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More Hunter revelations

Recent, from D.M Hunter Biden was suspected of hiring prostitutes from 'Eastern European sex trafficking ring' during drug binges and falsifying checks to pay the women, Treasury documents reveal.Telling (talk)

We got it all, so far as is known {with links to sources). It in the Joe_Biden#Shared_bank_accounts_with_Hunter section. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:19, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Great. Cheers.Telling (talk)

Have you seen this one:

In an August 27, 2017, WhatsApp message to CEFC director Gongwen Dong, Hunter Biden mentioned that his uncle’s “brother” would be in New York City and wanted to meet with Ye.

“My uncle will be here with his BROTHER who would like to say hello to the Chairman,” Hunter Biden said in a text message to Dong. “So please give me location and time. Jim’s BROTHER if he is coming just wants to say hello he will not be stopping for lunch.” [1]

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:17, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

BTW

I noticed somewhere recently that someone said that Zalensky is a "practicing" Jew. Truth is. He is not.Telling (talk) 17:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, that terminology is borrowed from "practicing Catholic". I know I used the phrase "not a practicing Jew" recently, but I was dealing with an idiot off the cuff and he wouldn't understand the difference anyways. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:36, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

The thing Jews and Christians share in common most is, there are a lot of Jews and Christians who are just plain nuts. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:40, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

No shortage of that...in any group. lol

Do you follow Jake Dreizin at all? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:47, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I don't follow any particular person, as a routine, recently.Telling (talk) 18:47, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I meant this guy who falsely stated "practicing Jew "..Telling (talk)

Oh, Korybko, yah. I reacted the same way when I saw that. It stuck in my head. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:41, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Usually people say "observant Jew", but there's no indication Zelensky is "observant" or "practicing", as far as I know. I'm not sure what Korynko meant, perhaps he didn't want to say observant so he substituted "practicing" because of the perception that he is Jewish. Rosanne Barr said it best, "He's not a good one". Any ideas how to paraphrase my cut n paste of Korybko's comment? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:49, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Zelensky is not practicing and definitely not observant ..The ethnicity part is true. . If I may, I will just add, there is a deference between not acting against Neo Nazis (for certain reasons) and being a Neo Nazi sympathizer. But he is not my role model to say the least... yet, there is no doubt, there are Nazi elements in Ukraine. And proportionally (per population, this is the key!) more than in Russia. Telling (talk)

Yes, I understand what you're saying about not acting against (blackmail, intimidation, for example). What about raising the fist in solidarity? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:03, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

If it's solidarity to nazism, there is no excuse use.Telling (talk)

...not religious. "You know religion didn’t exist in the Soviet state as such...Of course, I believe in God. But I speak with him only in those moments which are personal for me, and important, and where I feel comfortable in those places."TOI interviewTelling (talk) 22:07, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

So in Russia, there are Nazis with a presence on social media, etc. To what extent (if you may know) do you think they appear in Russian mainstream media? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:44, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Did not study exact details, but it is what I get from feedbacks. The picture as a whole, on both Telling (talk)

It's a different culture with different historical experiences. And yes, speech that is taboo in the US and Western world often is common in Russian idioms (like references to the Rothschild, for example) which the hearer is supposed to catch the inferences. Sometimes in Russian MSM it's brought up in context of like "some people may say" or "there's a common opinion", etc. IOWs, while even the mention of these buzz words and phrases on TV in the US would probably get you cancelled, in Russia its common and acceptable, and they seem to know that blaming all the Jews for the world's problems crosses a line. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:19, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

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Let me explain. My point isn't specific (only) on Ukraine. There is a tendency to choose the N word, specifically on the victims of Nazism. And it began by neo Nazis, in order to demonize the J and sugar-coat the real original Nazis. (As well as by Palestine pro Hitler's-Mufti propagandists, such as Shukeiri and Issa Nakhleh right after the war). (Politically motivated N slur, on either side are unrelated to my point). It is why the line "practicing Jew" drew my attention. Telling (talk) 20:19, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Hunka scandal

Pakistani Muslim joutnalist in Canada, N Fatah sympathizes with Nazi Hunka. [2]Telling (talk) 18:51, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

It can go straight into Nazigate. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:57, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I expalined my edit in terms of the lede of Dark Triad personality traits

I explained my edit in terms of the lede of Dark Triad personality traits.

I refined the definition and I also added the Britannica footnote. Conservative (talk) 20:51, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

I thought you weren't talking to me (I have a zillion diffs of you saying so). What obligation do I have to even review your trolling edits in Mainspace since you refuse to discuss on the talk page? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:00, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

You are not making any sense. Why are you against the Britannica refinement of the term Dark Triad personality traits. It agrees with the psychiatric/psychological literature.

Edits should be reasonable. Conservative (talk) 21:06, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

You have refused to discuss on talk; I am not obligated to waste my time reviewing your trolling edits in Mainspace. Period.

Does it make sense now? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:18, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Your comment on my user talk page was errant and nonsensical. The church is in Ukraine - not Russia.

Your comment on my user talk page was errant and nonsensical. As can be seen below, the church is in Ukraine - not Russia. And just because a church was built, does not mean that it can't have low attendance.

Now you know why I don't much read your posts to me and why I am so disinterested in them. They are often unthoughtful and errant.

I hope this helps clarify things. Conservative (talk) 15:27, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery, Ukraine

Oh, thanks. It's still in the Ruski Mir. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:33, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

I have absolutely no interest in what you have to say. Get that through your head.

I have tried to have detente with you and not interact with you, but you keep on pushing unthoughtful and errant views on me. Stop. Conservative (talk) 16:04, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

"Unthoughtful and errant"? Are you saying all the pictures of Russian Cathedrals you have plastered all over your user page are not in the Russky Mir? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:14, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Your pretense to understanding anything about the Russian Church

See, I don't understand this. You spent hundreds of hours reporting on decrepit UK infrastructure and potholes. Now that we have two reports in the past few days,

• Decrepit Britain… schools collapsing and Challenger tanks blown to smithereens. [3]
• As British schools crumble [4]

about 1,000 British concrete school structures crumbling and being a life hazard to school children, you ignore the evidence.

You might actually have something to add to Conservapedia proven right. 17:43, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

How much do you know about Chinese Communist collusion with Japanese Fascism?

As you may or may not recall, a long time ago I was hoodwinked by mainstream propaganda into believing that during the Second Sino-Japanese War, the Communists fought the Japanese while the Nationalists slacked off. Over a year ago or so, I recall reading this in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact page:

With the making of the Hitler-Stalin pact, the Soviet Union was at war on the side of Germany. The Chinese Communists (CCP) stopped fighting the Japanese in the ongoing Second Sino-Japanese War, and resumed guerrilla operations against the Chinese National Government (KMT). The CCP devoted their energies to fighting the Chinese government for the portions of eastern China between the railroad lines, held by the Japanese.

How much do you know on this topic, just out of curiosity? What definitely has sparked a bit of confusion at times in my life (having grown up under a Chinese household 80–90% adherent to "traditional" culture, I'd say) was how amicable my parents and family friends are towards Japanese culture, and how little they ever emphasized the brutality of Japanese war crimes during WWII. There have been times when my father brought up American imperialism, slavery, etc., yet never would invoke a mention of the sheer inhumane extent of torture in China by Fascist Japan.

It's interesting that the same first-generation Chinese immigrants, brought up under CCP indoctrination and who despise Chiang Kai-Shek while glorifying or at least defending/trivializing Mao Zedong, are so strangely prone to disregarding the sheer horrifying record of Japanese war crimes. I've never quite had an intrinsic bitter hatred for the CCP before, though now am uncovering some clues. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:22, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

I understand enough from sources reporting inside and outside China at that time until very recent times. The Kuomintang was fighting two wars simultaneously, against Mao and against the Japanese Empire. The Kuomintang focused on the Japanese while Maoists hid out in caves at the end of the long march. Yes, there were some minor engagements between the PLA and the Japanese, but that is inflated in modern CCP propaganda to debunk the "myth" that the CCP did nothing to liberate China from the Japanese Empire, and in fact hindered the "Western allies" from defeating fascism in the East. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:37, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Fascinating info. Is it similar to how, in Slovakia on the Western Front, it was the conservatives who fought tooth and nail against the Nazis while the minimal Communist uprisings were inflated by revisionists in later years? On that issue, I only read a tiny bit from Wikipedia, and was suddenly reminded of the matter.

It is peculiar, at the very least, that standard history textbooks minimize the legacy and effects of the Communazi era as if it were a mere aberration. During the socialist alliance between Nazis and Communists, the commie agitators in Western countries actively derailed the war effort, as Viktor Suvorov has noted. While I read up on a bit of that information as it pertains to the Western Front, I barely know anything about the Eastern Front details yet. This may be my last significant project on Conservapedia. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:42, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

From a historiographic perspective, the problem we see today is, Soviet officials and Soviet documents in the post-1945 period til the end of the USSR, did not treat Jews as a singular, separate group of targeted victims. Gypsies, Poles, Belarussians, Communists, Lithuanians, Russians etc were all targeted groups by one group of Nazi sympathizers or other. So the arrest warrants and prosecutions of collaborators basically were for treason to the Socialist state, regardless of ethnic identification of perp or victim. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:57, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

IOWs if someone claimed to the Soviet authorities, "so-and-so tried to kill me cause I'm a Jew", the Soviet's didn't record it as an arrest warrant for attempted murder with hate crime enhancements, it was recorded as treason against the Socialist brotherhood of love and peace (usually if they had enough corroborating witnesses). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:00, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:12, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Soviet authorities didn't recognize a genocide against one particular group (for this reason, many Jews accuse the Soviet Union of antisemitism). They recognized war crimes against all Soviet Peoples (despite race, religion, or ethnic origin) by Western fascist invaders and their local collaborators. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:41, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Weren't Jewish accusations of Stalinist antisemitism also due to the Soviet Union's anti-Zionist politics and circumcision ban? (also, according to User:Conservative, the Soviet circumcision ban increased rates of penile cancer) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:46, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Don't listen to anything that charlatan says. Stalin voted for UN recognition of Israel. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:53, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Didn't the Soviets bar Jews from emigrating to Israel? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:54, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

It's a long history, but here is as good a place as any to begin reading about it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:28, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

So...

...I see you're highly stubborn about the trivial "no usernames in headlines" thing. I was about to create a highly important mainspace article and you stifled my editing/research/revising process. If you care about the site traffic, how about not doing that in the future? You did this months ago in the dispute over the National Socialism page and I haven't contributed substantial mainspace edits since.

You've complained about Karajou destroying the editor base; you're doing just that by blocking me. Just letting you know. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:11, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

You know the rule - no self-promotion and no inciting other users to gang up on an editor with usernames in subheadings (outside Conservapedia:User complaints). If you ever want to be a neutral and fair Admin or Moderator, understand the reasoning for this rule.

You should know better than anyone - Ratvandals used it to railroad you off their site. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:15, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

I could've contributed a ton more content as I told Andy I would create multiple serieses exposing the history of leftism, but seeing your unapologetic interruption of my efforts, this will be my last important project on the site. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:18, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

You were also told (a) not to put usernames in subheads (b) don't override Admin actions. Under the Mosaic Law, you'd be stoned. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:20, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia is not a mobocracy; placing usernames in subheadings is incitement to mobocracy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:21, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Have it your way for the time being then. After this large project, I'll be out of here for good, though you, if you continue down this path, will glance upwards one day and see me at the other side of the chasm on Final Judgment. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 22:28, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

That may be true, depending on which side of the chasm you're standing on. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:05, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

If you pay close attention my wording again, and you'll realize how specific I was. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 23:09, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

"Upwards", how cute. You neglect the fact that I am saved from judgement (John 5:24) unlike those who reject the gospel (Mathew 10:15). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:37, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

"Sin is the transgression of the law." (1 John 3:4) When was the last time you repented for your hurtful tirades against me and other users? You don't need to answer this question here; I'm merely posing this for your own self-reflection and for your own good. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 23:45, September 18, 2023 (EDT)

Anyways: the reason I started this section in your talk page section was because I felt my edits towards the Chinese Communist collaboration with Japanese war criminals article got delayed a bit. If you have anything you'd like to contribute to the article, since you're more of an expert on world history than I am, that would be appreciated. Hopefully despite our major differences we can work together constructively at least (presumably) this one last time on an important mainspace contribution. What do you say, RobSmith? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:10, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Have you looked at WP's Unit 731 page? There may be something interesting in there.

One of the best movies I've seen in recent years, and one of the best war films ever, is City of Life and Death. Now, don't forget, the modern CCP is trying to hijack the fighting spirit of the Chinese Nationalists and credit themselves for the "victory over Japan".

The online versions of the film trimmed about 1 full hour. There is a version in YouTube. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:27, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

How graphic is the movie? Are the portrayals magnitudes more horrifying to watch than the mass murder scene in Come and See? I would personally rather find extensive reading material. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:30, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

It's all black and white. In the full length version I saw, the first hour was a combat scenes with no dialogue in any language. The Japanese Victory March Dance is probably the most memorable scene. The film really captures the cruelty of the Japanese (at least from a Chinese perspective) and you'll come away thinking they're worse than German Nazis (the scene for example of throwing a child out a window takes 5 seconds, but in it context of the film I found extremely shocking). Just found this review on Youtube. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:51, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Anyways, if you venture into this film, there's another one called "Rabe" which explains more of the context (John Rabe and his assistant are major characters in both films), but I'd recommend City of Life and Death first. (Rabe is the story of the "good nazi" who is still honored in China today). Then there's still another film after you see those two, I forget its name right now, but it's still interesting, despite being filled the typical Hollywood garbage propaganda. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:21, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Trust me, based on my review of the historical facts, I already see the Japanese war crimes in WWII as a few magnitudes more atrocious than the Nazi crimes. The Holocaust was focused on mass murder, but the ultramasochist Japanese war criminals went further, perpetrating such barbaric, animalistic, savage torture upon the Chinese civilians. Hitler will probably already be destroyed in Hell before the Japanese war criminals are burned through.

Oh yes, in my research just earlier, I came across the biography of John Rabe. Very peculiar, I must note, that a hardline German Nazi supporter turned out to save more innocent civilian lives from Axis oppression than almost any single individual out of the vast Allied forces did. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:28, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Rabe evidently wasn't a hardcore ideological Nazi. Like Schindler, as head of the Siemans plant in China (the largest electric power plant in the world at that time) he had to be party member, representing German interests abroad. The symbolism in the clip is unmistakable, the people go under the swastika, and they are saved. That would never get past Hollywood censors, even today. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oops, my mistake there; yeah, according to this NPR summary I quickly skimmed through, it appears that Rabe was largely ignorant of the atrocities happening in Germany. Very interesting: the Nazi symbol on the other side of the WWII front somehow ended up saving lives. I never knew this before. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:38, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, that scene was a milestone in modern filmmaking, portraying the swastika as something positive, and showing that parts of the planet don't always follow Angelo-American narratives.

(ec) The third film I forget the name, a Warner Bros production, being that it is Hollywood, focuses on the sex and sex slavery. And Rabe is the lead character throughout. The original Rabe is a Hong Kong production prior to the takeover. So between the 3 films, you have a CCP, free Hong Kong, and Hollywood version of the same story. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:43, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

In great film making, there are often things that escape the casual viewer, like here, look how young some of the Japanese soldiers are. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:35, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Ivan's Childhood You're welcome. ConwayIII (talk) 18:54, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

It's a good movie. Really good movie. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:59, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Re: Your messages to me today

Are you going to create a The Duran article or do I have to? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:00, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs have appeared on The Duran in the past two weeks. That should be enough qualification for The Duran's credibility, legitimacy, and notability. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:02, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Check your email. It is important. Conservative (talk) 15:08, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Nothing there. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:30, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Trying to reach you. It is important. Conservative (talk) 15:33, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Try one more time. It doesn't always ring. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:38, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Quick recap

Quick recap of our call:

1. I will see what I can do regarding the Conservapedia log-on problem and caching problem via the solutions I mentioned. That could improve web traffic to Conservapedia.

2. I am not interested in geopolitics or politics for the reasons I mentioned as far as having other priorities. Maybe in 2030, I may do about 1-2 hours of editing related to politics/geopolitics, but that is about it.

So don't contact me about politics/geopolitics as that will delay or prevent me from potentially solving the Conservapedia log-on problem and caching problem. It is also a topic that I don't have any interest in right now. Conservative (talk) 16:21, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

I thought you were going to fix the login problem two years ago. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 16:23, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

The two problems I mentioned could have been fixed by Andy. I might have to step in if the problems are going to be solved. I was hoping that the two problems were going to be solved by Andy, but no dice.Conservative (talk) 16:26, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Isn't it just a MediaWiki database thing where you need to make an adjustment somewhere? I thought Andy's gargantuan conservative intellect would've ensured that issue be resolved a long time ago. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 16:28, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

It looks like new account creation is shut off. We're only dealing with ghost sockpuppets now (you know, the 70,000 Karajou created playing whack-a-mole). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:58, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Still would be nice of Andrew Schlafly's Great Conservative Brain devised a solution to effectively solve the login problem. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 18:14, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

I think this is his solution. He doesn't want any new editors unless he qualifies them first. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:18, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe at some point he'll turn it back on, but we need better organization and teamwork to deal with a flood of new accounts. Instead, we still got a bunch of Lone Wolves at each other's throats unable to make commitments. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:22, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Did you see the latest:

See also: Conservapedia:Bad faith editing Rule 1: Don't post anything unless you are ready to honor your word. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:32, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

What this editor fails to see is, when you are speaking for 2 minutes lying to somebody's face, and the other party remains silent, they are not necessarily being respectful. They maybe are becoming highly insulted cause you take them for a fool by lying directly to their face. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:38, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Don't you think it's unnecessarily vengeful to straight-up remove Conservative's contributions?

—LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 20:16, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

What do you call this, being a Cooperative Editor?

Trolling is not a "contribution". RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:21, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, fine, I guess you were right about the left–right paradigm

From my further research, since all of politics is just a scam created by the Jesuits, Freemasons, and Illuminati, who manufactured three world wars since at least 1871, "left" and "right" are pointless after all. You win on this debate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 10:15, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

My point is, for the time being, in order to bring the Ukraine conflict to a halt (or successful conclusion or whatever), any media pushing a left-right, liberal-conservative, Democrat-Republican divide is only furthering and continuing the conflict. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:22, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

And when the conflict is over, a new left-right paradigm will be more clearly visible. It is in the process of being redefined right now, and the old paradigms do not fit. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:29, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

We are at rare moment in history, where one can sit back and watch what's happening, or take active part in re-defining these paradigms. Personally, I'm not even thinking about "victory" of one nebulous concept like "left" over "right" or "right" over "left" at the moment. That all comes much later. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:34, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, I reviewed the Mazzini document. From a historical research perspective, there several obvious problems with it.

(1) It's not the letter itself;

(2) the Zionist movement didn't begin until 1894;

(3) there was no such thing Nazism or fascism in 1871, etc.

The significance, as I would understand it, is August 1871 is a few months after the birth of the Second Reich. It was born out of the Franco-Prussian War. The Second Reich lasted only 44 years - barely one natural lifetime. IOWs, many people who fought in the German War of Unification or lived through those events also witnessed the German Empire's demise.

So whoever wrote that document is paraphrasing events from a much later historical perspective, and taking some liberties. Nothing I say is definitive, and perhaps there's a lot of missing context. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine" - the First World Zionist Congress wasn't held until 1894 where that agenda was outlined. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

What's your knowledge of Giuseppe Mazzini?

So I see that Conservapedia has a page on the Italian revolutionary leader, but it's a tiny stub; he's the purported recipient of the alleged 1871 Albert Pike letter mysteriously seeming to predict three world wars decades before they happen(ed). From what I find so far, apparently he was part of the Illuminati and also the Freemasons, and a major revolutionary leader in Italy who inspired Mussolini. You're the European history expert. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:18, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

He was one of the leaders of the Risorgimento. However he died shortly after the Franco-Prussian War. So he's active between the period of the Restoration of the Monarchy in 1815, and the Unification of Germany and Italy. IOWs, he's sort of a theorist and revolutionary, but didn't live long enough to see his drreams and ideas take effect. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:27, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Very interesting basic summary. There's probably much to that man... I can't believe my old high school history textbooks seemed to mention nothing about him. At least the curriculum probably didn't explain who he was. From what vaguely scrolled, the bit about his vociferous criticism by Marx made me laugh. Marx was a lazy oaf ranting from his benefactor Engels's estate, while Mazzini actually took initiative and led revolutionary armies. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:29, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) So this places him among the failed Revolutions of 1848, but many of his ideas had an effect of leaders and society when Italian unification finally occurred. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:27, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

...fascinating. So how would this play along into his role as a leader of the Freemasons and Illuminati? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:32, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

I was just gonna use that word - the 19th century in a fascinating period say from 1815-1914. Freemasons and Illuminati? It was treated much the same way its treated today - a whacked out conspiracy theory. And you need to be careful cause it leads up to the Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion aka Warrant for Genocide. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:38, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting. Now, I believe at this point, after much research into history to the point of massive internal brain implosions, that the problem isn't the truth itself, but how it's used. For example, the knowledge itself of the fact that, for example, Margaret Sanger's eugenics program and its inspirations were terribly racist in nature, isn't inherently good or evil; a person can use that knowledge to be properly informed into opposing Sanger because they are righteous and oppose bigotry, or, in the case of the modern-day alt-right, support Sanger because they are racist to begin with. At the end of the day, concerning just about any case example, including the Freemasons and Illuminati, the same principle applies. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Hold up, I think I now am seeing the larger picture... so assuming the purported letter from Pike to Mazzini was somehow legitimate, then Mazzini's own role was crucial as well to setting the stage together:

• the part in the letter about planning the "Second World War" uses the term "Fascists"—Mazzini's early radical, left-wing nationalist Italian ideology must've had an influence on Mussolini when Italian Fascism was eventually formed
• the public dispute between Mazzini and Karl Marx parallels the later tension between Italian Fascism and Marxist Communism
• Pike's role in deep-seated occultist Freemasonry at least influenced the U.S. government, likely
• the Jesuits, who educated the Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt, oversaw the entire conspiracy

—LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 02:05, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

In historical terms, I would call that two-page document a forgery. It's not the letter itself {what language was the original written in?} appears to be a summary c. 1977 that fits the perspectives of people of that era, post WWII. I don't see a hint or smell of any 19th century idioms. And I don't know much about Pike. I do know many of the Grand Masons or Grand Wizards or whatever they are, are local kingpins, and don't necessarily have a national or worldview. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:17, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

I suppose you got a fair point. The last bit about "nihilists and atheists," however, appears possibly authentic. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 02:30, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

To understand the non-democratic feudal society that existed in Europe between 1815-1914, you actually need Machiavelli (from 3 centuries earlier). Read the first sentence of the The Prince; in the 19th century, Europe had a growing population, it was more urbanized, less agricultural workers, more tradesman and craftsmen, yet their governments remained principalities ruled by noble bloodlines with bureaucracies that couldn't really handle a growing population. People had no rights, like freedom of the press, jury trial, etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:48, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, Machiavelli ties into this as well? Wow. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Machiavelli says all governments that have ever existed are either republics or principalities (an inherited fiefdom). In the The Prince, he quickly disposes talking about republics (he himself was a republican like Mazzini) and gives the governing Prince, the guy who owned all the land where he was born and living, some advice how to be a successful Prince. He didn't want to move away from his home or get arrested for treason. so he sent the prince a resume of sorts to get job as an advisor. That's what the book is.

Maybe I'll have to investigate that book after all. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

It's only a 125 pages. It could be read in 2 days. I told this all to User:The Con, how it exists in many many translations, I have read about 30 of them, so I would not depend on one single translation. Read at least three. Even the translators can be biased in in their meanings. And don't just read it once. Read it every couple of years or so, cause it is very short. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:24, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

This gets to be a tricky question for some conservatives; as a population grows, you actually need a government to grow, as well. More police. More schools, More judges. More jails, etc. It's to discuss this outside of a historical perspective with your commonplace, run-of-the-mill Republican who's just opposes all government growth and expansion. But actually, these are two very different questions.

Like the money supply has to grow with a population, so to too does the expansion of government. The trick is keeping them in line with each other. Too much, or not enough is always gonna cause serious problems. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:56, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

I see. So in realistic terms, "limited government" isn't so practical after all? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 02:00, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Well yes it is, limited in the sense that it grows in tandem with the population (we're leaving off the table the problem of a stagnant or shrinking population. Biden's taken care of that problem for a few years by opening the borders). Same with the money supply, the amount of cash in circulation, as long as it grows in tandem with the population - too much you get inflation; too little you get deflation and unemployment.

Republicans and conservatives talk about limited government as opposed to handouts. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:09, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Hmm... sounds about right. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 02:12, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, sounds rational and reasonable. But people aren't rational and reasonable - they always tend to the extremes - because of emotion. That's what war and violence and killing each other is, emotion. And we're living in the Biden era where our leaders are trying to convince us forever wars are rational and reasonable. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:24, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

I focused too much on the economics, now the demographics: a growing population without a growing government you get crime, theft, murder, etc.; too fast a growing government you get more police and courts than needed, a police state, wasteful spending, bureaucracy, bloated government, teachers who can't teach, etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:32, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

Anyways, back to the 19th century: that was the problem, too small governments, antiquated bureaucratic and law-making systems that led to Marxism, socialism, rebellion, revolution, etc, war between governments, etc. (Principalities that were non-responsive to the people). They all disappeared in 1918 and were replaced with republics. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:37, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

FYI

Since you're Conservapedia's leading hawk exposing the history of Democrat racism, perhaps you'd be interested in the fresh content I'm adding to the George N. Sanders article. He was a leading figure in the Slave Power, it seems. (Wikipedia's article on Sanders is ridiculously minuscule, so my version will be far more superior in both quantity and quality, seeing the sheer amount of information I can find on the entrenched Democratic operative) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 12:36, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

10-4, I'll keep an eye on it. Right now I smell blood in the water among the Canadian Nazi Liberals. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:47, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

I see; makes sense, as the Canadian Liberal-Nazi scandal is big news currently. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 13:09, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

It's not going away anytime soon. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:14, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Here's an opportunity to do real primary source research. Here's an extract (machine translated):

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:26, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Re: The Stratfor video you sent me today via email in good faith. A courteous reply to you was sent

Thank you for sending me the Stratfor video today via email.

A courteous reply to your email was sent to you about a half hour ago. Conservative (talk) 19:22, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

I thought you were not interested in politics, weren't going to write anymore on it until the year 2030, and did not want me to share anymore news with you by email or on your user page. The next time you go crying to Andy that I posted something on your user page, that can only be interpreted a bad faith editing, if not malicious editing if you call for disciplinary action again.

Please stay out and away from things you do not understand, and please cease your relentless trolling of me. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:30, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

You are the person who sent me this email today. I merely replied to it in a courteous manner. Conservative (talk) 19:34, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

No one accepts your "courtesies" as good faith due to your record of malicious and bad bath editing. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:42, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

For the record, I view your recent activity at War of Attrition and other mainspace and Essay space activity as part of your Sun Tzu "psyop" against your "enemies". You have demonstrated no interest, understanding, or knowledge in those fields you have been editing in. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:51, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, I hope that despite our arguments we can still be friendly towards one another. I will be retiring for the night, but I look forward to responding when I wake up tomorrow. God bless you, be with you, and guide you. MayGodBless (talk) 01:05, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Good. Let's keep it on the issues, and not pile on like the rest of the trolls. Okay? Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:10, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Trolling comments

Talking tough again? What is that you claim will cause big changes rapidly? Whatever it is, it's not going to work. The reality you're stuck facing is that you've been found out for who you really are. You're an arrogant, narcissistic jerk who abused his own authority, abused the people in this site, walked all over the rules Andy set down, and acted like you owned the place. And when found out, you just have to play the victim, which means you're just a chickenshIt. And everyone here knows it, and that includes the guy you think is going to help you out with that rapid big change.

You are NOTHING. Get that through your head and you'll sleep better, and perhaps you'll get motivated enough to go job hunting. Karajou (talk) 23:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I'm retired, son. Should your friends, family, and neighbors let you live long enough, you may be as lucky as me someday. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:08, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

I'll wait for the stuff that you claim with make changes quite rapidly. Make it happen, tough guy, if you can. Karajou (talk) 00:17, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

You will shut up. You will bend over and withdraw your head from your butt. You will go to the sink and wash the feces out of your ears. You will look in the mirror and repeat 1,000 times "I am a bully." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:25, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, I went to the Quincy Instittute website and saw a few related articles and...

By the way, I went to the Quincy Instittute website and saw a few related articles.

What specific article are you referring to concerning aircraft carriers and hypersonic missiles? Give me the specific link again. Conservative (talk) 04:05, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

• Defense Contractor Funded Think Tanks Dominate Ukraine Debate, QUINCY BRIEF NO. 41, JUNE 1, 2023, Ben Freeman.

I thought you had read it back in June. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:14, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

That is some fancy tech they must have, preventing someone from reading a given document twice four months apart. If he read it then, he could not possibly have read it now! MayGodBless (talk) 21:45, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

He's just a doofus. He created the mainspace article because he was so impressed when I cited the article and called his attention to it, but didn't link the article. I had to. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:22, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks at NYT page

Sorry I have my hands full. God bless.Telling (talk)

Censorship

RobSmith censoring opposing viewpoints

Nice job censoring me. You are more cowardly than the Russians. MayGodBless (talk) 22:41, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Nah. We just have a rule against putting user names in subheads and page headings. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:44, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Where would that rule be? We have a rule against user names in subheads, but no rule against pages. MayGodBless (talk) 14:26, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

You cannot target other users for denigration or ridicule. Creating a file name, Essay, Debate, or mainspace article, and even user space page with the intention to attack, denigrate or ridicule a registered user in good standing is against our policy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:32, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

That email was not an attempt to ridicule. It was an attempt to show you a problem. MayGodBless (talk) 14:35, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Oh well. That's how it was interpreted. As an attack on another user. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:37, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Only a snowflake would be insulted by constructive criticism. In what way did it seem to be an attack on a user? I am not sure how a bar chart can be threatening. MayGodBless (talk) 14:40, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not sure how much more time I want to waste dealing with trolls and trolling RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:41, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Accusing me of being a troll is a personal attack. MayGodBless (talk) 14:44, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:50, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Asking for permission to create debate page on Israel vs. Hamas

Title is self explanatory.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:09, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Oh yah, please do. Don't forget a civility warning at the top, ok? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:13, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Is there a template for that, or do I just write it myself?--Geopolitician (talk) 14:19, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

I don't think there is. Just a comment like, "This debate is about bla bla bla. Please keep your comments civil." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:22, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you. Creating it now.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:25, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Psycho?

You better get your act together, RobSmith, because you've been acting the psycho since you got here. Deal with it, or get out. Karajou (talk) 23:39, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, RobSmith needs to quit the Communazifascist lunacy and grow a brain. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 23:41, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Kamala reminds me of Forrest Gump about 'stupid'

https://www.conservapedia.com/Kamala_Harris#Worse_than_just_ridiculous

Yah, I just got this email today: Kamala Harris Decides She Supports Muslims In Holy War. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:27, November 2, 2023 (EDT)

BTW, Karma is a bi#ch and God is great.Palestinian woman 'smashes car into anti-Semitic group after mistaking them for Jews'Telling (talk) 17:17, November 6, 2023 (EST)

You know, that raises an interesting question: does she get to go to Paradise cause she had the intent to kill Allah's enemies, even though she screwed up and accidently killed "the people of God"? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:23, November 6, 2023 (EST)

I think mullahs will rule her same credit martyrdom as the jihadists who fire at Israeli civilians and hit their own people... BTW liberal hypocrisy - see hilarious short clip viral [5] enjoy.Telling (talk)

As he thinketh in his heart, so is he.

I just posted the news on MPR. It's sad we have to turn to UK media cause I've seen nothing in US MSM about it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:10, November 7, 2023 (EST)

They have reported it over there locally in Indianapolis, but they don't mention her origin or belonging, just the PC style language "A woman"...BTW the clip I linked - has already about 15M views.Telling (talk)

Ok, posted that one, too. I don't like posting random stories, but only stories where we can anticipate some follow up. And there have been numerous stories about antisemitism on US campuses, so pass along any follow up material you may find.

Local US stories ignored by MSM have been key to The Guardian & Daily Mail success since they expanded into the US - local US stories ignored by MSM become national headlines in the UK.

Looks like the Black Israelites have to learn the hard way - maybe they'll change their logo now. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:31, November 7, 2023 (EST)

With all the censorship going on in the propaganda wars, it seems we're in a lull right now. Three weeks ago I had to trim down 14 daily news stories to 12, but now I'm lucky to find 5 to report on in a single day. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:34, November 7, 2023 (EST)

"Reliable" sources

So this is a CNN and AP contributing "journalist..." kissing Hamas leader- (RS)Telling (talk) 11:22, November 9, 2023 (EST)

Wow. Our Fake news article needs some updating and restructuring, but if have enough material and want to add it to Fake_news#CNN.27s_promotion_of_fake_news, or create a new subhead like ===Hamas attacks=== (or some such wording) it can go there, too. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 12:30, November 9, 2023 (EST)

You didn't use the minor editor button in many cases such as this one

Heads up.

You didn't use the minor editor button in many cases such as this one: https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=2022_Istanbul_peace_negotiations&curid=180436&diff=2004703&oldid=2004697

Cheers. Conservative (talk) 01:12, November 18, 2023 (EST)

Sorry. Mistakes happen.

Virtually nothing, nothing from your user space belongs in Recent Changes. Please keep it out. Thank you. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 01:21, November 18, 2023 (EST)

If you get a chance

Please delete typo file[6]. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Telling (talk)

Done (a typo in the File name can also be retitled in the Move log), Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!

Swords of Iron is getting upward of 950,000 bytes. I'm starting to get Gateway timeouts (503s) when I try to load the page. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 01:22, November 19, 2023 (EST)

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Thanks.

1 - Now it works fine. Maybe I should transfer the sources part to a second page.. Is it OK to create a page 'Sources for Swords of Iron' / or 'Swords of Iron part II'?? 2 - When I will have more time, maybe after the war, I could trim...

Yah, being the Sources are all direct outgoing links, and not in text ref links, that would work. Then just a link from the Portal page to the subpage.

Question. What do you think of this?Telling (talk)

Propaganda. Tear-jerker propaganda. Follow the recipe, add water, stir, bring to a boil, etc. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 19:40, November 19, 2023 (EST)

How do I create a sub-page for it, or just another page named Part II which will, in affect, serve as a sub-page?Telling (talk)

Swords of Iron is the Portal. Swords of Iron: sources is a subpage, etc. Don't forget the reverse link back to the Portal page from the subpage. You could put into the Intro text like: "These are the primary sources for Swords of Iron" or use the Template:

Main article: Swords of Iron at the Top of the page, above Intro. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 22:33, November 19, 2023 (EST)

Cheers. Thank you.!!! BTW, followed the good bews from Argentina?Telling (talk)

Only in the broadest outlines. I'm trying to get a handle on what's happening in Spain, even Tucker did a full hour on it. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 10:36, November 20, 2023 (EST)

As far as I saw, the left won in Spain. Telling (talk)

Massive protests against the new socialist PM taking power, opposition leader shot in the face a few weeks ago.... RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 11:00, November 20, 2023 (EST)

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Yes, [7] plus, they (Spain) have also a border issue with immigrants...

Another subject. Here is a smart idea hamas.com.Telling (talk)

What a mess. Somebody's gotta clean it up.

I'm sure you've seen this one. Tunnels? What tunnels? RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 07:54, November 22, 2023 (EST)

Just watching Democracy NOW; Javier Milei defeated the 'centrist Peronist' candidate. Did you hear that? fascism is now 'centrist'. I like Milei, but he could do without the Jim Traficant haircut. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 08:16, November 22, 2023 (EST)

OMG Amy Goodman/DemoracyNOW? I haven't watched that b$ for ages.... see

in Red America... Happy Thanksgiving!!!Telling (talk)

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Hi. I tried to add cat. Liberal hypocrisy here, it seems locked. Thanks. Telling (talk)

There already is a category, spelled with a capital "H". Category:Liberal Hypocrisy. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 17:48, December 4, 2023 (EST)

sorry. I didn't realize.

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When you can, pease delete these two [8], [9] files. Cheers.Telling (talk)

Ok, but they're still linked to this page: Nazism at Arab Palestinians. You m,ight want to check that page for red links. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 19:54, December 11, 2023 (EST)

Please use User:Conservative/mailbox to send me messages

Please use User:Conservative/mailbox to send me messages. I do not read messages sent to User talk:Conservative.

Also, do not send me messages related to political news in order to spark private conversations. I am not interested in engaging in such private conversations as I am focusing on various off-wiki endeavors. Conservative (talk) 00:55, November 25, 2023 (EST)

I just wanna know who the deceptive liar is here, Conservapedia and its cut n paste article from the CIA, or Vladimir Putin? You're the expert. You've spent two years researching the subject. You should know. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 00:55, November 25, 2023 (EST)

"I do not read messages sent to User talk:Conservative." Hmmm, not much agreeableness or openness. I've never seen anyone struggle so hard with being a normal person. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 22:27, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Desecularization and Russia

I am putting in the desecularization of Russia info you put in related to Putin. I accidentally erased it. Conservative (talk) 04:31, December 17, 2023 (EST)