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Just tell me how could we protect better the Mormon articles? --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 12:31, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

What do you mean by "protect better" Joaquín? This is a wiki and we try to avoid protecting the articles. --DeanStalk 13:23, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
OK, I will do my best to patroll them. At present I am out of home. Just keep doing your wonderfull work. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 13:31, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
Joaquín, Thanks for Patrolling the articles and dealing with JimmyP. As I mentioned on the church talk page, he needs to explain in detail why he has a problem with that link. --DeanStalk 13:27, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
I am out of town. I will be back untill August 6th. Thanks for your help. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:16, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Good to hear from you Joaquín. I hope you have a great vacation! --DeanStalk 17:26, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Hi DeanS, what a great article 'Breaking Speaker Pelosi's News Blackout'. I love the strategy, proud of my GOP 'ers, it is so patriotic!--jp 00:50, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Jpatt! Now if only President Bush would make Congress come back in session to deal with this issue. They don't deserve a five-week vacation. --DeanStalk 02:11, 5 August 2008 (EDT)


Thanks, Bro!

I thought your guys are gonna ignore me again, but Nah, I got wrong ideas. Thank you, May the Lord bless you! [1] I wish I was brave enough to do that! But only I'm could is to support them to do so, "sigh".--TagoPagdaluhong 11:36, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Your welcome Tago. I think the pic is a nice addition as well. --DeanStalk 11:39, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
I must say, that picture is much better view then the source had.--TagoPagdaluhong 11:50, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
I agree. I followed the pic to its source and was rewarded with this version. --DeanStalk 11:58, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Conservapedia:Featured articles.

Your opinion is needed in: Holy Days, Architecture, Great Flood and Deconstruction. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 13:39, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

Done. Thanks for the reminder. --DeanStalk 14:03, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
Thank you! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:24, 19 October 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for the welcome! This website is actually a god-send, a perfect oppurtunity to actually make use of my summer holidays. Hey by the way, I was wondering what CP's policy on science articles are, as this will probably be the aspect I'll be contributing to quite a lot. Thanks again- Jl2000

Just start editing and you'll find out soon enough ;-) --DeanStalk 15:21, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
I researched this person's edits and found much of the material to be false. There was also information on that other site which made it very clear that he was just another of their parodists. Jinxmchue 15:58, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Interesting. They're supposed to be on a boycott of CP right now. ;-) --DeanStalk 16:29, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Christian solidarity

Hi, Dean. I like your Image:Beijing arrests.jpg but I couldn't edit the caption. Can you crop the image and put the caption in the image link? --Ed Poor Talk 09:30, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi Ed. How about this cropped image? The caption is in the image info. Image:Beijing arrests2.jpg --DeanStalk 13:24, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks and a request or two.

Thanks for pointing me at that list of admins. Two things - Conservapedia:User rights is full of broken links but is locked - can you or someone else fix these? Also can you unlock Rape for me as well - the current wording includes the phrase "seducing a child" - as seduction as a concept can suggest an element of consent I'd like to rephrase the article. Thanks in advance. DefenderofTrue 21:39, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Pre-screening of News stories

Just curious - why the "No article prescreening" policy, and why delete what I thought were constructive comments, instead of responding to them on the page? --DinsdaleP 20:44, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

The reason there will be no article pre-screening by you (or other liberals) is because myself or another admin will be prescreening the articles.
I deleted your comments because those project pages are only for project members, and I'm not going to have nonmembers influencing the project. --DeanStalk 20:58, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Okay, all that makes sense, but if you read my post, I wasn't suggesting that I pre-screen, because I know non-conservatives like me aren't welcome on the sub-project. I had the sense that there was no pre-screening by anyone, and your edit-comment seemed to bear that out. Thanks for clarifying.
Also, can I ask a blunt but serious question? Do you ever find that the labels of "liberal" and "conservative" are taken wayyy too seriously here, resulting in an all-or-none, black-and-white division between the two perspectives? I never post here to make trouble, only to offer a viewpoint that's usually more nuanced than the black-hat/white-hat exchanges that often take place. I hate labels myself, because in my case I'm libertarian on most social issues, conservative on fiscal ones, and still trying to figure out the spiritual - "Unitarian/Universalist" is probably closer than "Agnostic", but neither one is a strong enough fit to apply to myself.
So if you want to create sub-projects for the true-believers only, go for it. I've just observed that while this is Conservapedia and not Neutralapedia, the "feel" of the place has become more polarized and combative, with less tolerance for dissent or even respectful disagreement, and a corresponding drop in the number and quality of contributors.
As I said though, good luck with the news project, and I'll post my comments on the Main:Talk page. --DinsdaleP 21:17, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Dinsdale, You said, "I wasn't suggesting that I pre-screen". What is this? "... I'd be glad to participate in article screening..."
No, I don't find the labels are taken too seriously here. I have a problem with liberals and their way of thinking. Liberal viewpoints are wrong.
I find very little of the "respectful disagreement" from liberals; mostly I see great examples of Liberal Style, vandalism, parody, troublemaking, obscenity, etc.
Your comments here are respectful; therefore I have responded in kind. --DeanStalk 21:39, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the courteous response. As for my statement on volunteering, the complete statement was "I'd be glad to participate in article screening but I don't qualify to be on this sub-project." Hey, I'd love night-editing rights, too, but I'm about as qualified to get that, too ;-) --DinsdaleP 22:05, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
LOL --DeanStalk 22:21, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Didn't mean to step on toes

I'm just a huge fan of Cherone's and his ability to not alienate people when discussing Christianity and why abortion is wrong. So, I'd rather stick his "line in the sand" in there, if you don't mind. He has stated that anyone who really wants to be taken seriously in this debate at least needs to recognize that a woman has a right to live, if / when a baby directly threatens that. It's a position, being a woman wanting children, I happen to share.  :-) If you really think it's liberal bias, let me know or a third party know, and we can "let the majority vote" (as it were).--MHayes 22:43, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Btw, I DO mind. There is NO majority vote when an administrator removes liberal bias. --DeanStalk 22:59, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
I guess I don't understand what "liberal bias" is in this case, then. Are you asserting that Cherone is a liberal? I really have no idea his political preference, just what he has said about abortion. --MHayes 23:01, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
No, I'm not saying that Cherone is a liberal. See my comments at Talk:Extreme --DeanStalk 23:16, 20 August 2008 (EDT)


DeanS, Wikinews, my spelling error on the Ayers story. Unrepentent should be unrepentant.-- 50 star flag.png jp 10:31, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Could you add int link for Stephanie Tubbs Jones? Tanks in advance!--50 star flag.png jp 12:43, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Jp. This mistake has been corrected.
The wikilink was added here. --DeanStalk 12:53, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Thank you!

For stepping in. Whoever that person was, he was doing bad things to my blood pressure :) --KotomiTUser talk:JessicaT 10:07, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

You're welcome Jessica. He was an imposter and was dealt with accordingly. --DeanStalk 10:10, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

I got really annoyed... --DiEb 10:32, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

No wonder you were annoyed. I'm sorry this happened to you. We have enemies of this site, and they don't care who gets hurt or how much damage/disruption they cause. This incident reminds me of homicide bombers. All they care about is themselves and how much damage they can cause.
Be on the alert for imposters. You can check their contributions like this. JasonH's contribs started today. Also JasonH created his account today. Since we know the real Jinxmchue has been editing for a while, that would also be a clue that JasonH was an imposter. Finally, he used this obvious deceitful [[User:JasonH|Jinxmchue]] signature. --DeanStalk 10:59, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Thank You for the Unblock

I appreciate being restored given that my comments aren't mainstream here, and I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. --DinsdaleP 19:52, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Phillip explained why I was wrong, and I wanted to fix my mistake. Even though I don't agree with your views, I won't block you for expressing them. --DeanStalk 19:58, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Wikinews Project

Mr. DeanS,

Why exactly do you think I'm a liberal? I've tried to make it clear that I am anything but.

--JosephG 23:52, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Joseph, I don't think you're a liberal. I thought I explained the reason clearly in the email. --DeanStalk 00:36, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

I see you have had great success with wanted pages via Wikinews. Since you have run out of new topics, I thought to suggest adding some words from Special:Wantedpages. Just to keep the pac motivated.-- 50 star flag.png jp 15:43, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Jp, even though that is an interesting suggestion, I prefer to link to items on the news section; since this is a news project. If you want to suggest items, look at the news articles and see where the wikilinks are missing. Sometimes it's because the poster didn't bother to use existing wikilinks; other times it's because the article hasn't been created yet. It's quite challenging to go through the news articles and find these wikilinks. --DeanStalk 16:14, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
No problem. Before I submit a news item, I wikilink almost every word then use the preview to see which is or isn't listed. If you like, I can immediately add words that don't appear to the wanted section. -- 50 star flag.png jp 16:45, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
That would be great! If you could add missing wikilinks for the other suggestions, that would be even better. ;-) --DeanStalk 16:51, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
Jp, I have reconsidered your idea to use the Conservapedia wanted articles. Just using the news wikilinks was okay, but including the general wanted articles is even better. Plus these articles also add to their count. If you want to add articles, add them to the bottom of the Conservapedia wanted articles section. --DeanStalk 09:53, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
Response to 'add missing wikilinks for the other suggestions', I would but do not have access to mainpage:right. -- 50 star flag.png jp 12:25, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
What I mean is that you can add the missing wikilinks before the suggestion is posted.
Thanks for continuing to add new wanted articles.
What do you think about the section on revising the news postings? --DeanStalk 12:32, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
I am fine with adding wikilinks before postings, even if they do not get posted.
My pleasure to help CP
Sounds interesting but I am not sure I understand. Do you mean, create a short essay/summary, then link back? -- 50 star flag.png jp 12:39, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
Once you add the revised headline summary, I will replace my headline with your revised headline on the Main Page. --DeanStalk 12:46, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Hey DeanS, what is your policy if we created a news item that wasn't posted. But then the item was created and posted by a SysOp? Do I still get credit? --Jpatt 20:29, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

I believe you should still get the credit. Add a comment below your suggestion and you will get the credit. --DeanStalk 21:45, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Hi DeanS, no problem with wanted updates. I will continue to add some this week. My only thought is that contributors suggest news and doesn't make it to the frontpage. Tying their unpublished news posting to the amount of contributions to the wanted page, say 10 contributions gets an unpublished front page post? I take pride (I am sure others due too) in frontpage postings of a 4 million page view homepage. I don't know, just trying to brainstorm. --jpatt 16:07, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Do you have an example? --DeanStalk 16:19, 17 December 2008 (EST)
Yes, I just completed 15 wanted page listings and I really want to see the unpublished news suggestion 'Liberal Media on the Ropes.' You say, "It has been earned- published to homepage news section." Again, just throwing ideas around, if it makes sense, I don't know. If every news item I suggest ends up on the frontpage, then there isn't an incentive to complete wanted pages.--jpatt 16:35, 17 December 2008 (EST)
Ok. Thanks for the example. I don't have a problem with that idea for some contributors (like yourself), but there are some liberal editors on this project that no matter how many wanted pages they contribute, their liberal news suggestion won't be posted. --DeanStalk 16:45, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Outdated news item

The main page has a news item that says: "According to RealClearPolitics, for the first time in the 2008 Presidential race, John McCain overtakes Barack Obama in the Electoral College poll 274 to 264." You may want to remove that from the main page since it is no longer accurate, and the link provided leads to a page showing Obama leading McCain 273 to 265 (that is what is how right now, anyway). KimEide 13:54, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Done. Thanks for the alert. --DeanStalk 14:22, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

IP's ban

(Not sure if this is proper procedure, but I'm still fairly new).

I disagree with your ban of Impm; there was no 'edit war' that could be perceived based on his recent (see five minutes ago) edits of the Barack Obama article. Jirby 14:45, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Jirby, MYOB or you will be blocked. --DeanStalk 14:50, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Wow, they're really obsessed with me

How many people have created accounts referencing me? Quite a few, it seems. At least 3, to my recollection, including today's "Lowjinx." Jinxmchue 00:02, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

They're obsessed alright; with you, all of the Conservapedia sysops and Conservapedia itself. They are also obsessed with vandalism, parody, deceit, and every other element of the Liberal Style.
I prefer to call them "possessed". They are possessed of a lying and evil spirit. They're sowing wickedness, and will reap wickedness at the judgment day.
--DeanStalk 01:01, 27 August 2008 (EDT)
A little less talk, please. --Ed Poor Talk 07:28, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Good, steady work

Dean, thank you for your longstanding, careful attention to the main page. No one keeps up with current events as well as you do.

I also like your "wiki gnome" work, like this minor copy edit. --Ed Poor Talk 07:29, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

You're welcome Ed. --DeanStalk 10:53, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

False quotes in News story on Obama speech

I wasn't sure if you saw my comments about the false statements in the headline about the Obama speech. Do you consider the headline correct in it's current form? --DinsdaleP 13:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I read your comments. I would like Chippeterson to respond to you and provide a link for reference. --DeanStalk 13:59, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Understandable, but here's a link to the transcript of the speech, which clearly shows the headline is false and misleading. Chippeterson should respond, but only a sysop has the ability to edit news postings on the main page, and as the link shows, it's wrong. --DinsdaleP 14:10, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Bear in mind that The New York Times is the leading liberal news source, so their "factual" claims must often be given close scrutiny. They have even misreported science news, e.g., publishing the assertion about open water at the North Pole (which was later shown to be historically inaccurate) just in time to influence public policy on global warming.
Although liberals refer to the NY Times as the "newspaper of record", conservatives don't give it as much credence. (They have the legal write to print opinion as fact, you know; see First Amendment.) --Ed Poor Talk 09:36, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

It's not "the" transcript (as in the only one possible); you left out "as recorded by CQ Transcriptions". Part of the strategy of liberal news media is to pick their sources carefully to give the impression they want. If you do a little research, you can find where a Boston Globe editor declared this quite openly. Would you like that as a writing assignment? --Ed Poor Talk 09:40, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Republican Convention Headline

Last phrase should read "Democratic Vice Presidential nominee", not "Democrat Vice Presidential nominee." Thanks --Jareddr 12:40, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. Thanks for the correction. --DeanStalk 13:21, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

RIP Bill Melendez

Thanks for that news, sad as it is. An unsung hero and icon of American culture whose legacy will live forever in our hearts. Jinxmchue 00:24, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Jinx. The article was submitted by Benp and I just posted it. Can you start an article for Bill Melendez? --DeanStalk 00:29, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
I'll have to see how soon I can get to it. Going to bed now. Have some yard work to do in the morning and work work from the afternoon through tomorrow morning. Jinxmchue 01:21, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
No problem Jinx. Thanks for your contributions. --DeanStalk 01:31, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Sysop Q

How does one become a sysop? I've only been here a few days. JY23

See Conservapedia:Administrators/Promotion. Sysops are selected as needed from the best of the best contributors, there is no popularity contest to determine promotion. --DeanStalk 18:17, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Re: New article request process

Didn't know about the process ([2]) Sorry, Nerd 16:19, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

That's fine. I usually just do it myself, and after you tried to do it, I realized I needed to write a process. --DeanStalk 16:32, 5 September 2008 (EDT)
Cool. Nerd 16:37, 5 September 2008 (EDT)


DeanS, could you upload these photo's for me for the John McCain and Joe Biden articles, thanks. Chippeterson 8 September 2008

Here you go: Biden on Meet the Press and McCain on Meet the Press. --DeanStalk 23:32, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

I appreciate it. Chippeterson9 September 2008

Other Pictures

Also DeanS, there are some articles with no pictures at all and could really use them. I was hoping you could upload these. Chippeterson 9 September 2008

Here you go: Colin Powell, Tim Kaine, Ray Nagin and Lindsey Graham. --DeanStalk 02:52, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
Chippeterson, I deleted the Ray Nagin photo from Conservapedia and reverted the article because it could have been an AP photo and we're not allowed to use AP photos. The site uses a lot of AP photos and I wasn't able to determine if this was an AP photo. I don't mind uploading pics for you, I just need you to double-check the source and ensure they're non-AP photos before I can upload in the future. --DeanStalk 13:42, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

I'll be more careful from now on DeanS. How about this one of Nagin from Chippeterson 10 September 2008

Chippeterson, thanks for understanding. Here's the pic for Ray Nagin. --DeanStalk 18:28, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

Betty Ford

I just wrote an article on Betty Ford and it could use her picture. Could you upload this. Thanks.

Here you go: Betty Ford. --DeanStalk 22:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

Night Edits

DeanS, i think somebody left the spicket on. Can you close new user signup til daylight hours? Thanks -- 50 star flag.png jp 01:16, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

I noticed that too and already took care of it. Thanks for the reminder. --DeanStalk 01:25, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
Yesterday it was turned off around 2. I thought it was just later now than it used to be. HelpJazz 01:33, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
It varies. I'm not going to go into details, but you can email Andy if you have further questions. --DeanStalk 01:36, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
Naw, I understand. HelpJazz 01:37, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

"Debate about news articles is not allowed on this project."

This makes absolutely no sense. Somebody suggests a news item on [[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions]], but comments about these suggestions have to be posted on Talk:Main Page before the suggestions are posted on the main page? Talk about convoluted! Nobody would know what I'm objecting against, so I would have to preface it with "Somebody suggested a news item on this and that page, and I'll now comment on it here". But I can see that my objection had zero impact either way, so posting it again in the "proper" place won't do a thing, will it? McCain is excused for not knowing how to send a mail because he can't use a keyboard (sorta kinda). Right. --DirkB 16:28, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

DirkB, although it doesn't make sense to you, there is a reason for this rule. I want that page to contain suggestions only. I don't want liberals debating about the suggestions. From what I've seen on the Talk:Main Page, liberals like to discuss some of the articles, other editors reply, and this goes back and forth. I don't care whether you or other liberals agree with the suggested article. You can have these endless discussions on the Talk:Main Page after it's posted, not on the suggestions page. --DeanStalk 16:45, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
I don't think he liked your reply... Bugler 16:52, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
Too bad. I'm not here to please the liberals.
Good block, btw. You better get ready to defend the permablock from Philip, etc. ;-) --DeanStalk 16:57, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
<sigh> Bugler 16:59, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

DRamon (talk contribs count)

Do you think he should be unblocked? Perhaps I was a little harsh, seeing as he has been creating content. I took a look at his edits after he edited another user's userpage, though the user has now reverted back to Ramon's version. Earlier this issue was brought up in Schlafly's talkpage. I mainly blocked him for this [3]. The parodists have been having fun with that list. Also he had been warned before. Take a look at his edits, is he a parodist? Do you think unblock? HenryS 01:37, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

I do think DRamon should be unblocked and I don't see him as a parodist. If you want to warn him for editing someones user page that would be appropriate. Thanks for asking. --DeanStalk 01:46, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
User is unblocked. HenryS 01:54, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks Henry. --DeanStalk 02:04, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Inappropriate user name

A new user has joined with the user name : Tony Blair. could you please look into it?--Carolyn 09:05, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

He's a vandal and has already been blocked. Thanks for the alert. --DeanStalk 09:07, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Satan... Carrot Top...

You have to at least admit that was pretty funny. It's rare that the vandals and parodists are actually funny instead of stupid. Jinxmchue 15:09, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

That's why I changed the block comment. ;-) --DeanStalk 15:27, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Wiki support

DeanS, as a member of Wikiproject: News, I feel you have spoiled me with attentiveness and clear direction. As a member of Wikiproject: Religion, I have no such contact, no direction, no replies. It is frustrating but I can live with that. I wanted to pick your brains about site structure that I have unable to find in the help section. Category's seem to have boundaries. A rule of thumb, no more than three, correct? Multiple category's on similar topics not looked upon as correct? e.g. Catholic Church and Christianity. Sub-categories have more precedent than category tagging? -- 50 star flag.png jp 15:33, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the compliment, Jp. I don't have the same passion for categories and I defer an answer to those who have more interest. I would suggest you start a Wikiproject:Categories and go from there. --DeanStalk 15:58, 19 September 2008 (EDT)


Was it really necessary to revert that last edit by Fred1776? It was on a talk page, and was not rude in anyway. Robust, certainly, but neither rude nor insulting. "Liberalist version whatever"'s edits were vandalism: this was an opinion. It's one I happen to share and I am sure that many on this site share. Surely Aschlafly is not such a tender soul that he needs protecting from this. It might make unpleasant reading, but it's surely nicer and more decently put than a "mild" rebuke from Bugler --Toffeeman 16:55, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Lecturing the site owner is not appropriate, period. --DeanStalk 18:54, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Something's not right with that mainpage edit

It looks like you posted the same story twice, though I see what you meant to do. Jinxmchue 19:28, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

I thought about taking off the second link, but I wanted to provide twice as much fun for the liberals. I'm going to change it now. --DeanStalk 19:32, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
Just wanted to point out mispelling of 'organization' in the human rights watch story. I don't know if we should be promoting HRW. I believe their foundations are the monitoring|promotion of homosexual rights.-- 50 star flag.png jp 11:55, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Organisation is correct English in the home of that tongue! As for HRW's Liberal bias - well, if even they are condemning Chavez... Bugler 12:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Misspelling corrected. Btw, misspelling has two s's. I don't believe we're promoting HRW, just that we agree with them in this instance. --DeanStalk 12:09, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
As you can tell, my grammar and spelling needs much improvement. The news headline: Could the he U.S. mortgage, needs a fix'n. -- 50 star flag.png jp 14:15, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Fixed. --DeanStalk 14:25, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Jpatt, I think you may be confusing HRW with HRC (Human Rights Campaign), which *is* an organization based on the promotion of homosexual rights. It's easy to get the two confused, which was probably the intent when they came up with the name for HRC. -Foxtrot 14:44, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

Another brainless attempt to hack my account

This time from IP Could you do me a favour and give them a daisycutter? Thanks, Bugler 05:32, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Done. --DeanStalk 08:30, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks, Dean Bugler 08:36, 25 September 2008 (EDT)


A user called Christmaster2000 keeps writing 'McCain = The end of the world' at the top of pages. Can you stop him?--CPalmer 09:41, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Where? I don't see the changes? --DeanStalk 12:15, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
There was one on Athletics, which I've reverted, plus a few others. Actually he seems to have been blocked already - I thought he was active because his change was still on the Athletics page.

Thanks for unblocking me

Thank you. Sideways 09:36, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Your welcome. Philip convinced me to undo your block. --DeanStalk 09:49, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Archive mainpageright

Since you're a regular who archives the main page, can you do so sometime soon? Jallen 03:48, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Done. Btw, Conservative took my archive and restored it to the Main page when he added the Evolutionary Racism of Hitler and Darwin section to the bottom of Mainpageleft. --DeanStalk 08:11, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Berg lawsuit

Since the claims made on the mainpage In the News headline were shown to be false four days before the headline was posted on Conservapedia, will you please remove the entry?--Brossa 16:30, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Done. --DeanStalk 17:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
Thank you.--Brossa 18:30, 8 October 2008 (EDT)


News- Debate

Shouldn't the second presidential debate be discussed in the news section? Corry 23:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Done. --DeanStalk 00:07, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Family Values

I made a grammar burp. No such thing as won't. Also, count me in on the previous news project.--Jpatt 10:55, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

I disagree with saying "won't" is a grammar burp. "Won't" is correct. "Won't" is a contraction of "will not". [4]
Thanks for agreeing to participate in the previous news subproject. I'm going to set up a special page for our coordination and will link to it from your talk page and the subproject. --DeanStalk 11:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Let's block registration wave

Dean, let's permanently block everyone registered between 11:30 and noon. I think they're fake. Thanks.--Aschlafly 12:03, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Andy, I blocked the IP - it was the same one for all 101 accounts.
08:57, October 11, 2008 DeanS (Talk | contribs | block) blocked (Talk) with an expiry time of 5 years (account creation disabled) ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: 101 accts set up from 08:30, October 11, 2008 to 08:43, October 11, 2008)
I blocked the rest of them. They're all blocked now. --DeanStalk 12:31, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Great effort. I thought the IP might be the same, such that blocking one would block all. But it didn't hurt to block the names also, in case someone tried to access it from a different IP.
In the future, I have an even more powerful way to delete the accounts.
Thanks again for your alert effort.--Aschlafly 12:34, 11 October 2008 (EDT)


Definetely, your idea is a must. Though, explain to me about Suggestions for new Previous Breaking News summaries. Is this the same as Rewrite current headlines?--Jpatt 18:11, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

No, it's not the same. Rewriting the current headlines is for someone that wants to improve headlines on the current Main page. The Suggestions for new Previous Breaking News summaries, is like the other Previous Breaking news, but the page hasn't been created yet. I want us to create those pages and link them to our Conservapedia articles and incorporate their content into the corresponding articles. --DeanStalk 19:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Once additions are made, would you suggest strikethrough font the listing?--Jpatt 20:32, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Once additions are made, move the listing to this new section: Completed updates to September 2008. --DeanStalk 00:42, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
The sheer size is overwhelming. We need an army of helpers.--Jpatt 00:34, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
I totally agree. Since this is a long term project, I'm hoping we can make progress while recruiting others to join our efforts. I would like to have a competition similar to the other subprojects - Wanted pages and News suggestions. Any ideas? --DeanStalk 00:42, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
Competition is your best bet. I can suggest members pick categories that they are fond of- like ACLU. Then their responsibility includes News additions, past and future, ACLU posts.--Jpatt 01:12, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
Interesting idea. Let's say you picked the ACLU subject. Then someone else picked Barack Obama. How would the competition work? --DeanStalk 01:19, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I just want to say that I think this is a bad idea. I realize Jpatt worked very hard on the recent additions to ACLU and I commend him for that, but I don't think the additions help the article. Since news headlines, by their nature, aren't broadly descriptive, they don't fit well in most articles. They end up being made into lists, which I don't think satisfy the "conscise" requirement of the commandments. Additionally, most of the sources for the news article are blogs or internet news sites which generally aren't up to the standards needed for regular articles. Maybe there will be times when a news headline or two is relevant to an article, but I think wholesale moving of headlines is not appropriate. HelpJazz 18:58, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I am just following orders for the Wikinews/subproject. I will wait for DeanS to rule before adding any more.--Jpatt 23:02, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
Where are the rules? HelpJazz 23:26, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
Oh, I found them. HelpJazz 23:29, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for your efforts Jp. I'm glad you decided to wait before adding more headlines.
I agree with a couple of HelpJazz's points. I don't think the wholesale moving of headlines is appropriate either. The idea is to use the news links as a reference to improve the article. We need to discuss the details on the corresponding previous news talk page.
I also don't see how we can do this as a competition. We want quality instead of quantity on these edits.
I disagree that this is a bad idea. While inserting the headlines directly into the article isn't the right approach, I believe the news links provide unique material that can improve the article.
I also disagree with the notion we shouldn't use blogs or internet news sites as resources. The mainstream media doesn't provide much material we can use because of their liberal bias. Conservative truth is found in these blogs and we will continue to use these in our articles and news items.
In summary, I think we need to be careful how we use these news items. If done in the proper way, these links can provide valuable reference material for our articles. --DeanStalk 01:32, 14 October 2008 (EDT)


Hello Dean. As a Mormon, I feel you should know that User Conservative has been promoting the blogs of a man named Mariano Grinbank who writes such blogs as Atheism is Dead, Richard Dawkins : Scientist or Activist?, Atheism Dissected and others (I say “promoting” because these blogs would not warrant encyclopedia entries on their own; they are hosted by popular free blog sites and have little traffic). There is nothing wrong with this, however the same Mariano is a dedicated anti-Mormon who writes a blog attacking Mormonism, calling it “offensive religion”, and saying “Mormonism has sought to discredit Christianity”, and “everything that Mormonism does, everything it teaches, everything it stands for is an offense against Christianity.” I don’t think this is the sort of character Conservapedia should be promoting. SamJ 09:28, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the info. I have no problem with Conservative promoting the blogs against Atheism and Richard Dawkins. I'm also aware that there are several anti-Mormons on this site. --DeanStalk 09:36, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
My concern isn't about the anti-atheism blogs, which I'm sure are fine for this site, but the fact that these links prominently link to the same writer's anti-Mormon blog, which Conservapedia is therefore indirectly promoting. A reader who finds one of these blogs through Conservapedia and finds it convincing may easily look at the other links to the other blogs and be led to a screed condemning Mormonism. That is my concern, but if you don't object then that's fine. I just felt you should be informed. SamJ 09:51, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
Your objection is noted. I hope you will make some positive contributions to Conservapedia. --DeanStalk 09:57, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

My talk page

According to Conservapedia:Guidelines I am in control of my own talk page. I have no intention of getting embroiled in an edit war here, but why is this not being respected? Corry 18:18, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

See Conservapedia:Commandments # 5. Advertisements are prohibited. --DeanStalk 18:32, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Username change

I apologize for using an inappropriate username. I did not see a statement of Conservapedia's username policy on the account creation page. May I suggest that you folks add one there? It might prevent misunderstandings and hard feelings in the future. —Asphalt P . Stanky

You should have seen the following when you signed up the first time:
"Note: Offensive user names will result in that user name being blocked and perhaps the IP address being blocked. Frivolous user names, names of prominent living persons, and user names consisting of, for example, all capital letters or all the same character, may also result in that user name being blocked. User names based on your real name or initials are preferred."
That policy seems clear to me. --DeanStalk 16:55, 11 November 2008 (EST)

The M&M factor

Thanks for the quick revert. I was just about to ban and revert, but you beat me to it. We should write more about the similarities between LDS and UC. Tithing is 10-30%, isn't it? And our youth now do a 1 or 2 year mission before college. I call it learning from our elders. --Ed Poor Talk 07:22, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Tithing is 10%. The missions are 2 years for young men and 1.5 years for young women. Also, some senior couples go on missions for 1.5 years. Some men go to college for a year before serving their mission, since the minimum age is 19 years old for the men. The male missionaries are called "Elders", because they must be ordained as Elders in the Melchizedek priesthood before they serve a mission. Women must be 21 before they can serve a mission, and if they aren't married by then, they are eligible to serve a mission. - Missionary Work --DeanStalk 08:03, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Funny Jeopardy Question A garden tool - but also means sexual immoral --Ed Poor Talk 13:34, 14 November 2008 (EST)


Can I contact off list about the LDS? Would you unlock you email for 5 minutes?--Jpatt 20:28, 18 November 2008 (EST)

Yes, you may contact me offline. My email is unlocked. --DeanStalk 23:11, 18 November 2008 (EST)

I am very very very sorry, for describing Mormons, as cultists. Please forgive me, I got very angry and stopped thinking-- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) email me 16:04, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Forgiven. I appreciate your contributions to Conservapedia and hope we can remain civil. --DeanStalk 16:51, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Great block

Great block, Dean, on "JasonAllen". I was going to use the term "liberal namecalling" for that block. Your reason was charitably understated.--Aschlafly 20:27, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks. I realized that was the wrong block reason and i changed it. --DeanStalk 20:30, 19 November 2008 (EST)

News suggestions procedure

Am I doing this right? I realized a couple things while I was going through the process (admittedly, didn't read all the guidelines before I started), and hopefully I'm on the right track now. I improved my entry to include appropriate links; one thing I think I did wrong was to add the pages to the wanted pages list before my suggestion made it to the front page, but they seem like pretty useful pages in general, so I'm leaving them up there for now - if I have time this weekend, I'll make those articles if somebody hasn't by then. Mikek 10:47, 21 November 2008 (EST)

I will check your entries soon. Thanks for your contributions. --DeanStalk 11:09, 21 November 2008 (EST)


Thank you for deleting and protecting those Date pages. You never know how parodists and vandals could use them for their evil goals! --Nasu 12:39, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Nice sarcasm Nasu. The date pages are being deleted since they are in violation of the Manual of Style. --DeanStalk 12:42, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Thank you for the "nice", less for the "sarcasm". But thank you, I must remember not to wikilink to dates, as inviting as it may be. --Nasu 12:47, 23 November 2008 (EST)


Could someone enlighten me on what that means? I created a date article as to what happened on "Such-and-such a day in history". I'd like to know how that violated the Manual of Style. Thanks for understanding. JY23 15:56, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Conservapedia's Manual of Style differs from several other prominent wikis. One of the ways it differs is that we do not have pages on specific dates (a list of important events that occured then). It would be wise to familiarize yourself with the MoS so we can avoid such encounters in the future. -Foxtrot 16:11, 23 November 2008 (EST)

News project and categories

Would you mind if I categorized the subpages in Wikiproject:News? They are cluttering up the list of uncategorized pages, which makes it harder to spot new pages that need categorizing. Plus it will give you a page with handy links to all the pages in the project.

Thanks--CPalmer 09:30, 26 November 2008 (EST)

No, I don't mind. Thanks for your contributions on categorizing. --DeanStalk 10:34, 26 November 2008 (EST)
Done that. Hope the organization is to your liking. We're down to just 70 uncategorized pages now (some because they're protected, if you fancy helping out...)--CPalmer 13:48, 26 November 2008 (EST)
The categorizing looks good. I will help out with the protected articles. Provide a link to the article with the requested category and I will make the changes. --DeanStalk 13:51, 26 November 2008 (EST)

Here they are:

Obviously feel free to use different categories if you don't agree with my suggestions. Aschlafly has approved adding categories to the homework assignments. Thanks--CPalmer 07:03, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Done. --DeanStalk 10:29, 28 November 2008 (EST)
That's brilliant - we're now down to just 35 uncategorized pages, which is amazing when you consider that a couple of weeks ago there were over 1000. User:WesleyS deserves a lot of the credit for that.--CPalmer 10:32, 28 November 2008 (EST)
I agree, that is amazing. When you get it down to zero (albeit temporarily), post a message on Aschlafly's talk page. I'm sure he'll appreciate that news. --DeanStalk 10:37, 28 November 2008 (EST)

LDS and the Trinity

UltimaHero made several good points about the difference between (1) LDS views on the Trinity and (2) Protestant views on it. The link which argues that your church is closer to Protestants than the latter realize has a needlessly irritating label. I suggest we incorporate UH's analysis into the article, along with Kelly Bingham's ideas. Then we can use the external link as a footnote. --Ed Poor Talk 07:17, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Ok, Ed. I think that's a compromise we can work with. --DeanStalk 10:12, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Great image

Great image, Dean, for Thanksgiving!--Aschlafly 11:19, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks Andy. I found an appropriate place for it in the Thanksgiving article as well. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. --DeanStalk 11:24, 27 November 2008 (EST)


Hey Dean, I made a goof on my George Washington Wikiproject:News suggestion. It should read "Read his proclamation" it currently reads "Read his proclaimation." Sorry, hope you had a wonderful thanksgiving. Peace --jpatt 23:14, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Fixed. Thanks Jp. --DeanStalk 01:29, 28 November 2008 (EST)

quotebox in Family Research Institute article

Hi Dean , I hope you can help me fix this , I was trying quotebox 2 but it didnt seem to work. I am asking you because you seemed active at the moment . Thanks Markr 14:06, 29 November 2008 (EST)

Do you have a wikilink for quotebox 2? I didn't find it using the search function. --DeanStalk 14:12, 29 November 2008 (EST)
Template:QuoteBox2 it looked like the best option but came up as red link Markr 14:20, 29 November 2008 (EST)
Perhaps BrianCo can fix this for you (since he created the template). Add a post to Template talk:QuoteBox2. --DeanStalk 14:28, 29 November 2008 (EST)
thanks , I have done so Markr 14:49, 29 November 2008 (EST)

Thank you :-)

Hi Dean S, Thank you for always protecting my images, I appreciate it! Taj 14:08, 29 November 2008 (EST)

You're welcome Taj. Thanks for your contributions. --DeanStalk 14:10, 29 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks for volunteering to leave out 'that link'. --Ed Poor Talk 15:40, 30 November 2008 (EST)

You're welcome Ed. The discussion on the talk page helped change my mind about the link. --DeanStalk 15:43, 30 November 2008 (EST)
Now you're getting me all teary eyed. How I do miss the early days at Wikipedia! --Ed Poor Talk 15:51, 30 November 2008 (EST)


Dear friend

TK has accepted to be part of the team for Featured articles, I am sure you will be glad to have him with us. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 21:16, 1 December 2008 (EST)

Great news Joaquín. I'm glad Terry has joined our team. --DeanStalk 23:33, 1 December 2008 (EST)

Image protection

Dean, I saw you protected Image:Red_dot.gif. Do you think that you could leave it open for the time being as I am still experimenting with it. This also applies to Image:Red pog.svg‎ and Image:Blank USA outline.svg‎. Thanks. --BrianCo 15:06, 3 December 2008 (EST)

Done. Please let me know when you are done editing them so I can reprotect them. I don't want them used as vandalism fodder. --DeanStalk 15:46, 3 December 2008 (EST)


I was unaware that the B-1B Lancer article was previously featured. They removed the archives after Public Transportation was featured. JY23 13:56, 7 December 2008 (EST)


Hello, can you please provide me with information on debates: whether I, as a normal user, can start one, and if yes how. Many thanks! DiegoC 15:23, 7 December 2008 (EST)


Dean could you delete Image:Blank USA outline.svg I couldn't get it to render properly so replaced it with a png. Also could you unprotect template:Nb sl english premier it needs updating. Thanks BrianCo 18:54, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Done. --DeanStalk 18:58, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Thanks, I also need Template:Tnb sports league unprotecting, if you would be so kind. BrianCo 19:19, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Done. --DeanStalk 19:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Thanks. Please delete Image:Soccerball.svg SVG rendering here is not very good. Also you may proect Image:Soccerball.png. BrianCo 19:55, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Done. --DeanStalk 20:11, 7 December 2008 (EST)


Thank you for blocking the account you just blocked. I noticed it and guessed it would be safe to assume the worst about anyone going by that name.-AlexanderM 16:52, 8 December 2008 (EST)

You are correct. --DeanStalk 16:56, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Wanted pages: "premarital sex"

Hi Dean,

I had a question that needed resolution by an administrator. While going through the wanted pages, I stumbled upon "premarital sex," a page that has many links to it. When I tried to start a stub for the page, I noticed that it was "protected" from re-creation. I think that's a mistake. While Conservapedia should be family-friendly, a short article on premarital sex that goes into no more detail than needed could warn of the risks of this type of conduct, and provide links to abstinence only resources. Therefore, a short article could do more good than harm. If you would like to unprotect it, I could start it, and you could protect it after I was done to ensure that no vandals disturb its message.

Alternately, if the page is truly meant to be left blank, please let me know and I'll go around the site removing any links to the term to get it off the wanted list.-AlexanderM 12:35, 9 December 2008 (EST)

British Telecom

inetnum: - netname: BT-CENTRAL-PLUS descr: IP pools country: GB admin-c: BTCP1-RIPE tech-c: BTCP1-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: BTNET-MNT mnt-lower: BTNET-MNT mnt-routes: BTNET-MNT

"BT is the world's oldest communications company, with a direct line of descent from the first commercial telecommunications undertaking in the world. The Electric Telegraph Company established in 1846, was the first outside the United States to exploit leading edge telegraphy technology and introduce electrical communications to an astonished world. Within ten years an international network had been developed, making communications possible within minutes and hours instead of days and weeks. The consequences for every aspect of society were dramatic and profound...."

Yours BRichtigen 15:28, 9 December 2008 (EST)


Dean, not at all, my friend. However it was kind of handy, the liberal trolls kind of announced themselves, making it easier and faster to block them! I see you have the situation well in hand, blocking out the areas we don't have editors from, unless they are a troll, like everyone from the Southern Hemisphere, lol. ;-) --₮K/Talk! 21:15, 9 December 2008 (EST)


RightWingAndProud was told to recreate his/her account with an appropriate name after being banned as 420time. See this FernoKlumpMr. Schlafly! Look at this petition! 20:10, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Go post this over on Andy's talk page because he just blocked RW&P and told him to use another name. --DeanStalk 20:15, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Protected images

Could you protect the MLS logos? Thanks. JY23 20:02, 12 December 2008 (EST)

I have been protecting whatever I see you upload. --DeanStalk 20:09, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Oh, OK. I just don't remember seeing the Chivas logo protected. Sorry to bother you. JY23 20:13, 12 December 2008 (EST)
No problem. I regularly protect images uploaded by those without admin rights. If I miss any, another admin should fill in the gaps. --DeanStalk 20:17, 12 December 2008 (EST)

The Johanan Question

erm... why does everyone seem to have some kinda grudge against the Johanan page? - i am wondering whether i should recreate the page, or just let it rest in peace (or pieces) PhilipV

I originally nominated it for deletion because it said that Johanan was a name, but gave no examples of anyone who was called it. If there's a famous Johanan (an Old Testament figure perhaps?), I'd suggest recreating it and making it about that person, rather than the name itself.--CPalmer 09:04, 13 December 2008 (EST)
Thank you for responding CPalmer. CPalmer is correct. --DeanStalk 10:42, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Great job

Getting all those disturbingly named accounts. Thanks!-AlexanderM 22:07, 13 December 2008 (EST)

You're welcome. I don't know why they're even allowed to create names with "Christ" in them. --DeanStalk 01:34, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Image Protection

I uploaded Science_Award.png, and wish to update it with a better version, but it's locked. Can you unprotect it? - Rod Weathers 18:05, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Done. I really like the look of your awards. --DeanStalk 18:09, 18 December 2008 (EST)


Dean can you unlock the mineral template? I need to play around with it. BrianCo 11:20, 22 December 2008 (EST)

Done. Thanks for trying to fix this problem. --DeanStalk 11:23, 22 December 2008 (EST)
OK I fixed it, you can delete the two other versions of the image and relock the template. BrianCo 11:28, 22 December 2008 (EST)
Done. Thanks for fixing the template. --DeanStalk 11:54, 22 December 2008 (EST)

Merry Christmas!!

Merry Christmas!!----PhilipV I Support our Troops! 07:05, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Thank you PhilipV. Merry Christmas to you as well. --DeanStalk 10:22, 25 December 2008 (EST)

THANKS for work on illustrations

much appreciated! RJJensen 06:51, 27 December 2008 (EST)

You're welcome. Thanks for uploading all the illustrations to enhance our articles. It's nice to have your historian expertise on Conservapedia as well. --DeanStalk 11:49, 27 December 2008 (EST)