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Geopolitics

User:Conservative proudly has a series he labels: User:Conservative Essays: Geopolitics. Let's see how studied and knowledgeable he is to lay claim to use of that term. Using 2 articles from Wikipedia (yes, as a member of WP's Copy Editor's Guild I found a glaring error in one article, but that section won't be cited here), I will produce a simple narrative,

Haushofer ... specialty was to combine the fields of geography, history, economics, demography, political science, and anthropology into a new discipline that came to be called Geopolitik.

Geopolitik is a branch of 19th-century German statecraft, foreign policy and geostrategy. It developed from the writings of various German philosophers, geographers and thinkers, including Oswald Spengler (1880-1936), Alexander Humboldt (1769-1859), Karl Ritter (1779-1859), Friedrich Ratzel (1844-1904), the Swede Rudolf Kjellén (1864-1922), and Karl Haushofer (1869-1946).

So obviously Haushofer coined the term.

Haushofer was informally interrogated by Fr. Edmund A. Walsh on behalf of Nuremberg Trials prosecutor Robert H. Jackson to determine whether Haushofer should also stand trial. Fr. Walsh ultimately reported to Jackson that Haushofer was both legally and morally guilty of complicity in Nazi war crimes. Citing, "the role of geopolitics in corrupting education into a preparation for war", Walsh accused Haushofer and his associates of being, "basically as guilty as the better-known war criminals."[11] In his later memoir of the Nuremberg Trials, Walsh further alleged that, "The tragedy of Karl Haushofer", was his participation in the, "nationalizing", of academic scholarship and of turning Geopolitik into a weapon supplying, "an allegedly scientific basis and justification for international brigandage."[12]

But User:Conservative proudly wears the title of geopolitical expert.

Karl and Martha Haushofer died together in a suicide pact

Just like Adolf and Eva or Magda and Joseph Goebbels. But these are the people User:Conservative claims intellectual kinship or being an heir. Need I go on?

Haushofer visited Landsberg prison [in 1927] to teach and mentor both [Rudolph] Hess and Hitler.

Haushofer also coined the political use of the term Lebensraum, which Hitler also used to justify both crimes against peace and genocide.

But there is no indication User:Conservative is bothered by any of this in his Russophobic 'intellectual' pursuit.

in 1919, he forged a friendship with the young Rudolf Hess, who became his scientific assistant and later rose to be the deputy leader of the Nazi Party, second in authority only to Hitler. In 1919, Haushofer successfully defended his second dissertation, and became Privatdozent for political geography at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, and was made a professor in 1933

There was no such thing as "geopolitics" in 1933. Haushofer, Hess, and Hitler made it popular and successful. But User:Conservative is oblivious to facts or history. The Russians aren't. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:13, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

This section is now addressing the analysis of an individual Conservapedia user, and therefore belongs in the community portal, not Talk:Main Page, since MPR isn't to advertise administrator intragripes. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:21, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

The resident geopolitical expert steered the discussion in this direction by commenting on this thread, and this is a subject of vast import to MPR and CP's editorial stance. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:29, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

You decided to bait him into this discussion by making an accusation about his statements which was proven to be flat-out false, so once again, your assertion in an effort to excuse yourself lacks credibility. I hope this clarifies matters. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:33, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, perhaps this should be moved to the user complaints instead. Oh well, I suppose it can remain in COMPORT for now. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 00:37, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

User:Conservative expunging his use of "geopolitics" from Conservapedia after being informed of his identification with the concept.

RobSmith, the government of Nazi Germany created the Volkswagen and in the German the name is "Volkswagenwerk”.[2] If I use the word Volkswagen does that necessarily make me a Nazi given its etymology? Of course not. People use words every day that they don't know the etymology of and words have different meanings in different contexts. Please leave the Nazi hunting to Simon Wiesenthal because your accusing of every Tom, Dick and Harry of being a Nazi is truly pathetic.

And as far as your absurd claim that I am a Russophobe, my music around the world section of my user page features resources that contain Russian music. I will further point out that you said that your knowledge of psychology is weak. So you are hardly in a position to call someone phobic about a particular matter.

Once again, you embarrass yourself with your farcical claims. Conservative (talk) 20:38, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, as far as your claim that I proudly labeled some thing "User Conservative's Essays: Geopolitics". First of all you are not a mind reader. So don't pretend to know my state of mind when I merely labeled a section of my user page in the past "User Conservative's Essays: Geopolitics". A time-honored principle is the maxim "he who asserts must prove". You failed to prove your contention that I allegedly "proudly" labeled a section on my user page "User Conservative's Essays: Geopolitics".

Futhermore, you wrote "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"[3] If comparing yourself to Plato and Socrates isn't pride, I don't know what is.

In addition, as of 10-30-2023 in Conservapedia:User complaints, there are 7 people who voted against you in a no confidence vote as far as your adminship. I will quote two of the voters right now: "Agree: Sometimes Rob sounds like he means well, but then he deletes good content, acts abusively towards other good-faith editors, and pushes pro-communism views. --DavidB4 (TALK) 22:19, October 10, 2023 (EDT)" and "Agree. Continually lying; blatantly hostile towards others. Acts like he owns this website. Karajou (talk) 08:10, October 11, 2023 (EDT)". Do these complaints against you have the ring of people who are complaining about someone that has pride issues?

In short, I believe you are engaging in projection when it comes to your accusation.

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 19:53, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

I trust it doesn't clarify matters.

The point here is, I had tried to inform you, in good faith, for a year and half about the deep doo doo you were stepping into, and you always retaliated and doubled down on Nazi rhetoric until I finally posted this thread in the Community Portal, at which point you panicked and tried to remove every use of the word you ever posted anywhere in Conservapedia. Guilty conscience? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:53, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Lies. LT posted this thread at the community portal. You posted this thread at Talk:Main Page after spending the better part of the month prior yelling at editors for not posting at CP:COMPORT. MayGodBless (talk) 21:15, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, there is a reason NATO war in Ukraine has a pathetic 5 page views/edit ratio. Nobody can trust you. MayGodBless (talk) 21:18, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

oh, thanks. Pretty lame defense for use of Nazi rhetoric, IMO. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:24, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe someone will believe in your accusation in your second last post above. If they do, I hope that don't run into someone trying to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge. The word geopolitics has various definitions and based on one of those definitions, I thought the words "international relations" or "international politics" was more appropriate and precise since it is less oriented around geography. So I did some edits to replace the term using the words "international relations" or "international politics". Regardless, I found out later that the term geopolitics has definitions that are broader in scope so that editing wasn't necessary.

Your desperation to make a charge against me that will stick as far as my articles about international politics is truly amazing. This absolute obsession with the word "geopolitics" is even more ridiculous than your huge obsession with the SPECIFIC month of April 2020 and the date of April 9, 2020. It just shows me that my essays showing some of the shortcomings of Russia and China really get under your skin because they topple your wrongheaded ideas about these countries and also topple some of your other wrongheaded ideas about politics.

In short, if you want my respect and the respect of others, I suggest you create some counteressays to my essays on international politics and related matters. Judging by the 7 to 0 vote of confidence about your adminship, your current obsessions and your talk, talk, talk on the talk pages of my essays rather than make cogent arguments for your own political beliefs are not considered endeavors worthy of esteem by your fellow editors of Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 21:34, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) What's ridiculous is the panic you went into to hide every use of the word "geopolitics" you ever posted anywhere - cause it verified my claim that (a) you didn't know what you were talking about; (b) you were engaged in spiteful and malicious editing against me on a subject you had no knowledge or interest in; and (c) you've done actual harm and damage to Republican party efforts to end Ukraine aid funding. Most despicable, more than 200,000 people have been killed while you joke about fat Russian ladies and polkas.

Your SEO talents could have been used in a positive manner to spread the MAGA message to end the war, rather than in a spiteful manner on a subject you know nothing about nor have interest in simply to troll me. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:39, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Once again, you confuse merely disagreeing with some of your poorly thought-out political views as trolling because you have a RobSmithCentric view of the world. Well, the world is much bigger than you. Get used to this notion and embrace it.

And if you truly wanted to prevent me from creating essays on international politics, perhaps you should have ceased putting hide templates and engaging in other rude, bullying tactics in main page talk and the community portal instead of engaging in civil discussions. That was your mistake. You chose to try to bully someone who doesn't fear bullies. Oh well, such is life. Perhaps you will finally learn from your mistakes, but I have my doubts. Conservative (talk) 21:53, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Now Prof. Mearsheimer, whom you claim to listen to and agree with, says we're in big trouble. You could have helped prevent that. You could start helping to unravel it now. But you have to focus on the subject matter, not persons you meet on the internet you feel animosity towards. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:46, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, I know you desperately wish me to consider you an enemy, but the truth is that I now consider you to be merely someone who formerly annoyed me. Take a look at this graphic: Friend, ally, annoyer or adversary quadrant.

Bingo. Right there. You just admitted your essays are motivated by personal animosity you have toward someone you met on the internet, and not by any interest, knowledge, or desire to inform readers. You need to overcome that handicap and develop an interest in a subject and desire to inform por share knowledge with readers, not to seek revenge against a stranger. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:07, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Now Prof. Mearsheimer, whom you claim to listen to and agree with, says we're in big trouble. You could have helped prevent that. You could start helping to unravel it now. But you have to focus on the subject matter, not persons you meet on the internet you feel animosity towards. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:46, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, I know you desperately wish me to consider you an enemy, but the truth is that I now consider you to be merely someone who formerly annoyed me. Take a look at this graphic: Friend, ally, annoyer or adversary quadrant.

I don't really have any people in the world who are my enemies as far as me specifically. Even many people who very much disagree with me on various matters find I am a cordial and amiable person who has a sense of humor. For example, a person who is an atheist/agnostic and is aware that have written much anti-atheism content wants to assist me with a future venture that I wish to pursue. ConwayIII, who I suspect is an atheist, has had very cordial email correspondence with me. User: Mercian at RationalWiki, who used to be my most vociferous critic, now has a cordial relationship with me.

You on the other hand, have very poor interpersonal skills and that is why you recently had a 7-0 vote of no confidence in your adminship. Your endless factious behavior towards your other editors isn't helping you in any way despite any delusions you may have that such behavior achieves your aims. You certainly haven't convinced anyone that the Russians are blameless when it comes to war crimes or that there isn't sufficient evidence concerning this matter judging by the recent AfD vote on my essay on Russian war crimes in Ukraine. You didn't a single AfD vote. Conservative (talk) 22:17, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Propaganda news

WSJ: Russia has 270,000 killed and wounded and lost more than 50% of its troops

What this means, and hardly anyone is talking about it, is that the War is half over in 1.5 years. Thus, it will mostly end inside 3 years, i.e. within 1.5 years more. The losses and injuries, not to mention the declining Ruble and reduced revenues Russia has faced, is not sustainable. This is clear, very clear, though some are claiming this War is "going to extend into the 2030s" etc.

"More than a year after Moscow failed in its goal of a lightning victory in Ukraine, the Russian military has steadily adapted on the battlefield as it shifts to a strategy of wearing down Ukraine and the West.

To be sure, Russia's military—which has suffered more than 270,000 killed and wounded as its army has lost more than 50%" https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russias-army-learns-from-its-mistakes-in-ukraine-a6b2eb4 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:47, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Projection; NATO cannot admit its losses so they project them on RUssia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:52, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

See: "Russia's ruble is now worth less than 1 cent. It's the lowest since the start of Ukraine war." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ruble-to-usd-less-than-a-penny-lowest-ukraine-war/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:53, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

One of the Planks of the Commie Communist Manifesto of Wretched Apostate Atheist Karl Marx: Central Banks in All or Most Countries

https://mostlyeconomics.wordpress.com/2018/06/19/one-of-the-planks-of-communist-manifesto-was-to-have-central-banks-in-most-countries/

One of the planks of Communist Manifesto was to have central banks in most countries… A food for thought article by Prof Dipankar Gupta. He titles it as: “We are all marxists: Liberal democrats have understood The Communist Manifesto better than communists”.

The article is in written for 200th birthday of Karl Marx. Prof Gupta says Marx would be pleased that around 60% of his suggestions have already been implemented in most countries which prize themselves as liberal democracies:" NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:49, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

What would you replace Central Banks with? How would you purchase oil from Saudi Arabia, for example? Barter? A basket of currencies? Would all purchasers outside Saudi Arabia have to deal with the Saudi sellers directly? How would the sellers know they weren't getting scammed with counterfeit currencies or bogus goods, etc.?

Just cause a source sounds intelligent and informed doesn't mean it is. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:55, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

"Arthur Schopenhauer once said, “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident." https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7265630-arthur-schopenhauer-once-said-all-truth-passes-through-three-stages NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:58, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Yep. Kind of like Trump colluded with Putin, coronavirus comes from eating bats, there are no Nazis in Ukraine, and deep staters aren't working to get DeSantis elected. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:01, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Arthur Schopenhauer wrote The World as Will and Idea, which was the inspiration for the film Triumph of the Will (Nietzsche's Will to Power is a separate discussion; he was a contemporary of Schopenhauer but much younger). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:09, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis is a Deep State pawn? Pfft. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 19:10, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Where did his $100 million come from? Not in donations of $250 or less. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:12, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Somebody made a great point about Communism being deadlier than Nazism.

It looks like someone's bizarre admonition to not criticize communism/China during the war in Ukraine was very wrongheaded. It was also a false dilemma and quite illogical.

Logic is one of the foundational stones of clear thinking.

I would give NishantXavier three Olés due to him really skewering someone's wrongheaded and myopic view of the world. Conservative (talk) 17:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

• Realist School of International Relations Update: Kurt Nimo: For the Corporate State, Ideology is a Tool for Social Control.

• "The corporate state (fascism) is not wed to any ism. It is not ideological, as noted above. It adopts and sheds the appearance of political ideology same as it adopts and exploits cultural trends. The cultural we can ignore, the political we cannot.

• "The system, “GlobalCap,” the “New World Order,” whatever it may be called, doesn’t care about rights for “transsexuals” (there is no such thing) beyond stupidly celebrating such creatures on beer cans bought in the millions by normies. The state serves the corporations and we are here to buy and consume crap made by near-slaves and eat bioengineered frankensh*t.

• "I mean, we built this machine, and have done so since 1945, the industry and technology is in place. Now it is time to cull the herd.

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:26, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Was Communism as Bad as Nazism? Indisputably, yes it was. And Frankly, it was much worse. The Record and Stats/Figures show it

This is relevant in light of recent disputes such as Ukraine allegedly being full of "Nazis". It should be remembered that, while (1) Commies and Nazis are both Dictatorial Thugs (2) They started World War II (3) All the Suffering of Millions during, and sometimes after WWII is because of them (4) They are collectively responsible for the Genocidal Massacre of an estimated 120 MN people (5) but Communism caused far more deaths and thus is indisputably far worse, except to the sinfully and willfully blind. It should also be remembered that, if you are being attacked and invaded by Commie Dictators, as for e.g. both Finland and Ukraine were, you might ally with Germans without in any way agreeing with the idiotic Nazi ideology that Jews and other races were allegedly "inferior" or needed to be "exterminated" etc.

"Courtois argues that there is an essential similarity between communism and Nazism, and then, by comparing the number of alleged victims, comes up with a neat figure of 95m dead for communism against 25m for Nazism. Ergo, communism must have been worse."

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/essays/56390/was-communism-as-bad-as-nazism And Courtois is correct, you idiotic brainwashed liberal. I mean, the person in the link who argues Courtois was incorrect. These brain dead liberals are virtually capable of logical reasoning. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:22, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"These brain dead liberals are virtually capable of logical reasoning." Yep, sounds about right; what a reality to live in, eh? Also, Nazism is a form of Communism. For more information, see: Communist origins of Nazism —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:25, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yah yah yah, I get. We should have took Hitler's side against Stalin. I'm well familiar with that debate. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:32, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Look, I was the driving force behind Wikipedia's Venona project series; in 1976 I was called a fascist in an international relations class for suggesting that the Soviet Union had no legitimate claim to the Ukraine. You need to be better prepared before you bring that kind of fascist propaganda to the table. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Criticism of Communism is "fascist propaganda," eh? Now you're sounding like a real commie agitator. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:37, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

No, I was called a fascist for talking about Ukrainian sovereignty and independence 50 years ago, and called a fascist 15 years ago in Wikipedia for exposing commie spies in the US government in the 1940s and 1950s. It's a testament to how much the American government, media, and academia has swung from being leftwing communist to fascist and nazisymps just since Obama. The paradigm shift.

Go up and watch The Hill report on the Nazi in the Canadain Parliament - both commentators are Black. They offer a very very interesting perspective on what should be done now. You're not going to fool Blacks - middle class black or poor blacks - with this "Nazi Freedom Fighter" bs. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:50, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

General George Patton, who fought and won the War against the Nazis, presciently said: "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy (Germany) all along. But while we're here (on the Soviet border), we should go after the [expletive deleted] now, 'cause we're gonna have to fight 'em eventually."

"[General George] Patton correctly saw the Soviet Union as the main enemy of the Allies after WWII. Patton correctly saw Stalin as the real threat to the democracy of Western Europe after WWII, especially after he saw how oppressively the Soviets treated Eastern Europe with mass murders and mass exiles of Eastern Europeans." https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-context-for-Pattons-We-fought-the-wrong-enemy NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:38, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Soviet communism worked people to death; Nazism killed you on the spot if weren't a Nazi. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:39, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The fast-and-furious murder was at the death camps. The concentration camps worked people to death. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:42, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Arbeit Macht Frei", but most people passing under that sign went straight up the chimney. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:43, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Soviet system used the threat of going up the chimney to get you to comply; the Nazi system used the deception of "Work Makes you Free" to get you to disrobe for delousing before going up the chimney and so they could rummage through your clothes and personal effects. That's the difference between Stalinism and Western Fascism. The Westerners were more efficient - nothing got wasted. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Indeed, the Nazis are even more far-left than the commies are. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:58, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

But you guys opposed Trump and supported Nazism, so it's all coming back. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:54, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not a socialist, and hence I'm not a Nazi. Lies have consequences, RobSmith. (Rev. 21:8) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:56, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The day is coming quickly where trash talking Putin makes you a Nazi. I've been warning User:Conservative for more than a year on this. He didn't have to do it. He could of wrote on UK pot holes or gay Frensh Fries or whatever, but he doubled down, not cause he knows anything about the subject or even cares, but only cause I warned him. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:33, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"trash talking Putin makes you a Nazi" Wow, quite the imaginative fantasy-land you envision. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:40, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The world is changing fast. NATO lost the war against Russia (unless you want to go fight - you're of fighting age, or you want to get nuked). The news just hasn't caught up to the American people yet. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Your fantasies won't last forever, RobSmith. The question at hand is whether you want them to be shattered before or after the close of probation. It makes the eternal difference. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:02, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe when User:Consevative is 98 years old he can get a standing ovation in the Canadian House of Commons for his courage, but people still have long memories. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Christian Nationalism in each individual Christian Country, and then Christian Inter-Nationalism or Christian Universalism in all of Global Christendom together, is the only solution to (1) Communism (2) Nazism and (3) Liberal Abortionism, for all of these are Mass-Murdering Ideologies that are based on hatred and wickedness and have caused the genocidal deaths of millions. 360 Million Christians remain Persecuted in the world today as a standing reproach to those who refuse to work for Christian Nationalism in Christian Countries. Let me share what I posted on this in a Whatsapp group yesterday, when a Christian Sister in North Africa told us she was being persecuted. I also shared that Conservapedia article with the group, and they appreciated it. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:27, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Daniel Kolenda, a CFAN Evangelist who's travelled to Africa to Evangelize, has said in the past he has got Christian Governors/State Leaders to intervene when Christians are persecuted. Christian leaders in the West etc and in Christian Countries should do that more, when our brother and sister Christians in other countries are persecuted. imo." We need Christian Countries to defend Religious Freedom and put an end to all Religious Persecution, especially the Persecution of Christians. Millions continue to die and suffer as we watch.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:28, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Christian Nationalism" is the "only solution"? That's the sentiment which will lead to the formation of the image of the beast. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:40, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Beast is an Anti-Christ system based on the denial that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and even the True Messiah, which best describes Pharisaic Judaism, though partially Islam too, for Pharisaic Judaism denies both, while Islam denies the first. Next, it is Christians who will be persecuted during the Reign of the Beast, and this for refusing to renounce Jesus Christ and accept Anti-Christ as the Messiah. This Messiah will come from either Judaism or Islam, the two sects that deny Jesus Christ is the Son of God. They will accept Anti-Christ as the Messiah, then persecute Christians who remain faithful to Jesus Christ, as I hope I do, and I pray you are faithful to Him also. Read your Bible properly, and pray to the Holy Ghost for His Gift of Wisdom, instead of repeating lies of known enemies of the Christian Faith, such as Pharisaical Judaism which denies Christ is the Son of God, or of Islam, which repeats the same error of Anti-Christ. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:44, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, I explained to you over and over why your theories are incorrect. I'm not going to even bother at this point; I quite seriously hope your rude awakening comes before the close of probation so you have room left to be saved, though clearly it is pointless at the moment for me to articulate the same facts to you again and again, expecting your response to be any different. Best of luck, friend. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:48, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

You choose to remain in error then, LT. I will keep working for Christian Nationalism and end of Persecution of Christians in the World Today. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:51, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you again, Conservative. God Bless you. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:51, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

☭RobSmith☭ is becoming now a complete Communist shill. (see: Comsymp) To him, Stalin was not the ruthlessly bloody mass murderer history remembers him to be, but the leader of a patriotic vanguard against Fascism. He's happy to forget that Stalin enabled Nazi war crimes not only during the entirety of the Communazi era, but also the Warsaw Uprising by refusing to smash Nazis. Even while I have continuously compared Nazism with Communism as parallel and near-identical ideologies, he still brands any criticism of Communism coming from me as "pro-Nazi."

Also not only pathetic, but inconsistent, is RobSmith's view regarding Putin and Communism. So criticism of Communism apparently implies that one supports Ukronazis against Putin, yet arguing any sort of association between Putin and Communism makes one a Ukronazi shill.

According to the Apostle John in the Book of Revelation, all liars "shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8) RobSmith isn't facing an ideal judgment waiting for him, from where he's standing right now. Since probation hasn't closed yet, however, there is still space and room for him to repent, if he chooses to do so. (side note: I was going to post this in response to Conservative's initial posting of the very same comment on my talk page, but he removed it and transferred it here) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I'm no more a commie than Wild Bill Donovan. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:02, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith's political worldview is going to come crashing down as China's growing economic problems will cause Russia to sell less fossil fuels to China. Of course, he will blame it on the West/USA "cheating" or some other nonsense. Men's ability to engage in denialism can be very strong. Putin should have never launched his special operation in February of 2022. It set off a cascade of things that will make Russia's current situation worse. I am looking forward to looking at geopolitics again in 2028 to see what unfolds. And by 2030, I strongly suspect things will be worse for Russia and China.

Of course, I will not see or hear RobSmith's frustration and sadness then as I no longer read RobSmith's content.

But hopefully, maybe some very good things will happen like the Chinese Communist Party will lose power and Christianity will blossom in China. Maybe Russia will see a religious revival and its low church attendance will see a rise. Sometimes misfortune causes men to draw to God. While these things may be unlikely in the near future, you never know what may happen. Conservative (talk) 18:17, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I disagree with the specifics of why RobSmith's fantasies will be shattered (I'm convinced the world may end as soon as 2027), though I concur on the general aspect that he will face a rude awakening. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 18:20, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I suspect RobSmith will blame it all on me. By the way, Kevin McCarthy keeps calling me about the issue of funding in Ukraine. I had to change my number. Conservative (talk) 18:24, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

LT, This is what I was talking about: how a user walks into an ongoing conversation and pees all over the carpet. Those days need to come to an end. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:31, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Glorification, or simply false statements?

Zelensky and neo-Nazi leader Andriy Biletsky, who said the Ukrainian nation's mission is to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans)", also known as White Leader.Telegraph

RobSmith, you pass yourself along as an expert on nazi Ukraine, so here's a simple question: why would a Neo-nazi government running Ukraine right now bother themselves into getting a JEW as their president? Karajou (talk) 02:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Welcome back. Let's keep it civil. How Zelensky Made Peace With Neo-Nazis, Consortium News. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:54, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I want YOU to answer the question, and not some spurious news link. Karajou (talk) 02:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

There are several ways to answer; he's not a practicing Jew; he is not a maternal Jew; he shares with Ukrainian Nazis hatred for Russia; he's in it for the money; he's corrupt to the bone. Need I go on? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:02, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, please go on, Mr. Expert. Explain why these so-called nazis didn't kill him. Nazis do kill Jews, don't they, or did they just up and quit that? Karajou (talk) 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Because he brings home the bacon. $113 billion so far. Please spare your mocking attitude and keep it professional. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

There is no way Zelensky did not know who he was raising his fist to in Parliament, a member of the SS Galicia Division. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

You are talking about an incident in Canada last week. What does that have to do with Ukraine the past few years? Karajou (talk) 03:07, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not sure what your question is, there is video of Zelensky meeting with the Azov on the front lines. Zelensky angrily responding after being rebuked by his own Azov forces. (2:08) RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Can't or won't answer it? It's a simple question. Karajou (talk) 03:18, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Classic RobSmith move: confronted with a problematic question, dodges to a different point; repeat ad infinitum. He's been doing this for the past two years. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 10:05, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Don't get snippy. Read it all yourself. Zelensky holds court with Ukraine’s most notorious neo-Nazi, August 16, 2023. Zelensky has been careful not be photographed with Nazis - until a few weeks ago now that Ukraine is flat on its back, and they are the most fanatical fighters. He met with them to give them recognition.

The man is sick. You might as well ask Hitler why he didn't like the Jews, either. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I don't read spurious websites that make up their own BS, and that BS is based off of Russian propaganda used to invade another country. Jews siding with nazis...that is complete and utter BS, and you should know better than that. Karajou (talk) 03:26, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I can't help it. If you wanna crawl in bed with globalists and neocons, that's your business. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:28, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Typical, as well as repeated, response. Because you don't have an answer. Karajou (talk) 04:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Don't have the answer to what? I'll tell you how Ukraine elected a Russian-speaking Jew who now commands Nazi troops if you can tell me how 200+ American patriots are now sitting the DC gulag. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

And the authors you call "spurious" in the links given, are all Jews. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

What do you call a non-spurious website? CNN? The Washington Post? New York Times? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:33, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

More homework: BBC: Canada Nazi row puts spotlight on Ukraine's WWII past. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 05:50, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Extra assignment: Gatewaypundit: “Day of the Dead”: Neo-Nazi Azov Brigade Conducts Torchlight Rallies All Over Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 05:53, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

These guys (Zelensky and the Nazis) hate Russia and the Russians. It's a long history. The only good thing about Russia is, it's a little less corrupt than Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:27, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Zelensky being a Nazi sympathizer has already been added to Conservapedia proven correct. If you have problem with that, take it up it Andy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 05:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Hold up, RobSmith's assertions about Forrestal are incorrect? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 09:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Operation Nightengale. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Here's a better source: The Secret War Against The Jews How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People By John Loftus, Mark Aarons (pg 214. Guess what? pg. 214 is redacted).

Who is John Loftus? THE NAZI CONNECTION 1982 - JOHN LOFTUS ON 60 MINUTES. Loftus was the first head of DOJ's Nazi hunting unit, appointed by Jimmy Carter.

Loftus fits into the Wikipedia:The Daniel Brandt controversy. Daniel Brandt has endorsed my account as most accurate. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

Rosanne Barr recently corroborated Loftus' allegation made in the 60 Minutes interview that Ukrainian Nazis buried children alive to save bullets; 'Bullsh*t!’ Roseanne Barr SCREAMS at Piers Morgan After He Rejects Her Claim Ukraine is Filled With Nazis and Zelensky Isn’t a ‘Good’ Jew, Jul 11th, 2023. Barr breaks down as she recounts how Ukrainian Nazis murdered her family. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:08, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Even if Forrestal's death was not an assassination, it likely could be guilt as he became more familiar with the actions of the Nazis he was funneling US aid and weapons to. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:13, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

One more note: User:Karajou misrepresented facts. Nowhere did I suggest or imply the DOD killed Forrestal. Heck, it could have Mossad or a suicide. Better yet, in 1949 it could have been a communist agent in the US government Joe McCarthy or J. Edgar was looking for. Why does it always fall on me to have to explain these things? Don't you people have any imagination? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I'm sure you know a lot about misrepresentation of facts from personal experience. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 18:22, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Review the links above and then tell me what happened and what's going on. You could do it in under half an hour. You can skip the Wikipedia Brandt controversy cause that's only peripheral to Loftus' credentials.

Basically, the Operation Nightengale link, the 60 Minutes link, and Rosanne Barr link. Should take about half hour. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Frank Wizner is the guy's name in the US government who circumvent all sorts of presidential directives to protect about 2,000 Nazis and resettle them in United States, most in the Midwest & Northeast (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois) and grant them American citizenship. And many cases even jobs.

About 8,000 were resettled in Great Britain under the same program, and 10,000 in Canada.

So that accounts for 20,000 (more than Division strength). All told, there were about 80,000 Ukrainian Waffen SS. In the regular police and Schutzmanshaft, probably over 300,000. And these units served in today's "western Ukraine", Belarus, Lithuania, and Poland. The local Nazis remained in place; the Ukrainian SS units moved with the German army, and saw action in Slovakia, France, and Italy. And that's how they were able to escape to the West, and escape justice in localities where their crimes were committed. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:51, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

So that deals with the question of Ukrainian Waffen SS in the Angelo-American countries. Now we turn to the National Security Act of 1947, creation of the CIA, NSA, and Pentagon, the role of RfE, and CIA/Pentagon joint covert activities funding armed rebellion in the Soviet Union. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:03, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

Socialist movements and antisemitism: a brief review of the history

Hi Karajou, I see you're skeptical of the notion of that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis from the top-down because it's leader happens to be a Jew. Since the question here is whether Zelensky's government can be designated as "National Socialist," I believe it's useful to evaluate the history surrounding socialism and the Jews.

So first of all, Marxism was antisemitic to its core—religiously and economically motivated. (this video sums it up well) Of course, since it was attacking the Jews on basis of religion and economics, rather than "race," ethnic Jews who were "self-hating" and converted from Judaism to Marxism were acceptable, however. That is precisely why there were atheist Jews who became Communists—already disenchanted with Judaism, they were happy to serve the false god Baal- er, I mean, Marx. The Soviet Union's antisemitism was manifested in persecution against religious Jews, prohibiting ritual circumcision. (for more information, see: Antisemitism, atheistic Communism, and penile cancer)

Nazism is an outgrowth strain of Marxism. (see: Communist origins of Nazism) Hitler and his chauffeur Schreck were members of the Communist Bavarian Soviet Republic in the 1910s, and the fuhrer himself admitted that the only difference between Marxism and Nazism was economics vs. race; his own words: "If the National Socialist Movement should fail to understand the fundamental importance of this essential principle [race], if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground." (Mein Kampf, vol. 2, ch. 4)

Marxist antisemitism = religious and economic hatred of Judaism; Nazi antisemitism = ethnic hatred of Jews, period. But again, to socialists, a Jew who converts from Judaism to socialism can be deemed acceptable. Even in the case of the Nazis, Jews who apostatized to openly supporting Nazi ideology were sometimes spared, just as atheistic Communist Jews were spared from Soviet pogroms; this article by Tablet sums it up well. And even as it concerns neo-Nazis too, yes, some turned out to be ethnic Jews.

And to get to the point about Zelensky: does him being an ethnic Jew automatically prove his government isn't Nazi-ridden? From a nuanced historical perspective, no. At the end of the day, he is not a Jewish hero. The evidence of his open collaboration with the far-left, Nazi-aligned paramilitary group Azov Battalion is overwhelming and widely easy to find on the internet. And no, I don't support Putin by any means. I oppose both sides of the war, and see it as a Hegelian deception game to pave the way for a greater, final menace facing humanity soon. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 09:50, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I believe in a thorough research in history; I also believe in taking the word of many professional historians on the subject, as well as with my own eyes. What I'm going to point out and expose is the contemptuous position taken by a fraud, a man who believes there are nazis everywhere. They're in our cities and towns; they're in our farms and fields; they're in our food. Let's pour ourselves a bowl of "Fuhrer Flakes". Why, Billy Bob is jaywalking in French Lick...he's got to be a nazi. Can't visit Frankenmuth, Michigan these days; it's a German/Bavarian town, and therefore nazi.

When you get someone with an attitude like that, when you get someone who complains of nazis everywhere, you don't listen to him at all. You declare him NUTS, and ship him off to the funny farm, because that's where he belongs. Karajou (talk) 13:46, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Fair enough, RobSmith is a complete schizomaniac as it concerns invoking Godwin's Law. My broader point though was that the common "Ukraine can't be Nazi from the top-down since they have a Jewish president" argument doesn't account for whether individual Jews actually do the works of Jews or the works of Baalists. Jewish traitors to their own people definitely exist, and in the case of Zelensky, there are strong indications that he indeed has entrenched connections to extremist Ukrainian ultranationalists who hold Nazi racial viewpoints. For years before the Russo-Ukraine War broke out, the media noted the dangerous presence of neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

But at the end of the day, Putin clearly isn't innocent either. The larger conspiracy is simple: manufacture a "thesis," in this case the globalist/establishment catastrophe in Ukraine that causes misery worldwide when elitist liberal politicians put Ukraine over their own nations, and use the resulting backlash to overthrow the current "Liberal World Order" to establish a New World Order run by the "far-right Christian Nationalists" who create the Antichrist beast system. That is what people need to realize and prepare for. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 15:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

I respect all of you. My two cents if I may...

The link (my friend) LT provided was a one off - case (Burrows) of man bites dog. What is important to realize is, that he rejected his Jewishniess. Now, if Zelansky is still proud of his origins then he is no Nazi. But he can still be blindsided and there are neo Nazi elements in Ukraine, not to mention their history, especially, standing out: WW2 sadistic record. Historian Walter Laqueur explained about those that were ethnically non Jewish but had some percentage of Jews in their ancestors and some of them.served in German army (mainly to save family members or themselves and he also points out the inflated false numbers, and that there were thousands and not hundreds of thousands - simple math), that they did NOT 'feel' they are Jews. Among the Kapos, (which is another issue) there were humane ones and bad ones. The famous holocaust writer Ka-Tsetnik [Yehiel De-Nur], who is not suspected of excessive pro religiously, emphasized that among the Kapos, any religious Jew was in no way counted among their ranks. In all, in terms of WW2, one should not forget, the bigger picture of all squeezed in a box -fighting to survive- by the overall Nazi boot and, that relating to Jews, it was often a matter of life or death in choosing actions. Telling (talk)

<interesting irrelevant factoid> I just found out today Putin's son-in-law is named Zelensky - Igor Zelensky. [4] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:36, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

BTW There are variations of this last name spelling...

Yes. During last year's Polish-Ukrainian reproachment much was made of the Polish president having a Ukrainian name and the Ukrainian president having a Polish name. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:46, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

'Diversity is our strength' - that was Ukraine's motto until they started killing all the Russians, Poles, Jews, Hungarioans, Roma, Slovaks, etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:45, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting details, Telling! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 21:33, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

There is a discussion you might wish to partake in

Please see: Conservapedia:AFD Anti-Putin. MayGodBless (talk) 21:26, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

These "Great Replacement" promulgators are idiots

Andriy Biletsky standing before the Nazi Wolfsangel. [1]

As reported:

When will these morons understand that without Judaism, the West would be reduced to tribalist pagan cults killing each other in endless tirades of moral degeneracy? "Anglo-Saxonism," for example, is pagan. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 18:18, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

As the great Nazi freedom fighter Andriy Biletsky said, the Ukrainian nation's mission is to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans)". [5] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:16, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

So what's your point here? That Western promoters of "Great Replacement" are just like Biletsky? Let's not forget that you yourself promoted that racist theory on MPR last summer, and also defended it from removal when a troll inserted that blather into the mainspace last fall. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 19:21, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

Put down the crack pipe, son. You're the one shilling for US taxpayer support of Biletsky and his movement. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:23, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

You're the one who denies that Nazis are socialist (in effect denying the Holocaust by refusing to admit its ideological origins), that there are Nazis on Putin's side, and who defended white supremacist propaganda last year. It's all recorded in the revision histories. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 19:26, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

Oh really? You wanna sees diffs from Wikipedia in discussion with a British historian PhD when I was among one of a few driving exposure of the facts that had been denied and covered up, continuing for 15 years after the Cold War ended? My view, and others, is now mainstream. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:30, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

My view of national socialism, which I described years later in Rationalwiki as "a collectivist view of race" has been picked by others and also is being articulated in mainstream outlets. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:36, October 6, 2023 (EDT)