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Putin Shows African Leaders Draft Peace Treaty Americans Thwarted in March 2022

[2] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:21, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen interrogate Kherson grandfather

[3] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:28, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

This video gives some insight into Putin's phrase about the "greatest tragedy of the 20th century". When asked, "Where were you born?", the old man answers "here" (in Russia), which now the Ukrainian Nazis will exterminate him for giving the wrong answer. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:42, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

A question for Putinist Comsymps

Why is it that the pro-Putin, supposedly "anti-Nazi" site SouthFront has connections to anti-Zionist, Jew-hating propaganda mouthpiece "Veterans Today"? A bit strange that Veterans Today glowingly repeats SouthFront narratives, don't you think?

There's plenty of despicable propaganda on both sides of the NATO–Russia War accusing "the Jews" of masterminding some conspiracy. Well, what is for certain is that Nazis are playing on both sides accusing the other of "Jewish control."

Just on a larger side note, a common recurring theme in history seems to be that "the Jews" are scapegoated for the globalist world order by the very beneficiaries of the internationalist elites; the devious crooks destroy the world and throw the innocent blood that's upon them on the Jews, thereby washing their own hands clean and forcing innocent Jews to take the blame for their crimes. The most notable modern example is arguably the blaming of Jews for Communism which was facilitated instead by the Jesuits, Freemasons, and Wall Street, among others. The Papal Regime creates atheistic Communist ideology as a planned "antithesis" to Christianity (which of course, was to serve the purpose of watering down the influence of the Orthodox Church that long opposed their tyranny; Russia was deposed of Czarist rule by the Bolshevik Revolution) which is blamed on the Jews and then the Papcay takes credit for smashing the Communist Soviet Union. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 17:01, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

I already told you SouthFront is GRU. Wikipedia claims it's the Russian Foreign Ministry. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:05, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Now you are getting into the Syrian war, where Russia supports its ally the Assad regime. Don't confuse the discussion with extraneous facts. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:07, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, I see: the Putinist side is just full of Nazi buddies. [4][5] So much for smashing global Nazism, eh? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 17:09, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Incidentally, what is the purpose of posting Natasha Bertrand to this talk page? Do you pay any attention to your arguments or sources at all? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:36, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

See for example Fake_news#Russiagate_in_a_nutshell: "One of the journalists who most aggressively promoted the fake Trump/Alfa-Bank server story was Natasha Bertrand, who was at the center of so many Russiagate frauds including the Steele Dossier and got promoted over and over for it, as of 2021 working at CNN." Among about 2 dozen other references to her in CP. She warrants her own article, and sure as heck is not a credible source for whatever anti-Putin, neo-nazi point you are trying to make. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:22, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

No, the US/CIA side is. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:11, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, the establishment CIA elitists are funding Ukronazis, but plenty of American Nazis openly support Putin. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 17:18, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Don't shoot from the hip. Read Solzhenitsyn's 200 Years Together. [6] Wikipedia has a surprisingly balanced review. Solzhenitsyn won't fit nicely into your stereotype of an anti-semite or Nazi based on your understanding of the terms from Angelo-American sources and idioms, where some have tried to place Solzhenitsyn in his later years. But his writings about communism and the Jews are widely current in modern Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:40, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

The Solzhenitsyn Center posts this caveat:

"With respect to an English edition—to recapitulate the above—an authorized translation of the full work is in progress and scheduled for publication in 2024.

Meanwhile, readers need to be forewarned that any and all English versions available on the Internet (with two important exceptions listed below) are illegal, pirated, a gross violation of international copyright law, and/or entirely unauthorized; often poorly and loosely translated; and redact passages, and indeed whole chapters, that apparently do not support the prejudices of those behind these illegal editions. English-language readers who wish to learn more about the book are invited to consult the resources listed below. [Bolden in original].

This is one link the Center recommends until the authorized version appears. [7] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:19, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) With the development of the Iranian hypersonic missile (which the racist geniuses in the American military industrial complex haven't figured out how to build yet), changes the fundamental dynamic between Israel, Syria and Iran. If you want to criticize SouthFront & the GRU, stick to relevant facts. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:11, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Bottomline: if you are interested in war news and weapons development, SouthFront has a better reputation for credibility than the US Pentagon, State Department, or White House. Unlike US sources, they are actually concerned about their reputation for credibility. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:17, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

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I'm afraid this discussion is rapidly exposing how little you know about or understand Soviet Communism. The GRU was never a communist organization. The KGB was organized for the distinct purpose of forcing the only organized group in the Soviet Union with guns that posed a potential threat to the regime - the Russian military - to obey the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (likewise, the Nazi SS performed the same function against the German Army). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:57, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Two well publicized historical events can be used to illustrate - and the power dynamic extended throughout the life of both the USSR and the Third Reich.

(1) the Great Purges of 1938. The KGB arrested and tried supposed traitors in the Soviet military;

(2) the July 20, 1944 assassination plot against Hitler. The SS arrested and executed the coup plotters.

In both cases, professional military leadership were neither Nazis nor Communists, but rather patriots who loved their homeland and wanted to protect it from an internal enemy. This dynamic was true in the military establishments of both countries throughout the life of both regimes, and is why the SS & KGB were founded to monitor the professional military and its leadership. Accusing German soldiers or the Russian military of being "nazis" or "communists" is not just naive, it is Germanophobic and Russophobic at heart. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:06, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Now, once you grasp and comprehend this fundamental fact about German Nazism and Soviet Communism, then we can move onto a discussion of Chinese and Cuban communism, which is really quite different. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:10, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Right now, in the United States, the United States military is undergoing the same ideological purging that existed in the USSR and Third Reich throughout their existence. A military establishment needs and has more technical people than ideological (people who studied geometry for artillery rather than Marxist philosophy, for example), so although some technicians are allowed to remain, the ideological police keep an eye on them. My advice: focus on this subject right now in the US, rather than posting your misconceptions about communist and nazi ideology, past and present. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:20, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Papacy and communism

The Papacy didn't create Atheistic Communism. That's a lie and a slander. The Popes were one of the first to condemn Communism.

"Communism is intrinsically wrong, and no one who would save Christian civilization may collaborate with it in any undertaking whatsoever." https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19370319_divini-redemptoris.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:10, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Even Soviet Premier Gorbachev conceded the fall of the Soviet Union would have been impossible without Pope St. John Paul II. Pope St. John Paul II was a Pro-Life Hero and Anti-Communist Champion. Even President Reagan knew that this was True and respected the Pope for it.

"MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Former Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev said Sunday that Pope John Paul II's "devotion to his followers is a remarkable example to all of us." Gorbachev, who once said the collapse of the Iron Curtain would have been impossible without John Paul II, said the pope condemned communism the first time the two met in 1989, shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall." https://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/03/pope.gorbachev/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:13, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Also, regarding Jews, there are Good Jews (e.g. Ben Shapiro) and Bad Jews (e.g. George Soros), just like there are Good Muslims and Bad Muslims etc. Someone who hates all Jews or all Muslims for their ethnicity or some such thing sins in doing so. But, if he legitimately critcizes the bad actions of bad Jews or bad Muslims, that is in no way wrong, but perfectly correct, right and legitimate.

Geinrich Yagoda was a Jewish Mass Murdering Communist Terrorist who killed 10 Million People. These are simple historical facts largely unknown today. Here's a Jewish Site explain it: "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system." https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:16, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

"Good Jews and Bad Jews", or "renegades" as Solzhenitsyn called them in 200 Years. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:09, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

The specifics of the Reagan (and Bill Casey)-John Paul relationship was, the Pope had the network of connections in Poland thru parish priests, and the CIA provided "modern technology" then, i.e. satellite dishes for access to Western media (which at the time was not as communist controlled and dominated as later) which could get around electronic radio broadcast jamming. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:14, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] [EC] NishantXavier, the Papacy promulgates two types of teachings: the exoteric, for the masses, and the esoteric, for the insiders. While they publicly claim to oppose Communism, why is it that Communist leaders are influenced by Jesuits? Take, for instance, Fidel Castro. I believe Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin were also Jesuit-trained. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 17:17, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

False. Where's your proof Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin were trained by Jesuits?

And did you read your own link? "1959 – Castro takes power by leading a Marxist revolution. He bans religious celebrations, closes down more than 400 Catholic schools, including Belen, seizes church properties, and jails and expels Catholic priests.

1962 – The Vatican, which had excommunicated all Catholics involved with communist groups in its 1949 Decree Against Communism, adds Fidel Castro to the list of those ejected from the church." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King}

Re: What if the Jesuits influenced Castro, Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin? I am not saying they did, but what if they did?

This is a big nothing burger as oftentimes you largely can't control who chooses to follow you or who is influenced by you. For example, if I launch a chess-related Twitter account and some neo-Nazi chooses to follow that Twitter account, does this make me a Nazi? This is a classic case of the logical fallacy guilt by association. Conservative (talk) 13:07, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

Allies vow Billions to help Rebuild Ukraine at London Conference

"British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced a new framework for war risk insurance on June 21, aimed at helping businesses invest in Ukraine.

"This is a huge step forward towards helping insurers to underwrite investments into Ukraine, removing one of the biggest barriers and giving investors the confidence they need to act," Mr. Sunak said at the Ukraine Recovery Conference in London.

Allies vow billions in aid Ukraine’s allies pledged several billion dollars in non-military aid on Wednesday to rebuild its war-ravaged infrastructure, fight corruption and help pave the country’s road to membership in the European Union.

Stressing the vast scale of the task, diplomats and political leaders at the Ukraine Recovery Conference in London urged private-sector companies to invest and revive an economy battered by almost a year and a half of war." https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/rishi-sunak-announces-new-war-risk-insurance-framework-to-boost-ukraine-rebuild/article66993000.ece

See also: "Russia’s Biggest Problem: Ukrainians Want to Keep Fighting" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4olUtjDGyc NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:33, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

Not gonna happen anytime soon. NATO will be de-nazified first. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:50, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

U.S. Admits Defeat In War On Russia And China

"Confronted with the realities of life the Biden administration has in the last days acknowledged defeat in two of its most egregious and delusional foreign policy games.

"The Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. Its army is getting slaughtered on the battlefield. The 'counteroffensive' of the 'NATO trained' Ukrainian brigades has made no real progress on any front. The high level of losses of men and material make it impossible that it will ever again regain the initiative....

"The other U.S. defeat was acknowledged by U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken at the end of his trip to Bejing:

The United States will not support Taiwan breaking away from China, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has said, amid a series of confusing statements by Joe Biden on the issue.

'We do not support Taiwan independence,' America's top diplomat said in Beijing after meeting with Chinese president Xi Jingping.[8]

RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:30, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

African Delegation urges Putin to start Peace Talks with Ukraine

God Bless them. Africa is suffering heavily from Putin's War, as it suffered heavily under the Communist CCP Covid Virus also. Poor Africa.

"Adelegation of African leaders has urged Russian President Vladimir Putin to begin peace talks with Ukraine during a meeting with the Russian leader in St. Petersburg.

"We would like to encourage you to start negotiations with Ukraine," Azali Assoumani, the president of Comoros and the current chairman of the African Union (AU), told Putin on Saturday, according to the Russian news agency Interfax.

South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said, "We are convinced that the time has come for both sides to start negotiations and end this war." https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/african-delegation-urges-putin-to-start-peace-talks-with-ukraine NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:38, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

South Africa has no leverage. And its country has corrupt and incompetent leadership that is the cause of its rolling blackouts.

The country is moving towards being a failed state. Conservative (talk) 10:30, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

As a founding member of BRICS, South Africa has plenty of leverage. Let's not get into the game of Biden State Depatments's racist slandering and disrespect for Africans. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:27, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Once again, Nishant is only getting half the story. The Biden State Department had the Polish government hold the African press corp hostage in Warsaw while Ramaphosa travelled on to Kyiv where Zelensky, on US instructions, rejected the offer to mediate peace talks out of hand, with no press there to cover it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:47, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

This a good illustration how propaganda narratives are formed: After the US thwarting Russia-Ukraine peace talks for a second time, the headline Nishant posted makes it appear Putin is thwarting peace talks when the talks fail to materialize. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:10, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Again, you have to have some kind of strategy in your mind, as you pray and work for the world to get better. My prayer/hope is that Putin loses the 2024 elections and leaves. The Next Russian Leader, and Ukraine, negotiate a Just Peace. Problem Solved. Then, De Santis wins. (Not guaranteed, of course, it has to be prayed and worked for; but it's important if you really care to defeat the LBGT/Woke Agenda, as you profess). So that battle must be fought and won like that, 2 issues solved. As for South Africa et al, I think the Global South is of the Greatest Importance, if for nothing else because of its significant population. Boris Johnson called some of the Global South Countries, "Global Swing States", showing many of the leaders of NATO countries, and Ukraine too, are recognizing how important it is to have support from African and Latin American Countries. And, to go one step further, I would say, just as NATO is already planning to expand into Asia and the Indo-Pacific, the next logical step, necessary also so as not to discriminate and exclude no one, is also to welcome Latin American and African Countries who want to join. Of course, if there is Islamic Radicalism, as in some countries in North Africa, that's a problem. But in other Countries, including Nigeria where Christians are heavily persecuted, those countries could actually use NATO assistance and help to preserve the Peace and end Persecution of Christians and other Innocents, and defeat Islamic Radicalism. All these are big ideas for how to make the world better in the 21st Century. NATO's current thinking is still fairly limited imo. With better leaders, things will get better in time. I support Estonian PM Kaja Kallas for next NATO leader. Eastern European Countries, that suffered most severely under Soviet Communism (remember, some 12-20 MN Christians died under Soviet persecutions, including in Eastern European Countries), know it best. World Peace is important for many reasons including the spread of the Gospel. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:39, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, I want Santa to bring me a Mercedes Benz for Christmas. Till then, I have to live in the here and now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:52, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

And OMG! " My prayer/hope is that Putin loses the 2024 elections and leaves. The Next Russian Leader, and Ukraine, negotiate a Just Peace. Problem Solved."

What? OMG! You mean NATO is warring against a democracy, and trying to destroy another democratic state? OMG! RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:54, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

O ye of little faith, read this first: "But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord." (James 1:6-8). NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:59, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

And, NATO is not warring against anyone. Complete Non Sequitur. The US and UK are keeping up their Contractual Obligations under the Budapest Memorandum to Protect Ukraine in the event of a Russian Invasion. The other NATO countries also have that obligation, because a prospective NATO member also deserves certain security assurances and guarantees, like for e.g. Finland had before its accession. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:01, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

We've discussed the Budapest memorandum before. If there were any truth to the claim, "The US and UK are keeping up their Contractual Obligations under the Budapest Memorandum to Protect Ukraine", why didn't the US and UK defend Ukraine's territorial integrity with US and UK troops in 2014 at the time of the Crimean Annexation, instead of waiting 8 years while their Kyiv puppet regime murdered 14,000 Russian speaking citizens of Ukraine with the US-supplied weapons and training? And they are not keeping their "contractual obligations" now; where are the US and UK troops on the ground they promised in 1994? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:02, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

You said it. It's a question you must answer now. Is Russia authoritarian or democratic? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:09, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. Look at your sophisms. First, (1) Russia blatantly violated its commitments under the BM, right from 2014 itself, second (2) the UK and US are keeping it. Your argument is, because they didn't do as much as they could have and should have immediately, therefore they shouldn't do now either? At least they woke up now. It's like arguing, if FDR and Churchill tried to negotiate in the beginning with Hitler, after his invasion of some countries, therefore, they should never have tried to stop him. Doesn't follow. They tried to negotiate as long as they thought it was possible. When they realized it was impossible, they stopped trying, and just fought back. It's same here.

You are being redundant and spamming. Address the specific questions: Was the democratic government that signed the Budapest protocols in 1994 overthrown in 2014? Secondly, did the US commit to supplying boots on the ground in 2014 with the Budapest memorandum? Do not spam with redundant postings. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:38, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

As for whether Russia has a democracy, yes, it does in theory; there are multiple candidates, however if you criticize Putin too sharply, and are a serious opponent who could actually win, he'll have you poisoned or shot, or thrown in prison. Just ask Nemtsov or Navalny. Or you can try moving to Russia, and then criticizing Putin's "special military operation" just to see how much democratic freedoms and freedom of speech really exist in Putin's Russia. Don't actually try it, because the KGB/FSB will be knocking your door soon. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:29, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Repentance is to have a change of mind - to recognize and admit that you chose to believe Satanic lies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:13, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

And a brief comment on prayer: prayer is not about God fulfilling a wish list - I think you have it completely backwards. Prayer is asking God to help your mind align with God's mind. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:45, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Nope, both your comments are mistaken, and reflect certain, Lutheran/Liberal errors. Repentance is not just a "change of mind", it is that, but it is more than that; it is a complete transformation of the whole person, a change both of mind and of heart, i.e. of will. When Mary Magdalene repented of her former life, she chose not to love sin any longer but to love Christ instead. Same with Zaccheus and others. So too, if someone repents of say, cussing/swearing, he should not just "change his mind about it", but also start learning to love new things, i.e. speaking of Christ and holy things, rather than of evil things etc. So repentance must be a heartfelt transformation.

As for whether those supporting Ukraine need to repent, why would we? Do those supporting Poland when it was fighting Nazi Thugs from one side and Commie Thugs from another in its Self-Defense need to repent. Nope. If anything, the other side needs to repent. Our Conscience is clear before God. As for Prayer, again it's not just about [mind] [remniscent of faith alone]. It's about aligning your will with God's will, and asking and praying for those things God wills to come about, for e.g. the Salvation of Souls, or World Peace, through Christ, the Prince of Peace; The Lord's prayer says, "Thy Will be done", and God's Will is "that no one should perish, but all should come to repentance" (2 Pet 3:9), for your Father "wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the Truth and be saved" (1 Tim 2:4) etc.

So, those who pray for the Salvation of Souls, and for World Peace, which greatly helps the Great Commission go forward, are doing the Will of God. Doing the Will of God is necessary for salvation according to: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will. enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who. does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Mat 7:21), so I will continue to do it. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:37, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

St. John teaches this in 1 Jn 5: "14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:42, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

I just don't share your love of neo-Nazi killers and warmongers, and hope you repent. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:54, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

Prez. Zelensky responds to Russia's Chaos with Putin and Prighozin

"Today, the world saw that the bosses of Russia do not control anything. Nothing at all. Complete chaos. Complete absence of any predictability.

First, the world should not be afraid. We know what protects us. Our unity.

Ukraine will definitely be able to protect Europe from any Russian forces, and it doesn't matter who commands them. We will protect. The security of Europe's eastern flank depends only on our defense.

Ukrainian soldiers, Ukrainian guns, Ukrainian tanks, Ukrainian missiles are all that protect Europe from such marches as we see today on Russian territory. And when we ask to give us the F-16 fighters or the ATACMS, we're enhancing our common defense. Real defense.

Second, everything must be real. It's time for everyone in the world to frankly say that all of Russia's criminal actions against Ukraine were and are unprovoked. And we all have to focus exclusively on our common security priorities. NATO is not just a word or a set of formal promises. These are reliable guarantees for everyone that peace won't be destroyed. Without Ukraine, such guarantees are worthless. Already in July at the summit in Vilnius, it is a historic chance for real decisions without looking back at Russia. Any nation that borders Russia supports this.

What will we, Ukrainians, do?

We will defend our country. We will defend our freedom. We will not be silent and we will not be inactive. We know how to win – and it will happen. Our victory in this war.

And what will you, Russians, do?

The longer your troops stay on Ukrainian land, the more devastation they will bring to Russia. The longer this person is in the Kremlin, the more disasters there will be." https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1672662657881571332 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:00, June 24, 2023 (EDT)

Defense Minister of Ukraine Oleksii Reznikov: "Brilliant example of @RobertaMetsola @EP_President combating hypocrisy and “appeasement” with honesty and truth. Dear Madam President, thank you for your commitment to and support of Ukraine and of democracy. We believe in the EU. We value your trust in us and in our fight for freedom. We will win together. 🇺🇦🤝🇪🇺" https://twitter.com/oleksiireznikov/status/1670894459616149504 [Video in the link] NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:05, June 24, 2023 (EDT)

Former U.S. Green Beret whou fought in Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine. Ukraine is this Generation's "Most Righteous War"

"A Former U.S. Green Beret Fought In Iraq, Afghanistan, And Ukraine. He Says Ukraine Is His Generation's 'Most Righteous War.' David Bramlette is a former U.S. Army Ranger and Green Beret who commanded a team in Ukraine's Foreign Legion for 10 months last year. He currently works for the Romulus T. Weatherman Foundation, an NGO that leads operations in Ukraine to identify, recover, and repatriate Americans killed in action.

In an interview from Kyiv recently with RFE/RL Georgian Service's Vazha Tavberidze, Bramlette said the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a classic case of "good versus evil," gives high marks to the Ukrainian military but isn't impressed with their Russian counterparts, and chides the West for overrating Russian forces. Bramlette also likes the chances of the Ukrainian military as it is now beginning a long-anticipated counteroffensive, explaining that Ukraine's fighting capabilities are on an upward trajectory while Russia's military is heading in the opposite direction.

RFE/RL: As an Army Ranger, you fought in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Apparently, that wasn't enough. You came back to fight more, to fight for Ukraine. Why do you think this war is your war?

David Bramlette: First off, I think this is probably the most righteous war that my generation will see. In my mind, this is good versus evil. I was sitting in grad school at Johns Hopkins [University] in my last semester, and we were talking about whether Russia would invade conventionally. And, I'll be honest, I didn't think they're going to do it. I didn't think they could be that dumb, honestly, and they did. I served in Ranger Regiment and Special Forces Group and, you know, 10th Special Forces Group and special forces more generally, our motto is De Oppreso Liber, which stands for: to free the oppressed." https://www.rferl.org/a/former-us-green-beret-iraq-afghanistan-ukraine-/32469454.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:05, June 24, 2023 (EDT)

SLOW-MO VERSION OF BRITISH MERCENARIES GETTING BLOWN AWAY BY A MINE IN ZAPOROZHYE. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:32, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine Counter Offensive Updates

"KYIV (Reuters) - Ukraine's armed forces have halted a Russian offensive towards the cities of Kupiansk and Lyman in the east of the country, and are advancing in the south, a senior Ukrainian defence official said on Friday."

From: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-06-23/ukraine-says-it-advances-in-south-stops-russian-attack-in-east NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:25, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Reuters again, huh? Halted the offensive with paintball guns again? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:47, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Speaking of Kupyansk, glad you brought this to our attention, aka 'waiting for the other shoe to drop'. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:29, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Military Summary channel: The Battle Of Kupyansk. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:23, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Infographics Show: How Russia is Regressing back to the Soviet Era

Infograhics Show is an extremely informative You Tube Channel that makes nice videos

Watch this video: How Russia is Slipping Back Into the Soviet Era. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:09, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

More problematic indications of the same:

"More than 1,000 people attended a ceremony on Red Square on Sunday to mark the 70th anniversary of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's death.

Led by Russia's Communist Party, the event drew people waving Soviet flags or holding portraits of Stalin at the site on the Kremlin wall where he is buried.

Stalin's image has been gradually restored in Russia in recent decades despite the atrocities carried out under his rule — and his legacy looms over Russia's present-day offensive on Ukraine." https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/06/russian-communists-mark-70-year-anniversary-of-stalins-death-a80399

"A record 70 percent of Russians approve of Soviet leader Josef Stalin’s role in Russian history, according to a poll published by the independent Levada Center pollster on Tuesday.

Stalin’s image has been gradually rehabilitated in the 2000s from that of a bloody autocrat to an “outstanding leader.” President Vladimir Putin has revived the Soviet anthem, Soviet-style military parades and a Soviet-era medal for labor during his presidency."

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/16/stalins-approval-rating-among-russians-hits-record-high-poll-a65245

Putin's 20 odd years in absolute power in the Kremlin have been very bad for Russia on the whole. Russia needs a new leader. Prayers. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:23, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

You are being redundant. You posted up the garbage about 70 percent from the CIA funded Moscow Times on this page before. We don't need it again. You basically insult people as if they are stupid by repeating the same crap over and over again - especially when it can be deemed as having xenophobic or Russophobic intent (which is to be expected from the CIA). Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:28, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Putin hasn't had 20 years of absolute power. First of all, he had to build the power that he has now by removing opposing media, taking out rivals, etc over time. Also, this recent mutiny shows that he still does not have absolute power. Putin's power isn't equivalent to the power that North Korea's leader has. Why doesn't Putin have as much internal power within his country as the leader of North Korea? Due to Russia being a culture that is both Eastern-Western (Eastern culture is more autocratic than Western culture), Russia has been influenced by the West so it is harder to establish a more absolutist type of power. Conservative (talk) 07:32, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Well spoken. I see you've done some study. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:43, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. Due to the East being more autocratic, I think it will take China's underlying weaknesses (graying and shrinking population, worsening economy, bad effects of Xi having too much power) to become worse before the Chinese Communist Party is thrown out of power. Conservative (talk) 07:49, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) There will be an Approval poll out within the next 30 days. From that we gage the percentage of hardliners who support Prigozhin's anti-corruption campaign, and patriots who support Putin's moderate approach to Ukraine. Putin peaked at 83% some months ago, and his latest was 80% (with Biden polling 37% in the same timeframe). He won his last election with 63%, so obviously there is support from his political opposition for his foreign policy.

I would take issue with the claim of "removing opposing media" {as Zelensky has done). Reporting on the Wagner mutiny was not censored. In fact, unlike the United States and the supposed "democratic" West, Russians have access to CNN and all the Western BS media, as well. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:55, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

The only "opposing media" removed is Soros/CIA funded media interfering in Russia's domestic internal affairs. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:57, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

That's why the CIA-funded Moscow Times is headquartered in Belgium. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:59, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Now, let's look at the Moscow Times Russophobic hate speech reporting for a minute: 1,000 people in city of 5 million is a smaller percentage than the percentage of seats held by the Communist party in the state Duma, or people who identify as affiliated with the Communist party in opinion polls. That's quite a stretch to create a news article for the purpose of slandering Russia and Putin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:04, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Recall my rant about the amateurishness of the CIA: How come with a single click any idiot can see the Moscow Times comes from EU & NATO headquarters and not Moscow? Secondly, despite an 80% approval rating, how come Putin can only muster 1,000 communists to worship Stalin if Putin is indeed a communist? The CIA amateurs and idiots who write that stuff really do assume that you yourself are an idiot. And if you take it seriously, you really are. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

RobS, wrote above: "Russians have access to CNN and all the Western BS media".

First of all and this is a key point: "Only 10% of people can speak English in Russia."[9]

Also, "In his campaign to control what ordinary Russians can learn about the war in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has made a notable exception. He has blocked or restricted Facebook, Twitter, and most other Western-based social media sites, but one major platform — YouTube — remains available."[10]

Furthermore:

"After Moscow erected a digital barricade in March, blocking access to independent news sites and social media platforms to hide information about its unfolding invasion of Ukraine, many Russians looked for a workaround. One reliable route they found came from a small Swiss company based nearly 2,000 miles away.

The company, Proton, provides free software that masks a person’s identity and location online. That gives a user in Russia access to the open web by making it appear that the person is logging in from the Netherlands, Japan or the United States. A couple of weeks after the internet blockade, about 850,000 people inside Russia used Proton each day, up from fewer than 25,000.

That is, until the end of March, when the Russian government found a way to block Proton, too.

Targeting Proton was the opening salvo of a continuing back-and-forth battle, pitting a team of about 25 engineers against a country embarking on one of the most aggressive censorship campaigns in recent memory."[11]

So by Putin aggressively going after opposing media which speaks Russian within his country, it has a big effect. And then he further tightens things by having some restrictions on the internet as far as foreign influence. Conservative (talk) 08:30, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Ahhh, Twitter Files, CIA Vault 7, the Snowden revelations (not to mention the human rights violations and prosecution of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks) document Twitter and Facebook in bed with NSA, FBI, CIA, and US intelligence community (not unlike US charges against TikTok and data mining). Heck, if I were president, I'd probably ban Twitter & Facebook in the US for election interference and destroying American democracy. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:38, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

A side note: Because Russian cat videos are no doubt very popular in Russia, Putin found it too unpopular to block YouTube in Russia. I hope this clarifies things. Conservative (talk) 08:40, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

US global media is available in all kinds of languages. And no, the Russians are not that stupid that they can't translate CNN from whatever language it broadcasts in. RT is blocked in the US, RL/RFE is available in Russia.

The simple fact is, Russia has more open access to global media than the US, EU, or China. (By global media, I am referring to global news sources, and not necessarily social media). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:45, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

I just went to the Russia Today website https://www.rt.com/ yesterday. It is not blocked in the USA despite it being Russian state media. Sputnik news, another Russian state media outlet, is also not blocked in the USA. Conservative (talk) 08:49, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

It's blocked on Youtube and Facebook. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:51, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

IMO, the average Russian drunk high school drop out is more sophisticated at sorting through the BS and propaganda of global news media than the average Western college graduate. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:51, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

In Russia, sorting through BS propaganda is in the genes after 70 years of Soviet communism and propaganda - something only now Americans are being subjected to and exposed daily 100 years after the creation of the Soviet Union. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:55, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

All governments with any degree of sophistication use manufactured consent in order to maintain power (education system, government influencing media, governments influencing corporations and corporate influence via PR/lobbyists, etc.). It's just a matter of degree on how much manufacturing is done in order for the more elite of society to gain additional power. Conservative (talk) 08:57, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) As a student of history and historiography, the 70 year captivity of the USSR presents a unique problem: it is a giant blackhole for using the ordinary techniques historical researchers use. So the Russian educational system, beginning in the elementary grades, has to deal with this problem, knowing things like official Soviet encyclopedias and government documents are unreliable. For a historically-minded society, children must be taught skills to learn how to decipher truth, and facts, and history.

The West doesn't even teach history. It teaches the Nazis are democratic freedom fighters. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:07, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Let me relate an interesting story: Russia sanctions have banned Hollywood movies from Russian cinemas. So this has led to a rebirth of interest in Soviet films. When you go the cinema now, it's not just for entertainment. You are doing historical research on the Soviet film industry. Being aware of the Soviet Union's dark past, and the fact that these films were made the last time the West imposed sanctions for 50 years during the Cold War, leads to a whole new understanding of Russian and Soviet history, and art, and film making. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:25, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

There are many indications Russia, under Putin, is regressing back to the Communist or Soviet era, and I just posted some of them. Hero-worshipping Commie Thug Stalin is just one example that exemplifies that. The fact, however, that some Russians in the recent Prighozin incident, celebrated and shook hands with the Wagner mercenaries, and were in a celebratory mood, when he was challenging Putin, suggests many Russians - perhaps the relatives or friends of those Thug Putin has thrown in jail for criticizing his "Special Military Operation", or called it a War - are tired of the Putin regime and would be happy to see it go. Russia deserves a free and post-Putin future. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:41, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

You just posted a bunch of US intelligence propaganda and crap - you know, the same guys who whacked JFK, disrupted the Trump administration, overthrew Ukrainian democracy, and interfered in US elections and lied about it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:00, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

60 Minutes Australia: The Women standing up to Vladimir Putin: https://youtu.be/HzjLy-lAIxE NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:47, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, the people who cheered Prighozin were probably in favor of Russia's February 2022 invasion of Ukraine and were happy that Prighozin was often more effective than the Russian army. They also thought his complaints about pro-Russia soldiers not being adequately equipped was a justifiable complaint. In other words, I think you are projecting your thoughts/feelings onto most Russians. The majority of Russia appears to still be pro-Putin. Pro-Putin media, Russian government outreaches to the youth (education, youth groups, etc.), political rallies, etc. contribute to pro-Putin sentiments and Russian nationalism. Conservative (talk) 15:01, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Wagner mutiny is a case study. It's origins were more than a month ago. When it occurred, Prigozhin himself said it was protest against Shoigu & Gerasimov - the equivalents of Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley, and not Putin himself. His "March for Justice" was not against Putin, but rather the corrupt Russian military industrial complex. Just go back now and examine the reporting from any and all news sources prior to Putin getting involved by making a nationwide speech. You should now be able to make a determination which news sources are either ignorant about Russia and Russia's domestic politics, or deliberately malicious toward Vladimir Putin and lying to you with propaganda. Any source that headlined words to the effect of "Coup against Putin" fits one of those two categories. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:11, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

It was February 2022 invasion, not 2020. Well, possibly, I suppose; but they were cheering on Prighozin at precisely the time when he was opposing Putin. Usually, you can't oppose Putin in any serious way in Russia, as that 60 Minutes Australia interview shows, without being jailed, or thrown out of windows, or poisoned, or something. I think we're yet to see what would happen if serious opponents to Putin had freedom to campaign for a better Post-Putin Russian Future. 15:13, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Prigozhin was NOT opposing Putin! You are brainwashed! RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:19, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. Fixed typo for date of invasion to February 2022. Conservative (talk) 16:21, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) At a deeper level, the mutiny also disproves the idea that Putin is an absolute dictator. Prigozhin thought (and still believes, along with a sizeable slice of Russian society) that corruption in the Russian government can be rooted out without removing Putin, i.e. that Putin is not the cause, and that Putin doesn't have the power to do it himself. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:17, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Keep telling yourself that, bro. It must be pleasant to live in la-la-land. Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, Prighozin said this about Putin and the corruption, deceit and hypocrisy of the Putin Administration.

"Wagner leader hits back at Putin Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has responded to President Vladimir Putin’s “betrayal” comments, suggesting in fact that the mercenary group’s soldiers are Russian “patriots.”

“The president makes a deep mistake when he talks about treason,” Prigozhin said in an audio message.

Prigozhin also said that Wagner forces would not be “turning themselves in and confess at the order of the president, the FSB (security service) or anyone else. Because we don’t want the country to continue to live any longer in corruption, deceit and bureaucracy.”

Earlier on Saturday, Putin said Wagner fighters were traitors who must be punished." https://thewire.in/world/wagner-group-mutiny-russia-putin Prighozin negotiated hard and tough and got amnesty for himself and his men after criticizing Putin. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:29, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Another Infographics Video: "Every battle fought, every road and building bombed, every bullet fired, every intercepted missile; every bit of ground a tank trudges over; this is all extremely costly. And for every person killed in action, there is a huge price to be paid, not just for their family but also for their country. As we’ll show you many times in this video, working out the monetary cost of war is far from simple. It’s very hard to know exactly how many rockets are fired, how much hardware is destroyed, and what it costs a nation when you lose infrastructure and young men that should have been working in your economy. But today, we’ll try to put a price tag on this war, not just for the past and present, but the costs in the years to come. The ripple effects of this war will be felt for decades, especially in the poorest segments of both Russia and Ukraine. We’re going to start with the cost of war for Russia and finish with some quite shocking data regarding what this war has cost and will cost Ukraine." https://youtu.be/spu_H27iQqs NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:33, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Bingo. Now you are displaying your lack of reading comprehension skills. Prigozhin did not initiate a coup against Putin; when Putin got involved and went on national TV, only THEN did Prigozhin start trash talking Putin (after months of publicly trash talking the military industrial complex) and immediately backed down and accepted a comprise offer. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:35, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Prigozhin believed he could initiate a popular uprising against Shoigu and Gerasimov, get them removed, and possibly get Putin to appoint himself as Defense Minister. This should give insight in the Russian political system and society. Anything that doesn't make this clear is BS propaganda (either uninformed, or malicious).

The latest reports are Prigozhin was successful - that Shoigu and Gerasimov were indeed sacked. But we have to wait for confirmation, which may take months. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:38, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Russian and American military industrial complexes have been at war with each other since the late 1940s. Both have become wasteful and corrupt. When the political situation changed in 1991, that war did not end. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:48, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Other than drastically cutting back USA's funding to the Ukrainians as I believe that Europe should be the primary funder and provider of manpower because it is in their backyard, I cannot say that I am pro-Ukraine or pro-Russia because both countries are authoritarian and corrupt (But that is a moot point because much of Europe has lukewarm support for Ukraine compared to the USA). Also, I believe the Ukrainians are hopelessly outmatched when it comes to their vain attempts to gain back a substantial amount territory back because they are outmanned and face strongly defended Russian positions (Mines, barbed wire, defense in depth trenches, intersecting machine gun fire nests, fortified defensive command centers, a lot of heavy artillery, etc.). So prolonging the war, cost a lot of unnecessary bloodshed on both sides and adversely affected the world's food supplies as Ukraine has a lot of good farmland. In addition, the sanctions hurt the West and reduced Russian profit margins on natural gas so both sides were hurt. Furthermore, Ukraine was wrecked. A peace agreement should have been hammered out and finalized early in the war, but it appears as if Boris Johnson helped nix this effort. Conservative (talk) 16:42, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

Why is it you openly criticize Vladimir Putin but remain silent on the neo-Nazi Zelensky regime? [12] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:28, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

With that being said, although the Infographics YouTube channel may say some correct things about Ukraine/Russia, it is a Ukraine cheerleading YouTube channel and is very biased. Conservative (talk) 16:30, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

HAHA! "Russia is now cut off from the world economy which means the specter of food shortages now looms ahead."

OMG, how can you guys be so dumb? China, the world's largest economy, India, and the Global South are not part of the "world economy"? Russia, the world's largest food and fertilizer producer, with more food than people it can feed, faces the spectre of food shortages? I stopped watching there.

You guys, I can only supply you with facts about this war and Russia; I can't (or more accurately, don't have the time to) teach you how to think. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:06, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

For example. Cons: No, it is not (just) "Ukraine cheerleading"; it is programmed globalist propaganda (aimed at school kids). Call it what it is, rather than blathering about nothing to no effect. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:09, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

Support for Ukraine Aid remains high among US public

[Just passing through and on my phone. Will be back later]

Sad to see some resort to ad hominems, slurs and expletives. Probably an admission that ones position cannot face up to the Truth.

And regarding: "No State shall organize, assist, foment, finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the regime of another State, or interfere in civil strife in another State.", someone should tell Putin because that's exactly what he did in Ukraine. I agree with Conservative that Prighozins rebellion shows Putin is a bad leader. There were signs of Prighozhins anger for a long time, as the Kremlin mismanaged the war more and more badly. Whether or not Prighozin was in discussion with Ukraine is beside the point.

Anyway, here is the info: "Support for sending military aid to Ukraine remains high among the American public, according to a new poll, but many want European allies to do more ...

Of 1,254 American adults surveyed, 59 percent said they support military aid to Ukraine, nearly double the 30 percent opposed. That is virtually unchanged from a the Reagan Insitute’s prior poll last November, which recorded 57 percent in favor of aid and 33 percent opposed. The questions were phrased differently. 

“The polling does not indicate that there’s Ukraine fatigue or aid fatigue,” said Rachel Hoff, policy director at the Reagan Institute. “There’s not decreasing levels of support for sending military aid to Ukraine. That’s remained consistent.” The Kremlin has not succeeded in persuading the world to look the other way. Ukraine will become a Nato member soon, and Putin will have to withdraw his troops. That's looking more and more likely. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:16, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Putin should have never launched his special operation in February of 2022. Some simple polling in the USA/Ukraine might have shown him the degree of resolve that the Ukrainians/Americans would potentially have. Common sense alone would have told Putin that you don't get into a potential war of attrition when you are faced with a demographic winter due to your country's subreplacement fertility rate and foreigners' reluctance to move to your country (See: Russia's fertility rate). Conservative (talk) 12:32, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Every day, the Russians are slowly retreating - and he real counter-offensive is yet to come

"‘Every day, the Russians are slowly retreating – and the real counter-offensive is yet to come’ Father and son fighting against the Russians in Bakhmut say it was ‘almost fun’ to watch Wagner mutiny as Ukrainians continue their advance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/26/wagner-failed-coup-ukraine-soldiers-trenches-bakhmut/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:35, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Again, let me restate, the Western "experts" don't know anything about Russian military tactics or doctrine. The Russians are not fighting for territory, unlike NATO/Ukraine which is. The Russians are fighting to demilitarize Ukraine, i.e. destroy its army. Like Bakhmut and Stalingrad, the Russians draw in an attacking force, making them extend their supplies, encircle them and destroy them. Then reclaim the vacant territory.

Ukraine has not reached the Russian frontlines yet, and is fighting its way through the grey Zone (or No man's land) to reach the Russian fortifications. Along the 676 km front, the closest they have got so far is maybe 4 or 5 km. on average, it's been 20-30 kms. Someplaces 10-12 kms. Once they reach the frontline fortifications, they'll be chewed up. Each day that passes allows the Russians to further dig and resupply, whereas NATO/Ukraine is suffering horrendous losses of its limited manpower and material reserves, while extending its supply lines.

Ukraine is not fighting for any real military of strategic objective; it's conducting a PR war until July 11, hoping to get more aid. And the Russians are fine with that, cause it means bleeding NATO of resources a little more. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:35, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Meanwhile, the civilian populations of NATO turn against its leadership because of inflation and economic hardship, whereas you've just seen a united Russia behind its leadership. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:37, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

I spoke to the owner of the website about the main page talk dissension and infighting

I spoke to Andy about the main page talk dissension and infighting.

Andy mentioned one of the root causes. He said that some editors are ignoring the 90/10 rule.

I think Andy is correct about this matter.

What is the 90/10 rule?

The 90/10 rule is designed to encourage productive edits to our encyclopedia articles, essays and debates (see also: Conservapedia essays and Conservapedia debates). The purpose of the 90/10 rule is to discourage unproductive editing such as belligerent editing and trolling at Conservapedia (Please see: Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks and Conservapedia:Inappropriate/trolling behavior - Examples).

The 90/10 rule discourages users from spending 90% of their time complaining, carping, cutting people down and forming cabals at Conservapedia - and only 10% actively helping to craft good encyclopedia articles/essays and participate in Conservapedia debates. Useful editing means making worthwhile edits and includes collaborative efforts to improve articles/essays on talk pages. The rule is applied to a person's editing activitity as a whole and not smaller periods of editing. For example, if users have a history of productive editing and they are editing talk pages to improve articles/essays, participate in debates or make various improvements to Conservapedia, the 90/10 rule will not be applied to them. The 90/10 rule is only applied to disruptive editors.

Conservapedia encourages collaboration to improve articles, essays and debates. Conservative (talk) 20:11, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

What are you suggesting? block Nishant? Man, you did a good job there, huh? Didn't you? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:15, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant can follow the 90/10 rule. If he doesn't then he should be corrected.

RobS, I would suggest not using the main page talk as a bulletin board about the war in Ukraine. Because that is literally inviting people to disagree with you. And unfortunately, you have not been civil in some of those discussions (blocking dissenting views with templates, falsely calling people Nazis, etc.).

And of course, you and I can follow 90/10 too. Admins should lead by example.

In the past, Conservapedians focused more on content. That was good for traffic. People want to read articles or well-structured and civil debates on debate pages. They don't want to read a lot of uncivil wrangling on talk pages. Conservative (talk) 20:23, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

"I would suggest not using the main page talk as a bulletin board about the war in Ukraine". Well duh. Why did you Edit War with me when that was EXACTLY what I was putting an end to? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:26, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Look, this entire fiasco is on you. You picked a needless and senseless fight with me. You conspired against editors. You tried to turn CP into a mobocracy to gang up on other editors. You deleted talk pages. You edit warred. Your co-conspirator you tried to recruit who rejected you, now gets an official warning. Absolute brilliant work. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:30, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Don't say another word until you accept responsibility for what you have done and apologize to the editors you have harmed. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:31, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

You have long known my sentiments on 90/10. I think Andy knows. But YOU burnt Nishant in this crazy scheme of yours.

What is a Nazi? a heartless person with no regard for other people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:34, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, when you falsely call people Nazis, rudely cover people's text in civil discussions with rude templates and accuse people of phobias they don't have (Namely, "Russophobia"), you are going to get some pushback. Conservative (talk) 20:36, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Have you figured out that there's real people with real feelings and sensibilities out there behind the keyboards, or are you just thinking of yourself? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:47, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe they're all just a bunch infertile drunk Russians, or obese atheists, so who cares, huh? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:51, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) That Deletion key needs to be taken away from you. You do not know how to use it properly. You think you can do and say anything, and always cover your tracks when you screw up (you admitted as much today). Instead, you create mistrust in the wiki among users. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:38, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Then you wanna play Let's Make A Deal; "I'll stop abusing my powers if you bla bla bla". WTH? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:42, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

"...if you stop hurting my feelings" or something along those lines. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:43, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

As to me allegedly calling you a Nazi - I'm flattered. That means you value and/or respect my opinion. Unfortunately, you're only thinking about yourself. "He hurt my feelings", while you routinely disrespect people all the time and tell them outright you don't give a crap what they think. Taking 2 1/2 YEARS to respond to a polite request from Nishant, only to have to threaten to block him a day later. You have the kiss of death about you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:01, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, it is not because I highly respect you or that I am thin-skinned that I don't put up with you calling me a Nazi (I don't respect any bullies/egotists - especially those who knowingly say things that are false), it is merely because I refuse to take any guff - especially when it is obviously not true and a lie. Why should I put up with any guff? Obviously, expecting civility is not a high and unrealistic bar to ask others to clear. Conservative (talk) 23:27, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

I never called you a Nazi; I informed that there are hundreds of millions of people on planet earth who regard what you repeat daily about Russia, Russians, and Vladimir Putin as Nazi rhetoric. Your response generally is to double and triple down. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:39, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

And here's the thing: you have no need or reason to do so, because of your demonstrated lack of knowledge on the subject. Yet you repeat that nazi rhetoric daily seemingly cause somehow you got the idea that it irritates me. It doesn't. You making a fool of yourself deliberately to tweak other people (I'm not the only one here) does irritate me. I'm trying to do you a favor - just shut up about things you don't understand. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:45, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Whatever gave you the impession that I personally have some sort of an emotional attachment to Russia or Vladimir Putin, I have no idea. But it fits with an overall impression I've gained in the 15 years that I've known you as being extremely poor at reading other people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:48, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Hey, I'm not saying t hat's a fault or anything - but I'm sure you must be aware of it. You are untrusting of other people, and make yourself, without realizing it, untrustworthy by other people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:56, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

You did call me a Nazi. You do act rude by covering up others text with a template when they are engaging in civil debate. In addition, you think there is no price to being rude to others and breaking civility guidelines. There is often a price to being rude. For example, I was going to pay for the login problem to be fixed. You can forget about that now. Why would I pay for the login problem when the wiki is plagued by the presence of a very uncivil admin? Of course, I wouldn't ever do that. In addition, having an uncivil atmosphere is a big turn-off to new editors - even if they work their way through the login issue. Conservative (talk) 00:21, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

The next time i call you out for openly expressing nazi views, stop and think for a minute, "What did i say?" and if you're not sure, ask, "What do you mean?" Don't get all huffy and pouty ("Mom, he's being mean to me.") Communicate. Learn. Grow. Don't go back into your vindictive cocoon. It's hard for me to believe you have that big, or that fragile, of an ego. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

See what I mean? [13] You behave deliberately to irritate people and think the rules do not apply to you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:42, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Placing usernames in subheadings is a fundamental violation of civility and show of disrespect. Is your argument that you are just too stupid and ignorant to understand that? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:44, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, my material has been cited by conservative organizations and a theologian. I don't recall the same for you. And here is an experiment for you. Go on Andy's talk page and ask him if you are a conservative. I know he is not going to say yes to that question. Conservative (talk) 00:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I am fundamentally a realist or pragmatist, which makes a me conservatives; ideologues are dreamers which makes them liberals, living in world of make believe. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:52, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Look at yourself: for the past several election cycles, the world is screwed up with problems. You never focus on the problems. All you say is "The Republicans are gonna win in 2 years and we all live happily ever after". From a realist perspective, that makes you a liberal dreamer. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:54, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

And from a realist perspective, getting into a pointless argument with a dreamer is a waste of time. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:01, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

You and I have discussed this before. I do not believe being a conservative means being stubborn and ignorant. I believe conservativism is dynamic, living and active, sharper than a two-edged sword, and so on. if you do not accept my definition of conservativism, we'll just have to agree to disagree. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, the realist? The guy who fights tooth and nail when various negative things are pointed out about Russia? Spare me. Mr. Realist, why don't you create these articles and make them a respectable length: Russian war atrocities in Ukraine and Russia and alcoholism and Russia and AIDS and Russia and divorce and Russia and corruption and Russia and abortion and Corruption in the Russian military and Russia and life expectancy and Russian church attendance statistics and Russia and war atrocities and Russia and male alcoholism and Russian Orthodox church attendance statistics in Russia and Russia's high prevalence of noncommunicable diseases and Russian population loss under the Vladimir Putin administration.

Those are a lot of good pro-LGBT titles. I'm sure they're on the drawing board in a lot of LGBT circles. Probably a lot of transgenders at work on it already. Hey, here's one maybe you can get to help you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:46, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I have to admit what a fashion trendsetter Zelensky is - even the new AFU spokesperson or thing whatever it is has one of those green shirts. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:53, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

And of course, the so-called realist RobS would never admit that if he were a fervent, Protestant evangelist in Russia trying to fulfill the Great Commission, he would face religious persecution in Russia.

Lastly, you constantly use logical fallacies. And unfortunately for you, logic and reality are very compatible. Conservative (talk) 08:36, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, your article NATO war in Ukraine has received 62,415 page views. My article Atheism and bestiality, which you recently mentioned, has received 114,668 page views which is nearly double the page views. And while I was writing my atheism articles, American's views regarding atheists become more negative (See: University of Minnesota study indicates that American dislike of atheists grew). And collectively, my atheism articles still receive a considerable amount of page views (See: Conservapedia:Atheism articles statistics) despite the decline of the atheist movement. Conservative (talk) 09:28, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Aw, boo hoo. Somebody called me a Nazi. Boo hoo. I'm gonna burn the house down boo hoo. I'll show you how mean and cruel I can be. Boo hoo. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:33, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

You don't want people to think you're nazi? Drop the nazi attitude and compulsion about destroying your enemies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:41, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

While you were busy at work on Rational Media Board of Director and RationalWiki Moderater User: Spud and ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food between April 30 and June 8 I imagined Hitler down in the bunker studying maps while the Russian missiles impacted overhead. So inspirational. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:00, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

As to your Atheism and bestiality, I got news for you. Satan is not an atheist. Satan believes in God. Your atheism articles have very little to do with spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ or Christianity. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:08, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I don't take guff from RationalWikians and I don't take guff from you. Deal with it. RationalWiki is always talking about science and medicine and yet they are not following best practices when it comes to nutritional science. So I called them on it.

My atheism articles have received a ton of views because I cover what the mainstream press and secular universities are not teaching concerning atheism.

And of all the people I have come across you are one of the least realist people I have come across because you constantly use logical fallacies and fight tooth and nail when contrary evidence is brought up about your pet ideological positions. Mr. Cognitive Flexibility, you are not. Conservative (talk) 10:21, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

You atheism articles do nothing to spread Christian love or the gospel of Jesus Christ. In that sense, they are deceptive. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:25, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Believing in God is not salvation. You atheism articles do very little, if anything, to lead people to salvation. 10:28, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Both the theist and atheist who do not believe Jesus Christ shed his blood as payment for sinners are going to hell. So where have you accomplished anything? Faith without works is dead. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:31, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Sorry brother, but I see little Christian love in your attitude and actions toward Rationalwiki User:Spud or myself. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:33, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

My prayer is that Zelensky, Dylan Mulvaney, and you all repent. Vladimir Putin has. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:35, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, how many Conservapedia articles on Christian evangelism have you wrote? None? Yes, none. A big fat zero.

I know I have written articles such as internet evangelism and Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian (Which has received 76,690 page views) and Resources on becoming a Christian (which has received about 28,000 page views) and Historical examples of the exponential growth of Christianity.

This is a great example of you not being a realist. Reality is contrary to how you view matters. Conservative (talk) 10:38, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Resources on leaving atheism and becoming a Christian. Well now, that's good. That should even be expanded on. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:41, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Nice Article, Cons. I might add to it later if I have time. One of my areas of interest too. Could give the historical examples of how England, France, Germany or Ireland first became Christian (through the preaching/ministrations of Saints like Augustine of Canterbury, Remigius, Boniface and Patrick respectively) or more contemporary/recent examples. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:46, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Cons, Let's get back to Rational Media Board of Director and RationalWiki Moderater User: Spud and ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food (which isn't even marked as an essay). What was the purpose in creating this article while the Russian missiles were striking overhead? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

This mainspace article, which you present as factual information and not Essay, presumably was created cause Spud hurt your feelings. If I'm wrong, correct me. It was created out of vindictiveness. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:52, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

You must have some understanding of why this knowledge needed to be shared with the world for the 6 seeks you intensively worked on it. We could add up the number of hours you put into it. C'mon now. Please share with us the motivations and necessity behind this article. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:55, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks guys. I do believe in the 90/10 rule - at least in spirit. And I have expressed my thoughts on this matter. So I am going to get back to some projects that I am working on off-wiki.

As far as Spud/RationalWiki and processed food, one of the things I do in my articles is point out the inconsistencies of people and their stated ideologies (In this case, science and nutritional science). That's probably why my Atheist hypocrisy article has over 90,198 page views. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." - Saul Alinsky. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage." - Saul Alinsky (See: Irritating an opponent (military and political tactic). "So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak." - Sun Tzu. "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu (See: Irritating an opponent (military and political tactic)).

I realize that people are somewhat indoctrinated to eat processed food via years of watching processed food commercials and that food science scientists make the food to be enticing/addictive and that people are creatures of habit. So I don't expect Spud/the portly Trent Toulouse/Ace Mc Wicked to overcome their penchant to eat processed foods. But their supposed love of science does contradict their dietary habits. Conservative (talk) 11:04, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Me too. I'm getting back to my realist roots. Getting into a pointless argument with a dreamer is a waste of time. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:02, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, you alleged realist roots cannot break through the hard ground of your frequent use of logical fallacies and your penchant to fight tooth and nail when evidence contradicts your pet ideologies. Conservative (talk) 11:07, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, thanks. My pet ideologies are the Lord Jesus Christ and ultra-processed/unhealthy/junk food. Any others? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:16, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Here's your boy again. He's got more cahoonies than you do. He's standing up to Putin on the frontline. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:21, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, you can't use Russia's antipathy towards homosexuality to whitewash Russian war atrocities in Ukraine. Write the article: Russian war atrocities in Ukraine, Mr. Realist. And move to Russia. Conservative (talk) 11:29, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

"I'm not a Russophobe, some of my best friends are Negroes. I listen to jazz and Russian music all the time." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Both CIA and Kyiv propaganda attempts to brainwash a younger generation with the ahistorical doctrine that Ukrainians are not Russian and do not have a common origin with Russians. [1]

Russophobe? Dr. RobS, where did you get your doctorate in internet armchair psychology? In short, your psychobabble has been weighed in the balance and found wanting.

By the way, in my last grocery trip, I bought bananas, fresh spinach, and fresh pea pods because unlike Spud/the portly Trent Toulouse/Ace Mc Wicked, I have an iron will! See: Atheism and mental toughness. Trent is the Pillsbury "Ultra-processed Food" Doughboy of atheism! See: Atheism and obesity. Conservative (talk) 11:56, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Where? How about all the Neo-nazi rhetoric you posted this morning. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:01, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

"When the Russo-Japanese War came I was older and better able to judge for myself. For national reasons I then took the side of the Japanese in our discussions. I looked upon the defeat of the Russians as a blow to Russian Slavdom." - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Volume 1, Chapter 5. (Ralph Manheim translation). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:08, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Hmmm, Russia, then as now, wasn't even Communist. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:09, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

You live in fantasy world RobS. I have moved on. Your email is blocked. Your phone number is off my cell phone contacts list. And post-pandemic, I am developing closer friendships and new friendships with Christian realists who don't scream over the phone like a banshee when their pet ideologies have holes poked in them. Anytime you want to contact me off wiki again, you know what you have to do. Tell Andy you are ready to apologize for your abhorrent behavior and he will relay the message to me. Conservative (talk) 12:08, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) If you were slightly more knowledgeable on the present situation and the historical circumstances, you'd be a bit more restrained in your rhetoric. You're not. You're frothing at the mouth with Russophobia.

In your Russophobic rants, you basically deny Russians and Ukrainians are the same people, following the Neo-Nazi/CIA/Kyiv regime nazi propaganda line. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:15, June 28, 2023 (EDT) RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:15, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Get back in your armchair and spend some time admiring your Doctorate of Armchair Psychobabble that you got from some diploma mill.

Question: Is Russophobia preventing you from moving to Russia? Your love of Russia/Putin is a mile wide and an inch deep. Conservative (talk) 12:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Me? I'm actually more of a Germanophile (at least I always was until I saw a guy attending the Bayreuth Festival in a skirt last year). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I'll make you a deal: Stop posting Nazi rhetoric and I'll stop calling attention to the fact that you post Nazi rhetoric. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:25, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Are the Ukrainians Russian? or are they Nordic Aryans as the CIA and Kyiv regime claim? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:31, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Move to Russia, RobS. Then your so-called love of Russia would have more realism, Mr. Realist. Conservative (talk) 12:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

What's funny is, back in the days of the CP-Ratwiki wars (which you evidently haven't got the memo yet about the ceasefire and frozen conflict), they used to debate whether or not I was Ukrainian, based on my anti-communism and penchant to mishandle the English language by dropping certain articles and prepositions. I had to assure them, no, I was born in the United States and have studied some German. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:01, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I freely admit, I have pretty much always been a Francophobe and not much of an Anglophile. I'm troubled by modern Germany, although I culturally and historically have been a Germanophile. I overcame my own Russophobia in the late 1970s and 1980s with Solzhenitsyn's help, understanding that the Russian people were primarily Christian, and not communist. Of course, America's loss in Vietnam also played a big part in helping me to see the lies and propaganda in American media, culture, films, etc. about communism and Russia.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, it was a victory for Christianity. It's a pity nazisymps like yourself can't see that, and are trying to undo it now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:12, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

But those damn French. I used to blame them for America's involvement in Vietnam. Now I see it was the fascists in the military industrial complex that caused it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:17, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I also need to give some credit to my Spanish-American friends (Chicanos) for helping me to see the lies of the American government, media, and propaganda. Sure, there are many Anglophobes in Spanish culture, who call all white people 'Angelos' even if they are Polish or Hungarian, but they told me straight up, "No, America lost in Vietnam" which I didn't realize or accept well into the 1980s. That's how brainwashed I allowed American culture to do to me. White people were no help, if they weren't in denial, they were just ignorant. But the Hispanics seemed to relish that the Angelos finally got what they deserved. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:25, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

When I forget to put the word "a" to denote singular, and have to reedit, the first thing that pops up in the back of my head is "damn French" "Why can't the English language get with the rest of planet?". I'm sure that betrays my Germanic and Slavic background. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:42, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

(left) Destruction funded by the United States of the Savur-Mohyla memorial monument to Soviet Soldiers who defeated Nazism and liberated Ukraine; (right) the monument rebuilt and restored with funds provided by the Russian Federation.

Anyways, get used to it. In life, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. If you wanna join the anti-Russia camp, that puts you in the Nazi camp, per the 2/3 of the population of the planet that supports Russia. IMO, it would be easier to remain neutral and just shut up. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:16, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I merely skimmed your biographical information above. Remember, I "unpersoned" you. Your email is blocked. Your phone number has been removed from my cell phone.

But by all means, keep droning on about yourself like some bore with a very large ego who often behaves abhorrently. Thank God I decided to upgrade the people I talk to off wiki. Thank God indeed! As it is commonly said, show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Conservative (talk) 16:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Be honest with yourself. Last time we spoke on the phone, you asked me if the 2004 Orange Revolution was the 2014 "Revolution of Dignity" or were they two separate incidents. You know nothing of these issues regarding Ukraine, Russia, the Russia-Ukraine war, or US interference. And maybe I scream and curse on the phone cause you won't listen, refuse to listen, and troll me online. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:57, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Boo hoo a nazi troll unpersonned me boo hoo. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:56, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I don't give a wit what your American culture or American idioms taught you about Nazism. The fact that 80 years after the fact, you wanted to argue with me for days, weeks, and months last year whether or not non-German Nazis in Ukraine existed tells me and the whole world all they need to know. Maybe it's propaganda and brainwashing from American public schools that teaches such ignorance. I don't know. And frankly don't care. You've been warned now what a Nazi is. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:03, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

What you think you know about Nazism you learned from Hollywood and public schools; and no, the United States did not defeat Nazism and win the Second the World War. And I do not believe Andy holds to your definition of conservativism meaning stubborn and ignorant. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:34, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Something about Rationalwiki referral traffic, I think

Speaking of RationalWikians, RationalWiki is at its [[[RationalWiki and Google referral traffic|lowest Google referral traffic point in all its recent history]]. The "Criticism of socialism" article that I inspired RationalWiki admin User: GeeJayK to write, which was recently published, must have taken a lot of wind out of secular leftists RationalWikian sails. On behalf of all capitalists, I declare total victory over internet secular leftists! It is a total beatdown on their own home field of RationalWiki. See also: RationalWiki and Google referral traffic. Conservative (talk) 20:14, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Exciting. Exhilerating. Fascinating. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:34, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Inspirational. Charming. Impressive. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:53, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

You should actually post this over at the Sum Total of Human Knowledge (Wikipedia) where it might be better appreciated and understood (and get more traffic). I don't see much relevance in a Conservative wiki. We Conservatives are all about building people and things up, not tearing down and gloating in other's misfortune. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:37, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Peace through Strength saves lives

Immediately after Saving Souls, which is the greatest good work we can do, one of the next greatest good work we can do is surely that of saving lives. The reason I promote Raeganite Peace through Strength is because it saves lives. It has already done that by preventing Nuclear War and World War III. Peace through Strength is something Pope St. John Paul II also promoted, (so Conservative Christians, both Evangelical/Catholic Christians did), all because it helps save lives. If we hope the Gospel to grow, we don't want a major world war, especially a nuclear war. America, NATO, and the West being strong (and also including democratic Asian Countries, from India to the Philippines to Japan, which also have strong economies/large populations etc) is one of the best deterrents to threats from autocratic/communist/dictatorial regimes imo. So I don't see Peace through Strength as being opposed to Gospel Work at all, but in fact aiding it. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:53, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

"Peace thru Strength" reminds me of "Kraft durch Freude". RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:05, June 28, 2023 (EDT)