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- 1 About 4 years ahead of schedule?
- 2 Lying media exposed: Trump's approval number at 52%
- 3 Hottest year ever
- 4 New Day. New Hero: 45 MAGA
- 5 Woman who harassed Trump supporter removed from plane by police
- 6 The most popular reform Republicans could enact
- 7 Trump and abortion
- 8 History in today's schools
- 9 Size does matter
- 10 65% back Trump agenda
- 11 Undocumented Voters
- 12 March for Life
- 13 Typo
- 14 Typo at top of main page
- 15 Left has a cow over refugee halt
- 16 Two for one
About 4 years ahead of schedule?
Please read: American culture war, demographics and expected tipping point after 2020
With a Trump/Pence presidency, we might be about 4 years ahead of schedule!
One again, Professor Eric Kaufmann offered the public his brilliant analysis.
Of course, given that Kaufmann is an agnostic, and not a right-wing Bible believer, we shouldn't expect pinpoint accuracy in terms of his predictions. :) So if Trump/Pence cause his prediction to happen earlier, we should cut him some slack. :)Conservative (talk) 18:55, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- Word is they're gonna take Trump out with a drone strike during the swearing in. Pence wil get nailed, too. So will a bunch of members of Congress, which will slow down cabinet confirmations. That's why 68 Dems are staying away, cause with all the vacant seats there will be a new Congress. Matthis, a loyal NATO man, is the only one confirmed so far. The Russians will be blamed for it, but former CIA boss Papa Bush, who's hiding out in an Austin hospital with Babs Bush right now, is President Emeritus of US globalists and behind it. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 21:16, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- So Rob, if I wake up in my Tasmanian bed tomorrow morning to find that your latest theory is, um, apeshit, who do I blame? AlanE (talk) 22:40, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- If Rob has it right, Ryan will be president. It's goes president, vice president, speaker of the house. So he's third in line. Mattis hasn't been confirmed yet. The senate approved his waiver 60-13 so he can be considered.[1] The waiver issue is the only objection to his nomination that I'm aware of, so I assume he will be confirmed. PeterKa (talk) 22:49, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- That's not what I asked. In Rob's fantasy world, who do I blame? AlanE (talk) 23:36, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- If Ryan gets taken out in the drone strike, succession passes back to the cabinet. Then we have a constitutional problem: while the constitution provides for senate & executive vacancies, it does not provide for vacancies in the House. What happens if enough House members are, euphemistically, 'incapacitated' in the drone strike that a quorem can't be met? Compounded by the likelihood Putin gets blamed for the attack rather than ISIS, and a new president calls for immediate Congressional action on a war with Russia. Meantime Obamacare, Nafta, 35% corporate tax rate, and illegal aliens voting in special elections are safe. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 23:38, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- In a dark way, it does make some sense. However, I'm pretty sure that not even Obama would go that far, and that his underlings would even let him. Feel free to say "I told you so" if there is a rouge drone strike tomorrow, but that seems rather unlikely. --David B (TALK) 23:43, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- If Ryan gets taken out in the drone strike, succession passes back to the cabinet. Then we have a constitutional problem: while the constitution provides for senate & executive vacancies, it does not provide for vacancies in the House. What happens if enough House members are, euphemistically, 'incapacitated' in the drone strike that a quorem can't be met? Compounded by the likelihood Putin gets blamed for the attack rather than ISIS, and a new president calls for immediate Congressional action on a war with Russia. Meantime Obamacare, Nafta, 35% corporate tax rate, and illegal aliens voting in special elections are safe. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 23:38, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- So Rob, if I wake up in my Tasmanian bed tomorrow morning to find that your latest theory is, um, apeshit, who do I blame? AlanE (talk) 22:40, 19 January 2017 (EST)
- A "rouge" drone would have Hillary's lips all over it. AlanE (talk) 00:51, 20 January 2017 (EST)
- It's Papa Bush. He's "enjoying the festivities" from a Texas hospital bed. Barbara Bush is with him to avoid immediate reprisal against his family. He has plausible deniabilty and a doctors note. Jeb Bush is the point man on the ground. Allegations Papa Bush was involved in whacking JFK, the last president the CIA-Deep State removed, need further looking into if they pull this one off. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 07:38, 20 January 2017 (EST)
- Well, no drone has caused any damage yet (even though leftist protestors have), but AlanE, was it really necessary to say "ape****" above in a family-friendly encyclopedia? --1990'sguy (talk) 17:31, 20 January 2017 (EST)
- Thank God we exposed it and disrupted their operational plans. But this doesn't mean the coup plotters will quit. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 08:38, 21 January 2017 (EST)
- Well, no drone has caused any damage yet (even though leftist protestors have), but AlanE, was it really necessary to say "ape****" above in a family-friendly encyclopedia? --1990'sguy (talk) 17:31, 20 January 2017 (EST)
- It's Papa Bush. He's "enjoying the festivities" from a Texas hospital bed. Barbara Bush is with him to avoid immediate reprisal against his family. He has plausible deniabilty and a doctors note. Jeb Bush is the point man on the ground. Allegations Papa Bush was involved in whacking JFK, the last president the CIA-Deep State removed, need further looking into if they pull this one off. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 07:38, 20 January 2017 (EST)
Lying media exposed: Trump's approval number at 52%
His approval number is unchanged since Thanksgiving, according to Rasmussen: 52% View Trump Favorably. PeterKa (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2017 (EST)
At the time of the election, Trump's approval was at minus 21 points. Now it's at minus 8.[2] PeterKa (talk) 18:41, 23 January 2017 (EST)
Hottest year ever
The media is proclaiming 2016 the "hottest year ever." 2016 is supposedly 0.01 degree Celsius warmer that 2015. They haven't had time to compiled all the data for 2016 -- at least not completely enough to be able to say that 0.01 degree is statistically significant. The 1930s were almost certainly warmer, but the Obama regime has adjusted those years downward for political reasons. In any case, there was an El Nino event in 2015-2016, so the unusual weather lately has nothing to do with AGW. The El Nino ended in June and there has been a dramatic cooling since then.[3] PeterKa (talk) 07:44, 20 January 2017 (EST)
New Day. New Hero: 45 MAGA
Put this image on top of the homepage: http://cdn3.thr.com/sites/default/files/2017/01/45_03.jpgEMBED.jpg. PeterKa (talk) 00:43, 21 January 2017 (EST)
- You had to do it, didn't you? Always need to be the first at doing everything. Now if we get a 48th president who's even more dynamic than Trump, no one will get to see that clever joke because it will have already been played. And that future president will have to wring his or her hands and cry out in anguish when they suddenly discover they didn't get to compare themselves to Jack Bauer—even after they tried extra hard to win the 48th presidency, in part, for that very reason. Way to go. VargasMilan (talk) 20:03, 21 January 2017 (EST)
Woman who harassed Trump supporter removed from plane by police
(Two vidoes). Typical of the intimidation and bullying of the Obama era. Newsflash: It's over! RobSMake Exxon Great Again 22:01, 22 January 2017 (EST)
The most popular reform Republicans could enact
Pretty much every other country requires voters to show ID. Mexico's voter ID law is among the strictest. Voter ID has the support of the 74 percent of the American people. Obama thinks Americans care about voter fraud only because we're so racist: "Obama’s Final Whopper as President" PeterKa (talk) 06:11, 23 January 2017 (EST)
- It's an issue left to the states. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 09:09, 23 January 2017 (EST)
Trump and abortion
Did Trump actually issue any executive orders yesterday concerning defunding foreign abortions, as reports had speculated? --1990'sguy (talk) 11:51, 23 January 2017 (EST)
- Yes, this is something rather routine for Republican presidents to do. Anyways, here is another source: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/abortion/315652-trump-signs-executive-order-reinstating-global-gag-rule-on
- And Donald Trump is big on loyalty when it comes to politics. And evangelicals and conservative Catholics played a big role in his election. Conservative (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2017 (EST)
History in today's schools
If today's grade schoolers know about the founding fathers, it's from the musical Hamilton. Martin Luther King is the only historical hero the schools can tell them about. Everyone else is too controversial: "Why schools have stopped teaching American history." The cabinet pick the liberals hate most is school choice advocate Betsy DeVos. The fake news is full of clips depicting her unfavorably. They don't explain the school choice issue, just how "unqualified" DeVos is. Nothing is more important to a liberal than to make sure your children grow up knowing nothing about God, country, the constitution, or anything else that might prepare them for the task of informed citizenship. What do they need to know? Only that the science is settled and that Allah is great. PeterKa (talk) 18:18, 23 January 2017 (EST)
- Exactly why the schools need to be purged of their liberal elements and the teachers' unions need to be disbanded and outlawed. Northwest (talk) 03:28, 24 January 2017 (EST)
- I sure hope DeVos can do something about that. Hopefully I will be shown to be wrong in my thinking that public schools are beyond restoration (even though I don't think I will be). --1990'sguy (talk) 09:48, 24 January 2017 (EST)
- I hadn't realized earlier that liberalism was now a monotheistic MLK cult. FDR was the great liberal hero for many years, but now he's just another cis white male. Jefferson, Jackson, and Kennedy have also been knocked off their pedestals. Liberals have been reduced to stealing conservative heroes like Hamilton and Lincoln. MLK had quite a foul mouth, at least in private. One day, the FBI surveillance tapes will be released.[4] PeterKa (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2017 (EST)
- MLK was a Republican. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 00:24, 25 January 2017 (EST)
- I hadn't realized earlier that liberalism was now a monotheistic MLK cult. FDR was the great liberal hero for many years, but now he's just another cis white male. Jefferson, Jackson, and Kennedy have also been knocked off their pedestals. Liberals have been reduced to stealing conservative heroes like Hamilton and Lincoln. MLK had quite a foul mouth, at least in private. One day, the FBI surveillance tapes will be released.[4] PeterKa (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2017 (EST)
- I sure hope DeVos can do something about that. Hopefully I will be shown to be wrong in my thinking that public schools are beyond restoration (even though I don't think I will be). --1990'sguy (talk) 09:48, 24 January 2017 (EST)
Size does matter
The side-by-side inaugural crowd photos we've seen so much of turns out to be a picture taken during Obama's 2009 address versus a picture taken three hours before Trump spoke in 2017. The actual crowd size was about 800,000 on both occasions: "CNN Quietly Releases Updated Pic Showing Trump’s Inaugural Crowd Size Greater than Obama’s 2009 Inaugural Crowd." 800,000 is a pretty standard figure for inaugural crowd estimates because that's how many people can fit in the Mall. PeterKa (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2017 (EST)
- Indeed, the whole thing is quite ridiculous. But Reuter's photographer Jackson claims that the photo at President Trump's inauguration was taken at 12:01h - the very time President Trump spoke his oath (One image was Trump's inauguration on Friday, taken by Jackson just as Trump took the oath of office, Jackson said.)
- This fits the time-lapse video of the inauguration: The photo shows somewhat the peek of the crowd...
- --AugustO (talk) 08:53, 26 January 2017 (EST)
- The people of Washington D.C. aren't going to attend the inauguration of someone who promises to streamline government (i.e. job loss). They were rather prescient; President Trump made it a theme of his inaugural speech (federal government has prospered while working people have been neglected).
- Also, if this is about viewer size, there wasn't just attendance. There were millions who saw the inauguration on TV and millions more who watched it through the internet. VargasMilan (talk) 12:46, 26 January 2017 (EST)
- One Trump supporter has more sense than 10,000 Obama Zombies. So who really cares about the crowd size - especially when electoral college gives an advantage to the religious right! :) While Hillary supporters are counting the chess pieces they have remaining on the board, Trump supporters are exclaiming checkmate! :)Conservative (talk) 20:40, 26 January 2017 (EST)
- I think what Trump was complaining about was the way it was reported. It was raining. One would expect attendance to fall off, but the media headlined it as a show of a lack of public support. Then anti-Trump activist/employees of the Trump administration further tried to subvert thier boss, while working on the public dime, by doctoring a photograph, which mainstream liars further exploited. I'm with Trump on this one. The behaivior of government employees, media, and anti-Trump activists was revolting. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 15:51, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- Such silly behavior by the media is going to become the norm. They will only change (only possibly) once their fellow leftists do really bad in elections (like a repeat of 1984). --1990'sguy (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- If Trump gains in opinion polls (despite their efforts to stop him) there will be some accomodation reached. Of coarse nowadays, who believes polls? If Trump gains approval, we could finally see the spectre of mainstream media, day after day, explaining why polls are so wrong and can't be trusted. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 23:12, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- And of course, the liberal media will attempt to conveniently spin it to absolve themselves of any blame - that they themselves are behind the polls that were wrong and (along with the liberal media itself) can't be trusted. But as The Who once said in song, we won't get fooled again. Northwest (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)
- If Trump gains in opinion polls (despite their efforts to stop him) there will be some accomodation reached. Of coarse nowadays, who believes polls? If Trump gains approval, we could finally see the spectre of mainstream media, day after day, explaining why polls are so wrong and can't be trusted. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 23:12, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- Such silly behavior by the media is going to become the norm. They will only change (only possibly) once their fellow leftists do really bad in elections (like a repeat of 1984). --1990'sguy (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- I think what Trump was complaining about was the way it was reported. It was raining. One would expect attendance to fall off, but the media headlined it as a show of a lack of public support. Then anti-Trump activist/employees of the Trump administration further tried to subvert thier boss, while working on the public dime, by doctoring a photograph, which mainstream liars further exploited. I'm with Trump on this one. The behaivior of government employees, media, and anti-Trump activists was revolting. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 15:51, 27 January 2017 (EST)
- One Trump supporter has more sense than 10,000 Obama Zombies. So who really cares about the crowd size - especially when electoral college gives an advantage to the religious right! :) While Hillary supporters are counting the chess pieces they have remaining on the board, Trump supporters are exclaiming checkmate! :)Conservative (talk) 20:40, 26 January 2017 (EST)
- Also, if this is about viewer size, there wasn't just attendance. There were millions who saw the inauguration on TV and millions more who watched it through the internet. VargasMilan (talk) 12:46, 26 January 2017 (EST)
65% back Trump agenda
[5] RobSMake Exxon Great Again 06:48, 26 January 2017 (EST)
Undocumented Voters
The current MPR story cites a study from Jesse Richman to claim that 800,000 non-citizens voted for Clinton. The problems with this assertion are numerous: the study only looked at the 2008 and 2010 elections; it was from an opt-in online survey; it was meant to only include citizens, so any noncitizens in the study were included by error anyway. While Richman does believe noncitizen voting exists, he maintains that it did not affect the outcome and has asked Trump to stop citing his study as proof: “I can’t quite account for the math being so badly wrong in their analyses,”
Problems with the claim: https://www.wired.com/2017/01/author-trumps-favorite-voter-fraud-study-says-everyones-wrong/
- Well, I guess this is why the need for an investigation, huh? RobSMake Exxon Great Again 15:43, 27 January 2017 (EST)
March for Life
Does anyone know of attendance to the March for Life in 2016 and today?
It's great news that Mike Pence chose to speak at the event. It is great when politicians who call themselves pro-life actually show their support against murder. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:52, 27 January 2017 (EST)
Typo
"Move evidence" should read "More evidence", MPR. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 14:28, 29 January 2017 (EST)
- Thanks. I fixed it. Conservative (talk) 14:56, 29 January 2017 (EST)
Typo at top of main page
Iscaping Atheism says if you want to debunk atheist claims, Conservapedia "is probably the best place to start. Because nobody debunks atheist lies better than the folks at Conservapedia."
This should start "Escaping Atheism".TypoAt TopOfMainPage (talk) 16:46, 30 January 2017 (EST)
- Thanks. I fixed it. Conservative (talk) 17:03, 30 January 2017 (EST)
Left has a cow over refugee halt
What explains the extraordinary uproar over immigration policy in the last few days? If you got together a room of political consultants and asked them, "What do the Democrats have to do to sweep the 2018 midterms?" I don't think any of them are going to answer, "Stand up for the rights of non-American Muslims." To make this the hill they stand on confirms all the worst stereotypes about leftists. Limbaugh says the policy is total resistance to all things Trump, and the policy specifics are beside the point: "The Left’s Resistance to Trump Isn’t Specific." The Muslim immigration ban was probably Trump's most memorable campaign promise. From his point of view, there had be some dramatic follow through. The current version of the ban applies to seven countries that had already been grouped together by the Obama State Department based on non-religious criteria (although they all happened to be Muslim). PeterKa (talk) 09:00, 31 January 2017 (EST)
- Americans approve of Trump's immigration order by a margin 49 to 41.[6] Perhaps the protests aren't a political strategy after all. They may represent liberals acting on their deepest beliefs. In that case, their deepest belief is to live in a Muslim country, but one that supports transgendered rights and abortion? PeterKa (talk) 19:20, 31 January 2017 (EST)
Heads up on the "refugee" problem. Christians & other non-Muslims there should be no problem with. However a person coming from Syria claiming asylum or "refugee" status -- with no documention he was born in Syria or held Syrian citizenship because he claims it was lost in a war zone, should not, again I repeat, should not be assumed to be a refugee. Please, as this national debate intensifies, do not take the leftist bait and loosely use the term "refuge", or "Syrian refugee". They are migrants. This is precisely the problem in Europe. By the end of this year, ther will probably be 10 million Muslim migrants from all over the Muslim world in Europe, 80% without documention and claiming they are from Syria. Syria had only 22 million inhabitants 5 years ago. The country today is not that depopulated. At best 3.5-4 million have left. And there are important authomatic legal condiderations granted when you use the term "refugee." They are not refugees, they are migrants. Don't even use the term 'Syrian migrant'. Use Muslim migrant or Islamic migrant. RobSMake Exxon Great Again 01:40, 1 February 2017 (EST)
Two for one
I wonder if this idea ever crossed Reagan's mind? Regardless, this could have huge (positive) effects if followed through. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:06, 31 January 2017 (EST)