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[https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1771870349421916537 You're not going over to the NeverTrumpers, are you?] The GirlyMan got to you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:17, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
 
[https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1771870349421916537 You're not going over to the NeverTrumpers, are you?] The GirlyMan got to you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:17, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
 
:No, Mister Girly Man, this little reply by you is absolute proof that you engage in harassing behavior if things don't go your way.  You hated this site from the beginning; you hated the people in it, and you'll always find the ways and means of make us feel guilty about all of it instead of you looking in the damn mirror.  So why don't you do us all a favor and SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 16:06, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
 
:No, Mister Girly Man, this little reply by you is absolute proof that you engage in harassing behavior if things don't go your way.  You hated this site from the beginning; you hated the people in it, and you'll always find the ways and means of make us feel guilty about all of it instead of you looking in the damn mirror.  So why don't you do us all a favor and SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 16:06, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
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::Wrong. I only discuss issues. If you wanna crawl in bed with the GirlyMan, that's your business. Conservapedia is not a mobocracy.
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::Now, do you wish to discuss [[Victoria Nuland]], Gen. Michael Flynn, ISIS-K, the [[SBU]], etc etc, or continue trolling? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 16:10, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

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Welcome back!

I apologize for my campaign of polemics against you two years back. And in terms of recent Conservapedia activities, there are some debate pages I started relating to Christian theological disputes on issues like Sabbath vs. Sunday, soul sleep vs. immediate judgment, and annihilationism vs. eternal tormentism. I'd be eager to hear your thoughts on those topics. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 20:11, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

The return of a User soon? If so, this is awesome!

I just noticed this. This is awesome!

People of Conservapedia I have returned. The hour of your redemption from China/Russia cheerleading is here. USA! USA! USA!

"Though they may hate me, I will force them to esteem me as well." - John Paul Jones

Key point: Perhaps, Karajou noticed User: RobSmith reverting my edit saying the U.S. Navy is the most powerful navy in the world. This may have caused him to consider returning to Conservapedia. See RobSmith's EDIT of the article World naval powers.

I hope Karajou's return occurs soon. Conservative (talk) 00:46, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Your tax dollars at work

Gatewaypundit: “Day of the Dead”: Neo-Nazi Azov Brigade Conducts Torchlight Rallies All Over Ukraine.

Moral cowardice is defined by not speaking up against this. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 05:41, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Notice 1

Things have changed since you've been gone. We don't let people just walk in and pee all over the carpet on discussion pages, like how you ran things. You must be civil. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 05:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

The "we" in your silly posting is just you. You are the one who needed to be civil, but refused to do so the past two years. You returned to this site expecting to take it from Andy, to run it your way, to have everyone follow your brand of rules, and all I'm seeing from this silly posting of yours is the ranting of an arrogant, narcissistic jerk.
Well, I got news for you, you little bastard. This isn't your website. This isn't your property. You can't do what you please. And absolutely none of us are obeying your rules. If you have a problem with that, feel free to write Andy, or your congressman, or that Dear Abby chick in the papers. You are nothing. Karajou (talk) 08:09, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia needs another America first and very pro-capitalism admin. Come back soon!

Key quotes of RobSmith:

IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)

It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

What won't happen? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:00, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I hope Karajou returns soon. Conservative (talk) 05:55, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, only a nazisymp would criticize Sec. of War Stimson, Sec.of the Navy Knox, and Gen. Donovan's collusion with Stalinists to defeat nazis. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 05:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I should have endeavored to look at your perspective more before you quit. I should have looked at the potential consequences if you left. My apologies. And....

I should have endeavored to look at your perspective more before you quit. And I should have looked at the potential consequences if you left. My apologies.

Also, just you know. A few people have told me that your absence was a loss to the website. They said that your leaving the website gave RobSmith too much power which was detrimental to the website. Conservative (talk) 06:32, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

We have had maybe 6 vandal attacks in the past 8 months - rather than 6 per day when Karajou got an endorphin rush by playing whack-a-mole with his enemies. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:42, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Oh yeah, the whackamole excuse you always bring up. First, it was directed against hostile people who wanted to come into the site; second, did you ever stop to think that Andy SHUT OFF ACCOUNT CREATION a few months ago? And here you sit taking credit for the lack of vandal attacks. You're not only a LIAR and a FRAUD, you're a MORON as well. Karajou (talk) 07:17, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Use Page Protect; you were never trained in the proper use of Admin tools. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
"A few people have told me" - not two minutes ago Cons complained about gossip. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
well of course there have been very few vandal attacks...account registration on CP has been disabled, so they can't get in. That's very bad for the future longevity of CP, but apparently we couldn't solve the problem another way. --DavidB4 (TALK) 16:35, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Page Protect should be the first response to vandalism, not the sledgehammer; the same pages have been attacked over and over again daily by socks. Lock the page first, then warn. Then Block. That's what Page Protect is for. That's why the WikiMedia Foundation developed it. Page Protect is the first line of defense against vandalism - not Blocks. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:53, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Just in case you had problems accessing it. Here is your old user page

Karajou, just in case you had problems accessing it, here is your old user page: User:Conservative/Karajou user page. Conservative (talk) 07:06, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

One area of potential improvement

Conservapedia has about 150,000 page views to its Russia article. It also has about 100,000 page views to its India article.

Despite RobSmith being overly pro-Russia and not being objective enough and very frequently posting Russia-related content, the Conservapedia Russia article merely has 50,000 more page views to its Russia article than its India article.

Bottom line: Maybe you can make some improvements to Conservapedia's Russia article and its Vladimir Putin article in terms of objectivity. For the record, I don't think Putin is some kind of Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin, but he's not some kind of angelic figure either.

For example, add some content about the Russian ruble falling to Conservapedia's Russia article. Conservative (talk) 07:16, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I am not pro-Russia. This is a lie. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 07:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Let me take that back - personally, I would like to the US & Russia as allies, but as Prof. Mearsheimer states, "the mess that we have created here, the disaster we have created here cannot be underestimated in terms of its scope," I'll never see it in my lifetime - thanks to Biden, Blinken, and Sullivan (and all the nazisymps. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you have already made your position clear:

"It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)"

There is no need for further explanation on your part. Conservative (talk) 18:10, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

An addendum regarding the So-and-so vs So-and-So past dispute. My apologies for the mistake I made

At the time I was endeavoring to be a mediator/referee between you and RobSmith before you left, I don't think I did enough due diligence in respect to your complaints. I apologize for this. If someone is going to referee, they need to look at the "playback tape" so to speak.

And looking back, there were signs that the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely" would kick in as far as RobSmith (Although he never had absolute power).

I am glad you returned to Conservapedia and I am not the only one who is glad that you have returned. Conservative (talk) 09:24, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, I've heard that same spiel a couple of times myself. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:29, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you for putting the liar and fraud in his place

In all honesty, the reason I turned against you two and a half years ago was because he told me that you were the menace to Conservapedia, and that with you out, he would fix the site and drastically improve its editor base and traffic, etc. Of course, after you left, he gave amnesty to a whole array of trolls, and prevented me from taking action to block problematic users subverting mainspace articles to promote liberal narratives. (i.e. calling racist activists "conservative" in order to promote the "racist = conservative" canard spouted by liberals nonstop) —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 09:31, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

It's because he's a liar. And he knows it, and because we know it, he'll be grasping at straws as he tries to "justify" himself here. He's finished. Karajou (talk) 13:34, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Speaking of his serial overloaded record of lies, here is one example; so RobSmith posts a MPR headline leading readers to think that a majority of Americans of various ethnic backgrounds believe in the racist "Great Replacement" canard (which was invented by progressives Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard, so it's hardly a "right-wing" conspiracy theory), yet his own link says "majority of Trump voters." When I confronted him for lying, he threw bizarre ad hominem attacks; not quite pleasant.
Another example would be when he told me privately that you were a "closet racist" because you "didn't have black friends" or whatever. In retrospect, I was a complete moron for believing him. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:05, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
That son of a bItch has already lost, and there's not a damn thing he can to change it, no matter how hard he pretends. Karajou (talk) 00:20, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

We are in the sixth seal of Revelation and approaching the seventh soon

Since I don't want you to fall for the mark of the beast that's coming in some number of years (I think 2027, from Feast of Jublilee tallies, will mark 6,000 years since creation, according to some calculation(s)?), it's important to understand exactly what that mark is. First off, what is the first beast of Revelation 13? None other than Papal Rome, which ruled supreme for a prophetic time, times, and half a time that equals 1,260 prophetic days. (Rev. 12:6, 14) Of course, a prophetic day means a literal year (Ezek. 4:6), so 1,260 literal years. The Code of Justinian in 538 A.D. gave Papal Rome its supreme power that lasted until 1798, when Louis-Alexandre Berthier, by the order of Napoleon Bonaparte, seized the pope captive. And the deadly wound was healed (Rev. 13:3) in 1929 when the Lateran Treaty gave Papal Rome its seat and authority back.

The second beast of Revelation is none other than the United States of America. So how do we know that the end is nigh? Remember that the second beast is described as a theocracy (Rev. 13:15); a beast is a kingdom (Dan. 7), a civil power; when a civil government decrees religious worship, it becomes a theocracy. Which group here in the U.S. is clamoring for a theocracy? None other than the Christian Nationalists, whose end agenda will be a Sunday Law demanding the nation worship the day of the sun rather than the biblical seventh-day Sabbath. (there is no Bible verse substantiating Sunday observance; this is a complex subject to dive into separately, however)

It's important to understand how the Hegelian deception game works to see what is truly going on around us. Remember, the end goal is a "far-right" theocracy, but how can you achieve one? Even back in the 1940s–50s, conservative Protestants were adamant about upholding separation of church and state; Truman tried to establish diplomatic connections with the Holy See, and backed off because of massive Protestant opposition. What happened then? The New Left in the 1960s threatened the moral fabric of American society, and soon conservative Protestants, amidst forsaking historicist eschatology for Futurism, gradually formed an ecumenical alliance with Catholics in the name of "social conservatism," and in the coming decades increasingly became hostile towards separation of church and state, a biblical principle made clear by Jesus. (Mark 12:17)

So how do you achieve a "far-right" theocracy in normal circumstances? That doesn't happen. First, a nation needs to be pushed as far "left" into societal moral degeneracy as possible, insanely maniacal and depraved in social anarchy, until the masses are finally fed up and will support any counter-movement, yes, even a mob of theocrats, who vow to restore order and overthrow the "nihilists." But in order to achieve such a state of moral degeneracy, it must be ensured that social conservatism doesn't succeed in restoring the moral fabric. Ever wonder why the conservative movement has been a failure for the past decades in the U.S. on the cultural level, and failed to properly educate the youth? It was all planned from the beginning. The social conservative cause must fail so the neo-Marxist left succeeds in creating a state of utter moral chaos, which becomes the perfect breeding ground for a theocratic movement to gain traction and rise to political power, becoming the power that institutes the Antichrist beast system prophesied in the Book of Revelation.

And this is just a condensed summary of all the complex details to grapple. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 10:41, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Karajou a bible believer; it'll be interesting to watch him listen to your heresies. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:31, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
And it'll be completely funny to listen to yours. And I'm laughing at you right now. Karajou (talk) 13:36, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Brother, I love you, cause Jesus commanded me to love you. How many times should I forgive my brother? 7 x 70. Now reread Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility casue they apply even to Admins. Thanks. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:24, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Being a Christian is contingent upon a change in behavior, and what I've seen from you is the right hand not knowing what the left is doing. Your own postings include hostility towards others, contempt for others, threats of blocking if they don't bow down to your wishes, and other crap during the past two years, and you want me to ignore that? You have been thrown out of Rationwiki for shoving your rules down their throats; you have been thrown out of Wikipedia for the same reason, twice. You were part and parcel for the theft of Ameriwiki from George Fitzgerald...and you have to come here. Andy's rules not good enough for you that you have to change them? Sorry, pardner, but this is his website, not yours.
It's your own behavior which proves that you are not a Christian at all. If you need a hobby and it has to be here, I strongly suggest you take some time off from the site and reflect. There are people here right now who have bad feelings against you, and you made that happen. You need to fix some things. Karajou (talk) 14:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
I had no idea about some of the history of RobSmith that Karajou mentioned. Unfortunately, some people never change. Conservative (talk) 14:57, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:00, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
He's making up most of it out of his butt. But he, like you, loves to speak on things he hasn't a clue about. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
OMG! Gossipers! Ban their butts! RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:28, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative: 50,000 people this week told me they don't like you, and your presence is a detriment to project. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:29, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
I definitely agree with Karajou on this; RobSmith loves to hurl the classic "you need to be more forgiving!" cherry-picked quote mines at everyone else merely to suit himself. He conveniently forgets that both Jesus and the Apostle Paul have called people children of the devil. (John 8:44, Acts 13:10) And RobSmith is even worse than Elymas the sorcerer. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:09, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Uh, just curious though, Karajou, what do you think about my semi-lengthy analysis? Do my points at least make sense? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:07, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

There are sincere and informed theologians who believe that it is possible that the devil can repent and avoid Hell (They base it on Jeremiah 18:8). And I know that people can change. But at this point, it doesn't seem as if RobSmith is open to the idea of repenting. Hopefully, that will change. Conservative (talk) 15:14, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Jeremiah 18:8 isn't talking about fallen angels. Every demon has already gone into perdition and sealed for ultimate destruction. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:20, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

—Revelation 20:10

According to this, Satan 100% will face final destruction. Those "informed theologians" should read Revelation 20 again. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
There was a city that God proclaimed judgment on, but last time I read about this issue there appears to be no evidence that this ever happened. Theologians cite Jeremiah 18:8. Regardless, I doubt that the devil is going to repent. He has had at least 6,000 years to do so and he hasn't done it yet. Conservative (talk) 15:36, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] Judgments are conditional; Nineveh repented, and therefore was spared from judgment. Those are probably the same theologians who say "we don't need to keep the law because we're not under the law," completely ignoring Romans 2:13, 3:31, and 7:7. Apostate Protestantism has really hit new lows nowadays, but then again, the early Reformers had similar problems as well. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 15:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I would like to see you made a Conservapedia Admin again. And it should be easy to do.

I would like to see you made a Conservapedia Admin again as quickly as possible (The list of CP Admins is HERE.). During the early days of Conservapedia, I was made an Admin within a week due to my content. This is the fastest way to be an Admin again. While there were some things that needed to be said to RobSmith, the quickest way to be a CP Admin again is through content creation. I am guessing you already know all this and my apologies if I just stated the obvious to you.

Given that you were a Conservapedia Admin before and have a good relationship with Andy, things look very promising for you to be an Admin again if you did it through content creation. Conservative (talk) 17:13, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Please send me an email

Hi again, Karajou, from what I recall (I could be wrong though), you didn't respond to my email over one and a half years ago during the time you were inactive from Conservapedia. Do you still use the same address email and simply had ignored me, or not anymore? There are some matters to discuss, so I'd highly appreciate if you can shoot me an email to my substitute1984 AT gmail DOT com address. Thanks! —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 17:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Web traffic stuff

Here's what CP gets daily right now; let's see if Karajou can help build that or, ahem, go the other way.

Hypestat 10-1-23.PNG RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:42, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

And just look at that, before even rejoining, Karajou already has driven down the hit count. Maybe if he leaves really soon, we can get back to June's traffic levels. /s
And now this idiot is saying I caused a drop in content before I returned. What an incredible statement to make. Idiots do that all the time! Karajou (talk) 00:13, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
We need to write the kind of content people want to read, and on a mass scale. In order to keep up with such demand, we need new people. But as it is, we can't get any. --DavidB4 (TALK) 19:21, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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We need to put somebody in charge of election coverage, and start now. Election seasons are our best years. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:34, October 1, 2023 (EDT)


The times that Conservapedia got the most traffic is when it focused on a niche audience and then created a very comprehensive set of articles that covered that niche. I recall someone saying about Conservpedia "every time I do a search related to the general topic of X for a related subtopic, there is a Conservapedia article in the search results." Speaking as someone who had a client in the news business, there are a ton of news websites, news blogs, news YouTube channels, news social media pages and news podcasts. Conservapedia is not going to get a lot of traction through covering news. Conservative (talk) 19:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Well, we don't have a 2024 US Senate elections page yet or a 2024 US House elections page either. And nobody's stepped forward to be page manager. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:05, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
2024 U.S. Senate elections. It has existed since March. MayGodBless (talk) 20:20, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

If you look at much of the news coverage or talk page content much of it has to do with military coverage of the war in Ukraine which is now a war of attrition. There are war/military channels on television. They often cover WWII. They don't WWI as much or the last 2 years of the Korean which were wars of attrition. These military/war channels also don't cover the Vietnam War a lot where General Westmoreland used a failed strategy of a war of attrition. Not only is Conservapedia trying to compete in the very competitive news space a bad strategy, but military coverage of the war in Ukraine that is a war of attrition is also a bad strategy in terms of building web traffic given that people like to follow flashy "shock and awe" war news type coverage rather than war news of a slow slog of a war of attrition. There are some people who will follow the "Captain Cauldron discussion" or other battle debates between RobSmith and ConwayIII, but many people will not.

"Yet, amid this backdrop of cooperation and solidarity, a kind of weariness appears to be setting in within the Western world when it comes to the ongoing Ukraine crisis."[2] Ukraine fatigue/war fatigue is growing in the West. Also, Russian Elite Starts to Show Signs of War Fatigue.[3] People tire of wars of attrition that drain their wallets and cause the deaths of their young men. Conservative (talk) 07:23, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Geez, I guess that must be why they call it 'war of attrition', huh, cuz it saps all your strength and energy, huh? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:31, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Solution: Let's make pretend it doesn't exist, ignore it, and go on killing people. It worked in Afghanistan. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:37, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
If you are thinking that your content is going to get Kevin McCarthy to start calling you, you are dreaming. Historically, the peace movement is weak in the USA and the military-industrial complex is strong.
First of all, when I decided to criticize atheism via Conservapedia, I first created a lot of traffic and publicity to Conservapedia via my homosexuality-related articles. I don't see you creating a lot of traffic to Conservapedia. You are spending too much effort on MPR, main page talk posts and community portal posts, etc. etc. That's not going to create a lot of traffic to Conservapedia. Good luck trying to compete in the very competitive news space. When I was a consultant to a conservative news website, I did actual things to increase its traffic so I was an asset. On the other hand, I don't see CP main page right, CP main page talk and CP community portal being a very big driver of traffic to Conservapedia for a wide number of reasons. Conservative (talk) 13:07, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Say, Conservative, are you still getting spam-called by Kevin McCarthy? :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:10, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith's crazy comment about me materially affecting the war in Ukraine was rather humorous. And to answer your question, I have had to change my phone number several times due to the doggedness of Kevin McCarthy's attempted outreaches to me. :) Conservative (talk) 13:14, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
😂 —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:16, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

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Congrats to User:Conservative & LT. They wiped out 1/3 of CP readership in three days - the lowest point in several years. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:56, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

What the H do you want and why do you keep trolling my talk page w/6,000 bytes of garbage?

? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

You're not playing the victim here, stupid. Karajou (talk) 00:07, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith is not a master of politics. He messed around with my World naval powers article which may have caused the ire of Ex-Navy man Karajou which might have caused him to come back to Conservapedia. The Navy's motto is "Honor, courage and commitment". Let's hope that Karajou starts creating content and becomes a Conservapedia admin again. Commitment! Hooyah! Conservative (talk) 14:27, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Look up! West Point just dropped "Duty, Honor, Country" as their motto. I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but The Times They are a Changing. See Essay: Are ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity conservative values?. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:54, March 22, 2024 (EDT)
and they whispered among themselves, 'can this be... RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:51, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
You can say that all you want, but we've exposed you for what you are. There isn't a single thing you can do against anyone else here that won't be dealt with. Now go change your diapers, baby. Karajou (talk) 17:13, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Karajou, I would like to see you made a Conservapedia Admin again ASAP. The list of current CP Admins is HERE and unfortunately you are currently not on this list.
Start creating Conservapedia content because you might be a hairsbreadth away from being a CP Admin again - especially if you create articles/content having to do with social conservatism, culture war issues, the current struggle between Democrats and Republicans, etc. Conservative (talk) 17:24, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Oh yah. The current struggle between Democrats and Republicans quashes Trumpism and the peace movement, works to the advantage of the uniparty, the deep state, globohomo, global fascism the WEF, Western oligarchs and elitism, transgenderism, and the LGBT movement. Yes, please do. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:31, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
The gauntlet has been thrown down.

Karajou accepts a challenge and he is on his way to be a Conservapedia Admin again through content creation.
Here's a good job for Karajou: Do the biography of Republican Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox who worked with Democrat President Franklin Roosevelt and Communist dictator Joseph Stalin and never uttered a word against leftism, communism, or Democrats. Ok? Let's see Karajou kick that brain into gear. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:35, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Sure thing, just as soon as you provide direct evidence concerning the death of James Forrestal. Karajou (talk) 17:39, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, these quotes of yours reveal your agenda:

"IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)"

"It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)"

It's time for an ex-Navy military policeman to put the cuffs on the falsehoods and incivility of RobSmithdom at Conservapedia. Hooyah! Conservative (talk) 17:40, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) And let's not see a cut n paste from the leftwing communist Wikipedia. Let's see some real hard core conservative Republican values and research for Knox justification to work with the commie dictators FDR & Stalin. After all, Knox is one of the few Republican heroes we have who defeated Hitler. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:41, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Ok, we'll call it a challenge. Karajou (talk) 17:44, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Good. Thank you. And if it looks good, it goes a long way to earning respect; Below now is my post that met an edit conflict:
Earning respect from who? Karajou (talk) 17:51, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
The conservative and genuine anti-fascist movement. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:02, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Now you can take the easy way out and say Knox was a RINO and neocon, and Hitler was justified; but that's not what most Republicans and conservatives said at the time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:47, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Question: Was my World naval powers article bait to cause RobSmith to disrespect the U.S. Navy and thus prompt Karajou to come back to Conservapedia or was it merely unplanned serendipity? User: Conservative is so inscrutable, Conservapedia's readership may never know the answer to this question!

"Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible as Heaven and Earth, unending as the flow of rivers and streams; like the sun and moon, they end but to begin anew; like the four seasons, they pass away to return once more." - Sun Tzu.

One thing I do know is that good chess players think several moves ahead and are not impulsive.

Hold out baits to entice RobSmith! RobSmith thought he had the tactical high ground, but he lost miserably. Checkmate, RobSmith. On the high seas of the World naval powers article, the SS RobSmith started taking on water.

On the high seas of the World naval powers article, the SS RobSmith started taking on water.

Olé! Olé! Olé! Conservative (talk) 22:00, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Typical User:Conservative: after Karajou, RobS, and Andy agree on a pathway to resolve problems, User:Conservaitve starts gossiping and stirring up doo-doo again, trying to derail Karajou from his bible project & Frank Knox bio into some pointless dispute to defend Cons fascist tendencies. It's not like karajou doesn't have a full plate already. Leave the man alone. He's not your savior. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:19, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Conservative has national syndicalist tendencies? Wow, if only you had evidence to back up your claims. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 22:20, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Hey, we can get to that, once User:Conservative successfully derails Karajou efforts in his bible project and Knox biography. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:23, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

I am in the midst of creating this essay: [[Essay: The U.S. Navy is the most powerful navy in the world]].

I hope this essay helps clarifies matters.

If anyone has any issues with this essay, I suggest creating the essays Essay: The U.S. Navy is NOT the most powerful navy in the world and Essay: China's navy is the most powerful navy in the world. Conservative (talk) 22:29, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, with all the gripes that RobSmith has about your essays, he would be a lot more respected if he created counter-essays instead of going around calling everyone fAsCisTs nonstop and trying to delete essays. Remember when he lost that AfD vote 1–3? —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 22:32, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
I wanna see if Karajou takes User:Conservative's trolling bait. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:35, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Why China's Navy is a JOKE by Colonel Douglas Macgregor
Key point: Colonel Douglas Macgregor is one of RobSmith's biggest heros. RobSmith wanted to see Douglas Macgregor be Conservapedia's conservative of the year in 2022. Et tu, Colonel Douglas Macgregor?Conservative (talk) 22:58, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Did you actually listen to the clip? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:07, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Never mind. You are so far out of your league it's pathetic. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:08, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video: "China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that."[4] Conservative (talk) 00:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video: "China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that."[1] See: [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|Skepticism about China remaining a global power]]

As the HMS Multipolar World Fantasy ship was going down, the China/Russia cheerleader RobSmith could be heard stubbornly yelling in desperation, "The world is a multipolar world!".

See also: [[Essay: The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?|The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?]] and [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]

Please read: [[Essay: The wreck of the HMS Multipolar World Fantasy|The wreck of the HMS Multipolar World Fantasy]].

I hope this helps clarifies things further. Conservative (talk) 00:26, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Not really. You evidently don't understand the difference between a blue water navy and a coastal defense. And it makes no difference anyway, cause (as stated before) a Supercarrier won't make it to Hawaii on its way to "defend" Taiwan before it gets hit with a hypersonic. To quote yourself,
I really don't want to have a discussion with someone who says they are set in their ways and would never change their mind about something. And I didn't see you really addressing what I wrote. So continued discussion would be like talking to a brick wall. And I have no interest in doing that.

—Conservative (talk) 14:47, September 16, 2023

Mine is still bigger than yours, anyway.
I hope this helps clarifies things further. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:58, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, I am open to hearing your case. Write the counter-essays: [[Essay: The U.S. Navy is NOT the most powerful navy in the world]] and [[Essay: China's navy is the most powerful navy in the world]]
The problem is that you just kvetch. Nobody likes a kvetcher! Conservative (talk) 01:00, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Mine's bigger than yours. Nuff said. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:04, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, while you are at it, write the essays:

Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 01:07, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

None of you spam trolling is gonna hide the fact that mine is bigger than yours. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:13, October 3, 2023 (EDT)


Think about this: we're still trying to build aircraft carriers. Aircraft carriers are about as relevant to the modern world as horse cavalry was in World War II. Cavalry may have been great in the 19th century, but technology made it irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles, which both Russia and China have, make US aircraft carriers expendable. They'll be dead very quickly if they ever go into combat.

—Larry Johnson, Oct. 3, 2023 [5]

Consider:
No, Chinese hypersonic missiles have not made US aircraft carriers obsolete, The Telegraph, 2023
Incoming: Can Aircraft Carriers Survive Hypersonic Weapons?
China’s hypersonic missiles threaten US power in the Pacific – an aerospace engineer explains how the weapons work and the unique threats they pose Conservative (talk) 02:24, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Look at your sources, and reread the piece from the Quincy Institute. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Why do you put up crap from a neocon rag with a paywall? What are we supposed to do, be convinced by a headline (like yourself)? Show some respect for other human beings - if you're going to make an argument, take the time to search archive.is for the text. Don't be rude and treat other people like idiots. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:37, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

China is in sad financial and demographic shape. I hope it doesn't launch a much bigger navy because it will be costly to maintain. The authoritarian Soviet Union had high rates of GNP growth - until it didn't. Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video: "China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that."[6] See: [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|Skepticism about China remaining a global power]]

Slow and steady GNP growth over time wins the race and so is less central planning.

Do you remember the story of the tortoise and the hare which taught that slow and steady wins the race?

It turns out that this is right when it comes to economies. A great video on this matter is at Should You Be Bullish on America?

Cheers. Conservative (talk) 02:52, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, now you wanna change the subject. You are an extremely rude person. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:54, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
In the USA you can much more vote with your feet and move to a GOP locally controlled state/county. So it has more financial/social stability. China's increased central planning/control under Xi Jingping is risky and inefficient.
In addition, historically slow and steady GNP growth wins the race - the Soviet Union, Japan and now China shows this.
A military is significantly affected by its financial/social stability. Colonel Douglas MacGregor is right about China and you are wrong! Conservative (talk) 02:59, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
I have no clue what you are talking about. We were talking civilly about navy's, aircraft carriers, and their vulnerabilities to hypersonics. Now you're onto some BS about economics, finance and GDP. You're just rude. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:13, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

"And absolutely none of us are obeying your rules. If you have a problem with that, feel free to write Andy, or your congressman, or that Dear Abby chick in the papers. You are nothing. User:Karajou|Karajou (User talk:Karajou|talk) 08:09, October 1, 2023 (EDT)" Conservative (talk) 03:19, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

You just electronically forged Karajou signature. I removed it, for you. Karajou seems like he's settled down in the past day and is taking his work seriously. Your trolling is out of control. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:34, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Respect is earned

I'm going to be as peaceful as possible when I say this, RobSmith. If you want my respect, you have to make some changes to yourself. It's a simple two-way street; it's not and never has been one way, and you do know what I'm talking about. You respect the people in the website, I will respect you. Pretty simple. Karajou (talk) 17:58, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

I agree with this approach. Conservative (talk) 03:54, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith

Karajou, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:

Andy and DavidB4,

Less than a month ago, we had an "Articles for Deletion" vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted.

With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also.

Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content.

Sincerely,

User: Conservative

I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. Conservative (talk) 04:25, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine

At Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine please vote in the following manner:

This is a time wasting revote. There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. User: RobSmith lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.

Your vote on this matter would be very helpful. Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later.

By the way, this is what RobSmith recently said about capitalism:

"Fascism is both socialism and capitalism; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)"

Thank you very much for your past editing at Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 08:58, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I can affirm this is 100% true; the evidence can be seen here. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 09:00, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I came to a fascinating new insight about Revelation!

Please send me an email; I want to privately share a great visualized picture of the Book of Revelation with you. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 10:45, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Please comment on my motion

Please comment in support of my motion at: Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements. Thank you, MayGodBless (talk) 21:12, October 9, 2023 (EDT)

Here's an essay you may like and find interesting

See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 08:42, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

Your user page would look great with this item on it

Please join the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. Your user page would look great with the below item on it: {{Userbox |border-c=#000 |border-s=1 |id-c=#fff |id-s= |id-fc= |info-c=#99CCCC |info-s=13 |info-fc=#000 |id=[[File:Icon-team.jpg|80px]] |info=<center>'''This user is part of the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association|CP Civility Association]].'''</center> }}

(this message was composed by User:Conservative.) MayGodBless (talk) 14:36, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

A note

Just wanted to note you here - RobSmith stole the message you had on your user page regarding editing and editors and claimed it for himself on his user page.

I also unblocked you earlier after Rob unjustly blocked you without cause (he falsely claims "Violation of Commandments and/or CP guidelines", which he himself has recently been doing repeatedly, as the reason) and I ended up getting unjustly blocked myself for it. Also:

  • As part of his out-of-control behavior (which, even though it goes without saying, he has a documented history of), he falsely and hypocritically accuses his opponents of "trolling" and "incivility", both of which he himself has engaged in and projected against his opponents. As part of their personalities, trolls seek to intentionally anger their opponents with their words and actions, then use the opponents' reactions against them while the troll paints himself as the "victim" and self-righteously rails against his opponents who react in self-defence - and this is exactly what Rob is guilty of doing himself (and every time he does what he does, all he does is prove our points). His behavior on this site also matches certain personality aspects of trolls - machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy and sadism (as the troll article elsewhere on the site documents - and of course, trolling is one of the character traits of liberals included in the infobox template about liberal characteristics and traits).
  • Also as part of his extreme abuse of power, he unjustly blocks his oponents to silence them so they cannot defend themselves or speak out against his irrational behavior and actions while he is able to speak against them (in his typical snarky, snide and sarcastic fashion) all he wants (as well as lie about them all he wants and accuse them of what he is guilty of doing/saying/being himself - all traits displayed by liberals); he also reverts article edits that remove LPOV opinion to return them to such edits, then locks the articles to protect the favored edits.
  • As is well-documented, he expects others to follow his rules (i.e. the ones he made himself, not Andy or anyone else here) while he exempts himself from those same rules and acts as if he is entitled to do as he pleases on this site without responsibility or retribution (also all traits displayed by liberals).
  • Based on his history as an editor at RW (combined with his behavior here), I suspect that Rob is actually a saboteur who is out to destroy Conservapedia while he deceitfully pretends to "help" this site. Northwest (talk) 14:17, November 1, 2023 (EDT)

Notice 2

Message regarding editing and you

In addition to the following Conservapedia Commandments, I expect several things from you.

  • The first is that you will respect this website. That order suggestion is non-negotiable.
  • Second, respect the people here.
  • Third, do the research when you write an article. I’ll have more respect for you if you hit the books and do a detailed article then if you simply put in one or two sentences with a link to a silly website that you insist is a source.
  • Fourth, if you need help, ask.
  • Fifth, don’t troll, don’t vandalize, don’t engage in edit wars, don’t pick fights, and don’t engage in endless debating on article talk pages if it has nothing to do with improving an article. I can and I will put an end to any of it.
  • Sixth, if you do debate, restrict it to a debate page set up for that purpose and keep it civil.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:26, November 2, 2023 (EDT)

Gen. Michael Flynn

You're not going over to the NeverTrumpers, are you? The GirlyMan got to you. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:17, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

No, Mister Girly Man, this little reply by you is absolute proof that you engage in harassing behavior if things don't go your way. You hated this site from the beginning; you hated the people in it, and you'll always find the ways and means of make us feel guilty about all of it instead of you looking in the damn mirror. So why don't you do us all a favor and SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. Karajou (talk) 16:06, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
Wrong. I only discuss issues. If you wanna crawl in bed with the GirlyMan, that's your business. Conservapedia is not a mobocracy.
Now, do you wish to discuss Victoria Nuland, Gen. Michael Flynn, ISIS-K, the SBU, etc etc, or continue trolling? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 16:10, March 25, 2024 (EDT)