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==Thought you might be interested==
 
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*[https://goudsmit.pundicity.com/27735/chapter-15-conflict-theory-and-the-hegelian Conflict Theory and the Hegelian Dialectic] ''Space Is No Longer the Final Frontier—Reality Is'', by Linda Goudsmit.
 
  
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Goudsmit is one of my favorite writers ([[User:TerryH]] says he knows her). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 11:22, April 21, 2024 (EDT)
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*''The term [[populist]] tends to be spoken with a sneer embedded within it, an attitude of disdain, almost spoken with a sigh that uneducated primitives have acted in an uneducated, primitive way one again and they have to somehow deal with these idiots by blackening their name until they learn better.'' [https://aearnur.substack.com/p/populism-what-is-so-wrong-about-caring] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 08:37, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::Populism is a sanitized euphemism for Bolshevism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 11:53, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
  
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I'm glad you uttered that "nakbas" plural propaganda, so you revealed your "palestinian" sources no less (or/and Hamas linked: Qatari/Iranian/Turkish sites or Iranian paid ones).  
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Dear friend. It's nice to see you here. God bless.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 12:52, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Thanks, Telling. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:57, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::Hope, you stick around.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 13:30, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::BTW, Habakuk 2:12 prophecy refers to the time of redemption re - destroyers of the Temples.. (Babylon at the 1st, then Romans at  2nd Temple).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 15:20, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::My dear friend LT.
 
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For centuries only 'the few' studied Kaballah. I'm almost certain that this Judah did not.
 
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Today in age, there are some lessons but the facts of the matter is that one can claim to understand it. I'll make it short by saying, it's a descriptive form with lots of parable language, and not everyone who claims to get it, is correct. It's very deep and in fact you have to 'live it' to 'really' get it.
 
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Neo Nazis in demonizing Jews will mix/blend all opposites into one. Lefty communists vs right wing Zionists. Atheist-socialists with its opposite Talmudists... and so on and so forth.
 
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I can assure you that none of the nazis knew ANY kaballah.
 
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No need to link any Jews to their enemies Nazis. With full respect to you.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
 
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:To clarify, my polemic is against the Zionist hierarchy, not against rank-and-file Jewry. Also, from what I read, Sebottendorf—one of the founders of the proto-Nazi Thule Society—studied Kabbalah with a Turkish Jew. So if I understand your argument correctly, Telling, you're saying that the Thulists at most appropriated Kabbalah but didn't fully understand it? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 22:11, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::First of all, who says that this "studying" has "inspired" him? Did Sufism which he studied inspire him for nazism? What does "race" have to do with these? Who comes up with these conspiracies? (I'm not that ignorant about J. history and I have quite knowledge of charges against Jews throughout generations. But this one is one of the weirdest twisted latest in the modern era. <small>(I like W.P usually. But in this it's so wrong on any level).</small> BTW, yes, the, misunderstanding is very common especially in parable language Kaballah).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:30, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::[EC] [EC] Even if Sebottendorf's individual Kabbalistic studies don't conclusively prove any connection to his racialist Ariosophy, the historical record would indicate that there was nonetheless some larger, broad connection between the Thulists and Kabbalistic enthusiasm:
 
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{{cquote|Though radical antisemites and proponents of Nordic racial superiority, both List and Liebenfels studied the origins of Korean, Japanese and Polynesian symbols, believed in Hindu reincarnation and karma, and '''dabbled in the Kabbalah (oddly, a ''common theme'' among otherwise radical antisemites)'''. Liebenfels, Sebottendorf, Nauhaus and other Ariosophists were also ailiated with the Masonic Templar Order of the Orient (OTO), which drew explicitly on the Hindu, Chinese, Islamic and Kabbalistic practices in their initiations and liturgy. In fact Sebottendorf had moved to Istanbul before the First World War, obtained Turkish citizenship, and immersed himself in Islamic studies, eastern astrological practices and the Kabbalah, which he studied with a Turkish Jew.|||Eric Kurlander, "Hitler’s Monsters: The Occult Roots of Nazism and the Emergence of the Nazi ‘Supernatural Imaginary,’" p. 538}}
 
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:::—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 22:31, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::The problem begins also with the incorrect definition of it as a just supposed "Jewish mysticism."  The first thing about Kaballah is that God is IN everywhere . Though this is not the place to elaborate it... not about "race."[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:47, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::two cents: the pre-WWI period 1880-1910 was full of whacked out [[cult]]s all over the continent and in England, Fabians, Thule, etc. 22:51, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::True dear Rob. Dear LT, Show me one statement by Alfred Rosenberg that quotes supposedly ANY Kaballah...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
 
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:::::::The Nazi Party was the political incarnation of the underlying Ariosophic ideology. Now, Rosenberg was only a guest at Thule, so he probably had little individual Kabbalistic connections. My point here is that Kabbalah clearly has some "inspirational" connection to the esoteric Ariosophic-occultist aspect of Nazism, and the Aryanist racialism was an outgrowth of that factor. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 23:02, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::[EC] Nothing to do with "race"? From what I've observed with bare minimal research, Chabad Kabbalists appear to have a disturbing stream of far-right connections to the settler movement in Israeli occupied territories, and the most devout zealots in the movement are ideologically connected to anti-Arab racists. Take, for example, [https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-ministers-attending-award-ceremony-jewish-rabbi-praised-hebron-massacre-1994 Ginsburgh's glorification of Baruch Goldstein]. And the present-day sheer suffering of the Palestinian people was long [https://forward.com/opinion/348004/is-new-israeli-initiative-trying-to-turn-american-jews-into-orthodox-right/ loudly proclaimed in the Kabbalistic blueprint]:
 
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{{quotebox|Rabbi Yitzhak Ginzburgh, a senior Chabad educator and philosopher, has written in praise of the late Baruch Goldstein, who committed the 1994 Hebron massacre. '''Ginzburgh also mentored Yitzhak Shapira, co-author of the 2009 book “The King’s Torah,” which justified killing Palestinian babies because they might grow up to be terrorists.''' Another Chabad leader, Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpo, raised money for the families of Jewish terrorists and has urged the death penalty — by a court, not vigilantes — for dovish Israeli leaders Ehud Olmert, Ehud Barak and Tzipi Livni.}}
 
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:::::—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 22:56, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::<b>And I know many Chabad on the opposite of this. (And most Kabbalists denounced Yitzhak Shapira who didn't even base his book on anything from Kaballah). So what? And anti-Zionist Neturei Karta are any less Kabalistic? really? Did you expect Arab Qatar (who promotes vile racism as documented on Memri.org) linked ''MiddleEastEye'' to show the majority against that? And I know many Catholics who are nice and some who are bigots. And I know many Protestants who are like that and like that. So? What a salad. Madonna who studied Kabalah (I'm not saying she really got it) became a racist after/because of that?</b>[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:15, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::My analysis concludes upon the following: Jewish Zionism = Kabbalistic, Jewish anti-Zionism = Talmudic. I don't know to what extent the Haredi NK are Kabbalistic (now, I believe Satmar, being Hasidic Orthodox Jews, would be on the Kabbalistic side), but it's clear that they stringently emphasize the Talmudic tradition of the Three Oaths over messianic, esotericist-inspired notions of "settler" land-grabbing that border into, as others have put it, "[https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers-call-for-resettling-gazas-palestinians-building-settlements-in-strip/ Lebensraum]."
 
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:::::::Since my views probably come off as harsh (to put it mildly), I would just to state as an FYI that I can hold a certain level of respect and sense of brotherhood for Talmudic Judaism (most anti-Zionists do not go this far, and I call them out for antisemitism when they are guilty), as both rabbinic Judaism and Jewish Christianity come from the same Old Testament (rabbinic Jews are no longer hounding Christians like they did in the 1st–2nd centuries and NK particularly is quite amicable with Christians from what I see on their "Torah Judaism" Twitter handle, so I greatly respect them personally). However, I unfortunately refuse to accept far-right Kabbalism/Zionism's claim to Jewish legitimacy. Zionism is built off the back of antisemitism (Herzl used antisemitic tropes), because every antisemitic attack is a convenient pretext to justify its emigration agenda.
 
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:::::::After all, that was why Baghdad Jewry in the early 1950s just about universally understood (if I recall reading correctly) that the bombings of their synagogues were perpetrated by the Israeli military. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:20, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::In summary, a motivating reason I'm connecting Kabbalah to Ariosophic Thulism is because both are forms of esotericism with—to put it mildly—evident links to right-wing racial supremacist violence, I'm sorry to say. And as the sources I've listed above demonstrates, the Ariosophic forerunners to the Nazi Party were enthusiastic about Kabbalistic studies. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 22:59, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::<b>In summary you can blend Hinduism and Sufism into Nazism...But it's not correct to do. Enthuiastic about many things. But you seem to have a campaign against Kaballah Which I fail to understand the motive. And some converts to Christianity have position  - no different than Ginzburg. Or your Walid Phares himself which you included...</b>[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:58, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::oh boy, here we go. Madam Blavatsky next. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 23:05, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::'Tis a shame there's so little time left in the world, and now I'm reminded that I still need to read Albert Pike's ''Morals and Dogma'' and Helena Petrovna Blavatsky's books to understand "the horse's mouth." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 23:09, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::::And esoteric "has to do" with race superiority because???[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
 
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:::::::::Esoteric concepts of secret knowledge historically is correlated with racial supremacism, I'm sorry to say. In the present day, it's no coincidence that white supremacists glorify the tradition of the Knights Templar. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:07, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::The story of the Nineteenth Century: Beginning with the French Revolution and afterward, God and the church got kicked out the picture. Man was made an animal. If you can kill a dog, you can kill a man, and there is no final judgement. That's how Nazism and all the horrors of the 20th Century came about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 23:24, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::RobSmith, please read Lehmann's "Behind the Dictators" (1942): the French Revolution was the outgrowth of liberal Masonry, which reactionary, Jesuitic Nazi-Fascism entirely opposed. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:29, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::::Even Islam critics (like Robert Spencer and others) point to what Imams <b>quote</b> from Quranic text to justify crimes. Which you failed throughout above vis-a-vis Kaballah - with all due respect. <b>BTW I always criticized those who describe Hitler's references to God to claim that Christianity motivated him. Of course they are wrong. So what that he accepted Chrisianty in the beginning. But later he loathed it. Do we say now that his 'beginning' (forerunner) faith "inspired" him like those at Thulism? Of course not.</b>.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
 
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<b>Speaking of racism in the M.E.
 
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And the other VAST racist side is because of "kaballah"?
 
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The whole conflict is not rooted in Arab racism / Arab anti-Jewish supremacy? Why do you think the Arab leadership rejected partition in 1947? What was their stated reasoning as outlined by Arab Higher Committe AHC spokesperson Jamal? [https://www.meforum.org/63545/jeffrey-herf-what-was-behind-the-miracle Quote]: <i>a speech given in London and New York in 1947 by Jamal Husseini, representative of the Arab Higher Committee of the Palestine Arabs of the United Nations, and [relative] of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, is significant. Husseini claimed the Arab world's "territorial continuity" served as a "natural bulwark for peace, <font color=red>homogeneity, and race</font>" that a Jewish state in the region would destroy.</i> </b>
 
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[http://35.166.224.10/cols/horowitz041403.asp Two causes of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The first is Arab racism, rejects any presence that isn't Arab in its neighborhood; the second is Islamic intolerance which leads to same rejection].<b>
 
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As far back as: 1914-15, periodical 'Falastin' was banned for its anti-Jewish racism, hatred by Ottoman authorities.</b> [https://books.google.com/books?id=Qj6sCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false for incitement to race hatred].<b>
 
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<i>In a global survey of antisemitism, 93% of Palestinians were found to hold antisemitic views.</i>
 
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Of course - [https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-760261 The Palestinian conflict with Israel is rooted in Antisemitism].
 
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Why is [https://www.jns.org/mein-kampf-in-gaza-and-beyond/ Mein Kampf so popular] there?
 
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:Telling, please consider the implications of what Chaitkin said in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoLDwKd6NW8 this lecture]. This so-called "Arab affinity for Nazism" is ''very obviously'' the result of decades of Masonic subversive influence—on behalf of the Anglo-Jesuit powermongers—to manipulate the Arab world at an ''en masse'' societal level the same way those guys have used Zionism as a proxy front organization to manipulate the thinking patterns of the Jewish community. The purpose is obvious: stoke division between Jews and Arabs. From what Avi Shlaim says, Arab Jews before Zionism were treated by so-called "Mufti Islamists" far better than European Jews were treated by so-called "Christians." And it was the Zionists who in 1950–51 who were the perpetrators of—literally—''antisemitic terrorism'' in Baghdad, when they bombed the synagogues.
 
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:Also, as to the definition of "antisemitic views," those ridiculously deceptive IHRA/ADL/AJC parameters are laughably pathetic and selective—do those guys ever condemn Zionists for harassing Neturei Karta? Why is it that—to the B'nai B'rith/ADL/AJC apparatus—violence against the ultra-Orthodox, Talmudically devout, Haredi NK is clearly of less a concern to them than when pro-Palestine college students (aligned with the JVP, for one, and I'm not even endorsing the JVP's "progressive" view of Judaism) oppose the starvation of Palestinian children in Gaza? Oh, but if you Soros or Zelensky a Nazi, you're an "antisemite," because... it's "antisemitic" to oppose Nazis?
 
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:TL;DR: all those mainstream "definitions of antisemitism" were created by disingenuous political hacks. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 16:47, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:And to address the whole "Arab-Nazi" canard, I recall from basic reading that the the "Arab collaboration with Nazi Germany" was incredibly lopsided and farcical, as the Arabs were duped by Nazis who saw them as "racially inferior." In essence, the singular Zionist agenda was dialectically propped up in a "dualistic" way: the Nazis (who were installed into power by the Jesuits, British reactionaries, and Old Prussian Masons) in actuality collaborated with the Zionists to force a long-term emigration of European Jewry into Palestine, and they tricked Arabs into being pro-Nazi so Zionists could employ a deceptive, spurious notion of "Arab-Nazi opposition to Zionism" in order to easier propagate their own agenda alongside running their own anti-Arab scaremongering campaign amongst the Jewish community. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 16:52, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::Blessing to you dear LT.
 
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JVP was exposed as being really guided by [https://thejudean.com/index.php/news/international/1126-jewish-voice-for-peace-exposed-by-errant-tweet-from-a-muslim-extremist Islamic Arab Hatem Bazian] - the same radical who founded the SJP. About the hypocrisy of the "protests" on campus organized mainly by (Muslim Brotherhood linked) SJP. This courageous Gazan exposes them in [https://www.newsweek.com/why-does-international-media-ignore-hamas-crimes-against-palestinians-opinion-1919290 Newsweek].
 
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<b><u>Collaboration to save Jews vs collaboration to murder them</u>.
 
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About Zionist attempts to save Jews from Germany into Palestine? Until 1937 Hitler agreed to migrate the Jews into Palestine. But there was never ideological collaboration between zionist leadership and Nazis. Then in 1941, he saw the Nazi leadership was ready to his final solution - extermination plan as in [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/wannsee-conference-and-the-final-solution Wansea conference]. Were they wrong to save Jews? At the time it was controversial to deal with the devil. Vs <u>IDEOLOGICAL corporation by the Arabs</u>. Already in Sep 1933 [http://pdfs.jta.org/1933/1933-10-08_2663.pdf Eissa Bendak, editor of the radical bi-weekly Sawt Al Shaab] went to Goebbeles propaganda to study then help the Nazi machine. Remember, the Arab leadership 's [https://books.google.com/books?id=UHe9AgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover Mufti] approached Nazi Germany representative with just two months after Hitler rise and to "cooporate against democracies". Then </b><small>(months after he incited in Iraq for the Farhud pogrom on ancient Jewish community there - accompanied by mass rape and throwing children into water in front of parents)</small><b> his Nov 28, 1941 talk with Hitler was also anti Jewish hatred "[https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/hitlers-mufti the Jews are yours]" Hitler replied.
 
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The Arabs were not that naiive who could be easily duped. In July 1942 when news came about Jews' fate, most Arabs in the  land reacted with [https://books.google.com/books?id=CbLpAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT415 'open Joy']. CIA reported Aug 1942 that most Arabs of Palestine are pro nazis and eagerly await Rommel. Even after WW2, the Mufti was praised by Arab Palestine. Arab Palestinian author Edward Said wrote that he was backed by a [https://books.google.com/books?id=wYZdOSthmdoC&pg=PA167 consensus]. Mr. Emile Ghory of Arab Higher Committee in 1946 <font color=red>compared Nazi Mufti to Jesus</font>. ''Mein Kampf'' has been a [https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/mein-kampf-in-east-jerusalem-and-the-pa best seller] there since it was republished in Arabic in 1999.</b><small>
 
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The main pseudo "historian" (termed [https://www.jpost.com/magazine/books/politics-gets-in-the-way propagandist]) that tried to rewrite history is G. Achcar and he quotes anti Nazi mainly from other Arabs which is not my subject in this thread. Then he cites a paper when it was under British control but has knowingly ignored Sari</small><b> Sakakini's Feb. 1941 poll and the vast Hitler admiration in Arab palestine press since 1933 till it became under British control, then again right after WW2 glorifying the hanged Nazis and stating that Nazism is just an ideology like democracy. [https://adin1664.medium.com/not-just-the-mufti-the-real-extension-of-the-palestinian-nazi-collaboration-67e6340b6773 It was not just the Mufti]. </b>(His granddaughter told a liberal-anti-zionist author that al Husseini knew that after the Jews, 'the Arabs would be next', but still he did what he did).<b>Summed up by jordanian ex minister "[https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/jordanian-ex-minister-arabs-supported-hitler-because-he-hated-jews-607485 we supported Hitler because he hated the Jews]" (most Jordanians are Palestinian Arabs). Think about that: which country entity has a [https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/204131 open] <font color=red>Hitler store</font> because of his hate? [https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/name-of-shop-is-hitler-and-i-like-him-because-he-was-the-most-anti-jewish-person-432190 'Name of shop is Hitler and I like him because he was the most anti Jewish person']. Random note. In 2019 Edy Cohen who has a half a million Arab followers, put out a survey to judge Hitler, most responders out of the 9k, exonerated him.
 
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</b>[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 21:38, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Telling, the conservative Republican and Jewish historian Alfred M. Lilienthal carefully documented that European Jewry into the 1930s were by and large anti-Zionist, and I believe in Germany only 2% held Zionist sympathies. Whichever "Jews" the Zionists were trying to supposedly "rescue" were only those of the then-fringe minority sympathetic enough to Zionist objectives. When the Nazis propagated that ugly "Judeo-Bolshevism" canard, who were they targeting? Obviously not the Zionist faction of Jewry, [https://dalspace.library.dal.ca/bitstream/handle/10222/83987/Pangaea%202013%20Wolofsky%20T.pdf?sequence=1 which they tolerated]. It was the General Jewish Labour Bund which opposed Zionism as a bourgeois-reactionary scheme, and considering that Hitlerite collaboration extended to both the left and right wings of Zionism, this should be indicative-enough proof that the Holocaust and Nazi persecution of "Judeo-Bolsheviks" was entirely and clearly concurrent with the Zionist agenda of purging Jewry of its anti-Zionist majority. Chaim Weizmann, one of the chief Hitlerite collaborators, said something about only the "youth" surviving, and there was also another quote by him, Jabotinsky, or some other leader along the lines of "Zionism above all else."
 
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:And everything you said about "Arab-Hiterism" is entirely addressed by my earlier point, and I'll restate: the Arab shift to antisemitism was the result of brainwash and propaganda manipulation by Anglo-Masonic proxies/agent provocateur. It's not like antisemitism was part of their DNA; they were tricked and deceived into being told i.e. "the Jews are running a Zionist conspiracy to take over the Middle East," and so they ignorantly align with racial antisemites, an alliance which only becomes "fuel for the fire" for Zionist propaganda likening Arabs to Nazis. Also, the fact that neo-Nazis constantly (and pathetically) try to co-opt Palestinian human rights activism to compare themselves to Palestinians should be very telling: the Zionist apparatus and neo-Nazi apparatus pushes the '''exact same bogus''', aka equivocating Palestinians with Nazis. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:00, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Also, when the Israeli hostages were released after that onslaught which killed several hundred Palestinians, one woman was harassed by fellow Israelis for testifying that she wasn't treated so terribly. This is among the thousands of case examples proving that Zionism is not about the salvation of the Jews, but the cementing of an ethnonationalist agenda which views its "own" people as disposable. And then there's the question of why Hamas kept the hostages alive for over half a year—IOWs, feeding them food and water—as their own Palestinians were dying of starvation if they are supposedly "only obsessed with Jew-hatred." I'd rather not continue in this diatribe, and this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88ucf14e24 brief clip] sums it up succinctly. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:04, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA4ezaH48tU This clip] as well is also quite revealing. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:05, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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2. Actually, the <font color=red>Nazis rejected at first</font>, a few times, Arab request to establish an <font color=red>Arab Nazi party</font>, at the Era of Heinrich Wolff.
 
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3. Why did Jamal Husseini order Mein Kampf books in the 1930s?
 
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<i>Farouq Qaddoumi, former PLO political bureau head, said: "I don't think it would be wrong to say that we were enthusiastic supporters of Germany" in World War II.</i>
 
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[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175316 PLO Official: We Supported the Nazis in WWII], Dec 19, 2013.
 
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The interviewer, seeking to clarify, then said, “You supported Hitler and his people.” Qaddoumi replied, “Germany, yes. This was common among the Palestinians, especially since our enemy was Zionism, and we saw that Zionism was hostile to Germany, and vice versa.”
 
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7. You also avoided the 1914 ''falastin'' which was banned for inciting racial hatred. BTW, the victims in 1929 Hebron massacre were non zionists pious Jews. What does this mean: [https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/jordanian-ex-minister-arabs-supported-hitler-because-he-hated-jews-607485 "we supported Hitler because he hated the Jews"]?
 
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I'm not defending every thing, this or that a zionist does or does not. (BTW. most Kaballah people are not zionists).
 
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Sorry, these clips you cite don't change the big picture. Trust me, I can present dozens of clips that prove otherwise.
 
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My dear friend LT. In general, as above too, I don't know why after showing a snipped example, you draw a conclusion. On a few occasions</b>.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:21, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Telling, I know you're of considerable sincerity: my point here is simply that Zionism at its ''true'' core—beyond face-value impression—is not about the salvation of the Jews, and that in its true fullest incarnation it is willing to throw Jews under the bus to accomplish another (reactionary and antisemitic) agenda (which is on behalf of the Jesuit/Maltese-controlled Anglo-Masons). —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 22:23, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::<b>I respect you very much.
 
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However </b>(please don't be insulted if I say there is a total confusion in your words)<b>: Clarity:
 
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</b>1.<b> I promise you that Herzl didn't study Kaballah. He was secular.
 
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</b>2. <b>The Neturei Karta guys you quoted are both: Talmudists and Kabbalists.
 
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</b>3.<b> Most kabbalists and most [avid] Talmudists are non Zionists.
 
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</b>4.<b> Zionism is an idea. It depends by which hands it is led. </b>5.<b> I do agree that some of Zionist icons were terrible. </b> PS I promise you, Zionists (in Israel) wouldn't understand your linking "masonic" to them. Nor would they link themselves to "masonic."[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:27, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Alright then, I will somewhat concede that at the very least, my narrative assessment could perhaps use some extra research and consideration. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:40, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Now, I would just like to point out that it's the Zionist notion of "Zionism representing the Jewish people" which, ironically enough, fuels Arab antisemitism. See, if the Arabs, massively discontent with what they see as "Zionist imperialism," are told that the Zionists represent the ideology and motivations of Jewish people ''en masse'', how do you think that will impact their long-term views on Jews? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 00:02, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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==Conflict & solution==
 
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When I say (or and quote) 'core problem' I don't mean everything is about that. Of course there are complex issues </b><small>such as Jerusalem, though it's the Arabs who invaded the land and some 40,000 Jews vanished aftewords. In truth, Muslims have largely deserted it till the Mufti woke them up to the mosque in order to use it as a motivation, yet it became a problem.</small> <b> But it's the <u>basis</u>.</b><br>
 
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<small>Cited above: The whole conflict is not rooted in Arab racism / Arab anti-Jewish supremacy? Why do you think the Arab leadership rejected partition in 1947? What was their [https://books.google.com/books?id=vHRUEAAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA239 stated reasoning] as outlined by Arab Higher Committe AHC spokesperson Jamal? [https://www.meforum.org/63545/jeffrey-herf-what-was-behind-the-miracle Quote]: <i>a speech given in London and New York in 1947 by Jamal Husseini, representative of the Arab Higher Committee of the Palestine Arabs of the United Nations, and [relative] of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, is significant. Husseini claimed the Arab world's "territorial continuity" served as a "natural bulwark for peace, <font color=red>homogeneity, and race</font>" that a Jewish state in the region would destroy.</i>
 
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[http://35.166.224.10/cols/horowitz041403.asp Two causes of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The first is Arab racism, rejects any presence that isn't Arab in its neighborhood; the second is Islamic intolerance which leads to same rejection].</small><b>
 
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<br>About Arab leadership initiating with Nazis I replied above</b>:
 
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<small>If it's all the fault for outsiders and not Arabs' themselves...
 
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1. Why initiate contact with Nazis? (In [https://books.google.com/books?id=vjsLAqafdQ8C&pg=PA37 1933], not just in [https://books.google.com/books?id=TsuADAAAQBAJ&pg=PA125 1936]
 
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See [https://books.google.com/books?id=cZ7oBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA118 1937]. In fact,
 
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[https://books.google.com/books?id=eJmLDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA313 "The admiration for Hitler was initiated by Arabs before the war"]. Also [https://books.google.com/books?id=DLPpAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA404 Joseph Francis tried]).
 
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2. Actually, the <font color=red>Nazis rejected at first</font>, a few times, Arab request to establish an <font color=red>Arab Nazi party</font>, at the Era of Heinrich Wolff.
 
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3. Why did Jamal Husseini order Mein Kampf books in the 1930s?
 
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4. And why continue that right after WW2 by themselves?
 
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<br>
 
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5. And please don't belittle Arabs' intelligence that much.
 
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6.
 
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Arab-Palestinians themselves contradict your theory and rationalization.
 
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<i>Farouq Qaddoumi, former PLO political bureau head, said: "I don't think it would be wrong to say that we were enthusiastic supporters of Germany" in World War II.</i>
 
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[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175316 PLO Official: We Supported the Nazis in WWII], Dec 19, 2013.
 
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The interviewer, seeking to clarify, then said, “You supported Hitler and his people.” Qaddoumi replied, “Germany, yes. This was common among the Palestinians, especially since our enemy was Zionism, and we saw that Zionism was hostile to Germany, and vice versa.”
 
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7. You also avoided the 1914 ''falastin'' which was banned for inciting racial hatred. BTW, the victims in 1929 Hebron massacre were non zionists pious Jews. What does this mean: [https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/jordanian-ex-minister-arabs-supported-hitler-because-he-hated-jews-607485 "we supported Hitler because he hated the Jews"]?</small><br><b>
 
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Not everything was rosy by zionist leadership, I can provide with event if you wish, but the core is the dual <u>bigotry</u> (Arab racism and Islamic bigotry).</b>
 
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<small>(Just to prove a point seeking out bigotry on the non Arab side - it is not compared in the magnitude. There is no comparison).</small><b>
 
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What now?
 
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The uniqueness at Palestinian culture is dancing to others' blood, en masse, in public, openly: Each time a (radical) Arab racist succeeds in murdering a Jew <small>including Haredim who all know,
 
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by-in-large even refuse to serve in the IDF</small> there is SICK joy, handing out sweets.
 
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Why do you think the textbooks and UNRWA [https://www.ynetnews.com/article/skjetv1eh teachers] is THE problem? It's not a few teachers. It's [https://unwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2022-Report-UNRWAs-Teachers-of-Hate.pdf 110!] Teachers of Hate. It's all over that place. Because no one is born a racist. It's about education.
 
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The doctrine of "apes and pigs" and adopting Nazi cartoons is TODAY. and not by "being duped by anglos".
 
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You really think if Palestinians get more land there will be peace? This whole Hamas rise is due to giving them more of Gaza in 2005.
 
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It's about incitement. As </b>[https://palwatch.org PalWatch] <b>documents</b>.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 08:00, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Telling, please consider this basic point I've been trying to get at multiple times: the notion of an "Arab-Nazi" affinity serves as the perfect propaganda apparatus to justify militarized Zionist oppression. Furthermore, neo-Nazis simultaneously compare themselves to Palestinians, so Zionist propagation of the notion, that Palestinians are Nazistic, is a dissemination of the exact same bogus coming from Nazi lies. Just let this sink in. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 17:37, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::The Arab-Nazi axis predates the founding of Israel. Hitler said to the [[Grand Mufti]], "I'm gonna deport all the Jews." Grand Mufti said, "Don't send em here." Hitler said, "What would you do with them?" and you know the rest of the story. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:57, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::Please read what I already said about Anglo-Masonic manipulation. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 18:52, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::I agree with Rob on this. And vilifying zionists and attaching canards affinity serves as the perfect propaganda apparatus to justify militarized aggression against Israel which has always faced an existential  threat and more broadly against Jews as a whole. Not referring to you LT or anti Zionists who are Jews but most (though not all) who pretend: "I'm only against zionists but not against Jews" -  is more used as a cover.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:00, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::Telling, I know it's bitchute, but [https://www.bitchute.com/video/jD5tCLsKhvhk what do you think of these Aussies explanation] of the difference between Jews & Zionists? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:29, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::I started watching...it reminded me of the viral clip "[https://www.instagram.com/unifiedjewishvoices/reel/C80MRlfyOsk/ congrats. you're a Zionist]" and a very short confrontation [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ThZdY3-sS7w  with a Middle Easterner]. I am surprised it's on bitchute which I shunned already 2 years ago understably why. Meanwhile Biden administration is again so late. We all knew that from the beginning. Not only that <small>Arab country of </small>Qatar <small>[the boss of Al Jazeera and linked to TheNewArab and MEE]</small> has been bribing colleges for years, as [https://isgap.org/follow-the-money/ Qatar & Muslim Brotherhood finance higher education] - exposed moreso [https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/syurrqlqr in May] and Qatar is main [https://www.jns.org/who-is-paying-for-the-american-campus-protests/ financier] of "protests" on campus: <i>US intel chief says Iran is attempting to stoke Gaza protests.</i> By Katie Bo Lillis, [https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/politics/haines-iran-gaza-protests/index.html CNN]. Published 3:43 PM EDT, Tue July 9, 2024. <i>Iran is attempting to covertly stoke protests in the United States related to the conflict in Gaza, US Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines said in a statement on Tuesday, posing as activists online and, in some cases, providing financial support to protesters.</i> [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:08, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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==Masonic jihad vs Rabbi Abraham Lincoln kabbalistic vs Bolshevik Richard Spencer==
 
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(Note Bolshevism added):
 
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Bashar al Assad the Kaballah student at night in his cellar together with TRT editors and "protocols of the elders of Zion" and Al Jazeera and (jihad butcher) Genghis Khan with Barbary Pirates cripto Erdogan and rabbi Abraham Lincoln (with his Talmud-ic hat) . There they met Hitler, together with al-husseini, they founded Koran and masonic lodge and KKK (chronology unimportant) to control the covid19 - Becuase Catholic-kaballistic Fauci is actually "inidegenous" palestinian from the Vatican. It was all inspired by Putin's grandmother who was a protestant Catholic Muslim third cousin (maybe) of a neighbor of a friend of a distant relative of someone that looks like Saint Paul or ADL or Bibi (doesn't matter). Hamas' vision of an islamic state was inspired by Hindu freemason from the Vatican. The Almohad dynasty and David Duke and the Commmunist Bolshevik GDL guy are or were (same difference) actually zionist, so is anglo-masonic PLO.
 
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I trust telling that LT is a good person. But this is exactly what this whole mish-mash sounds like.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:31, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Okay. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 16:15, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
 
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==Another subject: US politics==
 
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Do you think, if Biden still stays in the race, will this help GOP win in Nov.?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:31, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Yes; overall, I believe that this entire interlude of senile "Vegetocratic Fascism" was ''intended'' from the top-down NWO planners to induce enough far-left incompetence in the U.S. to drive the nation's populace frenzied and desperate enough to vote in the theocratic far right. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:39, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:: Thanks. Interesting language too. Note how MSM tries so hard to "refurbish" Kamala...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:55, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::Hmm, fair enough point—of course, Harris is even less popular than Biden with or without media rehabilitation efforts. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:58, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::my two cents: LT, the whole notion of "left-right" politics is basically braindead [[populist]] rhetoric. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:07, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::Yeah, I know. That's why I call mangomongers "Orange Bolshevists" and senilemongers "Vegetocratic Fascists." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 00:09, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::Re FP, if Trump wins, it's not illogical to suggest an analogy to Reagan - as soon he was elected the Iranians got cold feet and released the hostages... Point of psychological deterrence... IMHO. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 08:07, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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BTW. R.I.P. J. Inhofe.  A beautiful person.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:10, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
 
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==Peskov comments==
 
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What do you make of this: Kyiv hospital bombing was a "[https://pravda-en.com/world/2024/07/09/621020.html Jesuit PR operation on blood]". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:29, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:I can't view the site directly; let me see if archive.is is of any help... —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 18:35, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:Alright, it is [https://archive.is/7cwiE saved] in archive.is, though I can't watch the video itself. Overall, I think it's interesting when one considers that Putin himself is a Masonic puppet, aka he's compromised by the Anglo-Jesuit World Order. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 18:47, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::Well, I don't know how you make the connection between the Roman Catholic Jesuits and the Anglican Church, let alone both and the Russian Orthodox Church. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::Speaking of the Orthodox Church, it should be apparent why the Russia–Ukraine War started and consider ''cui bono'': the Jesuitic cabal pits Russian Orthodox against Ukrainian Orthodox so the Pope can offer the Catholic peace solution. [https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2023/05/10/pope-francis-russia-ukraine-peace-mission-245255][https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-says-ukraine-should-have-courage-white-flag-negotiations-2024-03-09/][https://apnews.com/article/pope-ukraine-gaza-vatican-francis-9e302a6e143fce9c872c2998ee976d52] Once thesis and antithesis mutually annihilate one another, a synthesis can be created. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:04, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::Ok, I see that, only without the nefarious motives.
 
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::::If you're having trouble making connections because of [[Big Tech]]/[[globalist]] [[censorship]], try adding [https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/115793 DD Geopolitics] to your YouTube subscriptions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:30, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::The "censorship" I've noticed is a bit different. Sources once-easily accessible (I use DuckDuckGo) via search results after a few weeks stop showing up at all, and I've observed this on Google Books when researching the Nazi-Fascist connection to Masonry. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:33, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::I can't even get the Yandex search engine through the Microsoft browser. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:38, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::Oh well, I plan on exposing the NWO with or without Big Tech censorship. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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::::::::Beware: The harder you try, the greater the censorship boot on your face. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:51, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::I will rely on the strength and mercy of the LORD God, thanks. I intend on serving the Almighty God of Heaven who is greater than the Satanic AJWO cabal. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:55, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
 
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==LT: Your lies/deception/hate==
 
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The ''Dirt on jooz wave''
 
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I'm glad you uttered that "nakbas" plural propaganda, so you revealed your "palestinian" sources no less (or/and Hamas linked: Qatari/Iranian/Turkish sites or Iranian paid ones). It's also a fact: Islamic pro jihad CAIR lobby / Rashida propaganda referring to Arab "Palestinians" as if they were a separate "race." Too.
 
  
 
Had it been merely about "criticizing" Israel, that would have been a different matter.
 
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There is also no point in getting so personal on such a childish way you just did with RobS. We are putting up with your sh#t but not that personal on/with childish stuff. Don't destroy CP.  
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There is also no point in getting so personal on such a childish way you just did with RobS. We are putting up with your sh#t but not that personal on/with childish stuff. Dont destroy CP.
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*This guy doesn't even realize how monstrous he is by dismissing the noble work of so many years of B'nai B'rith by fighting hatred.
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LT's pseudo motto is, you have to find but a case or/and a (dubious) "source," in order to discredit an organization - which you have predestined to be dismissed because of your 'bigger plan' bigotry. And then to elevate the "found" "source"
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Of course LT refused to answer how many Jews could have been saved had it not been for the White Paper by the Anglos pressured by ALL Arab leadership - radicals or moderate.
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Note how he avoided all the facts, especially the sick joy of most Arabs in Palestine in 1942 as news about mass slaughter came about.
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The new and "improved" line is that not only were the nazi Arab leadership "duped" by Anglos (masonic or not fill in the blanks) when Voice of the Arabs editor joined Goebbeles in 1933 for example, but the Anglos of 1920s are still "duping" the Hamas and PIJ terrorists today to add notes to their favorite book after Koran which is Mein Kampf and why Arafat had it or why Nasser distributed among his soldiers - you see? This "inspiration" by Arab leadership 1950s-2024 is actually by the 1920s Anglos, even each and every swastika the Arabs draw today. Better yet, the Anglos of the 1920s are duping the ever so "innocent" Neo nazis today to join palestine protests because they are "told" to by "da jooz."
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Have you noticed how he tried to discredit Psalms 137 because a smaller group cited it?
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After LT chose his devious road, he then went out shoppin' but couldn't find his despicable desired "finding," (yet). Remember his deceptive wording "cabal" play on an ancient study and how he tried to link it via a pathetic pick and choose and "connecting dots" he chose? Hey, not even the mason/mason/mason favorite blah-blah any more. Still, in search of dirt on Z. at least he came back from the flea market with so much joy dancing with his doggie bag. Yet when faced with reality of the complexity of Z the good vs the bad, he still did not back from his pre-designed lines which he "concluded" to be "intrinsic" to his satisfaction - before  searching for dirt which of course he only always "stumbles upon accidentally."
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<font size=4>'''July-Sep 2024'''.
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On top of all that. This bigot who happens to be [Asian], adopted the user name "E. Goldstein" with his nazi-nazi-nazi fetish, a complete upside-down terminology and concepts word salad posting, using style and material garbage-collecting from laRouche and various neo Nazi and/or Holocaust denial pages before googling up who else might mention similar things so he can edit and conceal his original "sources." He selects out attributed (true or false) to those of masters of deception - a SS guy, recommending it as if "truthful,"  but only if it can defame Jews.
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(In his hotchpotch for loathing, he absurdly "connects" people, concepts and groups, apples and organges often even of opposites. His boring repeated language about true opposites often is: "two sides of the same coin").
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Since 'nazi' is known as negative, he applies it only to Jews. This youngman, who, as was mentioned - barely turning drinking age in 2024/5, has managed to disseminate hatred what other neo Nazis did in years. Obsessive in using WW2 terminology but as slurs,</font> especially if he knows someone had relatives in family as survivors.<font size=4> Among other things, he wrote Holocaust in plural[https://archive.is/P8p6g/777e02931b108534e0914f0c960d8bc67f00207b.jpg], masking [https://archive.ph/cHgEX/e7ac4ce6fec7e3ace8e1a4a8c9cbbd302e446546.jpg] his venom as merely against "zionists," of course.</font>
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What's baseness at his WW2 language, here comes a lowlife with exactly the <u>same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion</u>, and talks about victims blaming only the deceiving end of Nazi Germany.
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Racist '''L'''ying '''T'''roll also "decides" who is Jewish who is "not." He is excited only about those that go against other Jews.
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[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:58, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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==More from distorting lying trolling upside down language sick style==
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More from '''L'''ying '''T'''roll upside down language sick style:
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Yes is No.<br>
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No is yes.<br>
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Racism is "anti racist".<br>
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Sharon is Hamaz.<br>
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Hamas is IDF.<br>
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Terror is human rights.<br>
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Trump is Harris.<br>
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Harris is Trump.<br>
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Good is bad.<br>
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Bad is good.<br>
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Nazis are "anti-nazi"...<br>
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Iran is now Israel.<br>
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US is North Korea.<br>
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Islam is Christianity.<br>
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Real original true Nazis - not their fault <br>-
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Their victims are so called "nazi".<br>
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Right is left.<br>
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Left is right.<br>
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Night is day...<br>
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[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:23, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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:It's unfortunate to see, but Senior Admin [[User:Conservative]] has transformed [[Conservapedia]] from an information source to a forum for [[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] over the past 2 and a half years.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:25, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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*I hear Nazi-Nazi-fetish '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has been desperately sending frantic emails. Isn't he busy with the audience who cheer for every David Duke LaRouche speech?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
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::He evidently didn't read the bible:
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::*''Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety.'' - Pr 11:14
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::*''Plans are established by counsel; by wise guidance wage war.'' - Pr 20:18
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:::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 12:05, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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::::Ps. 18:27 "...but bring low those whose eyes are haughty."[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
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== Lying Troll  - sockpuppeting on various forums, wikis ==
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This[https://archive.ph/doPKu] proves '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has been engaging in SP on '''various''' sites. It's no wonder, in his overall dishonesty. .[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 18:10, September 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:This [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:EditorForFreedom one] - [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hamas&diff=prev&oldid=2093496 seems] to be a Sock of LT or whom ''it'' communicated with.[[User:LaMarina|LaMarina]] ([[User talk:LaMarina|talk]]) 02:20, December 23, 2024 (EST)
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== LyingTroll of few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews ==
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A few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews:
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* Tom Metzger (in the late '80 on a TV show).
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* Lyndon LaRouche.
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* David Irving (as shown on the movie [https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4645330/ Denial]
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* Lying Troll. (elevating Nazis' propaganda as well).
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[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 01:07, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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*So far: Anyone missing his nazi-nazi fetish (bio nazi, cristo nazi, whatever), upside down warped "two sides of the coin" BS and hurling Holocaust era concepts as racist slurs (before being blocked)? Or pretending to be one's "friend" one day against another member and vice versa the next?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:49, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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== Jesus studied Kaballah [secular] zionists did not. Plus bigotry pattern here.  ==
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<b>For a while, LT has been maliciously googling a combination of the Jewish religion and the word N. After "finding" weird "sources," he tried sneaky ways in editing pages along these 'dark' lines.
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Before LT adopted (</b>[https://archive.is/P8p6g/777e02931b108534e0914f0c960d8bc67f00207b.jpg] Sep 8, 2024] <small>- saved by Dianne</small>) <b>the whitewashing of Nazis by Abbas about so called "50 holocaust[sic]s plural...
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Weeks after publicity of Holocaust denier and liar </b>[https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-758091], with a long record [https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/09/13/mahmoud-abbas-jewish-problem/] <b>of rewrite of history - Mahmoud Abbas uttered the "Khazar" myth and was slammed all over.</b>
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[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-66741336], [https://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-abbass-holocaust-speech-fuels-antisemitism-insults-holocaust-victims/], [https://www.eureporter.co/world/israel/2023/09/11/eu-slams-mahmoud-abbas-false-and-grossly-misleading-remarks-on-jews-and-anti-semitism/], [https://www.thejc.com/news/world/uae-condemns-mahmoud-abbas-claim-that-hitler-killed-jews-because-of-social-role-xxmnvrmi],
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[https://www.australianjewishnews.com/australia-condemns-mahmoud-abbas-antisemitic-remarks/], [https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-758258], [https://nationalpost.com/opinion/mahmoud-abbas-openly-flaunts-his-antisemitism-for-all-to-see],<b> even by anti-Israel liberal</b> [[Haaretz]][https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-09-11/ty-article-opinion/.premium/mahmoud-abbas-once-an-antisemitic-holocaust-denier-always-an-antisemitic-holocaust-denier/0000018a-7f9c-d2a8-a5ca-7ffd39600000]), <b>LT asked me about it </b>[https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Telling#What_do_you_know_about_the_DEBUNKED_Khazar.E2.80.93myth.3F], <b>so I referred him then to the RW piece. Now with his marathon against Da Jouz, he tried to promote it.
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<u>Remember, it is LT who tries to change the status quo of CP from what/how it has been for years.</u></b>
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<small>
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(Recently , as part of his long terrible record of provoking members one against the other, he has been desperately emailing falsehood, of course. So I clicked on LT's the (radical liberal) [[Haaretz]] link.
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Firstly, neither ''Conservative'', nor ''RobSmith'' nor ''Dianne'' nor l, have ever supported the targeting of non terrorists by some of the "Hill boys" who are a losely bunch of youth. But again, like he did on the Oct 7 Arab Palestine massacres, quoting 'Haaretz' [https://www.conservapedia.com/Haaretz] of one case of panic after it was already attacked, and expanding what they didn't say, all in order to support his bigotry. This is LT's pattern of "sources." And he links people, ideologies, groups who are never connected too.
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Secondly, it's different if one Jew mentions on another this N term. Just as blacks freely hurl that N word on other blacks.  But not for this one with his young age and already with such a horrific history.</small>
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And in one single rant, LT has managed to link opposites, as usual. Despite the hard facts, that the Israeli intelligence are harsher on radicals among settlers (- who I'm against) and or violent among "hill boys" (- who I'm against), than on Arabs. These non-Arabs face real torture by Mossad, Shin Bet interrogators. (Examples among many:[https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/settlers-leaders-to-netanyahu-probe-torture-claims-by-duma-suspects-438008],
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[https://www.jewishpress.com/news/police-news/seeking-confession-at-all-costs-israeli-court-ag-endorsed-torture-of-jewish-american-minor/2018/02/08/]).
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Though much of "settler violence" is rather provoked by so called "human rights activists." [https://www.jns.org/how-the-settler-violence-campaign-works/]
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<small>Someone told him in a dream that his laughable "monograms" are "not" childish.</small> 😂.
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<b>One would ask why LT "deserves" attention, the answer is, that to destroy, even a little -- nobody --kid could do horrific damage.</b>
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But as the holy Talmud said, whoever persecutes the Jewish people, ascends...for a while, till he drops and falls (in shame).
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[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 08:21, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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:Call me an eternal optimist, but I see an opportunity here for User:LT to show some leadership. He could step up and apologize to the community for abusing editors on a matter he knows little about, and corrupted by media accounts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 05:44, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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*Cheers RobS. But not if his "apology" is as "sincere" as weeks ago injecting WW2 terms as slurs ONLY to hurt people. Besides, he has already done do much damage with his poisonous nazi nazi fetish and warped "history" spamming,  upside down terminology.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 05:54, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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::Here precisely is the problem: We have editors who know and understand ZERO about the so-called 'Israel-Palestinian dispute' or the 'Ukraine-Russia conflict', they try to educate themselves by popular media accounts, and spend months and months harassing other editors with their newly founded 'wisdom' and 'expertise'. They are essentially [[troll]]s, and do not understand ''why'' [[Conservapedia]] was founded. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:34, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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:::Speaking of misinformation. '''L'''ying'''T'''rolls repeated links --as pointed out by Telling-- on the M.E. conflict are either Iranian or Qatari linked, or of the radical left.
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[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:31, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
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::::AlJazeera/MiddleEastEye/TheNewArab are Qatar linked; any ".ir" and pressTV al-medayeen or Mehr among many others are Iranian (Islamic Fascist Republic influences are at ''Grayzone'' too, as even liberal WaPo exposed, hence, certainly any M.E. "data" there isn't reliable); any ".tr" and TRT or Anadolu is Turkey's. Next, he will pick an [[Islamism|Islamist]] Turkey's government linked site...as "source."
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In regards to what Rob said,
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Proverbs: "He that covereth his transgressions shall not prosper; but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall obtain mercy."
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[https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2828.htm]. Emphasis on '''forsaketh'''.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 16:36, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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:Amen. Everything the New Testament says is said in the Old Testament. ''There is no new thing under the sun.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:37, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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== Nazi fetish still hurling slurs  ==
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'''LT still used K. As a slur (via email like Sep 29 and Sep 30), knowing fully well my family history and grandparents linked to Holocaust survivors. '''
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The following is copied from September 20 entry on RobS talk page:
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[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])•
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<font size=4>As established. Of course '''L'''ying '''T'''roll is routinely using WW2 terms as a slur and swearing.</font>
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BTW, nazi fetish LT, '''L'''ying '''T'''roll has mentioned the word kapo 4 or five times these days.  Some were good some where bad (that is an internal Jewish reckoning. There were many <u>Jews who converted to Christianity who betrayed the Jewish people by telling on them and inciting the government</u>), but not for a nazi Nazi-fetish-LT terrible boy) but all were under the Nazi threat.
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But what's baseness is, here comes a lowlife <u>with exactly the same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion</u>, and talks about victims. Who says that all relatives of my grandparents were murdered just in a camp where EVERY EMPLOYEE was under the nazi boot and not by fanatical bigots like LT? But just as Lying Troll cast Sulzberger as "zionist," he is all about hurting people. Not about facts or history.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 09:12, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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<small><small>(Added July 17, 2025:<br>
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Vera Alexander testified in Eichmann trial session 71 that most kapos were good and tried their best to limit.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 18:30, July 17, 2025 (EDT))
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</small></small>
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:I am in agreement. The hurling of slurs at other users (for example, "[https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Community_Portal/archive2#RobS_becoming_a_pawn_and_a_.22useful_idiot.22_of_an_atheist_website a useful idiot of an atheist website]") has a long and destructive history in [[Conservapedia]]. I have been trying to reform the process for more than a dozen years, to no avail.
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:I am trying to negotiate to allow LT to be unblocked so that he can apologize and attempt to mitigate some of the damage he's done to the community. But as of now, he apparently wants to continue following the [[User:Conservative]]/[[Rationalwiki]] school of [[trolling]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:38, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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::T. and you have been very patient when he embarked in July 2024 with his sick upside-down language, including weird tantrum like obsession in using the word "nazi" always when it's the contrary. Who convinced him that if he repeats his garbage again and again he won't lose more respect? Of course he was never about facts, truth, history or even being honest.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 17:05, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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:::He learned that from Senior Admin [[User:Conservative]]: When called out on improper conduct and incivility, he doubles down on [[malicious trolling]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:55, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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== He blames the Jews for Hitler ==
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'''L'''ying '''T'''roll still blames[https://web.archive.org/web/20240930234716/https://i.ibb.co/Lv2479H/IMG-20240930-WA0006.jpg] the Jews for Hitler, and he is the one using the nazi term on others. We also remember him promoting a self declared fascist as a "source." (Besides, as T. pointed out above [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:LT#Jesus_studied_Kaballah_.5Bsecular.5D_zionists_did_not._Plus_bigotry_pattern_here.]  his pseudo references/sources how he misuses, deceives.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 20:16, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
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:Some months ago I attempted to do [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:AFD_Essay:Russian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990332&oldid=1990330 a poll on building acceptable community standards], but due to the incessant [[trolling]] by a Senior Admin, the whole thing degenerated into a series of more [[personal attacks]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup>
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* Just for the record, I didn't know 'oriental' is offensive to some before a forwarded email. (And of course, needless to say, I have no intolerance to any 'race'). Asian is important in the context of an Asian adopting David Duke rants Or/and as T. pointed out copying Holocaust deniar the Arab Issa Nakhle linked site garbage. And With his upside-down terminology or/and word salad.
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And about his dirty [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:LT&diff=prev&oldid=2078322] language on me. Not all Jews look like the nazi cartoons he seems to like. Some even look like "aryans".[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:21, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
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Hi, Rob. Long time no see.
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The oldest trick in the book is to commit a crime, and then blame someone else for it. This gives the criminal three advantages:
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#They get the pleasure of blaming someone else, while looking good themselves.
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#They get away with the crime.
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#They get to hurt another person.
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Good people don't do this. It's a violation of the [[Judeo-Christian]] tradition. (Of course, you already know this ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:29, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
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*God bless you Ed Poor. 
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RobS is actually againt this LT behavior.
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It's LT who blames Jews for Hitler, not RobS.
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This is about LT, he just pasted it all from his talk page on to here.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:38, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
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:Thanks Dianne. This confusion arises because Andy allows [[User:Conservative]] to abuse his user talk page, so discussions and comments get moved and posted elsewhere. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 05:16, October 6, 2024 (EDT)
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== Un"Holy" hate ==
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On top of using Holocaust related terms only as slurs and only on those of the nation - victim of it, he invoked 'Judas' on a Christian - Oct 1, 2024.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 12:42, October 1, 2024 (EDT)
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==King Solomon==
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You like studying and quoting King Solomon:
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{{Cquote|''A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.''|||Pr. 13:22}}
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How do you think the Rothschilds got all their money? or do you deny the truth of God's word? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:52, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
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==Obsessed against Jewish victims==
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:Of course Lying Troll is obsessed AGAINST Nazi victims.
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Rothschild...
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<blockquote>Nazi feature film: Antisemitic and anti-British propaganda.
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Film |  Digitized | Accession Number: 1994.121.1 | RG Number: RG-60.1201 | Film ID: 982
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https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1001972</blockquote>
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But in neo nazi style of "death to the juice", (we didn't say Jews...) he poses as "anti nazi"...
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It's also why he demonizes the Star of David, exactly becauae the Nazis forced their victims to wear it .[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 19:53, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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==Sneaky misrepresenting==
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Misrepresenting Hydrich.
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So, when the official German policy was not yet total annihilation, but expulsion, Hydrich liked the idea of, at least, Jews not assimilating with Germans. [In other words, get away, don't come near us]. What he basically said was, he rejects 'assimilationists.' The fact, he wrapped it in a cosmetic way, does not make him different from Goebbels and from what he really was.
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Of course sneaky deceitful LT knows all that.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 01:47, May 19, 2025 (EDT)
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== LyingTroll of few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews ==
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A few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to supposedly "help" the Jews:
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* Tom Metzger (in the late '80 on a TV show).
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* Lyndon LaRouche.
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* David Irving (as quoted in film, [https://www.jwi.org/articles/deborah-lipstadt-on-denial Denial].
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* Lying Troll. (elevating Nazis' propaganda as well).[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 22:46, October 5, 2024 (EDT)
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==Gentle reminder==
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Remember what you signed on to (before someone unilaterally changed the language without prior discussion or consent of the members):
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:<big>''We, the undersigned editors, at the CP Civility Association pledge to work cooperatively '''[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:CP_Civility_Association&diff=1999023&oldid=1998864 with <u>everyone</u> here in good faith...]'''''</big>
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==Topic ban==
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'''Notice:''' You have been [[topic ban]]ned from editing mainspace and talk pages related to Jews/Israel/Zionism/Nazism for a duration of 6 months, effective immediately. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:10, October 1, 2024 (EDT)
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'''Notice:''' Your [[Topic ban]]ning has been extended 1 month to 7 months for [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Swords_of_Iron:_sources_IIII&diff=2078382&oldid=2078362 violation of the Topic ban]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:09, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
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== Long record of abuse ==
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See [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:LT&diff=next&oldid=1728973 this] (before Karajou 'corrected' it) example.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 13:19, October 11, 2024 (EDT)
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:From that link we see User:LT lists the following as "Real news":
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:*Commentary Archives - The Western Journal
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:*The Epoch Times - Truth and Tradition
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:*Breitbart News Network
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:*The Daily Caller
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:*The Washington Free Beacon
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:*The Gateway Pundit
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:What User:LT doesn't realize is he is making it easy for critics to claim he gets his [[antisemitic]] views from those sources. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:04, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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* Free Beacon https://freebeacon.com/ is actually great. Breitbart is also OK. However, since then, he changed sources and since July 2024 has immersed himself in Nazi or its style, over and over and over again: garbage sites, before he searches their material anywhere else finding parts of it, so he can cover his dirty tracks. Pathetic [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]])
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::He should have just researched what any of those sources say about [[LaRouche]] before his [LT's] conversion from the [[conservative]] movement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:13, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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:::That too. As of now, he has but one bigoted obsession. And chronically sick at that.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 20:17, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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::::It's an old story but bears repeating (he learned it is acceptable in [[Conservapedia]] from [[User:Conservative]]): They begin with a conclusion, then cherry pick Google results to confirm their views (as if they did some real research), paying ZERO attention to who the source is. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:13, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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::::And for all the trash talk of the [[MSM]], their daily thoughts and actions are guided by the MSM. It's like the both of them are living on the [[Democrat plantation]] - afraid to think for themselves or challenge the "conventional wisdom". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:29, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
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== LyingTroll's garbage style: "Hitler was onto something " ==
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[https://archive.ph/qTIqD/8c1583cb6d83c64b368f9f4d1e62a29dd7ad16e2.jpg] [https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/398444 'Hitler was onto something'. Antisemite harasses customers at kosher restaurant in Brooklyn. 10.31.24] reminds LyingTroll's "he was onto something" and "two sides of the same coin" sick warped mind and language. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 17:54, October 31, 2024 (EDT)
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== Why was LyingTroll upset about this? ==
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Regarding this
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https://archive.ph/WBR3S [https://web.archive.org/web/20241126012844/https://www.conservapedia.com/images/9/97/Profile-_hate_and_lies1.jpg]
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Didn't he flaunt his behaviour? BTW it does not specify or mention a name. So it could mean others too. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 20:29, November 25, 2024 (EST)
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== Survivor from Arab-Nazi 1941 pogrom, murdered by "palestinian" Arabs Oct 7 ==
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R. I. P. Shlomo.
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[[File:Shlomo Mansour Arab-Nazi Farhud survivor murdered by Palestine-Hamas Oct 7.jpg|thumb|Shlomo Mansour: Arab-Nazi Farhud survivor, murdered by "Palestine" Hamas, on Oct 7]].
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([[Younis_Bahri#Farhud|Farhoud]]).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 01:06, February 12, 2025 (EST)
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{{clear}}
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==Mark Levin on Hegel's synthesis-antithesis==
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[https://youtu.be/aFE67Zha15s]
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== No "nazi" w/o anti Jew ==
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Not only are you generalizing all Jews but you ironically use contradiction. Your Arab "semite" leader partially convinced the real Nazis -who you imply to place above Jews- to use the term anti-Jew and not anti Semite.[[User:LaMarina|LaMarina]] ([[User talk:LaMarina|talk]]) 17:16, July 17, 2025 (EDT)
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:Yes, and I would caution LT by saying that it is one thing to criticize [[Bibi Netanyahu]] and the Netanyahu administration, it's another thing to go off on these ideological rants. And I would even caution against incorporating those ideological rants in criticism of Netanyahu. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup>
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::Hello there, Ro-<font size=5 color=red><b>Balaam</b></font> Smith! I know I should be staying out of these conversations, but since you commented here "first," I would just like to say that in light of all you've wronged against me in the past few years, I would like to take a moment first and foremost in accordance with the Christian spirit to bless you and wish good upon your life. Hope you are making it through, able to economically survive, and have retained more mental sanity than I have. How was your Thanksgiving last year? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 15:07, July 18, 2025 (EDT)
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:::I'm fine, thanks for asking.
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:::Yes, these are hard times and trying on men's souls. But there is no reason to join in in the insanity. I guess that's what life is all about - keeping your bearings straight. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 15:12, July 18, 2025 (EDT)
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==Reason for blocking==
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5 strikes after warning, lied to Andy he'll stick to Bible stuff - All know he's about 1 obsession, deceitfully using holy books for it, even created a page solely for that before Andy deleted.  '''Still used SS nazism as slurs''' Quite a few members want him permabanned. So now editwar w/ 2 members again? Hate+disruption. Maybe he needs another year to cure from obsessed hate virus and behave[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
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==Reason for re-blocking==
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Despite complaints, LT disingenuously continued to email his hate and lies link [what other members referred to as upside-down terminology and rewriting history, facts] under the guise of "Bible study."[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 09:05, September 25, 2025 (EDT)
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:ahh, so he's an [[idiot]]. I still don't think he's beyond rehabilitation. Most of us were idiots when we were young. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 10:29, September 25, 2025 (EDT)
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:Now if you were born in 1969 as [[Grok]] says, you have no excuse for proving over and over again daily what an [[idiot]] you are. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 10:36, September 25, 2025 (EDT)
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::I agree totally for this block. It's the '''gross deception''': calling people to a '''Nazi type hatred masquerading as "Bible study" on a Bible promoting site'''. He was warned in 2024 not to email to certain peple. Yet he repeatedly engages in incivility.
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Imagine a KKK emailing a church group calling to a conference under the title "Bible atudy."[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 13:45, September 26, 2025 (EDT)
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:I didn't even read it, but I'll take your word for what it says.
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:As a [[boomer]], I feel we have failed passing on to our children what [[Nazism]] & [[Fascism]] really is, turning it instead into just an insult. This raises the danger of it reappearing, as people really don't know what it is. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:00, September 26, 2025 (EDT)
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::My last edit reverting someone's content on this page was an accidental mistake. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:08, September 26, 2025 (EDT)
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==Other matters unrelated to this user specifically==
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:::Ok, thank you. Mark this moment - the [[narcissist]] [[User:Conservative]] admitted to a mistake.
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:::Are you going to clean up the rest of your mistaken [[information pollution]] you dumped into [[Conservapedia]]?
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User:Conservative just added [[Heil Hitler]] to his user page
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[[User:Conservative ]] added [[Slava Ukraine|Heil Hitler]] to his user page. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&curid=180781&diff=2162492&oldid=2162491] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.[[User:LT]] was just blocked infinitely for the same [[malicious]] intent. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:12, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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Now he's changed the [[Nazi]] slogan to "[[Ukrainian nationalist]]". [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&curid=180781&diff=2162526&oldid=2162505] This is typical of the duplicity he engages in.
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He was told years ago about the [[Ukrainian Nazi]] salute. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=7f9ef5536dff44b6e2ca9eedfe237381%2B%5C] For this reason he's been [[Topic ban]]ned from international politics. I'd like to see him try tearing up the neo-Nazi [[Ukrainian nationalist]] page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:32, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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==''[[NYT]]'': [https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010529017/can-the-right-confront-antisemitism-in-its-ranks.html Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?]==
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[[File:True conservatives don't believe in the very liberal concept of hate crimes! Conservative (talk) 18 59, October 1 2025.PNG|center|850px|thumb|[[User:Conservative]] turned [[Conservapedia]] into a [[neo-Nazi]] [[fascist]] and [[antisemitic]] mouthpiece.]] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 11:21, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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:[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_6015c7db-5036-43da-9bea-3a133104ad3e Why is it that many American conservatives don't believe in the concept of hate crimes?]
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:'''Summary:''' "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."
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:I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:44, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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===User:Conservative added [[Heil Hitler]] to his user page===
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[[File:1538852447 zagolovok.jpg|center|650px|thumb|[[Ukrainian nationalist]]s welcome [[Nazi]]s, 1941.<br>''Above in the [[Latin]] alphabet'': [[Heil Hitler]]! ''Below in the [[Cyrillic]] alphabet the salute in the collaborationist [[UPA]]'': Glory to the Heroes! - Slave Ukraini!]]
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[[User:Conservative ]] added [[Slava Ukraine|Heil Hitler]] to his user page. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&curid=180781&diff=2162492&oldid=2162491] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.[[User:LT]] was just blocked infinitely for the same [[malicious]] intent.
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He was told years ago about the [[Ukrainian Nationalist]] salute. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=7f9ef5536dff44b6e2ca9eedfe237381%2B%5C] For this reason he's been [[Topic ban]]ned from international politics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:Untrue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:41, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::It is true. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=7f9ef5536dff44b6e2ca9eedfe237381%2B%5C] [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/LT User:LT was blocked infinitely] for the same [[malice|malicious intent]].
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::Need the timeline? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:48, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::[[User:Conservative]] and I personally discussed this exact terminology more than 3 years ago, both on the [[wiki]] and on the phone. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/9ttm23dLLNbU/ Watch what happens when the NATO-backed soldier gives the official Nazi greeting, "Slava Ukraine" (Heil Hitler)]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:49, October 5, 2025 (EDT)
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Andy, this just appeared on my autofeed on my phone: [https://paw.princeton.edu/article/moment-andrew-schlafly-81-conservapedia A moment with ... Andrew Schlafly '81, on 'Conservapedia'] paw.princeton.edu
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Andy Schlafly: "[[Conservatism]] is an approach that adheres to [[original intent]] in interpreting older documents..."
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To say the documented [[original intent]] of Russian, Ukrainian, and other [[Eastern European]] [[society|societies]] about the original meaning and current usage of [[Slava Ukraine]] in schools, academia, [[culture]]s and current usage is "far fetched" makes one sound like a [[liberal]] Supreme Court Justice.
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Here's the thing about [[original intent]]: to understand original intent, one must ''unlearn'' many inbuilt [[bias]]es and re-definitions accumulated over time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:26, November 21, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:Slava Ukraine.PNG|center|850px|thumb|August 16, 2018.]]
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{{Cquote|In the mythology of Ukraine, along with the myths about the "great past", there are legends aimed at distorting the truth about the shameful pages of the formation of the ukronacist ideology. A vivid example of this is the desire to hide and whitewash the Nazi essence of the slogan "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!"|||[https://en.topwar.ru/147996-mify-o-proishozhdenii-ukrainy-i-ukraincev-mif-9-slava-ukraine-gerojam-slava-heil-hitler-sieg-heil.html Myths about the origin of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. Myth 9. "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!"], October 8, 2018,}}
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:Link to [[Ukrainian Nationalist]] directly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:40, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:Note: None of this is new to [[User:Conservative]]. It was presented to him in detail in the spring 2022, where he changed his mind and admitted to the [[fact]] that [[Nazi]]s served under [[Zelensky]]. His actions have been [[malicious]], targeting specific users with offensive postings, and deserve the same treatment [[User:LT]] got.
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_55d52f62-1a20-4b0a-baa8-1a417dfb1f8e Is the term "Slava Ukraini" a Nazi phrase or is it anti-semitic? Give a summary statement.]: "No, the term "Slava Ukraini" ("Glory to Ukraine") is not a Nazi phrase, nor is it anti-Semitic. It is a longstanding Ukrainian patriotic salute with roots in the 19th–early 20th century national movement, predating fascism and Nazism... Claims labeling it as inherently Nazi largely stem from Soviet-era and modern Russian propaganda aimed at discrediting Ukrainian nationalism and sovereignty." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:41, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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I have [[Topic ban]]ned [[User:Conservative]] in the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative&diff=2162721&oldid=2162715 area of international affairs] for 6 months for repeated violations and [[trolling]]. It is his second offense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 22:39, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
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===Should Conservapedia allow [[User:Conservative]] to create [[Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine]]?===
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AAFD_Essay%3ARussian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990335&oldid=1990334]
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Or should [[Conservapedia]] have written, enforceable [[community standards]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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===[[Anti-Semitism]] in [[Conservapedia]]===
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[[File:Nazi symbols, salutes on display at Ukrainian nationalist march.PNG|thumbnail|center|650px|]]
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[[File:Ukraine humor.png|thumbnail|center|650px]]
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<center><big>'''Andy, why do you allow [[User:Conservative]] to deface the [[American flag]]?'''</big></center>
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[[File:Screenshot 20-12-2025 05816.jpeg|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-dems-slammed-for-waving-ukrainian-flag-in-chamber-of-us-house-disgusting Members of Congress rebuked for flying the Ukrainian flag].]]
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== An extra 50,000–300,000 Russian casualties (killed and wounded combined) per year if User: Conservative does conversion rate optimization for Ukraine's drone fundraising websites ==
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'''Question:''' Will RobSmith keep pestering User: Conservative and gossiping about him? If so, what are the likely consequences?
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ChatGPT and Grok indicate:
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*[https://chatgpt.com/share/694911e1-b93c-800d-b249-310c15a44fb7 How good is the conversion rate optimization for Ukraine's drone fundraising websites? Estimate the increase in funding via improved conversion rate optimization?]
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'''Summary:''' "If major Ukraine-focused fundraising platforms improved their conversion rate optimization at scale, realistic estimates suggest an extra ~$80–$430 million in donations per year could be generated. At typical frontline drone costs (≈ $500 per unit), that additional funding could translate into roughly 160,000 to 860,000 extra low-cost drones per year, assuming funds were directed primarily toward drone procurement."
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[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_0e6e63d1-4fe5-4eae-aa74-1d9474c508b6 Grok said] regarding: "ChatGPT said: "If major Ukraine-focused fundraising platforms improved their conversion rate optimization at scale, realistic estimates suggest an extra ~$80–$430 million in donations per year could be generated. At typical frontline drone costs (≈ $500 per unit), that additional funding could translate into roughly 160,000 to 860,000 extra low-cost drones per year, assuming funds were directed primarily toward drone procurement." Do you concur?"
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'''Summary statement''': "Based on public data from Ukrainian military reports, Western analyses, and drone unit statistics as of late 2025, '''the additional 250,000–750,000 low-cost FPV drones could realistically cause an estimated 50,000–300,000 Russian casualties (killed and wounded combined) per year''', assuming typical deployment patterns, hit rates (20–50% success per drone due to electronic warfare and other factors), and average effectiveness (0.2–0.4 casualties per drone, often targeting infantry or small vehicles with 1–2 impacts per successful strike).
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This range accounts for variability: lower-end assumes conservative hit rates and partial allocation to non-lethal roles (e.g., reconnaissance); higher-end reflects optimized use in high-intensity sectors like Pokrovsk or Donetsk, where elite units like the "Birds of Magyar" have achieved ~0.4–0.5 casualties per drone in monthly stats. Not all drones would directly cause casualties—some fail, are jammed, or support indirect operations—but scaled production and tech improvements (e.g., AI guidance boosting success to 70–80% in some cases) amplify impact.
  
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More LT neo nazi tropes [https://archive.is/WQUZq]
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In context, drones already account for 60–80% of Russian frontline losses (per RUSI reports and Ukrainian claims), with daily Russian casualties averaging ~1,200 (cumulative ~1.2 million since 2022 per Ukrainian General Staff). Extra drones could meaningfully shift battlefield dynamics, potentially saving Ukrainian lives by reducing close-quarters engagements." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:46, December 22, 2025 (EST).
  
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Please[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 23:33, August 10, 2024 (EDT)
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:[[Spamming]] his desire to participate in killing 50,000 - 300,000 people on a permanently blocked editor's talk page should be conclusive evidence of [[malicious]] intent to do harm to other people, IMO. And this after the [[United States Department of Justice]] cited his writings by name as inspiration in an attempted murder federal [[hate crime]] indictment where the accused was convicted. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 16:37, September 14, 2026 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 20:41, September 14, 2026

Welcome!

Hello, LT, and welcome to Conservapedia!

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Your lies/deception/hate

The Dirt on jooz wave

I'm glad you uttered that "nakbas" plural propaganda, so you revealed your "palestinian" sources no less (or/and Hamas linked: Qatari/Iranian/Turkish sites or Iranian paid ones).

Had it been merely about "criticizing" Israel, that would have been a different matter. But it's not about Israeli policies. It's that overall anti Jewish negativity that leads you to rewrite history, even ridiculously claiming Hitler --supposedly-- supported power (i.e. National Home) to Jews just because he chased them out before being able to exterminate - his ultimate plan. (Heck, you even misinterpreted lately Biblical versus one after the other - some "Christian" alright).

Looking up your history here we notice (in your earlier writing to Telling for example):


First, you hinted linking the destruction of the Temple (by the Romans) to - your suggestion - to rejecting Jesus (the Jew). (I'm confident you might rewrite the destruction of First Temple to support your pretext trend. What ever suits you).


Second, you wrote against Talmud at least once. Again, as above, I've noticed Telling ignored you on this.


Third, you wanted to know about "palestinians" as Amalekites - now we understand you wished to abuse it. Though you are aware, Netanyahu is secular. And Telling explained to you about behaviour like Amalek - as an idea.


Fourth, you copied/pasted from not so wonderful "sources" and created a mish-mash of unrelated terms, ideologies for one purpose only: to bash Jews - your obsession.


Fifth, you carefully picked out only one part of a salad of studies (inclding Suffism and Hinduism) about Thullies and YOU are the one that chose out. And it is YOU who connected it to N. And via deception you cited a source [Phares] that is rather anti "palestinian" right wing which you claim to be against, yet happy to use it to vilify. (You're fooling no one with that neo Nazi veiled play on word Cabal).


Sixth, in your war against ADL, you rewrite as if it was about "defending Israel" historically, only so you can quote LaRouche fantasies and copy neo nazi poison exposed by ADL. We as conservatives criticize ADL on specifics but you attempt to discredit this anti hate organization because of your current intolerance.


'Seven, even on Hittler apologetic anti-Israel Candace Owens -- who proves you wrong, you attempted to switch it around to bash your favorite target.


Mason, mason and mason - blah-blah. You don't even realize how weird it sounds each time your repeat that word. Though I'm an American, I can tell you, Israelis overwhelmingly don't even know what it means. Unless they will be googling it up.


Arabs are stupid according to your - 'Arab-Nazi' "concerned" as a so called "canard." Since they were so "innocently" duped by outsiders to support Hitler and the nazis, then and now. While you know there were initiations by palestine Arabs, as now.


From a friend, I shortned Zionists to Z, shortned my Italian friend's name, omitted a line where he cursed LT and edited the F word:


From: Jo.....@gmail.com <jo.....@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2024. Subject: On that LT hate. You can forward this. To: D... <D..............@gmail.com'>

Dianne.

Here is my prepared reply. Feel free to forward it.

Conclusion from what we've read these days (including elevating LaRouch, well, because he said things that sounds like music to his ears, his talk and on main page):

1. Hitler was merely "supposedly" anti zionist - LT.

2. Chamberlain was not pro Hitler for his appeasement but a J org. that was fearful, oh yeah, they automatically "were" - says LT (main page and his talk page).

3. Eichmann was a Z. - says LT, for he wished to get rid of the Jews [first] before he happily received the updated order to exterminate them. LT even quoted his sentence as "proof."

4. This fkd up thinking let's one to believe that the Nazi beaters of Jews on German streets in tghe 1930s' who shouted go to Palestine were... Z.

5. The Arab palestinian leadership (and polled majority) were pro Hitler / sought Hitler out just because of the British Freemason or masons, and even today, it's "others"' (fill in the blank) fault ["he made me do it" - line. Here the 'shared interests' is out the window too].

6. LT: All Jewish organizations are not good. They were never. But a small fringe group Oct/7 atrocities justifiers - guided by a radical Muslim Brotherhood Palestinian Islam "professor" - they are the good ones?

7. Neo Nazi pro-palestine activity don't matter. Because they are also listed by ADL... Nor do their deviant anti-Zion rhetoric "conspiracy theories" for decades (including " [#OG] occupied government" or/and terming anti-Zionist-Soros as a Z, among other stupidity).

8. For the record: at the time of bashing Kaballah, LT admitted (to T.) he doesn't know (when asked what a -- related -- Biblical verse means), but already chose to link it to "politics" and "race." How he will try to link it thereafter, is worthless. It's this evidently discredited troubling trend.

9. What is 'intrinsic?' He proudly quoted clips by anti-Zionist-Kaballistic Neturei Karta but was happy to find two people with other opinions (one can only imagine what he googled to prove his claim) so he was quick to "conclude" what he WANTS to. As long as he can create a "CABAL." And he really thinks that pepple aren't aware of the weird-salad-terminology he uses, used by (Neo) Nazis.

10. The blender of hotchpotch, jumble unrelated terms ignores that Talmudists were non Zionist and even anti Zionists, not only the atheists leftists.

11. Just because Hitler didn't see it yet feasible to get rid of the Jews entirely but only to "cleanse" Europe (nothing to do with a 'Jewish National Home' as LT would want one to believe), and on the other hand, (his hated) Zionists wanted more Jews in their historic land... So? Therefore they must be "linked." (Identical too?). Get that warped "logic?"

Yet, at the time that Zionism is linked to world Jewry, (current) canard promoter LT is very much concerned exclusively about 'Arab Nazi.'

12. LT will exclusively conclude any ideology linked to Jews as negative by cherry picking a case as an "example." (And/or just copying messed up sentences).

LT won't do it to other religions. (Difference between LT and T is that T has been criticising those that link Hitler to his Christianity for a variety of reasons). 7.12.24

In other words: 'Hey, I'm not against all Jews. Only against most of them. I even have facts/truth/sources.'

Keep in touch D..

Jo....


Like my Italian friend said on LT, the definition of hate masked as non hate.

No one buys that you believe the "theories" you promote. The trouble with Goebbeles was that he wanted others to believe in garbage.

We don't want to think that your mind is (already) that corrupted to think that Chamberlin who blocked Jewish immigrants was a Z or that no. 1 anti Jewish "activist" A.H was pro Jewish National Home. Nevertheless, your hate passion leads you to type poison.

An Arab from Israel explained to me why the Palestinian-Muslims en masse raped on Oct 7, or as to why they filmed themselves committing certain crimes. He explained: "hate makes you doing things you will regret, but you can't control it." There is the answer as to "who will benefit," which you can ask on any murderer who doesn't think it through.

But you already know all that. And still doing it. For the same hate-passion reason aforementioned. You can't hold yourself from the slippery slope road you chose recently.

Sure, yesterday you were Jesus and today you're Jeremiah.

I'm holding my tongue from uttering what is on my lips...

You are here not only to spread lies but with a sadistic obsession to hurt.

You're on a roll. Get a life.

Breather at least.

PS There is also no point in getting so personal on such a childish way you just did with RobS. We are putting up with your sh#t but not that personal on/with childish stuff. Dont destroy CP.

  • This guy doesn't even realize how monstrous he is by dismissing the noble work of so many years of B'nai B'rith by fighting hatred.

LT's pseudo motto is, you have to find but a case or/and a (dubious) "source," in order to discredit an organization - which you have predestined to be dismissed because of your 'bigger plan' bigotry. And then to elevate the "found" "source" Of course LT refused to answer how many Jews could have been saved had it not been for the White Paper by the Anglos pressured by ALL Arab leadership - radicals or moderate. Note how he avoided all the facts, especially the sick joy of most Arabs in Palestine in 1942 as news about mass slaughter came about. The new and "improved" line is that not only were the nazi Arab leadership "duped" by Anglos (masonic or not fill in the blanks) when Voice of the Arabs editor joined Goebbeles in 1933 for example, but the Anglos of 1920s are still "duping" the Hamas and PIJ terrorists today to add notes to their favorite book after Koran which is Mein Kampf and why Arafat had it or why Nasser distributed among his soldiers - you see? This "inspiration" by Arab leadership 1950s-2024 is actually by the 1920s Anglos, even each and every swastika the Arabs draw today. Better yet, the Anglos of the 1920s are duping the ever so "innocent" Neo nazis today to join palestine protests because they are "told" to by "da jooz."

Have you noticed how he tried to discredit Psalms 137 because a smaller group cited it? After LT chose his devious road, he then went out shoppin' but couldn't find his despicable desired "finding," (yet). Remember his deceptive wording "cabal" play on an ancient study and how he tried to link it via a pathetic pick and choose and "connecting dots" he chose? Hey, not even the mason/mason/mason favorite blah-blah any more. Still, in search of dirt on Z. at least he came back from the flea market with so much joy dancing with his doggie bag. Yet when faced with reality of the complexity of Z the good vs the bad, he still did not back from his pre-designed lines which he "concluded" to be "intrinsic" to his satisfaction - before searching for dirt which of course he only always "stumbles upon accidentally."

July-Sep 2024.

On top of all that. This bigot who happens to be [Asian], adopted the user name "E. Goldstein" with his nazi-nazi-nazi fetish, a complete upside-down terminology and concepts word salad posting, using style and material garbage-collecting from laRouche and various neo Nazi and/or Holocaust denial pages before googling up who else might mention similar things so he can edit and conceal his original "sources." He selects out attributed (true or false) to those of masters of deception - a SS guy, recommending it as if "truthful," but only if it can defame Jews. (In his hotchpotch for loathing, he absurdly "connects" people, concepts and groups, apples and organges often even of opposites. His boring repeated language about true opposites often is: "two sides of the same coin"). Since 'nazi' is known as negative, he applies it only to Jews. This youngman, who, as was mentioned - barely turning drinking age in 2024/5, has managed to disseminate hatred what other neo Nazis did in years. Obsessive in using WW2 terminology but as slurs, especially if he knows someone had relatives in family as survivors. Among other things, he wrote Holocaust in plural[1], masking [2] his venom as merely against "zionists," of course.

What's baseness at his WW2 language, here comes a lowlife with exactly the same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion, and talks about victims blaming only the deceiving end of Nazi Germany. Racist Lying Troll also "decides" who is Jewish who is "not." He is excited only about those that go against other Jews. Dianne3000 (talk) 09:58, September 20, 2024 (EDT)

More from distorting lying trolling upside down language sick style

More from Lying Troll upside down language sick style:

Yes is No.
No is yes.
Racism is "anti racist".
Sharon is Hamaz.
Hamas is IDF.
Terror is human rights.
Trump is Harris.
Harris is Trump.
Good is bad.
Bad is good.
Nazis are "anti-nazi"...
Iran is now Israel.
US is North Korea.
Islam is Christianity.
Real original true Nazis - not their fault
- Their victims are so called "nazi".
Right is left.
Left is right.
Night is day...
Dianne3000 (talk) 09:23, September 20, 2024 (EDT)

It's unfortunate to see, but Senior Admin User:Conservative has transformed Conservapedia from an information source to a forum for Nazi propaganda over the past 2 and a half years. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:25, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
  • I hear Nazi-Nazi-fetish Lying Troll has been desperately sending frantic emails. Isn't he busy with the audience who cheer for every David Duke LaRouche speech?Dianne3000 (talk)
He evidently didn't read the bible:
  • Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety. - Pr 11:14
  • Plans are established by counsel; by wise guidance wage war. - Pr 20:18
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:05, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
Ps. 18:27 "...but bring low those whose eyes are haughty."Dianne3000 (talk)

Lying Troll - sockpuppeting on various forums, wikis

This[3] proves Lying Troll has been engaging in SP on various sites. It's no wonder, in his overall dishonesty. .Dianne3000 (talk) 18:10, September 18, 2024 (EDT)

This one - seems to be a Sock of LT or whom it communicated with.LaMarina (talk) 02:20, December 23, 2024 (EST)

LyingTroll of few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews

A few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews:

  • Tom Metzger (in the late '80 on a TV show).
  • Lyndon LaRouche.
  • David Irving (as shown on the movie Denial
  • Lying Troll. (elevating Nazis' propaganda as well).

Dianne3000 (talk) 01:07, September 22, 2024 (EDT)


  • So far: Anyone missing his nazi-nazi fetish (bio nazi, cristo nazi, whatever), upside down warped "two sides of the coin" BS and hurling Holocaust era concepts as racist slurs (before being blocked)? Or pretending to be one's "friend" one day against another member and vice versa the next?Dianne3000 (talk) 11:49, September 26, 2024 (EDT)

Jesus studied Kaballah [secular] zionists did not. Plus bigotry pattern here.

For a while, LT has been maliciously googling a combination of the Jewish religion and the word N. After "finding" weird "sources," he tried sneaky ways in editing pages along these 'dark' lines.

Before LT adopted ([4] Sep 8, 2024] - saved by Dianne) the whitewashing of Nazis by Abbas about so called "50 holocaust[sic]s plural...

Weeks after publicity of Holocaust denier and liar [5], with a long record [6] of rewrite of history - Mahmoud Abbas uttered the "Khazar" myth and was slammed all over. [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], even by anti-Israel liberal Haaretz[14]), LT asked me about it [15], so I referred him then to the RW piece. Now with his marathon against Da Jouz, he tried to promote it.

Remember, it is LT who tries to change the status quo of CP from what/how it has been for years.

(Recently , as part of his long terrible record of provoking members one against the other, he has been desperately emailing falsehood, of course. So I clicked on LT's the (radical liberal) Haaretz link.

Firstly, neither Conservative, nor RobSmith nor Dianne nor l, have ever supported the targeting of non terrorists by some of the "Hill boys" who are a losely bunch of youth. But again, like he did on the Oct 7 Arab Palestine massacres, quoting 'Haaretz' [16] of one case of panic after it was already attacked, and expanding what they didn't say, all in order to support his bigotry. This is LT's pattern of "sources." And he links people, ideologies, groups who are never connected too.

Secondly, it's different if one Jew mentions on another this N term. Just as blacks freely hurl that N word on other blacks. But not for this one with his young age and already with such a horrific history.

And in one single rant, LT has managed to link opposites, as usual. Despite the hard facts, that the Israeli intelligence are harsher on radicals among settlers (- who I'm against) and or violent among "hill boys" (- who I'm against), than on Arabs. These non-Arabs face real torture by Mossad, Shin Bet interrogators. (Examples among many:[17], [18]). Though much of "settler violence" is rather provoked by so called "human rights activists." [19]

Someone told him in a dream that his laughable "monograms" are "not" childish. 😂.

One would ask why LT "deserves" attention, the answer is, that to destroy, even a little -- nobody --kid could do horrific damage.

But as the holy Talmud said, whoever persecutes the Jewish people, ascends...for a while, till he drops and falls (in shame). Telling (talk) 08:21, September 22, 2024 (EDT)

Call me an eternal optimist, but I see an opportunity here for User:LT to show some leadership. He could step up and apologize to the community for abusing editors on a matter he knows little about, and corrupted by media accounts. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 05:44, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
  • Cheers RobS. But not if his "apology" is as "sincere" as weeks ago injecting WW2 terms as slurs ONLY to hurt people. Besides, he has already done do much damage with his poisonous nazi nazi fetish and warped "history" spamming, upside down terminology.Dianne3000 (talk) 05:54, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
Here precisely is the problem: We have editors who know and understand ZERO about the so-called 'Israel-Palestinian dispute' or the 'Ukraine-Russia conflict', they try to educate themselves by popular media accounts, and spend months and months harassing other editors with their newly founded 'wisdom' and 'expertise'. They are essentially trolls, and do not understand why Conservapedia was founded. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:34, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
Speaking of misinformation. LyingTrolls repeated links --as pointed out by Telling-- on the M.E. conflict are either Iranian or Qatari linked, or of the radical left.

Dianne3000 (talk) 11:31, September 22, 2024 (EDT)

AlJazeera/MiddleEastEye/TheNewArab are Qatar linked; any ".ir" and pressTV al-medayeen or Mehr among many others are Iranian (Islamic Fascist Republic influences are at Grayzone too, as even liberal WaPo exposed, hence, certainly any M.E. "data" there isn't reliable); any ".tr" and TRT or Anadolu is Turkey's. Next, he will pick an Islamist Turkey's government linked site...as "source."

In regards to what Rob said, Proverbs: "He that covereth his transgressions shall not prosper; but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall obtain mercy." [20]. Emphasis on forsaketh.Telling (talk) 16:36, September 26, 2024 (EDT)

Amen. Everything the New Testament says is said in the Old Testament. There is no new thing under the sun. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:37, September 26, 2024 (EDT)

Nazi fetish still hurling slurs

LT still used K. As a slur (via email like Sep 29 and Sep 30), knowing fully well my family history and grandparents linked to Holocaust survivors.

The following is copied from September 20 entry on RobS talk page: Dianne3000 (talk)•

As established. Of course Lying Troll is routinely using WW2 terms as a slur and swearing. BTW, nazi fetish LT, Lying Troll has mentioned the word kapo 4 or five times these days. Some were good some where bad (that is an internal Jewish reckoning. There were many Jews who converted to Christianity who betrayed the Jewish people by telling on them and inciting the government), but not for a nazi Nazi-fetish-LT terrible boy) but all were under the Nazi threat. But what's baseness is, here comes a lowlife with exactly the same bigotry that has set the core hatred in motion, and talks about victims. Who says that all relatives of my grandparents were murdered just in a camp where EVERY EMPLOYEE was under the nazi boot and not by fanatical bigots like LT? But just as Lying Troll cast Sulzberger as "zionist," he is all about hurting people. Not about facts or history.Dianne3000 (talk) 09:12, September 20, 2024 (EDT)

(Added July 17, 2025:
Vera Alexander testified in Eichmann trial session 71 that most kapos were good and tried their best to limit.Dianne3000 (talk) 18:30, July 17, 2025 (EDT))

I am in agreement. The hurling of slurs at other users (for example, "a useful idiot of an atheist website") has a long and destructive history in Conservapedia. I have been trying to reform the process for more than a dozen years, to no avail.
I am trying to negotiate to allow LT to be unblocked so that he can apologize and attempt to mitigate some of the damage he's done to the community. But as of now, he apparently wants to continue following the User:Conservative/Rationalwiki school of trolling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:38, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
T. and you have been very patient when he embarked in July 2024 with his sick upside-down language, including weird tantrum like obsession in using the word "nazi" always when it's the contrary. Who convinced him that if he repeats his garbage again and again he won't lose more respect? Of course he was never about facts, truth, history or even being honest.Dianne3000 (talk) 17:05, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
He learned that from Senior Admin User:Conservative: When called out on improper conduct and incivility, he doubles down on malicious trolling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:55, September 30, 2024 (EDT)

He blames the Jews for Hitler

Lying Troll still blames[21] the Jews for Hitler, and he is the one using the nazi term on others. We also remember him promoting a self declared fascist as a "source." (Besides, as T. pointed out above [22] his pseudo references/sources how he misuses, deceives.Dianne3000 (talk) 20:16, September 30, 2024 (EDT)

Some months ago I attempted to do a poll on building acceptable community standards, but due to the incessant trolling by a Senior Admin, the whole thing degenerated into a series of more personal attacks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There


  • Just for the record, I didn't know 'oriental' is offensive to some before a forwarded email. (And of course, needless to say, I have no intolerance to any 'race'). Asian is important in the context of an Asian adopting David Duke rants Or/and as T. pointed out copying Holocaust deniar the Arab Issa Nakhle linked site garbage. And With his upside-down terminology or/and word salad.


And about his dirty [23] language on me. Not all Jews look like the nazi cartoons he seems to like. Some even look like "aryans".Dianne3000 (talk) 11:21, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

Hi, Rob. Long time no see.

The oldest trick in the book is to commit a crime, and then blame someone else for it. This gives the criminal three advantages:

  1. They get the pleasure of blaming someone else, while looking good themselves.
  2. They get away with the crime.
  3. They get to hurt another person.

Good people don't do this. It's a violation of the Judeo-Christian tradition. (Of course, you already know this ;-) --Ed Poor Talk 11:29, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

  • God bless you Ed Poor.

RobS is actually againt this LT behavior. It's LT who blames Jews for Hitler, not RobS. This is about LT, he just pasted it all from his talk page on to here.Dianne3000 (talk) 11:38, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks Dianne. This confusion arises because Andy allows User:Conservative to abuse his user talk page, so discussions and comments get moved and posted elsewhere. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 05:16, October 6, 2024 (EDT)

Un"Holy" hate

On top of using Holocaust related terms only as slurs and only on those of the nation - victim of it, he invoked 'Judas' on a Christian - Oct 1, 2024.Dianne3000 (talk) 12:42, October 1, 2024 (EDT)

King Solomon

You like studying and quoting King Solomon:

“ A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. ”

—Pr. 13:22

How do you think the Rothschilds got all their money? or do you deny the truth of God's word? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:52, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

Obsessed against Jewish victims

Of course Lying Troll is obsessed AGAINST Nazi victims.

Rothschild...

Nazi feature film: Antisemitic and anti-British propaganda.

Film | Digitized | Accession Number: 1994.121.1 | RG Number: RG-60.1201 | Film ID: 982

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1001972

But in neo nazi style of "death to the juice", (we didn't say Jews...) he poses as "anti nazi"...

It's also why he demonizes the Star of David, exactly becauae the Nazis forced their victims to wear it .Dianne3000 (talk) 19:53, October 15, 2024 (EDT)

Sneaky misrepresenting

Misrepresenting Hydrich. So, when the official German policy was not yet total annihilation, but expulsion, Hydrich liked the idea of, at least, Jews not assimilating with Germans. [In other words, get away, don't come near us]. What he basically said was, he rejects 'assimilationists.' The fact, he wrapped it in a cosmetic way, does not make him different from Goebbels and from what he really was. Of course sneaky deceitful LT knows all that.Dianne3000 (talk) 01:47, May 19, 2025 (EDT)

LyingTroll of few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to "help" the Jews

A few human beings who promote that Hitler wanted to supposedly "help" the Jews:

  • Tom Metzger (in the late '80 on a TV show).
  • Lyndon LaRouche.
  • David Irving (as quoted in film, Denial.
  • Lying Troll. (elevating Nazis' propaganda as well).Dianne3000 (talk) 22:46, October 5, 2024 (EDT)

Gentle reminder

Remember what you signed on to (before someone unilaterally changed the language without prior discussion or consent of the members):

We, the undersigned editors, at the CP Civility Association pledge to work cooperatively with everyone here in good faith...

Topic ban

Notice: You have been topic banned from editing mainspace and talk pages related to Jews/Israel/Zionism/Nazism for a duration of 6 months, effective immediately. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:10, October 1, 2024 (EDT)

Notice: Your Topic banning has been extended 1 month to 7 months for violation of the Topic ban. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:09, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

Long record of abuse

See this (before Karajou 'corrected' it) example.Dianne3000 (talk) 13:19, October 11, 2024 (EDT)

From that link we see User:LT lists the following as "Real news":
  • Commentary Archives - The Western Journal
  • The Epoch Times - Truth and Tradition
  • Breitbart News Network
  • The Daily Caller
  • The Washington Free Beacon
  • The Gateway Pundit
What User:LT doesn't realize is he is making it easy for critics to claim he gets his antisemitic views from those sources. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:04, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
  • Free Beacon https://freebeacon.com/ is actually great. Breitbart is also OK. However, since then, he changed sources and since July 2024 has immersed himself in Nazi or its style, over and over and over again: garbage sites, before he searches their material anywhere else finding parts of it, so he can cover his dirty tracks. Pathetic Dianne3000 (talk)
He should have just researched what any of those sources say about LaRouche before his [LT's] conversion from the conservative movement. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:13, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
That too. As of now, he has but one bigoted obsession. And chronically sick at that.Dianne3000 (talk) 20:17, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
It's an old story but bears repeating (he learned it is acceptable in Conservapedia from User:Conservative): They begin with a conclusion, then cherry pick Google results to confirm their views (as if they did some real research), paying ZERO attention to who the source is. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:13, October 15, 2024 (EDT)
And for all the trash talk of the MSM, their daily thoughts and actions are guided by the MSM. It's like the both of them are living on the Democrat plantation - afraid to think for themselves or challenge the "conventional wisdom". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:29, October 15, 2024 (EDT)

LyingTroll's garbage style: "Hitler was onto something "

[24] 'Hitler was onto something'. Antisemite harasses customers at kosher restaurant in Brooklyn. 10.31.24 reminds LyingTroll's "he was onto something" and "two sides of the same coin" sick warped mind and language. Dianne3000 (talk) 17:54, October 31, 2024 (EDT)

Why was LyingTroll upset about this?

Regarding this https://archive.ph/WBR3S [25] Didn't he flaunt his behaviour? BTW it does not specify or mention a name. So it could mean others too. Dianne3000 (talk) 20:29, November 25, 2024 (EST)

Survivor from Arab-Nazi 1941 pogrom, murdered by "palestinian" Arabs Oct 7

R. I. P. Shlomo.

 
Shlomo Mansour: Arab-Nazi Farhud survivor, murdered by "Palestine" Hamas, on Oct 7

.

(Farhoud).Telling (talk) 01:06, February 12, 2025 (EST)

Mark Levin on Hegel's synthesis-antithesis

[26]

No "nazi" w/o anti Jew

Not only are you generalizing all Jews but you ironically use contradiction. Your Arab "semite" leader partially convinced the real Nazis -who you imply to place above Jews- to use the term anti-Jew and not anti Semite.LaMarina (talk) 17:16, July 17, 2025 (EDT)

Yes, and I would caution LT by saying that it is one thing to criticize Bibi Netanyahu and the Netanyahu administration, it's another thing to go off on these ideological rants. And I would even caution against incorporating those ideological rants in criticism of Netanyahu. RobSZelensky Must Go!
Hello there, Ro-Balaam Smith! I know I should be staying out of these conversations, but since you commented here "first," I would just like to say that in light of all you've wronged against me in the past few years, I would like to take a moment first and foremost in accordance with the Christian spirit to bless you and wish good upon your life. Hope you are making it through, able to economically survive, and have retained more mental sanity than I have. How was your Thanksgiving last year? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 15:07, July 18, 2025 (EDT)
I'm fine, thanks for asking.
Yes, these are hard times and trying on men's souls. But there is no reason to join in in the insanity. I guess that's what life is all about - keeping your bearings straight. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:12, July 18, 2025 (EDT)

Reason for blocking

5 strikes after warning, lied to Andy he'll stick to Bible stuff - All know he's about 1 obsession, deceitfully using holy books for it, even created a page solely for that before Andy deleted. Still used SS nazism as slurs Quite a few members want him permabanned. So now editwar w/ 2 members again? Hate+disruption. Maybe he needs another year to cure from obsessed hate virus and behaveTelling (talk)

Reason for re-blocking

Despite complaints, LT disingenuously continued to email his hate and lies link [what other members referred to as upside-down terminology and rewriting history, facts] under the guise of "Bible study."Telling (talk) 09:05, September 25, 2025 (EDT)

ahh, so he's an idiot. I still don't think he's beyond rehabilitation. Most of us were idiots when we were young. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:29, September 25, 2025 (EDT)
Now if you were born in 1969 as Grok says, you have no excuse for proving over and over again daily what an idiot you are. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:36, September 25, 2025 (EDT)
I agree totally for this block. It's the gross deception: calling people to a Nazi type hatred masquerading as "Bible study" on a Bible promoting site. He was warned in 2024 not to email to certain peple. Yet he repeatedly engages in incivility.

Imagine a KKK emailing a church group calling to a conference under the title "Bible atudy."Dianne3000 (talk) 13:45, September 26, 2025 (EDT)

I didn't even read it, but I'll take your word for what it says.
As a boomer, I feel we have failed passing on to our children what Nazism & Fascism really is, turning it instead into just an insult. This raises the danger of it reappearing, as people really don't know what it is. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:00, September 26, 2025 (EDT)
My last edit reverting someone's content on this page was an accidental mistake. Conservative (talk) 17:08, September 26, 2025 (EDT)

Other matters unrelated to this user specifically

Ok, thank you. Mark this moment - the narcissist User:Conservative admitted to a mistake.
Are you going to clean up the rest of your mistaken information pollution you dumped into Conservapedia?

User:Conservative just added Heil Hitler to his user page

User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page. [27] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.User:LT was just blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:12, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Now he's changed the Nazi slogan to "Ukrainian nationalist". [28] This is typical of the duplicity he engages in.

He was told years ago about the Ukrainian Nazi salute. [29] For this reason he's been Topic banned from international politics. I'd like to see him try tearing up the neo-Nazi Ukrainian nationalist page. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:32, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

NYT: Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?

RobSRecovering Republican 11:21, December 18, 2025 (EST)

Why is it that many American conservatives don't believe in the concept of hate crimes?
Summary: "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 11:44, December 18, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page

 
Ukrainian nationalists welcome Nazis, 1941.
Above in the Latin alphabet: Heil Hitler! Below in the Cyrillic alphabet the salute in the collaborationist UPA: Glory to the Heroes! - Slave Ukraini!

User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page. [30] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.User:LT was just blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.

He was told years ago about the Ukrainian Nationalist salute. [31] For this reason he's been Topic banned from international politics. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Untrue. Conservative (talk) 18:41, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
It is true. [32] User:LT was blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.
Need the timeline? RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:48, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
User:Conservative and I personally discussed this exact terminology more than 3 years ago, both on the wiki and on the phone. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
Watch what happens when the NATO-backed soldier gives the official Nazi greeting, "Slava Ukraine" (Heil Hitler). RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:49, October 5, 2025 (EDT)

Andy, this just appeared on my autofeed on my phone: A moment with ... Andrew Schlafly '81, on 'Conservapedia' paw.princeton.edu Andy Schlafly: "Conservatism is an approach that adheres to original intent in interpreting older documents..."

To say the documented original intent of Russian, Ukrainian, and other Eastern European societies about the original meaning and current usage of Slava Ukraine in schools, academia, cultures and current usage is "far fetched" makes one sound like a liberal Supreme Court Justice.

Here's the thing about original intent: to understand original intent, one must unlearn many inbuilt biases and re-definitions accumulated over time. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:26, November 21, 2025 (EST)

 
August 16, 2018.
“ In the mythology of Ukraine, along with the myths about the "great past", there are legends aimed at distorting the truth about the shameful pages of the formation of the ukronacist ideology. A vivid example of this is the desire to hide and whitewash the Nazi essence of the slogan "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!" ”

—Myths about the origin of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. Myth 9. "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!", October 8, 2018,

Link to Ukrainian Nationalist directly. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:40, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
Note: None of this is new to User:Conservative. It was presented to him in detail in the spring 2022, where he changed his mind and admitted to the fact that Nazis served under Zelensky. His actions have been malicious, targeting specific users with offensive postings, and deserve the same treatment User:LT got.
Is the term "Slava Ukraini" a Nazi phrase or is it anti-semitic? Give a summary statement.: "No, the term "Slava Ukraini" ("Glory to Ukraine") is not a Nazi phrase, nor is it anti-Semitic. It is a longstanding Ukrainian patriotic salute with roots in the 19th–early 20th century national movement, predating fascism and Nazism... Claims labeling it as inherently Nazi largely stem from Soviet-era and modern Russian propaganda aimed at discrediting Ukrainian nationalism and sovereignty." Conservative (talk) 14:41, December 18, 2025 (EST)

I have Topic banned User:Conservative in the area of international affairs for 6 months for repeated violations and trolling. It is his second offense. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:39, September 27, 2025 (EDT)

Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?

[33]

Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobSRecovering Republican 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)

Anti-Semitism in Conservapedia

Andy, why do you allow User:Conservative to deface the American flag?

An extra 50,000–300,000 Russian casualties (killed and wounded combined) per year if User: Conservative does conversion rate optimization for Ukraine's drone fundraising websites

Question: Will RobSmith keep pestering User: Conservative and gossiping about him? If so, what are the likely consequences?

ChatGPT and Grok indicate:

Summary: "If major Ukraine-focused fundraising platforms improved their conversion rate optimization at scale, realistic estimates suggest an extra ~$80–$430 million in donations per year could be generated. At typical frontline drone costs (≈ $500 per unit), that additional funding could translate into roughly 160,000 to 860,000 extra low-cost drones per year, assuming funds were directed primarily toward drone procurement."

Grok said regarding: "ChatGPT said: "If major Ukraine-focused fundraising platforms improved their conversion rate optimization at scale, realistic estimates suggest an extra ~$80–$430 million in donations per year could be generated. At typical frontline drone costs (≈ $500 per unit), that additional funding could translate into roughly 160,000 to 860,000 extra low-cost drones per year, assuming funds were directed primarily toward drone procurement." Do you concur?"

Summary statement: "Based on public data from Ukrainian military reports, Western analyses, and drone unit statistics as of late 2025, the additional 250,000–750,000 low-cost FPV drones could realistically cause an estimated 50,000–300,000 Russian casualties (killed and wounded combined) per year, assuming typical deployment patterns, hit rates (20–50% success per drone due to electronic warfare and other factors), and average effectiveness (0.2–0.4 casualties per drone, often targeting infantry or small vehicles with 1–2 impacts per successful strike).

This range accounts for variability: lower-end assumes conservative hit rates and partial allocation to non-lethal roles (e.g., reconnaissance); higher-end reflects optimized use in high-intensity sectors like Pokrovsk or Donetsk, where elite units like the "Birds of Magyar" have achieved ~0.4–0.5 casualties per drone in monthly stats. Not all drones would directly cause casualties—some fail, are jammed, or support indirect operations—but scaled production and tech improvements (e.g., AI guidance boosting success to 70–80% in some cases) amplify impact.

In context, drones already account for 60–80% of Russian frontline losses (per RUSI reports and Ukrainian claims), with daily Russian casualties averaging ~1,200 (cumulative ~1.2 million since 2022 per Ukrainian General Staff). Extra drones could meaningfully shift battlefield dynamics, potentially saving Ukrainian lives by reducing close-quarters engagements." Conservative (talk) 04:46, December 22, 2025 (EST).

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