukraine funding for 45 days; now members of both parties can go home and say they voted for it against it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:22, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Let's see if there is going to be a real change in border security funding... after all the drama.

Quote of the day "107,000 Americans have died from fentanyl poisoning, from fentanyl coming across the Southern border. We haven't lost one soldier in Ukraine" [14].Telling (talk)

Wow. Victory at last! Lindsey Graham, of course. I've seen stuck on stupid, but he keeps burying himself. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

At least, in this case, today, even he advocates for the vital US security. i.e. borders.Telling (talk)

Well, do the math: 100,000 die a year from fentanyl and 100,000 a month come across the border. And somehow we're ahead.RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

federalistwire again https://thefederalistwire.com/democrats-present-biden-with-chilling-ultimatum/ RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

BTW, this post re AOC...

What do you know about the DEBUNKED Khazar–myth?

Hi Telling, since you're an expert on Judaism and Jewry, I presume you've heard of the argument before that contends Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descended from Khazars instead of ancient Judeans. Based off what the Jewish Encyclopedia says, it almost sounds as if modern-day "white" Jews are descendants of Russian Jews who were ethnic Khazar converts into the Talmudic sect of Judaism (commonly mistaken as "Pharisaism," which opposed Hellenization). Is this accurate, from your understanding?

Also, I'm aware of the fact that the Khazar argument is commonly abused by various antisemitic propagandists for moronic reasons, though would it be accurate to say that promulgation of the Khazar–Ashkenazi narrative is automatically indicative of antisemitism? For example, I see some Christian leaders such as Prof. Walter J. Veith in his King of the North II lecture and the author(s) of this book contend that Ashkenazi Jews trace their lineage to Khazars, though they don't come off as antisemitic.

Now, in the Veith lecture, he unfortunately resorts to quoting Benjamin H. Freedman, which evidently was a moronic decision he made; I've watched plenty of his lectures, and he seemed to have cited at least several low-quality, fringe sources, though most of the racism/antisemitism charges against him seemed fabricated and motivated by the SDA hierarchy's effort to suppress his outreach. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 21:44, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

It was originally a theory by a non historian Jew to repel anti Semitism in Europe linked to the death of Jesus.

But it was debunked (not just because of DNA). Ironically, today it's used against Jews to deny links to Israel. (Benjamin Freedman was a unique self hating guy who backed haters) It came up mainly in the early 1960s by infamous Holocauat denier Issa Nakhleh who worked with neo nazis for most of his career. Today it's promoted only by neo Nazis and anti Israel radical palestinians. (And a bigot on Wikipedia Nishidani). In any case, what Israelphobes don't get is, even of a small group were converts, still, they are considered Jews and have the same (automatically) Biblical rights. Because it's not about "race."~

Okay, I think I get what you're saying: so ultimately, since Jews are Jewish also because of religious adherence, their ancestry doesn't matter anyways at the end of the day? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 21:59, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Exactly. A Jew is either by conversion or by having a Jewish mother. King David descended from Ruth the Jewish convert.

[EC] [EC] I see. Now, I suppose this is a bit of a digression, though in religious terms, how connected is modern-day Judaism to the Judaism of the Old Testament? For example, according to this brief dissertation, Hellenistic influence watered down the traditional Jewish emphasis on human life; would be accurate to say that the compilation of the Talmud was likewise an outgrowth of Hellenization?

And another thing also: would I be correct to say that Jews, both historically and nowadays, tend to be left-wing because traditionally it was the "right-wing" clerical power of the Dark Ages that so viciously persecuted them? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:08, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Tip. As you can imagine, much of rationalwiki is not to my taste.. but on Khazar, they have some correct material, as of now.Telling (talk)

Yeah, I also saw their article on the topic. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:08, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

In wake of Abbas' latest (Aug.24.23) tirade and falsehood [[15][16][17]. A researcher elaborated.

separating myth from fact. (And re Issa Nakhleh another detail).Telling (talk)

Very interesting. I can't say I've done any extensive research on the linguistic and/or ethnic origins of Ashkenazi Jews to reach an absolutely determinate position on this issue; what I can say in the meantime though is that at the end of the day, the truth doesn't inherently lead to good; the truth can be used for righteous causes or twisted into negative, malicious intents. For me personally, as I hope most of the world would understand, it's objective, biblical moral standards that matter and the full adherence thereof which makes a person righteous, not understanding the truth alone in of itself. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:42, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

This vicious story is about a hater, post 9/11, using the Khazar myth. The site as a whole is very radical liberal but, please concentrate on the second half of the post.Telling (talk)

Yikes, what terrible hatred that some Holocaust survivors continued to endure. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:57, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

I first heard about the Khazars from Arther Koestler in the 1970s. Then a Jewish guy I worked with 20 years later repeated the whole thing (he must have read the same Koestler stuff). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:43, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Oh wow, a Jew promulgated the Khazar hypothesis to you? Very, very interesting. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 23:45, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

That was before DNA finding also refuted it...

I was just reading Koester's WP bio - what an interesting life. They credit Koestler for "revitalizing" the story in 1976 and have a link to a page on the subject which says "some call a myth". RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:07, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Sunday laws

Hi Telling, around last year I read this article about Sunday laws. Do you happen to know much on the history of Sunday laws and antisemitism? I know that during antiquity, the apostate "Christian" Sunday laws during the time of Constantine was rooted in anti-Jewish bigotry, though have yet to find sufficient quality sources. What about also in the paganism-ridden city of Alexandria, for example? This source goes into a few details, though I wish I could unearth a bit more. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 23:33, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

1922. 1987 book.

BTW, as routine, as you know / can see, I don't elaborate on Christian anti-Semitism, which I'm quite aware of. Telling (talk)

Thanks for the sources, Telling; as for "Christian anti-Semitism," my research has indicated that much of the antisemitism in "Christianity" has little to do with a proper understanding of the New Testament and is the result of pagan, occultist, Gnostic influence. (now yes, there's the common "the Jews killed Jesus" argument, which falls flat when one realizes that the Greek term "hoi Ioudaios" does not translate simply to "the Jews" but rather means "the Judeans") For example, in the early Apostolic Era (2nd century), the Apostolic Fathers exemplified religiously motivated anti-Judaism against non-Christian Jews, and were strongly opposed to the highly antisemitic Gnosticism promulgator Marcion. Similarly, it was the apocryphal Epistle of Barnabas that promoted flagrant antisemitism, which the early apostolic church was not so quick to seep into, given the existence of Jewish Christians.

I've found some clues, though don't feel like I've fully connected the dots yet. For example, it's interesting and probably not too coincidental that the serpent seed theory, almost certainly invented by Gnostics, has been promoted by apostate, pseudochristian white supremacist cults. And yet, the serpent seed theory is blamed as a form of "Christian" antisemitism despite directly contradicting Genesis.

Since I myself identify as an adherent of Jewish-Christian values (the term "Christian" was never used by the earliest apostolic Jewish church in Jerusalem, which called itself Nazarenes; it was first used in reference to gentile converts) and am a historicist in eschatology, I believe that the final mark of the beast will be a Sunday law; any information you can find on the history of Sunday laws and antisemitism is highly appreciated. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:12, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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Certainly, the Jewish Press piece you quoted is vital.

Meantine:

• Lewis' book: Lewis, A. H. (1888). A Critical History of Sunday Legislation from 321 to 1888 A.D.. United States: D. Appleton.

• The change in UK in 1855. Upon Baron Rothchild's efforts

(Pearlson, G. (1898). Twelve Centuries of Jewish Persecution: A Brief Outline of the Sufferings of the Hebrew Race in Christian Lands, Together with Some Account of the Different Laws and Specific Restrictions Under which They Have at Various Times Been Placed. United Kingdom: J. Lightowler, Albion Press. p. 41).

• A great problem For Sabbath observers

1925 ('The Jew In Canada', 1925, pp. 142-3)

• In Poland, great strife (Der Yid, Volume 4, 1902, p. 2.).

A 1975 book about Jews in Poland pp. 30, 60. Re the Sunday laws from Dec 18, 1919, great difficulties for Jewish traders/craftsmen that they have to rest two days VS non Jews (the economic strain). Telling (talk) 06:15, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith

User: Telling, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:

Andy and DavidB4,

Less than a month ago, we had an "Articles for Deletion" vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted.

With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also.

Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content.

Sincerely,

User: Conservative

I am referring to this article: Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 07:08, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine

At Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine please vote in the following manner:

This is a time wasting revote. There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. User: RobSmith lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.

Your vote on this matter would be very helpful. Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later.

By the way, this is what RobSmith recently said about capitalism:

"Fascism is both socialism and capitalism; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)"

Thank you very much for your past editing at Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 09:00, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

The Babylonian Talmud

Hi Telling, I recall a while ago reading and watching conservative Christian lecturers and activists explain that according to the Babylonian Talmud, God finally sent the Great Flood because the sinful majority of mankind allowed same-sex "marriage." Is this true, and if so, which specific section in the Talmud says this? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 00:40, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

Before I look it up, first of all, the wording in Genesis 6:12 includes this... among other...

It's not in the main structure of the Talmud but in a Midrash (Vayikra Raba 23). But it's again, an interpretation of the verse I quoted. As the Talmud is an expansion and interpretation of the Tanakh (What Christians call OT). Tip, I must add a point re the Talmud. At times, it might be complicated to clarify certain phrases for someone who is not used with its termonlohy and context.Telling (talk)

Huh, so the conservative Christian argument about the Talmud allegedly saying "marriage contracts for same-sex couples led to the Great Flood" might be a misleading, exaggerated quote mine after all? I see. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 01:28, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

I meant that as a general rule. But in this case, per the Midrash sentence, it seems, it was one of the causes and the Talmud expands on the robbery affect too.Telling (talk)

It was the unavenged murder of Cain, a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit, and all Cain's descendants perished in the flood. Immediately afterward, God laid down the law (long before Moses), "Whoever sheds man's blood by man shall his blood be shed." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:14, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

Yes dear RobSmith, Cain indeed repented.Telling (talk)

Digression a bit: the Book of Daniel

Another point since I'm asking about the Talmud: is there any basis, at least from your perspective, to suspect that the Talmud attempts to discredit the Book of Daniel to a certain extent since chapter 9 foretells the coming of the Messiah? For example, it appears that Daniel isn't listed as a prophet.

And the other argument I've seen is this probably fake quote, propagated by some Christian lecturers like Prof. W. J. Veith (just as a warning: that section of the Veith lecture is kinda harsh and may come off antisemitic):

Now, the actual quote I found is this:

My guess would be that somewhere along the line, one anti-Judaic polemicist within the Seventh-day Adventist Church or wherever decided to "modify" Sanhedrin 97b and the exaggerated quote was either fabricated or accidentally misread as belonging to "page 978" since "B" looks like "8." —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 01:36, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

In General, any interpretations, Chabad is reliable, Sefaria - not always. In some cases they distort. As to misinterpreting texts in Talmud in order to use it to rationalize already-established-hate, that is unfortunately old news.

You quoted one location about not to calculate. However, I'll add just about the difference of opinions in Talmud as to "calculate " or not - end of times, the fear is that one might interpret a certain calculation wrongly and when it doesn't happen he will have doubts in faith. At the end of the day. It is concealed. Maimonides concludes.Telling (talk)

[EC] Ah, I see; interesting. Well then, the quote with the "may his memory rot from off the face of the earth forever" phrase must almost certainly be an antisemitic fabrication. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 02:12, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

There are also differences of opinion if that prohibition applies today. In actuality, many rabbis, post Talmud-writing Era did engage in calculations. I will reiterate my above sentence about understanding the Talmud. And sure, some language may sound hard. The phrase that you just stated is actually a Biblical phrase - Proverbs 10:7 about bad people.Telling (talk)

I also did not know that before either; I still got my Tanakh reading to finish up on. :) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 02:24, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

This is not the only phrase or idea that some mistakenly attributed to the Talmud - while stated in the Bible. On the other hand, without the Talmud, one might understand the Bible wrongly, such as an "eye for an eye..." I will humbly pre-empt and add, that I can not promise that I will be able to answer everything, here re Talmud.Telling (talk)

Amalek

Hi Telling, from an Old Testament standpoint, would you contend that Hamas functions as modern-day Amalek? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 22:58, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

The man is a little bit busy right now with Swords of Iron. Please don't distract him and allow him to do his work. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:01, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Hi both. And thanks to RobSmith for his understanding. But to your question LT, the deeper Judaism line is that Amalek isn't limited to a race but to a behavior / ideology. As to defining these particular groups (current Iranian regime /Hamas/PIJ/Hezbollah) of people-ideology as Amalek, Me, little guy, is not authorized in deciding so. But certainly whoever is on the campaign against the Jewish people is at least linked to it.

Telling (talk)

Ah, I see. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 23:44, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Any thoughts on this essay I wrote?

See: Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919 —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 08:43, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

Will take a look when freed. God bless.

Alright, sounds good; may the Lord likewise bless you! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 18:50, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting. I only searched a bit so far, and ccording to this, by Sept/1919 he began to pick on Bolshevism..Telling (talk)

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Thanks. Nice. Telling (talk) 23:17, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

My two cents: Ignore it. it's a conspiracy of trolls to take over the wiki. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:31, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Don't listen to the disgraced RobSmith. It is an association designed to ensure editors are civil. If that is a "conspiracy", I am a proud conspirator. And RobSmith, you just peed all over this carpet. MayGodBless (talk) 02:50, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Wud I tell ya? Don't get mixed up with these trolls. And you, MGB, I'm watching you closely for harassment and disruption of editor's work. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:58, October 31, 2023 (EDT)