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Geopolitics

User:Conservative proudly has a series he labels: User:Conservative Essays: Geopolitics. Let's see how studied and knowledgeable he is to lay claim to use of that term. Using 2 articles from Wikipedia (yes, as a member of WP's Copy Editor's Guild I found a glaring error in one article, but that section won't be cited here), I will produce a simple narrative,

Haushofer ... specialty was to combine the fields of geography, history, economics, demography, political science, and anthropology into a new discipline that came to be called Geopolitik.

Geopolitik is a branch of 19th-century German statecraft, foreign policy and geostrategy. It developed from the writings of various German philosophers, geographers and thinkers, including Oswald Spengler (1880-1936), Alexander Humboldt (1769-1859), Karl Ritter (1779-1859), Friedrich Ratzel (1844-1904), the Swede Rudolf Kjellén (1864-1922), and Karl Haushofer (1869-1946).

So obviously Haushofer coined the term.

Haushofer was informally interrogated by Fr. Edmund A. Walsh on behalf of Nuremberg Trials prosecutor Robert H. Jackson to determine whether Haushofer should also stand trial. Fr. Walsh ultimately reported to Jackson that Haushofer was both legally and morally guilty of complicity in Nazi war crimes. Citing, "the role of geopolitics in corrupting education into a preparation for war", Walsh accused Haushofer and his associates of being, "basically as guilty as the better-known war criminals."[11] In his later memoir of the Nuremberg Trials, Walsh further alleged that, "The tragedy of Karl Haushofer", was his participation in the, "nationalizing", of academic scholarship and of turning Geopolitik into a weapon supplying, "an allegedly scientific basis and justification for international brigandage."[12]

But User:Conservative proudly wears the title of geopolitical expert.

Karl and Martha Haushofer died together in a suicide pact

Just like Adolf and Eva or Magda and Joseph Goebbels. But these are the people User:Conservative claims intellectual kinship or being an heir. Need I go on?

Haushofer visited Landsberg prison [in 1927] to teach and mentor both [Rudolph] Hess and Hitler.

Haushofer also coined the political use of the term Lebensraum, which Hitler also used to justify both crimes against peace and genocide.

But there is no indication User:Conservative is bothered by any of this in his Russophobic 'intellectual' pursuit.

in 1919, he forged a friendship with the young Rudolf Hess, who became his scientific assistant and later rose to be the deputy leader of the Nazi Party, second in authority only to Hitler. In 1919, Haushofer successfully defended his second dissertation, and became Privatdozent for political geography at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, and was made a professor in 1933

There was no such thing as "geopolitics" in 1933. Haushofer, Hess, and Hitler made it popular and successful. But User:Conservative is oblivious to facts or history. The Russians aren't. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:13, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

This section is now addressing the analysis of an individual Conservapedia user, and therefore belongs in the community portal, not Talk:Main Page, since MPR isn't to advertise administrator intragripes. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:21, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

The resident geopolitical expert steered the discussion in this direction by commenting on this thread, and this is a subject of vast import to MPR and CP's editorial stance. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:29, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

You decided to bait him into this discussion by making an accusation about his statements which was proven to be flat-out false, so once again, your assertion in an effort to excuse yourself lacks credibility. I hope this clarifies matters. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:33, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, perhaps this should be moved to the user complaints instead. Oh well, I suppose it can remain in COMPORT for now. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:37, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Propaganda news

WSJ: Russia has 270,000 killed and wounded and lost more than 50% of its troops

What this means, and hardly anyone is talking about it, is that the War is half over in 1.5 years. Thus, it will mostly end inside 3 years, i.e. within 1.5 years more. The losses and injuries, not to mention the declining Ruble and reduced revenues Russia has faced, is not sustainable. This is clear, very clear, though some are claiming this War is "going to extend into the 2030s" etc.

"More than a year after Moscow failed in its goal of a lightning victory in Ukraine, the Russian military has steadily adapted on the battlefield as it shifts to a strategy of wearing down Ukraine and the West.

To be sure, Russia's military—which has suffered more than 270,000 killed and wounded as its army has lost more than 50%" https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russias-army-learns-from-its-mistakes-in-ukraine-a6b2eb4 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:47, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Projection; NATO cannot admit its losses so they project them on RUssia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:52, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

See: "Russia's ruble is now worth less than 1 cent. It's the lowest since the start of Ukraine war." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ruble-to-usd-less-than-a-penny-lowest-ukraine-war/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:53, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

One of the Planks of the Commie Communist Manifesto of Wretched Apostate Atheist Karl Marx: Central Banks in All or Most Countries

https://mostlyeconomics.wordpress.com/2018/06/19/one-of-the-planks-of-communist-manifesto-was-to-have-central-banks-in-most-countries/

One of the planks of Communist Manifesto was to have central banks in most countries… A food for thought article by Prof Dipankar Gupta. He titles it as: “We are all marxists: Liberal democrats have understood The Communist Manifesto better than communists”.

The article is in written for 200th birthday of Karl Marx. Prof Gupta says Marx would be pleased that around 60% of his suggestions have already been implemented in most countries which prize themselves as liberal democracies:" NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:49, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

What would you replace Central Banks with? How would you purchase oil from Saudi Arabia, for example? Barter? A basket of currencies? Would all purchasers outside Saudi Arabia have to deal with the Saudi sellers directly? How would the sellers know they weren't getting scammed with counterfeit currencies or bogus goods, etc.?

Just cause a source sounds intelligent and informed doesn't mean it is. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:55, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

"Arthur Schopenhauer once said, “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident." https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7265630-arthur-schopenhauer-once-said-all-truth-passes-through-three-stages NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:58, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Yep. Kind of like Trump colluded with Putin, coronavirus comes from eating bats, there are no Nazis in Ukraine, and deep staters aren't working to get DeSantis elected. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:01, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Arthur Schopenhauer wrote The World as Will and Idea, which was the inspiration for the film Triumph of the Will (Nietzsche's Will to Power is a separate discussion; he was a contemporary of Schopenhauer but much younger). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:09, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis is a Deep State pawn? Pfft. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 19:10, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Where did his $100 million come from? Not in donations of $250 or less. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:12, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier made a great point about Communism being deadlier than Nazism.

It looks like someone's bizarre admonition to not criticize communism/China during the war in Ukraine was very wrongheaded. It was also a false dilemma and quite illogical.

Logic is one of the foundational stones of clear thinking.

I would give NishantXavier three Olés due to him really skewering someone's wrongheaded and myopic view of the world. Conservative (talk) 17:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Was Communism as Bad as Nazism? Indisputably, yes it was. And Frankly, it was much worse. The Record and Stats/Figures show it

This is relevant in light of recent disputes such as Ukraine allegedly being full of "Nazis". It should be remembered that, while (1) Commies and Nazis are both Dictatorial Thugs (2) They started World War II (3) All the Suffering of Millions during, and sometimes after WWII is because of them (4) They are collectively responsible for the Genocidal Massacre of an estimated 120 MN people (5) but Communism caused far more deaths and thus is indisputably far worse, except to the sinfully and willfully blind. It should also be remembered that, if you are being attacked and invaded by Commie Dictators, as for e.g. both Finland and Ukraine were, you might ally with Germans without in any way agreeing with the idiotic Nazi ideology that Jews and other races were allegedly "inferior" or needed to be "exterminated" etc.

"Courtois argues that there is an essential similarity between communism and Nazism, and then, by comparing the number of alleged victims, comes up with a neat figure of 95m dead for communism against 25m for Nazism. Ergo, communism must have been worse."

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/essays/56390/was-communism-as-bad-as-nazism And Courtois is correct, you idiotic brainwashed liberal. I mean, the person in the link who argues Courtois was incorrect. These brain dead liberals are virtually capable of logical reasoning. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:22, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"These brain dead liberals are virtually capable of logical reasoning." Yep, sounds about right; what a reality to live in, eh? Also, Nazism is a form of Communism. For more information, see: Communist origins of Nazism —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:25, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yah yah yah, I get. We should have took Hitler's side against Stalin. I'm well familiar with that debate. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:32, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Look, I was the driving force behind Wikipedia's Venona project series; in 1976 I was called a fascist in an international relations class for suggesting that the Soviet Union had no legitimate claim to the Ukraine. You need to be better prepared before you bring that kind of fascist propaganda to the table. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Criticism of Communism is "fascist propaganda," eh? Now you're sounding like a real commie agitator. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:37, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

No, I was called a fascist for talking about Ukrainian sovereignty and independence 50 years ago, and called a fascist 15 years ago in Wikipedia for exposing commie spies in the US government in the 1940s and 1950s. It's a testament to how much the American government, media, and academia has swung from being leftwing communist to fascist and nazisymps just since Obama. The paradigm shift.

Go up and watch The Hill report on the Nazi in the Canadain Parliament - both commentators are Black. They offer a very very interesting perspective on what should be done now. You're not going to fool Blacks - middle class black or poor blacks - with this "Nazi Freedom Fighter" bs. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:50, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

General George Patton, who fought and won the War against the Nazis, presciently said: "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy (Germany) all along. But while we're here (on the Soviet border), we should go after the [expletive deleted] now, 'cause we're gonna have to fight 'em eventually."

"[General George] Patton correctly saw the Soviet Union as the main enemy of the Allies after WWII. Patton correctly saw Stalin as the real threat to the democracy of Western Europe after WWII, especially after he saw how oppressively the Soviets treated Eastern Europe with mass murders and mass exiles of Eastern Europeans." https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-context-for-Pattons-We-fought-the-wrong-enemy NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:38, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Soviet communism worked people to death; Nazism killed you on the spot if weren't a Nazi. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:39, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The fast-and-furious murder was at the death camps. The concentration camps worked people to death. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:42, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Arbeit Macht Frei", but most people passing under that sign went straight up the chimney. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:43, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Soviet system used the threat of going up the chimney to get you to comply; the Nazi system used the deception of "Work Makes you Free" to get you to disrobe for delousing before going up the chimney and so they could rummage through your clothes and personal effects. That's the difference between Stalinism and Western Fascism. The Westerners were more efficient - nothing got wasted. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Indeed, the Nazis are even more far-left than the commies are. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:58, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

But you guys opposed Trump and supported Nazism, so it's all coming back. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:54, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not a socialist, and hence I'm not a Nazi. Lies have consequences, RobSmith. (Rev. 21:8) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:56, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The day is coming quickly where trash talking Putin makes you a Nazi. I've been warning User:Conservative for more than a year on this. He didn't have to do it. He could of wrote on UK pot holes or gay Frensh Fries or whatever, but he doubled down, not cause he knows anything about the subject or even cares, but only cause I warned him. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:33, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"trash talking Putin makes you a Nazi" Wow, quite the imaginative fantasy-land you envision. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:40, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The world is changing fast. NATO lost the war against Russia (unless you want to go fight - you're of fighting age, or you want to get nuked). The news just hasn't caught up to the American people yet. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Your fantasies won't last forever, RobSmith. The question at hand is whether you want them to be shattered before or after the close of probation. It makes the eternal difference. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:02, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe when User:Consevative is 98 years old he can get a standing ovation in the Canadian House of Commons for his courage, but people still have long memories. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Christian Nationalism in each individual Christian Country, and then Christian Inter-Nationalism or Christian Universalism in all of Global Christendom together, is the only solution to (1) Communism (2) Nazism and (3) Liberal Abortionism, for all of these are Mass-Murdering Ideologies that are based on hatred and wickedness and have caused the genocidal deaths of millions. 360 Million Christians remain Persecuted in the world today as a standing reproach to those who refuse to work for Christian Nationalism in Christian Countries. Let me share what I posted on this in a Whatsapp group yesterday, when a Christian Sister in North Africa told us she was being persecuted. I also shared that Conservapedia article with the group, and they appreciated it. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:27, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Daniel Kolenda, a CFAN Evangelist who's travelled to Africa to Evangelize, has said in the past he has got Christian Governors/State Leaders to intervene when Christians are persecuted. Christian leaders in the West etc and in Christian Countries should do that more, when our brother and sister Christians in other countries are persecuted. imo." We need Christian Countries to defend Religious Freedom and put an end to all Religious Persecution, especially the Persecution of Christians. Millions continue to die and suffer as we watch.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:28, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Christian Nationalism" is the "only solution"? That's the sentiment which will lead to the formation of the image of the beast. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:40, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Beast is an Anti-Christ system based on the denial that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and even the True Messiah, which best describes Pharisaic Judaism, though partially Islam too, for Pharisaic Judaism denies both, while Islam denies the first. Next, it is Christians who will be persecuted during the Reign of the Beast, and this for refusing to renounce Jesus Christ and accept Anti-Christ as the Messiah. This Messiah will come from either Judaism or Islam, the two sects that deny Jesus Christ is the Son of God. They will accept Anti-Christ as the Messiah, then persecute Christians who remain faithful to Jesus Christ, as I hope I do, and I pray you are faithful to Him also. Read your Bible properly, and pray to the Holy Ghost for His Gift of Wisdom, instead of repeating lies of known enemies of the Christian Faith, such as Pharisaical Judaism which denies Christ is the Son of God, or of Islam, which repeats the same error of Anti-Christ. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:44, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, I explained to you over and over why your theories are incorrect. I'm not going to even bother at this point; I quite seriously hope your rude awakening comes before the close of probation so you have room left to be saved, though clearly it is pointless at the moment for me to articulate the same facts to you again and again, expecting your response to be any different. Best of luck, friend. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:48, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

You choose to remain in error then, LT. I will keep working for Christian Nationalism and end of Persecution of Christians in the World Today. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:51, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you again, Conservative. God Bless you. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:51, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

☭RobSmith☭ is becoming now a complete Communist shill. (see: Comsymp) To him, Stalin was not the ruthlessly bloody mass murderer history remembers him to be, but the leader of a patriotic vanguard against Fascism. He's happy to forget that Stalin enabled Nazi war crimes not only during the entirety of the Communazi era, but also the Warsaw Uprising by refusing to smash Nazis. Even while I have continuously compared Nazism with Communism as parallel and near-identical ideologies, he still brands any criticism of Communism coming from me as "pro-Nazi."

Also not only pathetic, but inconsistent, is RobSmith's view regarding Putin and Communism. So criticism of Communism apparently implies that one supports Ukronazis against Putin, yet arguing any sort of association between Putin and Communism makes one a Ukronazi shill.

According to the Apostle John in the Book of Revelation, all liars "shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8) RobSmith isn't facing an ideal judgment waiting for him, from where he's standing right now. Since probation hasn't closed yet, however, there is still space and room for him to repent, if he chooses to do so. (side note: I was going to post this in response to Conservative's initial posting of the very same comment on my talk page, but he removed it and transferred it here) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I'm no more a commie than Wild Bill Donovan. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:02, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith's political worldview is going to come crashing down as China's growing economic problems will cause Russia to sell less fossil fuels to China. Of course, he will blame it on the West/USA "cheating" or some other nonsense. Men's ability to engage in denialism can be very strong. Putin should have never launched his special operation in February of 2022. It set off a cascade of things that will make Russia's current situation worse. I am looking forward to looking at geopolitics again in 2028 to see what unfolds. And by 2030, I strongly suspect things will be worse for Russia and China.

Of course, I will not see or hear RobSmith's frustration and sadness then as I no longer read RobSmith's content.

But hopefully, maybe some very good things will happen like the Chinese Communist Party will lose power and Christianity will blossom in China. Maybe Russia will see a religious revival and its low church attendance will see a rise. Sometimes misfortune causes men to draw to God. While these things may be unlikely in the near future, you never know what may happen. Conservative (talk) 18:17, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I disagree with the specifics of why RobSmith's fantasies will be shattered (I'm convinced the world may end as soon as 2027), though I concur on the general aspect that he will face a rude awakening. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:20, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I suspect RobSmith will blame it all on me. By the way, Kevin McCarthy keeps calling me about the issue of funding in Ukraine. I had to change my number. Conservative (talk) 18:24, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

LT, This is what I was talking about: how a user walks into an ongoing conversation and pees all over the carpet. Those days need to come to an end. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:31, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Glorification, or simply false statements?

Zelensky and neo-Nazi leader Andriy Biletsky, who said the Ukrainian nation's mission is to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans)", also known as White Leader.Telegraph

RobSmith, you pass yourself along as an expert on nazi Ukraine, so here's a simple question: why would a Neo-nazi government running Ukraine right now bother themselves into getting a JEW as their president? Karajou (talk) 02:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Welcome back. Let's keep it civil. How Zelensky Made Peace With Neo-Nazis, Consortium News. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:54, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I want YOU to answer the question, and not some spurious news link. Karajou (talk) 02:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

There are several ways to answer; he's not a practicing Jew; he is not a maternal Jew; he shares with Ukrainian Nazis hatred for Russia; he's in it for the money; he's corrupt to the bone. Need I go on? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:02, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, please go on, Mr. Expert. Explain why these so-called nazis didn't kill him. Nazis do kill Jews, don't they, or did they just up and quit that? Karajou (talk) 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Because he brings home the bacon. $113 billion so far. Please spare your mocking attitude and keep it professional. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

There is no way Zelensky did not know who he was raising his fist to in Parliament, a member of the SS Galicia Division. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

You are talking about an incident in Canada last week. What does that have to do with Ukraine the past few years? Karajou (talk) 03:07, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not sure what your question is, there is video of Zelensky meeting with the Azov on the front lines. Zelensky angrily responding after being rebuked by his own Azov forces. (2:08) RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Can't or won't answer it? It's a simple question. Karajou (talk) 03:18, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Don't get snippy. Read it all yourself. Zelensky holds court with Ukraine’s most notorious neo-Nazi, August 16, 2023. Zelensky has been careful not be photographed with Nazis - until a few weeks ago now that Ukraine is flat on its back, and they are the most fanatical fighters. He met with them to give them recognition.

The man is sick. You might as well ask Hitler why he didn't like the Jews, either. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I don't read spurious websites that make up their own BS, and that BS is based off of Russian propaganda used to invade another country. Jews siding with nazis...that is complete and utter BS, and you should know better than that. Karajou (talk) 03:26, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I can't help it. If you wanna crawl in bed with globalists and neocons, that's your business. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:28, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Typical, as well as repeated, response. Because you don't have an answer. Karajou (talk) 04:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Don't have the answer to what? I'll tell you how Ukraine elected a Russian-speaking Jew who now commands Nazi troops if you can tell me how 200+ American patriots are now sitting the DC gulag. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

And the authors you call "spurious" in the links given, are all Jews. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

What do you call a non-spurious website? CNN? The Washington Post? New York Times? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:33, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

More homework: BBC: Canada Nazi row puts spotlight on Ukraine's WWII past. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 05:50, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

These guys (Zelensky and the Nazis) hate Russia and the Russians. It's a long history. The only good thing about Russia is, it's a little less corrupt than Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

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Zelensky being a Nazi sympathizer has already been added to Conservapedia proven correct. If you have problem with that, take it up it Andy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 05:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)