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Elon Musk backs Congressman Massie after $2.4 trillion deficit fight triggers Trump feud

Looks like the split in the MAGA movement (begun by User:Conservative shilling for Biden regime foreign policy) is widening. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:50, July 2, 2025 (EDT)

Michael Yon: Zionist (sic) Forces may close Strait of Hormuz

And Blame on Iran. RobSZelensky Must Go! 01:57, July 3, 2025 (EDT)

The New York Times claimed that Michael Yon targeted the [left wing] Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, quoting him as saying that "they’re coming across the border and it’s being funded with Jewish (sic) money.” (Bensinger, Ken (March 20, 2024). "Chasing Clicks in the Jungle: Right-Wing Influencers Descend on the Darién Gap". New York Times.)LaMarina (talk) 00:06, July 6, 2025 (EDT)
Thanx. I'll have to check it out. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:53, July 6, 2025 (EDT)
I placed the link here for proper vetting. In the link, he refuses to go on Joe Rogan's show cause Rogan smokes dope on air, etc. RobSZelensky Must Go! 07:04, July 7, 2025 (EDT)
Know them by their language, such as "zionist forces", says it all, his approach to that country. Telling (talk) 17:38, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
The Israeli regime is an enemy of the American people. Just like the Ukrainian regime and the Taiwanese regime.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:22, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
"Enemy of the people" explains the failed "deep state" terminology by some.LaMarina (talk) 11:48, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
Not sure why anyone would ignore that Trump was always against annihilating attempts by Islamic nukes. Hey, we gotta listen to both sides...LOLTelling (talk) 11:58, July 9, 2025 (EDT)

Islamic Republic: "top secret" LOL

Mossad to Tehran: We already know your ‘secret’ war commander. “We know exactly who he is and know him well. Unfortunately, such basic information is hidden from the Iranian people. Please send us your guesses about his name.”. OK.LaMarina (talk) 17:08, July 3, 2025 (EDT)

Iran made preparations to mine the Strait of Hormuz

Reuters: Exclusive: Iran made preparations to mine the Strait of Hormuz, US sources say. "Summary:
Mines loaded last month, raising fears of blockade. Mining would have severely harmed global commerce. U.S. has not ruled out possibility that loading the mines was a ruse"LaMarina (talk) 23:53, July 5, 2025 (EDT)

Happy 249th our beloved great USA

https://america250.org/

God Bless The USA.Telling (talk) 11:05, July 4, 2025 (EDT)

Lindsey Graham

President Trump praised Lindsey Graham during the BBB signing today. Called him a good man, even after the Ukraine incident. I wanted to throw up, but then again I didn't want to cause a scene at my grandmother's house. That said if this doesn't demonstrate how far Trump has fallen, I don't know what else could.

If this country makes it to 2028, we'll be in desperate need of an outsider candidate. J.D. Vance's actions following the Trump-Musk breakup demonstrate that he may not have the strength to resist the temptation to "go neocon" once in office. And Marco Rubio is a straight up Trojan Horse, if he were elected President he would immediately drop his ongoing act and be the second coming of George W. Bush.

God Save America.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:09, July 4, 2025 (EDT)

South Carolina is among the top recipients of defense spending for military personnel of all states. A GOP president would probably say this about any Republican senator from SC to address military voters and their families. (When talking about "defense cuts" for weapons programs and contractors, it still scares the bejeezus out of uniformed military voters and their families). RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:02, July 5, 2025 (EDT)

Trump-Putin and Trump-Zelensky phone calls

This is a prime example of misreporting by telling only half the story.

What happened? Putin relayed an ultimatum via Trump to Zelensky: American aid in exchange for a compromise on the memorandum presented by Moscow at the Istanbul 2.0 peace negotiations.

Russian demands: Russia would consider ending the war through negotiations only if Ukraine ends martial law and holds presidential elections. Trump is said to have relayed this message to Zelensky. Currently, Ukrainian law prevents elections while martial law is in effect. That law is up for renewal in about 10 days. So, if Ukraine does not renew martial law, it might signal a shift toward the proposed deal. However, Zelensky has shown no willingness to end martial law or hold elections, having resisted this for years. Reportedly, Trump may have offered more Patriot missiles as a temporary measure, contingent on Ukraine accepting the Russian demands — not as a long-term commitment.

How is the story being misreported? MSM reports are rife with stories alleging another Trump flip-flop, where weapons transfers were cancelled less than a week ago, to Trump suddenly finding sympathy for the Ukrainian neo-Nazi regime. RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:15, July 5, 2025 (EDT)

L. Todd Wood: Ukrainian Nationalists Will Not Let Zelenskiy Make Peace, Even If He Wanted To. [1]

Ukrainian Nazis have increased their grip on the country over the past three years - they aren't the ones who have been doing the dying. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:27, July 6, 2025 (EDT)

Axios July 2025.PNG

If there’s any hint of truth to such reports, then Trump’s “50-day notice” would seem to line up with Putin’s timeline, given that the conversation happened days ago, and thus Putin’s “60-day plan” would fall almost precisely on Trump’s deadline.

The basic interpretation of that could be that Trump is giving Russia two months to capture whatever territory it claims belongs to it, then “the hammer” will come down.

Israel somehow keeps killing exactly ‘81’ Gazans: magic number proves Gaza "health" casualties are fake. Pallyweid

The magic number that proves the Gaza casualties are fake. Why does Israel keep killing 81 people in 24 hours, specifically? Obviously it’s not.[2] 😂 Telling (talk) 10:30, July 6, 2025 (EDT)

Great find by D.G. Thank you.LaMarina (talk) 08:01, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
"Egypt has officially informed the US and Israel of its 'absolute refusal' to establish a humanitarian city in Rafah, saying that such a move threatens the terms of the 1979 Camp David Accords, which prohibits any action that would undermine the agreed-upon security arrangements in the border areas.
Cairo warned of the consequences of continuing such actions, which 'could prompt a reassessment of certain regional arrangements'. It also made clear that it will not remain silent in the face of attempts to alter the existing situation — whether politically or in terms of security. All scenarios are on the table, including those that go beyond the diplomatic path."
Sheesh. What do you suppose "All scenarios are on the table, including those that go beyond the diplomatic path" means? RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:39, July 16, 2025 (EDT)

Epstein update

  • Pam Bondi: the Epstein client list is sitting on my desk. [3]
  • FBI/DOJ: there is no Epstein client list. [4]

Note: between the two incidents listed above, the prime witness Virginia Giuffre, age 41, died under mysterious circumstances. RobSZelensky Must Go!

This is embarrassing. Trump needs to fix this very quickly, or it will become a permanent black mark on his legacy. As for Bondi, she needs to resign or be fired. She bungled this big time and is no longer fit to serve as Attorney General. And if Patel and Bongino can't bother to give us an explanation as why there is no list, they need to go as well.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:58, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
There's a theory circulating that the FBI/DOJ are lying, the client list does exist but someone blocked it from being released. That someone being Donald Trump himself. There are several explanations for this decision, the most interesting one being that Trump has decided to use the client list to blackmail the guilty parties into doing his bidding. In other words, he is the new Epstein.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:04, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
Assuming this version of the story is the truth, here is an excellent rebuttal by Conservative Treehouse commenter "rharkonen113":
"Globalist trash needs to be permanently discredited and removed from positions of influence so they cannot continue. Temporarily blackmailing them to slightly reduce effectiveness for awhile is weak. Wiping out their institutions through discrediting is lasting winning. Its like instead of imprisoning criminals, you blackmail them to (sort of) do what you want while you are around. How effective is that? What would the world be like if that was the approach to crime? Criminals left free are criminals free to be criminals. This is dumbing down and how you end up a RINO. The logic and compromise of the RINO. [...] The world would be a better place in countless obvious and subtle ways if its Bill Gates and Bill Clintons were unambiguously revealed and punished and unable to act within the world."--Geopolitician (talk) 23:10, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
And allow me to add to that rebuttal. It seems to me that Trump has become so drunk on power that he no longer wishes to dismantle the Deep State, but rather to become its undisputed leader. Like Gorbachev before him, he wants to preserve the Evil Empire by rooting out incompetence and corruption while also implementing superficial reforms. If history has anything to say about that, then his new agenda is doomed to fail. And the consequences of that failure will bring us to the brink of a Second Civil War.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:16, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

Trump threatens BRICS nations with 10% tariffs

(a) the tariffs won't last beyond 3 years;

(b) this fits with BRICS timetables;

(c) this is EXACTLY the kind of economic blackmail by the US that the BRICS nations were formed to resist.

US War Against BRICS Kicks Into Overdrive I Alex Krainer Interview

India to Stand Tall Against Trump Tariffs.

The BRICS lose their clout, July 2025. Conservative (talk) 13:35, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
yah, according to the neocon globalist FT. Just wait til the "bone crushing" 500% sanctions against India & BRICS from the Lady Lindsey bill are levied (Monday?). There will be no turning back from the rush to join BRICS because of America's weaponization of the dollar. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:42, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
Trump says he likes to take sanctions off soon after he puts them on. Like after the country cries uncle and starts behaving in a civilized manner. And a weakened Russia is not doing well now (Russian economy: Cracks are appearing in the Russian economy, Unherd, July 2025. Russian military: Russia Starts Sending GRANDPAS to the Front Lines, July 2025.). Conservative (talk) 13:49, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
Even you buddies at the Trump-hating, neocon globalist Atlantic have admitted weaponizing the dollar has failed and will be costly.
How America Wasted Its Most Powerful Economic Weapon, By Edward Fishman, The Atlantic, February 24, 2025.
But forget this discussion. A policy discussion is waaay over your head. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:53, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
P.S. Not interested in your CIA claptrap. If you continue spamming redundant arguments to multiple talk pages, they will be removed, per Conservapedia:Guidelines#Inappropriate.2Ftrolling_behavior. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:02, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Inside Mossad’s Spy Network in Iran

"The most alarming revelation uncovered during Iran’s sweeping search for spy networks—networks that enabled “Israel” to assassinate a significant number of its senior officials and scientists—was the extent of foreign involvement, particularly the presence of Hindu Indians operating alongside Iranian collaborators." - www.alestiklal.net

RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:04, July 7, 2025 (EDT)

Curious. Surprised you got to this Islamic site "estiklal", who adds quotation marks on Israel? Who quoted them?LaMarina (talk) 09:00, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

When Iran announced it "captured spies" don't get fooled

There are complex ways how to make Iran or Hamas believe one is a "mossad agent"...LaMarina (talk) 09:00, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

LOL. It's the easiest way to get a terrorist eliminated. Telling (talk) 17:34, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
The problem with the Fifth Column in Iran, as with the Hezbollah pager attack & Operation Spiderweb, while these operations were years in the planning, they can only be pulled off once. Ultimately, they can also only be pulled off in an "open society" (unlike a "closed society" like North Korea or the former Soviet Union). What we learned is both Russia & Iran are "open societies". RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:18, July 11, 2025 (EDT)

BS Alert

Ratcliffe & Trump preparing the ol' chemical weapons false flag in Ukraine. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:34, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

More BS: "Trump to send defense weapons to Ukraine"
Yah, 10 Patriot missiles, cause that's all that's left in the stockpile. They will be gone in one hour.
Pure psyop. Pure propaganda. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:37, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
Unbelievable, except not really. Ratcliffe has always been Deep State, and Trump himself appears to be a new convert. Speaking of Ratcliffe, surely he knows the true story behind the COVID pandemic. Still think it was China who unleashed it?--Geopolitician (talk) 23:20, July 8, 2025 (EDT)
Margo Cleveland is the only journalist still on this story:
EXCLUSIVE: Henchmen Behind Brennan’s Fake Russia Collusion Assessment Are Still At The CIA. Ratcliffe has been at the CIA for half a year to clean em out. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:42, July 10, 2025 (EDT)

Unbreakable!

Inside a bomb shelter on June 17, 2025, as the Islamic fascist Republic flooded Israeli residents with missiles... Video LaMarina (talk) 17:18, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

Beautiful. These are Christian zionists with Israelis in shelter...Telling (talk) 17:30, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

"There needs to be blood": Democrats' voters tell them to "get shot" in Trump resistance push

"There needs to be blood": Democrats' voters tell them to "get shot" in Trump resistance push. [5]. Oh well.Telling (talk) 17:32, July 8, 2025 (EDT)

Reminds me of the Maidan coup. John McCain told Oleh Tyahnybok they needed more than just 10 or 12 dead among the protestors to bring about regime change. So the Nazis got up on the roof and started whacking out protestors. And the globalist media, of course, did their part and blamed the government.
They are actually reading from the same CIA/NED color revolution playbook. RobSZelensky Must Go!
Please die, it's great for us! In a conversation with a “pro-Palestine” individual that I hope one day soon will be available for the whole world to see, the person said the quiet part out loud: dead & maimed Palestinians in Gaza are excellent content on social media to help delegitimize Israel and make this cause popular.LaMarina (talk) 02:01, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
The same reason, Hamas is very comfortable with increased deaths.Telling (talk) 12:03, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
There needs to be blood? Red states and Republicans have more gun ownership. LOL! Democrats are outgunned. LOL! Given all the stabbings in the UK, which has tight gun laws, maybe the Democrats plan on bringing in British ninja mercenaries! Conservative (talk) 12:07, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
That's true.LaMarina (talk)
Careful, that psychotic warmonger wants to see bloodshed between red states and blue states. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:44, July 10, 2025 (EDT)

Says the guy who will not condemn the 4 wars that the imperialist Putin is engaged in (1 in Ukraine and 3 in Africa). Conservative (talk) 13:33, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Islamic Republic's Threatening on Strait of Hormuz, 2011, 2019 - historic strategy of threatening the world

2011:

Iran threaten to stop oil exports in response to proposed sanctions. France 24 News. December 27, 2011. Iran, the world's fifth largest crude oil exporter, threatened on Tuesday to stop the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz as foreign sanctions were looming in the wake of a damning UN report about Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

Iran threatens to block Strait of Hormuz oil route - BBC News. 28 December 2011.

2019:

Australia Joins U.S.-Led Maritime Force Protecting Persian Gulf Shipping. August 22, 2019. The U.S. blames Iran for attacks against international shipping in and around the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow conduit that separates the Persian Gulf from the Gulf of Oman through which much of the world's supply of oil passes. LaMarina (talk) 01:58, July 9, 2025 (EDT)

This is a later phase of escalation that hasn't happened yet. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:02, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
Islamic Republic had threatened the world this time around again, but did not go through, yet.LaMarina (talk) 11:50, July 9, 2025 (EDT)

It gets worse and worse.

Newsweek: Donald Trump Threatened Putin and Xi He Would Bomb Moscow, Beijing --Geopolitician (talk) 12:41, July 9, 2025 (EDT)

Yep. Now we're seeing Trump the warmonger. The leaked audio is a window into an empire unraveling. RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:47, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
This audio was in 2024 before he was elected?LaMarina (talk) 15:32, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
Yah. It apparently was to a group of fundraisers. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:46, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
Thanks RobS. So the title of this section composed is NOT accurate, as usual. Hyperbolic and fake ("enemy" and all). Just as he messed with a news headline, altered it, during Rising LionLaMarina (talk)
IMO, The Russia hoax forced President Trump into making a lot of stupid statements to deny collusion with Russia. While these statements likely won't have any direct impact on Trump's relations with Putin, they still are damaging in the overall sense that nobody believes anything Trump says anymore. As to Xi, word is he is on his way out. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:24, July 10, 2025 (EDT)

Why is XI on his way out? Is it the real estate crisis in China, the high youth unemployment in China and the many months of deflation in China?

"China has experienced 33 consecutive months of producer price deflation, meaning factory-gate prices have been falling year-on-year for over two and a half years. This is the longest streak of producer price deflation in nearly two years, with the latest data showing a 3.6% decline in June. Consumer prices have also recently seen a decline, with a fourth consecutive month of falling prices in May."[6] Conservative (talk) 13:39, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Iran/Hezbollah: From sex crimes to drugs: more dirty money

Iran and Hezbollah implicated in Irish cocaine trafficking case. Jul 6, 2025[7]. More:

Duquesne Scholarship Collection. Hezbollah Operations in the Tri-Border Area of South America. by N Kleck · 2011 — ... Latin America and the Caribbean for sexual and labor exploitation. Women and children are trafficked internationally for forced prostitution and sex tourism... PDF /

How Hezbollah raises funds in West Africa 12 Oct 2024 — The Shiite movement is able to raise funds from the large Lebanese community in Côte d'Ivoire and Guinea, and relies on an organized crime.. / How Hezbollah Fundraises Through Crime. 2 Jul 2024. /

Hezbollah's Networks in Latin America. 12 Mar 2025. — Several countries in the region—including Argentina, Colombia, Honduras, and Paraguay—have formally designated Hezbollah as a terrorist organization..LaMarina (talk) 01:44, July 10, 2025 (EDT)

"the Shiite movement" lol, c'mon now, that's a bit of an overstatement.
But yes, much of this was covered in Project Cassandra. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:30, July 10, 2025 (EDT)
They are Shiite jihadists, as opposed to Sunni...LaMarina (talk) 02:12, July 13, 2025 (EDT)

Epstein cover-up

Apparently, Trump is covering up for some donors. Looks like the administration is unraveling. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:23, July 11, 2025 (EDT)

Eyewitness Testimony From Epstein’s Victims Directly Contradicts What The Government Is Telling Us.

Townhall.com corroborates John Solomon: Kash Patel Too Deep in Russiagate Probe to Walk Away From FBI.

But there is serious mistrust between Kash, Bongino and Bondi remaining. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:43, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon calls Democrats "idiots": “I have a lot of friends who are Democrats and they are idiots. I always say they have big hearts and little brains. They do not understand how the real-world works." [8]
Yah, like donating to the Trump campaign to get your name off the Epstein client list. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:09, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

JD Rucker: Dear President Trump: Read the Room. A legacy hangs in the balance.

Rucker has a point. We're not Democrats who will believe any line of crap (except for maybe Ken). RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:18, July 12, 2025 (EDT)
We have no idea how much of any evidence, if any, relating to Epstein that the Biden administration destroyed. We don't know if Epstein destroyed evidence. Epstein might have been tipped off if there were Biden administration officials who tipped him off so he could destroy evidence.
Now there is eyewitness testimony. I don't know enough about the case to comment on this particular matter. Conservative (talk) 03:39, July 13, 2025 (EDT)
The key witness was suicided last month. But never mind. You seem to make a habit of spamming and speaking out on things you have no knowledge or interest in. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:25, July 14, 2025 (EDT)
Ken, here, this is specifically for you: North Korea clears Kim Jong-un of any involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. RobSZelensky Must Go! 01:32, July 14, 2025 (EDT)

Pfizer bribery probe dropped after ex-company lawyer Pam Bondi takes over DOJ in February 2025

RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:28, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Max Blumenthal/Grayzone update

RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:13, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Islamic fascist Republic posts image depicting a nuclear strike on Israel

Iran posts image that appears to depict a nuclear strike on Israel. They always mean what they say about annihilation...or/and "cancerous..."LaMarina (talk) 02:11, July 13, 2025 (EDT)

Thanks, I saw it on JPOST.Telling (talk) 14:38, July 13, 2025 (EDT)

Iran detains 21 Christian converts amid postwar crackdown

Iran detains 21 Christian converts amid postwar crackdown, rights group says. Iran has arrested at least 21 Christian converts in recent weeks, with some facing charges under a new law targeting alleged collaboration with hostile states, a rights group saidLaMarina (talk) 02:11, July 13, 2025 (EDT)

I'm sure jihad-apologetic Tucker has a rationalization when it comes to Iran...Telling (talk) 14:39, July 13, 2025 (EDT)