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Malcolm X's killers to be "exonerated"

Malcolm X assassins Muhammad Aziz and Khalil Islam are expected to be "exonerated" after fifty years, based on a 2020 Netflix documentary.[1] Does that sound like a hokey reason? They were both released back in the 1980s. Islam died in 2009, but Aziz is still alive. At least until recently, the smart money figured that these killers worked for Louis Farrakhan. He was the guy with the most to benefit. He certainly has a lot more clout these days than Malcolm X or his survivors do.

As near as I can tell, exoneration is not a thing that New York courts actually do. The Innocence Project has proclaimed various people to be exonerated. The New York Times goes along with that. The rest of the media follows the NYT. This article says that the two convictions will be "vacated" by Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance. That's a little different, isn't it? PeterKa (talk) 23:51, November 17, 2021 (EST)

In extreme leftist New York, it's not surprising that people and the media think a prosecutor has the authority or power of a judge, governor, or president. All it probably really means is Vance ordered much of the trial and investigative records and evidence destroyed so historians searching the archives will never discover the truth. IOWs, even though the two may really be guilty, there may have been some shenanigans like illegal wiretaps and he's trying to cover up Manhattan DA institutional sloppiness and frame up. And of course it's politically motivated to appeal to a segment of black voters. The perps become victims and heroes. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:15, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Then once Malcolm X & his killers get exonerated, the blame gets leveled at a dead white guy, J. Edgar Hoover to support the theory of institutional racism. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:35, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Louis X, now Louis Farrakhan, was the No. 2 Black Muslim preacher at that time. He figured that if Malcolm was out of the way, he'd move up to the No. 1 slot. So he gave a speech about Malcolm and said "This is a man who deserves to die." Islam and Aziz may have thought that Farrakhan was talking to them. PeterKa (talk) 12:38, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Yes, that's the narrative I've understood since the Clinton era, when Obama was cutting his teeth as a Million Man March organizer. From the Nixon era the story was always J. Edgar & the CIA bumped him off. It looks like a reversal back to the original pre-reactionary Clinton era narrative which has an archival record. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:55, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Coincidence? Daughter of Malcolm X Malikah Shabazz Found Dead in Brooklyn Home. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:56, November 24, 2021 (EST)

Youngkin won't fight mandates

VA Gov-elect Glenn Youngkin is now saying that while he won't issue any state mask/jab mandates, he's not going to fight mandates issued by the local level [2] [3]. ¿Puedes decir "decepción"? Vince Did 7-14 (talk) 10:58, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Why? It's a local issue. There is no reason to impose the Florida model on Virginia. The only worry is having Merrick Garland's goons showing up at city council meetings to harass and arrest anti-maskers. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 11:35, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Such a statement posted above stems from not understanding conservativism. Conservatives do not believe in "one size fits all" solutions. "Organizing," which is common to leftism, and troll bait such as "unite the right" is a dead giveaway of leftist subversion. Like the differences between men and women, leftists and conservatives simply do not think alike, which is a mistake leftist subversives repeatedly make about conservatives, conservative values, and conservative perspectives. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:28, November 18, 2021 (EST)

I wholeheartedly agree. Both instituting and prohibiting mask mandates at the statewide level is a sign of big government, which conservatives should oppose. Given that some localities may be hit with COVID-19 harder than others, mask mandates absolutely should be a local issue. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 19:28, November 21, 2021 (EST)

In De Santis case, he took it a step farther, he sues county, municipal, and school boards that impose mandates - but he didn't run on such a platform. Neither did Youngkin. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 11:52, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Biden nominates shoplifter and "Lenin scholar" to banking position

Biden's nominee for the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency is a Kazakh and shoplifter who graduated from Moscow State University on a Vladimir Lenin Academic Scholarship. See "Biden Nom Saule Omarova Stole Hundreds of Dollars of Merchandise From a T.J. Maxx." As head of OCC, Omarova would supervise 65 percent of U.S. banking assets. Oh, by the way, she wants to bankrupt U.S. energy companies to "tackle climate change."[4] Once Marxists claimed to be doing it for the "working class." Now they want to throw everyone out of work to feed the green monster. PeterKa (talk) 11:45, November 18, 2021 (EST)

When people ask, "Who's pulling the strings behind Biden?", I think you seriously have to look at Susan Rice, Neera Tanden, in consultation with Anita Dunn. And this one, Saule Omarova will deserve its own bio page if Manchin or Sinema let her nomination go. Tracy Stone-Manning was shocking enough (among dozens of other CCP operatives in lesser posts, as well). But there should be no question whatsoever now that the DNC, Congressional Dems, and the Biden regime are full on Marxists and communists. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:42, November 18, 2021 (EST)

It seems that the energy industry has survived another day: "Scoop: Centrist Dems sink Biden’s nominee for top bank regulator." Three Dems on the banking committee, namely Jon Tester of Montana, Mark Warner of Virginia, and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, got Omarova's nomination scotched. PeterKa (talk) 19:59, November 24, 2021 (EST)

We've reached a turning point; 5 Dems have the cahooines to oppose communism. This will be fun to watch, putting a band aid on a rift as wide as the Grand Canyon. But we don't have to do anything, cause (according to User:Conservative), there is going to be a gigantic Red Wave anyway. Democrats would never unite to resolve their differences to prevent the racist Republicans from winning. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 11:58, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Vaccine mandates and the public support of Americans

Americans very slightly favor vaccine mandates for companies of 100+ or more - like 49% for and 47% against.[5]

I am still for vaccine mandates, but realistically I don't think they will happen on a wide scale in the USA. Americans are very independent people and many embrace "rugged individualism". And there isn't strong enough support for vaccine mandates. I always thought that vaccine mandates would be a long shot of passing in the USA.

America is going to have to deal with Covid-19 longer than I had hoped it would.

That is why I wrote on the main page the below info:

"The world might be 18 months from vaccine boosters not having an appreciable effect anymore as far as the current Covid-19 vaccines that are on the market.[6] Diet, exercise and maintaining a healthy weight will increasingly be an important means of preventing severe Covid-19.[7][8][9]

With the Biden Administration facing multiple big problems such as inflation, supply chain problems and a border crisis, it is increasingly looking like the Biden Administration will lose the war on Covid-19. Don't expect something akin to Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed." Conservative (talk) 01:23, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Any company that thinks they can force vaccines needs to prepare for lawsuits and damages. They don't have the criminal Biden junta backing them up. Or maybe even the courts.

Let's say a company attempts to impose mandatory vaccines, and a worker has an adverse reaction and dies or is seriously harmed, or receives a breakthrough case on the job after vaccination. Can the company be sued? Is the company liable? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:45, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Can Congress pass a law relieving the employer or health insurer from liability? Can Congress pass such a law without a religious exemption? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:49, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Vaccine mandates will happen in some American hospitals and nursing homes. They will also happen in some woke American corporations.

There is no Biden junta. Conservative (talk) 02:22, November 19, 2021 (EST)

There you go again with your CCP/DNC/MSM talking points. Man, do they ever have you brainwashed. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 12:05, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Anti-vaccine semtiment in Germany and opposition to vaccine mandates

I was surprised that anti-vaccine opposition in Germany is as strong as it is.[10][11] I forgot about the German character trait of stubbornness.[12]

I found out that Germany's rules on Covid-19 laws is a patchwork of local laws. I was under the impression that once Germany's central government imposed laws on the Germans that the rule/order loving Germans would follow the laws. But I was obviously wrong about this matter. Conservative (talk) 01:23, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Ah, no. That went out with Hitler and the Third Reich. German's are now a rehabilitated freedom loving people who take their responsibility as citizens extremely seriously, probably more than any other nation in the world of its size or larger. They understand how the average citizen can be held responsible for the crimes of a government they elected. They diligently avoid the tyranny of the majority, and respect the rights of the minority, like anti-vaxxers. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:35, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Germans still love rules/order.[13] It is a cultural trait that is not going away anytime soon. The Swiss love rules too (part of Switzerland speaks German). My friend said that he didn't see any jaywalking in Switzerland when he visited there. Conservative (talk) 02:26, November 19, 2021 (EST)

You should see The Lives of Others, which Bill Buckley called the best movie he ever saw. The director opposed allowing the East German Communist Party into the German parliament. In this scene, the former communist Minister of Culture laments his loss of power. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:21, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Salt Bae and To Lam

What can you do after an exhausting climate summit in Glasgow? If you are To Lam, Vietnam's police chief, you head off to London and eat some delicious gold encrusted steak served by celebrity chef Salt Bae. It's only $2,000 a steak, equivalent to Vietnam's average annual wage. I'm sure they talked about eliminating beef and reducing carbon emissions while they ate it. To Lam's reported salary is $660 a month. He is No. 10 in the hierarchy of the Vietnamese Communist party. See "‘Communist’ Vietnamese minister eats gold encrusted steak." PeterKa (talk) 19:27, November 19, 2021 (EST)

See? Communism really does work...for the bosses.

Obama said at Glasgow, "Since we're in the Emerald Isle here, let me quote the bard, William Shakespeare..." Andrew Klavan: "Of course the Emerald Isle this Ireland, Glasgow is in Scotland, and Shakespeare was from England, all of which Obama apparently forgot to fact check..." RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:36, November 20, 2021 (EST)

He thinks that Scotland is an island, although he was speaking in Scotland at the time? Or did he think he was speaking in Ireland? Or perhaps England? The man's ignorance knows no bounds. In 2015, Obama told us that his parents met on the Selma march, which happened when he was three.[14] (They actually met while taking Russian together at the University of Hawaii.) It is one of his biggest, best remembered speeches. PeterKa (talk) 12:43, November 20, 2021 (EST)

This I would attribute to a staff speech writer. IOWs, nothing much has changed since he left the White House. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:13, November 20, 2021 (EST)

Biden and various other American politicians make a fuss about their Irish ancestry. To Obama, one country of white people is pretty much the same as another. PeterKa (talk) 15:32, November 22, 2021 (EST)

True, very true. Of course now they want to re-categorize the "Aryan" tribes of Afghanistan [15] as "people of color." RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:00, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Rittenhouse acquited

Rule of law took a beating in the Derek Chauvin case back in April. But has it has emerged triumphant with the Rittenhouse acquittal. Here is Babylon Bee`s take: "Media Found Guilty On All Counts."

Come to think of it, this one was too close for comfort. Jurors shouldn't have to put their lives or livelihoods on the line. Trials should be videotaped and then shown to the jury in closed session. Aside from being quicker and more secure, this would improve fairness since a judge could remove prejudicial remarks from the tape before showing it to the jury.

Update Here is another great Babylon Bee take on Rittenhouse: "The Chosen One: 10 Little-Known Facts About Modern-Day Legend Kyle Rittenhouse." PeterKa (talk) 20:16, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Joe Biden is walking back his endorsement of the judicial system already, De Blasio is is fanning the flames of racial violence. But this meme is pretty cool. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:19, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Now, I believe Rittenhouse's actions technically upheld the Enforcement Act of 1871? The law prohibits going "in disguise upon the public highway or upon the premises of another" to deprive of equal protection under the law. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Saturday, 21:14, November 19, 2021 (EST)

That's federal legislation. Nadler is asking Garland to review. [16] We have to wait and see if Garland is stupid enough to stick his nose into something where he has absolutely no jurisdiction. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:35, November 19, 2021 (EST)

As a matter of record, the Rittenhouse case (a) has absolutely nothing to do with race; and (b) Rittenhouse has absolutely nothing to do with any organized group (other than the Antioch Volunteer Fire Dept.). So I don't see where the question would even apply. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 22:45, November 19, 2021 (EST)

Why is crossing state lines a problem when crossing national borders is no big deal? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:33, November 20, 2021 (EST

Revisiting the Hong Kong protests

The situation in Belarus has been making me think about what happened in Hong Kong two years ago. Could that too have been an attempted CIA/Deep State color revolution?--Geopolitician (talk) 14:58, November 20, 2021 (EST)

Huh? What similarities do you see between the two? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:07, November 20, 2021 (EST)

For a while now, I've been of the opinion that the Hong Kong protests (much like the protests in Belarus) were an attempted CIA/Deep State color revolution. If that's true, then perhaps I should reconsider my opinion regarding the origin of COVID. Perhaps it was a CCP bioweapon after all, and it was unleashed in retaliation for Hong Kong?--Geopolitician (talk) 15:20, November 20, 2021 (EST)

Yes, there is evidence of CIA involvement in a Belarus coup, but none in Hong Kong. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:28, November 20, 2021 (EST)

The evidence of a CIA coup in Hong Kong is the fact that there were agitators waving American flags in the streets and publicly calling for the US to send troops and "liberate" Hong Kong, presumably by force.[17] And then there was the fact that protest leaders were meeting with US diplomats at the height of the crisis.[18]--Geopolitician (talk) 17:46, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Here's a Reddit post containing a much larger set of sources, to make it easier for you to do your own research on this matter.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:46, November 21, 2021 (EST)

The genetic engineering work in Wuhan was financed by NIH and other American sources. There also a military section of the lab. Nobody seems to know what that was up to. The news stories about genetic engineering in Wuhan all relate to civilian research. I assume Peter Daszak and others had had a financial interest in potential vaccines makers. PeterKa (talk) 16:24, November 20, 2021 (EST)

Since implementation of the 13th Five Year Plan in 2018, there is no distinction between civilian and military in China anymore. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:01, November 20, 2021 (EST)

Newsflash: And the above link is evidence the CCP is already mobilized for total war. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 12:34, November 28, 2021 (EST)

It's undeniable what China is preparing for. Nonetheless, even in total war there should be a military-civilian distinction.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:56, December 1, 2021 (EST)

Democrats, abandon all hope

It's already too late for future economy improvements to save Democrats in the 2022 midterms.[19]

"When people become conditioned to recession, unemployment, and inflation, it often takes a full two years for voters to notice it has fully ended. You could have the inflation rate fall to zero tomorrow, and people two years from now will still be complaining about inflation." - Brian Riedl, a budget expert at the Manhatten Institute.

"A Washington Post/ABC News poll last weekend showed Republicans in the strongest position on this measure in the poll’s four-decade history. On Thursday, a poll from Quinnipiac University of registered voters said 46 percent wanted G.O.P. control of the House, compared with 41 percent for Democrats." - New York Times, November 18, 2021

A gigantic big red wave of biblical proportions is heading towards the 2022 midterm elections.

3 reasons why Patriots are becoming the center of the new political Universe!

Democrats, abandon all hope. Conservative (talk) 12:53, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Before you run off with anymore of this Red Wave crap, you need to read this article line by line, word for word. Thanks. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 05:46, November 29, 2021 (EST)

What is the purpose of discussion?

I have requested that Essay's not be posted on MPR, or at least some discussion should occur first. Likewise I have requested that non-news items and psychic premonitions about the 2022 elections also not be posted. What is the response? You spit in my eye. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:09, November 21, 2021 (EST)`

Let's take the meme on MPL, for example. IMO, this is not a time to gloat. Kyle Rittenhouse will speak to Tucker Carlson tomorrow night. CP should afford Rittenhouse the respect of waiting to hear his sentiments. What if Rittenhouse has no such gloating attitude, and the img turns out to be a rebuke of Conservapedia? Our job is not to turn Rittenhouse into something that he is not - which is precisely what the leftist media is guilty of. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:50, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Kyle Rittenhouse was the victim of the misuse of the judicial system by making it a political trial. While in private we can laugh at that meme, it sends conflicting signals about the fundamental issues in the Rittenhouse case. If you have something to say about the Rittenhouse case, it should be added to the Rittenhouse article, not anecdotally to the Main Page to misrepresent a conservative position on what the Rittenhouse case is all about. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:08, November 21, 2021 (EST)

I had planned to have the Kyle Rittenhouse pic posted on main page left for a limited period today. Like after I sent someone an email about Operation Flying Fortresses (2022 is going to be the WORST year in the history of atheism). I just sent that email so I pulled down the pic.

Some events are so important and have such a strong possibility of happening that it is worth predicting them to occur on main page right. Why? The page Conservapedia proven right is very popular with our audience and with Andy (Some of the items of Conservapedia proven right is Conservapedia making accurate predictions). Also, it gives proof that conservatives are among the best of the public who have insight on what is going to happen in the future!

Lastly, mocking is a tradition among believers. :) Elijah mocked the prophets of Baal for example. :) David told the world that "He who sits in the heavens laughs". (Derisive laughter) Conservative (talk) 16:27, November 21, 2021 (EST)

The situation is too fluid. It's still early. We are nowhere near a conclusion of the matter. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:15, November 22, 2021 (EST)

• Joe Biden's approval ratings are worse than every recent president -- except 1 -- at this stage, CNN

• Joe Biden appproval/disapproval numbers - historic graph - the approval trend is down and heading lower.

• How low will Biden go?, CNN

Covid-19 is expected to get worse over the winter. His vaccine mandate will probably fail, but even if it goes forward many people will hate him for it. The only thing he has going for him as far as the pandemic is the Merck antiviral, and the U.S. population is building up immunity, etc.

Watch what happens when people are missing things for their Thanksgiving/Christmas celebrations due to supply chain problems and they spend a fortune getting to a relative's house due to high gas prices. The suburban moms will hold it against him.

On top of this, there will be more state election audits which will be more fodder for those who declare that Biden stole the election.

Biden could potentially go into the low 30s and even 20s as far as his approval numbers. Conservative (talk) 05:12, November 22, 2021 (EST)

As far as his massive social spending and global warming alarmist bill, Joe Biden Faces Tougher Sell to West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin as Coal Hits 12-Year High.[20]

Stick a fork in Joe Biden. He's done. Conservative (talk) 05:26, November 22, 2021 (EST)

You make precisely my point. The Rittenhouse verdict is a legal issue, not a political issue. The ONLY political issue involved is American law vs. Socialist law, which you totally obfuscate and ignore, which does not inform our readers. 11:38, November 22, 2021 (EST)``

As to a fluid situation, Waukesha is the Reddest city of its size or larger in America. A BLM racist in Milwaukee in retaliation for the Rittenhouse verdict decided to use the ISIS-recommended tactic of killing white children with a vehicle. Do not expect local law enforcement, the FBI, prosecutors, the governor or liberal media to report the facts. Again, this is not the time to gloat. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 11:52, November 22, 2021 (EST)

I am not going to further comment on the Rittenhouse issue. I will let the matter filter through the legal system. For example, Kyle Rittenhouse possibly doing defamation suits, etc. (Joe Biden called him a "white supremacist" while he was running for POTUS). Conservative (talk) 12:27, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Kyle Rittenhouse supports BLM. See what you've done now, going off half-cocked? In addition to sounding like the liberal media by making Rittenhouse be something that he is not, you've effectively killed any political capital coming out of the story. 12:37, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Mark Richards, who represented Mr Rittenhouse at trial, told Insider: Don Jr. is "an idiot. I don’t have to expand on that because it speaks for itself.” So now what you have effectively done is walk into a trap and create a new unnecessary problem for the conservative movement, whereas you've had 14 months to work on and establish the facts and avoid misstatements. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:33, November 22, 2021 (EST)

So how are people supposed to react? You tell them it is a moment of victory and celebration at the precise moment their 5-year-old daughters and grandmothers are the targets of racist attacks. No wonder people are whip-sawed into confusion. 14:35, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Let's stick with what we know here. Atheism, evolution, and the homosexual agenda is what you know, politics is what I know. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:40, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Did Rittenhouse say he supported the organization "Black Lives Matter", or did he say he supported the concept of "Black lives do matter?" There's a distinction between the two, and helps to sort them out. I myself support black lives, think they matter, just as much as any and all people, but I DO NOT support the organization Black Lives Matter. If you try to claim he supported the organization and not just the concept when in reality he didn't support the organization, only the concept, you yourself come across as a leftist trying to blur stuff, and comes across as extremely irresponsible. In fact, just as irresponsible as you're claiming Conservative of being. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:45, November 26, 2021 (EST)

His media people coached him, and I'm sure he'll say the concept when asked. And who in the United States is better suited to force front and center a debate about the difference between the concept, and an organization staffed by white racists, ex-cons, anti-police convicted felons, pedophiles, domestic abusers, and people who seek to murder in the streets anyone who opposes them? And why is the organization in bed with these peolple? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 09:45, November 26, 2021 (EST)

I'm pretty sure the leftist dominated media would be far more interested in trying to demonize him and claim the verdict was made out of racism rather than actually coach him to get back into society. Let's not forget plenty of leftist celebrities are literally calling out the verdict, some even implying that the JUDGE acted out of racism, and the media also claimed he was "acquitted of murder" fairly recently by implying he got away with premeditated murder. In fact, just as an example: https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/11/25/star-trek-host-wil-wheaton-claims-kyle-rittenhouses-judge-schroeder-has-a-racist-little-white-nationalist-heart/ The media today is NOT about objectivity (if it ever was objective to begin with, as Walter Lippmann apparently intended for so-called "objective journalism" to be an up and out pass to literally lie through their teeth to their readers and manipulate them.). Pokeria1 (talk) 09:53, November 26, 2021 (EST)

There's been much talk and criticism about Rittenhouse's media consultant, John Hancock, although the criticism of Kyle's legal team has abated. But some still say he should have fired Hancock along with Pierce and Lin Wood. Now the white supremacist smear is on the Yang Gang, so yah, the MSM will try to forget Rittenhouse like they have Darrell Brooks (which is likely Hancock's strategy to win obscurity. An innocent man should not have to change his name.) The way to test out the Yang Gang theory is to look at Yang's views on the Second Amendment. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:32, November 26, 2021 (EST)

As to your lengthy Essay about Biden inflation and the 2022 elections - we know all that, our readers know all that. It's all been headlined many many times over many months. Yet there it is, taking up space that could otherwise be used to inform our readers on current issues and facts. It directly contradicts the day's current news. Fear sells, not your incessant "Rah rah shish boom bah," proven to be ignorant of facts. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:49, November 22, 2021 (EST)

As to your rebuttal, The page Conservapedia proven right is very popular with our audience and with Andy (Some of the items of Conservapedia proven right is Conservapedia making accurate predictions). To be statistically accurate, you'd also have to measure the times CP was proven wrong, and then determine the net positive or negative (for example, your Main Page Essay spouting CCP propaganda that covid came from eating bats). Bottomline, a prediction needs to be posted only once, and not your stale, recycled cheerleading that obscures current issues and facts our readers need. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:58, November 22, 2021 (EST)

In that instance, I had collected all the facts by mid-March 2020 that covid likely came from a lab leak, but you had poisoned the well for our readers with CCP fake news narratives, keeping our readers in the dark for more than a year. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:54, November 23, 2021 (EST)

And, might I add, your espousal and defense of Communist Chinese narratives and talking points, like here in the Rittenhouse case and Biden's poll numbers, was extraordinarily ill-timed. You need to simply refrain from posting on certain subjects until you can demonstrate a modicum of expertise in that area.

Right now we are attempting to get NYT, WaPo and the Pulitzer committee to walk back five years of its lies, fake news, and reporting on Russiagate; to avoid the charge of hypocrisy, CP should be held to the same standard. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:43, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Bottomline: You keep telling readers with your Red Wave essays, "Everything is OK! Everything is OK!," and everything is NOT OK. We need a call to action NOW, not in November 2022. And your Red Wave premonitions negate the efforts to get people involved NOW in current vital issues. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:28, November 24, 2021 (EST)

As I said earlier, speak for yourself. If anything, the Red Wave premonitions is encouraging me to find a metaphorical hose to turn the red wave into a red tsunami, basically increase the odds in our favor. Besides, the fact that Virginia's Democrat candidate completely lost the election DESPITE extensive voter fraud in his favor indicates the tide is turning against the left anyways. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:40, November 26, 2021 (EST)

We need factual, informative news. For example, there's more repetitive news about Biden's approval - we don't need that. Thinking a November 2021 poll in Michigan has any meaning to the November 2024 general election is patently ridiculous. Remember, GOP candidates, at every level, every October in every election year roundly say, "polls are meaningless", so this reporting on overall polls number, 3 and 4 times a week, is just absurd.

Now, if you wish to headline polls numbers, do so specifically on a demographic breakdown that is relevant and touches on other issues we are developing, report “The drop in approval is greatest among Black/African-American voters, moving from 72% approval in February to 52% approval in November,”, but that was ignored because of this redundant reporting on a 38% overall average. And it certainly was a bigger news item than restating again and again Biden's overall approval rating. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 09:25, November 26, 2021 (EST)

First of all, I can't speak for Conservative, but I never referenced polls. I if anything referenced the actual election results in Virginia that if anything backed UP the whole Red Wave narrative since the guy REALLY went all out on voter fraud to ensure his win and yet he STILL ended up losing (and it apparently being a landslide loss even WITH the voter fraud). And while polls may be meaningless ESPECIALLY after how the left ruined them by attacking voters by 2016, the actual election results most certainly AREN'T meaningless. Second of all, going by one of the MPR topics, even a leftist rag like Newsweek is now admitting that Trump if anything WON those swing states, meaning they just tacitly admitted to stealing the election. Pokeria1 (talk) 09:36, November 26, 2021 (EST)

I think you miss the point, too. Anyway, now that Biden just reinstated Remain in Mexico, his poll numbers will rise before the big anticipated Red Wave. He's being responsive and responsible to voters. So what are you going to harp on now repeatedly, having squandered the opportunity to inform voters on facts and issues? Biden's rising poll numbers and maybe the big wave won't be so big after all?

This is only the first reversal of course, and we have a year to go yet. He's got plenty of tricks up his sleeves to win popular approval. And you have done nothing to prepare voters for that, squandering the time with psychic premonitions. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:58, November 26, 2021 (EST)

We'll see. Biden is still doubling down on Rittenhouse, however, and I'm extremely doubtful that throwing the occasional bone to conservatives is going to keep him in office. Bush throwing the bone to liberals with his infamous reversal of his no new taxes slogan certainly didn't endear him enough to voters to keep him in even without Ross Perot. What makes you think that him maybe giving enough support to the wall to slightly increase his poll approval ratings would have him win 2024? Besides, I never said it was guaranteed that there would be a Red Wave. I think the fact that I said I'd use a metaphorical hose to turn it into a red tsunami should be a pretty big hint that if anything I DON'T view it as guaranteed. That said, however, the fact that the Virginia governor lost even with voter fraud on his side should be a pretty big hint that we might at least have a chance at reversing the trend for them. Pokeria1 (talk) 16:18, November 26, 2021 (EST)

Remain in Mexico popularity is mainstream, not (just) a conservative issue. Next he can take Manchin's advice and reopen the Keystone XL pipeline, to quiet criticism from Democrats. As to a Red Wave or Red Tsunami, as November 2022 approaches and it doesn't appear as easy or attainable as User:Conservaitve has built it up over the past months, will have a demoralizing effect on conservative and conservative leaning voters. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:32, November 26, 2021 (EST)

There's an old saying, "Never count your chickens before they hatch," yet despite being asked to discuss first, he just continues posting occultic premonitions week after week. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:43, November 26, 2021 (EST)

MPR should be used properly to build narratives

For example, on Sunday I posted this:

• "Black nationalist Darrell Brooks, the accused in the post-Rittenhouse verdict slaughter of 5 people..."

On Tuesday Tucker Carlson opened his show with this:

• "a black nationalist BLM supporter drove an SUV through a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin. It was a slaughter.”

Now, I could have used "black supremacist", "racist anti-Semite", etc., all of which would be justifiable. MSM, other than Tucker, will not do that. In fact, as Tucker points out MSM will try to bury this story. It is CP's responsibility to keep it alive, and not recycle CCP narratives or MSM polling data that we all are spoon fed anyway. Hence, the vital importance of discussion and collaboration.

Let's take the case of Vladimir Zelenko. Conservapedia and User:Conservative in particular, can and should rightly take credit for helping to make Dr. Zelenko's name a household word. This morning, Gatewaypundit published this: EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Dr. Zelenko to The Gateway Pundit: CDC’s Response to COVID-19 “A Crime Against Humanity. Mass Murder. And Genocide…”. Yet there is no interest or follow-up at CP. Lesson's learned: when an editor chooses to post on a subject, they need to be committed to follow up as the story develops. No news story or headline exists in a vacuum. We have far too much an anecdotal approach, both to MPR headlines, and worse, adding content to articles. Open discussion, focusing on improvement in writing skills and objectives, is the only way to approach and solve these problems. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:47, November 24, 2021 (EST)

Duh, wud I tell ya? Rittenhouse supported a Democrat in 2020. [21] We need to stop this instinctive "shoot from the hip" reaction to MSM reporting and coordinate more on what CP MPR editorial stance is. I put 14 months labor into the Rittenhouse case, and it was wiped out in a moment. Likewise the 'covid comes from eating bats' hung out there for a year, whereas the facts of the covid crisis have been posted in various articles and timelines since the winter of 2020 with no MPR links to it cause of a faulty editorial policy. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:10, November 25, 2021 (EST)

To be fair, the fact that Rittenhouse voted democrat and the MSM villified him as a far right nutcase would actually work to our favor of discrediting the leftist-dominated MSM, so there actually IS a pretty sensible approach in this case to what you call "gloating." It's sort of like how Disney threw Last Man Standing under the bus even though its creators were liberal, or similar treatment to the guys who created Path to 9/11. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:35, November 26, 2021 (EST)

Rittenhouse has professional media people handling him (IOWs, I think many of these statements coming out of his mouth are not necessarily expressions of his own views, rather part of media strategy to re-integrate him back into society). When he speaks himself, he sometimes makes big errors, for example defaming Lin Wood while complaining about Biden defaming him. But he's a kid thrust into this role and still learning. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 08:53, November 26, 2021 (EST)

As I mentioned above, the leftist-dominated media is more likely to shun him from society even AFTER the confirmed verdict proving his innocence than to ever reintegrate him into society. You place too much trust in the leftist media based on that remark. Pokeria1 (talk) 16:20, November 26, 2021 (EST)

The Yang Gang strategy is brilliant. Now people will ask, How can supporters of a Chinese American be white supremacists?, shedding light on discrimination in Affirmative Action programs against Asians and Black on Asian crime. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:56, November 26, 2021 (EST)

AOC 2024

AOC turns 35 on October 13, 2024, making her eligible to run for president in the 2024 election. If she runs, I am sure she will have the media in her corner. When your choices are Biden, Harris, or Buttigieg, AOC just makes sense. Even Biden's own press secretary is throwing him under the bus as a racist and a sexist, or at least that's how I am interpreting this: "Psaki says racism, sexism ‘absolutely’ behind Kamala Harris criticism." I am looking forward to an AOC versus Tulsi Gabbard nomination contest. Whether Tulsi has a chance or not, she is our best-looking national leader. PeterKa (talk) 19:18, November 21, 2021 (EST)

And it seems that Psaki is also calling Jill Biden a racist. [22] So the Dems are eating their own now! —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 19:25, November 21, 2021 (EST)

The electable Democrats in terms of just their primary have moved enough to the left that it is just a matter of degree on how bad they are. Kamala Harris would be a train wreck and she is unelectable for POTUS position. Biden might be unelectable too for POTUS position at this point. Ramussen says Trump has a 51% approval of likely voters and he outranks Biden in a Biden vs. Trump poll. Conservative (talk) 19:34, November 21, 2021 (EST)

With the polls the way they are now, it's possible that neither Biden nor Harris will run in 2024. "A November 19 poll by Redfield & Wilton Strategies has Donald Trump beating President Biden by 44 to 39 and beating Vice President Kamala Harris by 45 to 36."[23] It seems that rioters, trannies, and illegal immigrants are not an election winning majority after all. You have to go back to Andrew Johnson in the 1860s to find an example of a president who was so quickly and comprehensively rejected by the American public. PeterKa (talk) 11:10, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Spanberger may get ousted in 2022

[24] Last year, Abigail Spanberger was only re-elected narrowly, and VA-7 is a swing district. Given the likelihood of a red wave next year, I'd say a Youngkin-style Republican candidate should be able to win the race in the 2022 midterms. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 19:31, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Robert F. O'Rourke all but ensures his defeat already!

Beto, who's running for Governor of Texas, doubles down on his gun-grabbing stance. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 19:39, November 21, 2021 (EST)

Biden promises to let taxpayers pay for gasoline they already purchased

[25] No impact on prices expected. [26] Last I looked, 50 million barrels is less than two days supply. Maybe I'm wrong. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:24, November 23, 2021 (EST)

Best yet, all OPEC needs to do is cut its production by 50 million barrels to maintain high prices. Like a bump in a rug, you press down in one spot and it pops up in another. This is what happens when you let socialist idiots get in control of the economy. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:28, November 23, 2021 (EST)

The Department of Energy will release 50 million barrels of oil in an attempted to reduce energy prices ahead of the holiday season.[27] The recent spike in oil prices is a predictable result of Biden banning fracking on federal land and closing down pipelines. My interpretation is that Biden is all for higher energy prices. The nomination of Omarova as OCC chief makes it hard to conclude anything else. At the same time, he is using this token measure to try to shift the blame. PeterKa (talk) 19:49, November 23, 2021 (EST)

DOE Commissar Granholm doesn't know how many barrels the US uses daily, either. Last I looked years ago before energy independence it was 40 million barrels a day in the winter and 50 million barrels daily in the summer. With more fuel-efficient vehicles, it is my understanding those figures are marginally lower. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:34, November 23, 2021 (EST)

TimCast just reported 18.5 barrels daily, or two and one-half days, and OPEC has already cut back. The point is moot, other than a Democrat talking point for Democrat idiots come election time. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:46, November 23, 2021 (EST)

Is the Biden junta a cult?

[28] "I- I will have to circle back with you with a precise number." In this instance at a Senate hearing, it's not Psaki who uses that phrase, rather Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Wednesday, 19:56, November 23, 2021 (EST)

Dems lost Virginia due to covid-related school closings

School policy on covid was a more emotional issue for parents than either wokeness or CRT: "School Closures Drove Suburban Biden Voters to Youngkin, Focus Group Finds." School children are the demographic that is least vulnerable to covid. Yet teacher's unions could present a year-long paid vacation for themselves as a way of protecting children. PeterKa (talk)

The teacher's unions continue to hold the Dems in a death grip: "Biden admin proposes removing Trump-era data collection on sexual assaults committed by teachers." Anyone terminated for sexual assault will be able to move to another state and get a teaching job. Woohoo! Pedophiles first, America last. PeterKa (talk) 21:14, November 23, 2021 (EST)

There have been something like 12,000 pedo priests since 1950, while at least 15,000 pedo public school teachers a year. Tell me where the scandal is? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:26, November 23, 2021 (EST)

I know quite a number of people who can attest firsthand that school closings were disastrous for education. Particularly for high schools, many normally bright and beaming teenagers could not learn, absorb, and retain content primarily because online Zoom classes were too easy to disregard. And then the habits induced by online learning cause the shift into a more "normal" school school year difficult to adjust towards. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Wednesday, 21:51, November 23, 2021 (EST)