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Project 2025 is a load of Communist idiocy

What difference at this point does it make? [1]

Long story short: it is a blueprint for reviving Papal-Caesarist ideology of theistic, Nazarene Communism, considering the religious credentials of Heritage Foundation head Kevin Roberts. The present Hegelian conflict between the economically socialist progressive left and Orange Bolshevist (Trumpist) "far right" will lead to a synthesis that is none other than the reactionary, Communistic, wealth-distributing thievery of Jesuitism. (see E. M. Josephson, "The Federal Reserve Conspiracy & Rockefellers," p. 3)

"Right-wing" Trumpism = Bolshevist Communism. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 12:16, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

"Orange Bolshevist" LOL. Problem here is, from a narrative engineering POV is, it gets confused with Orange color revolution. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

What difference at this point does it make? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 18:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

Why would the "toss-Biden-under-the-bus" effort be directly connected to Russia?

At the end of the day, Biden is a stooge taking orders from his Jesuit/Knights of Malta–controlled bosses. No matter which establishment politician rules, the U.S. will inevitably be hawkishly anti-Russia and pro-Ukronazi. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 21:42, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

The current bout of Russophobia in The Blob is just a hiccup in US-Russian relations ever since Moscow sent leftist dominance of their country packing. Things will return to its natural state of friendship once we in America get these leftist and neocon pro-LGBT warmongers under control (you too, User:Conservative). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:09, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

Well, it's too bad that Mango Caesar will turn America into a theistic, "Nazrene" Communist hellhole, aka installing the final form of Revelation's second beast/False Prophet which enforces the mark of the beast. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 22:13, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

What have you been smoking? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:14, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

It's really not that that hard to understand, RobSmith: Trump was trained at the Jesuit-controlled Fordham University and mentored by 33rd-degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peale, who taught Mango Caesar to worship himself. Go back and read Rev. 13-19: the second beast/False Prophet, aka the United States, enforces the dogmas of the first beast/Antichrist, aka the Vatican, to bring about the mark of the beast. Trump's agenda is guaranteed to usher in the Christian Nationalist agenda of Project 2025 which promises to enact a Sunday Law; and one of its chief leaders, Kevin Roberts, is a right-wing Catholic theocrat. Now, Catholic social teaching = Nazarene Communism (Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Rerum Novarum is basically just the Communist Manifesto), so Catholic theocracy = theistic-reactionary Communist tyranny. Anyways, as to the Sunday Law, it is the Vatican's self-professed "mark" of authority, which says all you need to know. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 22:26, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

Why does the pope wear a yarmulke? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:48, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Why? Because of liberal ecumenical syncretism. Of course, that process is now essentially complete, so the Vatican is reverting back to its reactionary traditions gradually. [2][3] —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:04, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Maybe the pope who adopted the tradition was a kabbalist, or at least wanted to create the impression? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Specifically to answer your question: the neocon globalists (and User:Conservative) want to continue the NATO war in Ukraine (and its inflationary effects). The public backlash against the policy has led to dumping 3 UK prime ministers, electoral upsets in France, Slovakia, Italy and elsewhere. This is where talk of "Trump-proofing" the neo-fascist NATO war on Russia comes from. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:31, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Sundance explains: Furrowed Brow Speaks About Need to Replace Biden on Behalf of the State Dept Who are Worried About Losing Ukraine Money if Trump Wins. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:21, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

How about not blaming half of everything on a third-rate New York miser? Believe me, I probably get just as fed up with his debauchery as you do. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:05, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

The subject of this discussion is why neocons want to toss Biden under the boss. The answer is fear of Trump taking the punchbowl away from the party. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

The military industrial complex bubble

You've heard of stock market bubbles and housing bubbles, over-inflated prices reflecting no real value? When the bubble pops, it lets the air out of the bag and prices fall closer their real value. That's what America's $880 billion dollar defense budget reflects: decades and decades of inflated costs not reflecting its real value. The vaunted Javelin missile or Patriot missile systems for example, turn out to be nothing but examples of shrinkflation.

Is it possible to recover some of the stolen value and costs in the decades and decades of inflated values appropriated in the US government's #1 budget priority? No. Cause that cash was paid in labor and service costs, consumed long ago, and it doesn't exist in stockpiles of manufactured goods.

This is how miscalculations occur, for example thinking the Russian Federation's GDP was smaller than Spain or the Netherlands. The entire US economy became bloated and overvalued relative to comparisons with other nations, which is reflected in global statistics due the US dollars status in the global financial system. The US taxpayer has eaten the cost - through inflation - over decades and decades while at the same time creating the military industrial complex bubble, which was paid out in research, labor, maintenance and service costs, and not building the appropriate stockpile reserves needed in the event of war with a peer power.

Much more on this to come. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:52, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Antifa France

WATCH: Leftist Radicals Riot in France Despite Victory for Far-Left in Snap Elections. Scary as hell. I'm sure it will boost morale among its parallels here, in our country.Telling (talk)

Project 2025 a beautiful, comprehensive platform for Christian Nationalism and Conservatism

As a longtime advocate of Christian Nationalism, I am pleasantly surprised (and in fact positively thrilled) to see such a well thought-out advocacy for it in Project 2025. Now, Liberal Wiki has a very lengthy page on Project 2025 up (and we need to get ours on Conservapedia up next - will do that after this post) but all you need to know is, if P2025 is Pro-Christian Nationalism, Godless, Liberal Wiki will be against it. No surprises there, but this was exactly why Conservapedia was founded. To do ideological battle with and demonstrate we are the superior alternative to Wikipedia when it comes to getting Truth out there, and we don't take refuge under the phony pretext of a supposed neutrality. One cannot in fact be "neutral" between Light and darkness without soon going blind. One must choose the side of Light, of objective Truth, such as CN. Christ is King of kings, and it is righteous and just that the nations of this world embrace Him as their King and publicly proclaim His Teaching as the basis for flourishing societies.

Liberal Wiki on P2025 and it's Pro-CN platform: "As the leader of the Center for Renewing America, Project 2025 contributor Russell Vought has spearheaded an effort to instill precepts of Christian nationalism into government and public life should Trump win a second term. In a 2021 opinion piece, Vought wrote that Christian nationalism "recognizes America as a Christian nation" and makes "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society." According to Vought, "Christians are under assault", and he sought to use his regular contacts with Trump to "elevate Christian nationalism as a focal point" should Trump be reelected president. Vought has close ties with another former Trump administration official, Christian nationalist William Wolfe, who, in an online manifesto, seeks to implement a Bible-based system of government whereby "Christ-ordained civil magistrates" exercise authority over the American public.[93]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Christian_nationalism

And from their official website: "WASHINGTON—The Heritage Foundation announced today that its 2025 Presidential Transition Project has reached 100 coalition partners." https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-reaches-100-coalition-partners-continues-grow-preparation-next-president Christian values will ensure society never again descends to Atheistic, Abortionist, Woke, Liberal values. If we really mean "Never Again" in reference to the ongoing Abortion Holocaust, CN is the Clear Solution. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:34, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Started the page. It's live here: https://www.conservapedia.com/Project_2025 God Bless. Will also send an email to CP team members. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

The "National Rally" was literally founded by Vichyite Nazi-Fascist socialists

Oh well, Andy's a proud Orange Bolshevist, so I guess this socialisymping checks out. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:56, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

What percentage of the French population migrated to England and North Africa with De Gaulle after the Fall of France 1940? Who, other than the Communist Party of France, remained to oppose the Vichy Regime and Nazism? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:43, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Didn't the international Communists only resume their supposed "fight" against Nazi-Fascism after the end of the Communazi Era in 1941? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 20:53, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Number 1, and I can't understate the importance of this fact enough - everything you've been led to believe today about France in World War II is leftover, stale Anglo-American war propaganda from World War II, which wasn't true then, and is no more true today than it was then. It's one reason French, and most Europeans, laugh at how gullible, stupid, and naive Americans are - cause they never believed it and they know the truth. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:07, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

The idea that France was a "victor" in World War II is total balderdash (to put it politely). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:09, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

You know how many of De Gaulle's troops "stormed the beaches of Normandy" to liberate their own country? 177. Mostly "advisors". And they weren't anywhere near the first wave. And this was only after De Gaulle acquiesced, cause he didn't want to send any. By contrast, New Zealand, with a fraction of the population and halfway around the world, had its own front.

So you're going to have to dig mighty deep, over an extended period of time (largely due to language barriers and appropriately qualifying sources) to arrive at anything approximating the truth. Just begin with the known fact that if its a source in English from WWII, it's for the most part 98-99% bs, until you pick up the proper skills of analytical discernment. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:25, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Calling the bulk of the French population who remained in France under Vichy regime, who were excluded from politics in the Cold War period because they did not support leftist ideology or communism, and were represented by the National Front founded by Le Pen's father - calling them "fascist" - is itself "communist propaganda". RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:40, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Vichy itself was a Nazi-Communist regime. Ever heard of the French National-Collectivist Party? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 21:47, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Maybe.

Man, you got your head screwed up your behind referring to Vichy as "Nazi-Communist". You need some more research (not from contemporaneous or ex post facto English language sources) on Vichy France. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:17, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

On second thought, maybe you have a point; it did come into existence during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. But we need more, or better clarity for English-speaking readers. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:20, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Fascism as a whole in its "original" incarnations was very economically interventionist and implemented welfare programs. As for Vichy France, I believe "Neither Right Nor Left" makes a good case for why classifying Franco-Fascism as exclusively "right-wing" is naively lopsided in ignoring a few dynamics. The Vichyite core was "traditionalist" and reactionary, though simultaneously socialistically radical. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 00:24, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

That's the people whose grandchildren the National Front & National Rally represent. They neither picked up guns to fight the Germans, nor are communists or leftists. They essentially are "centrists", but accused of being collaborators and fascists in post-war France. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:32, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

OH look. Ol' Fauci "decided" Biden's fit

Fauci says he has ‘no doubt’ Biden is capable of continuing as president. So, that makes it alright now.Telling (talk) 22:11, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

That makes it MPR-worthy: "82-year-old demented Dr. Fauci gives Biden clean bill of health". I wish the ICJ would hurry up and issue a subpoena like they did for Putin; they've been looking at the criminal complaint now for years. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:20, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

😂 I giggled when I read that The Hill piece.Telling (talk)

Biden death watch consumes Democrats - may not be the last word for a while. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:26, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Citing Dick Morris... did he provide predictions for Nov.?Telling (talk)

He's predicting a GOP win of the Senate with Manchin & Sinema out; the GOP already has 50 seats. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:23, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Nice.Telling (talk) 00:24, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings (Cook Political Report)

Cook Political Report: Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings. more: The Cook Political Report shifted three states — Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada — from “toss-up” to “lean Republican” and shifted two other states, Minnesota and New Hampshire, from “likely” to “lean Democrat.” Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District also shifted from “likely” to “lean” Democrat. This is HUGE...Telling (talk) 19:29, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Six states shift toward GOP in wake of Biden nominee angst: Cook Political Report, Washington Examiner. July 9, 2024. Conservative (talk) 19:41, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks Conservative for posting that more (openly) informative link.Telling (talk) 22:51, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Your welcome. Conservative (talk) 23:13, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Democrats panic after Sleepy Joe's pathetic Debate Performance

Back to Trump. Apparently, some Democrats are panicking after Sleepy Joe Biden's lousy debate performance that Biden can't beat Trump:

"Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., said during an interview on CNN that he doesn't believe Biden can win a second term, warning that it could be a "landslide" victory for Trump. “Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this election and maybe win it by a landslide,” said Bennet, who unsuccessfully ran against Biden in 2020.

He added that if Biden loses, it could also cost Democrats more seats in the House and their slim majority in the Senate.

"This isn't a question of polling; it's not a question of politics. It's a moral question about the future of our country," he said, adding later, "I think that we could lose the whole thing."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-biden-election-2024-live-updates-rcna160776

It may not be as bad (good, for us) as he says, but definitely there's a great opportunity for a landslide victory here, if Republicans pray and work hard, and don't carelessly compromise values." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:42, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony

Yet another almost infallible proof of the necessity of Christian Nationalism in a tweet retweeted by Elon Musk - Musk's been doing a good job becoming more Conservative of late.

"Who are these “activists”? the original tweet: "Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony. Their reason? "LGBTQ people ... are more likely to be charged with sex offenses" https://x.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1810662654555402441 https://notthebee.com/article/a-california-bill-would-make-it-a-felony-to-solicit-a-minor-for-sex--can-you-guess-which-group-of-people-came-out-against-it?from_social=twitter

See the immoral madness to which denying Christian Nationalism and its necessity inevitably leads. Now, they want Pedophilia and Child Prostitution. Smh. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:14, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

'Everyone Asia' Unites 11,000 Believers From 46 Nations

https://www.klove.com/news/faith/everyone-asia-unites-11-000-believers-from-46-nations-50999 "The EVERYONE ASIA conference convened on July 3, 2024, with an electrifying opening session led by Dr. Niko Njotoradardjo (Chair of the Empowered21 Asian Cabinet) and worship artists from across Indonesia. The two-and-a-half-day event, sponsored by the Empowered21 (E21) Asian Cabinet and held at the Sentul International Conference Center, brought together more than 11,000 Spirit-empowered Christians from 46 nations." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

The Dems are ridin' with Biden

With the support of the Congressional Black Caucus, Joe Biden can stay on as nominee for as long as he likes. "We're ridin' with Biden," as Jim Clyburn, leader of the caucus, put it. Sorry, Dem elites, late night comedy hosts, and liberal media mavens. You don't count. Biden has virtually no campaign and no prospect of winning in November. He is collecting donor money and putting it in the bank. I assume Jill and Hunter will split it. This is democracy? I don't buy the argument that its too late to change the nominee. Traditionally, the nominee was chosen at the convention, which hasn't been held yet.

The only person who is being mentioned as an alternative to Biden is Kamala. Switching Biden for Kamala seems a bit pointless. PeterKa (talk) 09:02, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

So far, for the GOP is even better if he stays... BTW in 'leftism' Kamala is far worse.Telling (talk) 09:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

Trump came up with an original label yesterday: "laughin' Kamala".Dianne3000 (talk) 14:46, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

Shouldn't the slogan be "We're ridin' with Biden?" I'm not sure the power-brokers against Biden are going to lose ... Biden still has to pass more tests, like a press conference on Thursday and another debate.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:25, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

The most startling revelation to come out of the Stephanopoulos interview is that Biden is satisfied, "As long as I gave it my all," like American politics is a little league participation trophy. If he blows up the Democratic Party, that's apparently not his problem. PeterKa (talk) 21:11, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

I like "cackling Kamala"; maybe Trump figures some people don't know what a cackle is. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

I agree, 'cackling' would have been a far better choice. It might also be, that fear of using too harsh of a word which will trigger being called a "racist" by the other side (though mentined briefly Former President Donald Trump (left) has tried out different nicknames for Vice President Kamala Harris (right), like "Laffin' Kamala Harris" and "Cackling Copilot Kamala Harris.").Dianne3000 (talk) 07:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

'Cackling' is like 'Malarkey'. If you have to explain it, it loses its effectiveness. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:59, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC

Says it all. "Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC."

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1810449615184896491 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:40, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

In an effort to bring in Gen Z?Telling (talk)

Diversity is our strength. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:12, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Latest Taqiyya

Latest Taqiyya: The exposed Islamic Republic of Iran's agents posing as "activists" at "protests" (as well as funding, apart from Al Jazeera's Qatar (this oiled Arab country has also been bribing US universities for long), is like the Muslim Brothethood linked (SJP founder) Hatem Bazian exposed as guiding the JVP when caught tweeting "as Jews"... So is Pallywood (too many examples, despite efforts discrediting). Or the sites with endings: .tr/ .ir / .ps Telling (talk)

Two years ago the Islamists were caught Iran accused of sowing Israel discontent with fake Jewish Facebook group. Heck, I've seen both, Iranian and "palestinian" Arab-Muslims posing as "Christians" and at times even as "white supremacists"...too. LOL.Dianne3000 (talk) 09:08, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

OH yeah the "aduk," Muslims posing as "orthodox Jews."Telling (talk) 13:25, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

We have a Taqiyya page. Feel free to bring it up to date (we'd like to get it up to 30,000+ page views). Thanks. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Kudos RobS. Will take a look.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:06, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Why is Candace Owens turning to Hitlerite apologetics?

Spoiler: it's the same reason Pope Francis has now shifted to the "right" from his "leftist" reputation, from denouncing surrogacy to rebuking "gender" surgery to more blatant pushback against the homosexualist agenda that's been clearly consistent. The answer is simple: the liberal ecumenical era has done its job and is over, so the Jesuit/Maltese/Vatican agenda is ready to revert back to its old ultramonatanist Papal-Caesarist ways in preparation for the final Antichrist agenda.

Given Owens's conversion to Catholicism a few months ago, guess who her bosses are? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 11:36, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

First, Owens' Hitler rant in 2019 was also embrassing for us conservatives. She is one more (using the mask:) "anti zionist" Hitler-apologetic. (What on earth has "anti zionism" to do with denying Mengele's monstrous horrors?) I think our friend Rob here has noted about her low IQ. It's certainly a contributor. At least Kamala is above her grade, which is not a compliment...Telling (talk) 12:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Just like neo nazis use the "Z_og" label... She also said that there was "almost" [sic] ethnic cleansing in the Holocaust vs "real" ethnic cleansing of Germans... Hence her black race would be "almost" cleansed by the "master race"? Point is, it's not just ignorance it's malicious sicknessDianne3000 (talk) 13:17, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Sure. All Nazis are also "anti-zionist." But here is an interesting historic event - reminder. The other Owens... Jesse running and winning in Nazi Germany, he became since, a heroic symbol. VS this shameful Owens... Owens VS Owens.Telling (talk) 13:22, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

IMO, what she's saying to black Democrats is, 'not all WWII narratives are the gospel truth'. But you can't just say that and leave people hanging. You need to be specific on what was propaganda then, and what are known facts now. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Re Telling's Owens vs Owens. Jesse owned the Nazis but Candace is owened now (as in slang use).Dianne3000 (talk) 14:11, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

RobSmith, please: Hitlerite apologetics has nothing to do with convincing ethnic minorities to leave the Democratic Plantation. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 18:45, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

All Nazis are anti-Zionist? Guess who said the following: "I am a Zionist too. I want every Jew to leave for Palestine." And another architect of the Final Solution said of the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them [the Zionists]." There's also a modern case example.

Maybe this makes me a Comsymp, but I have a feeling that Lenni Brenner was on to something. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 18:43, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Now here is an example of not having the interpretative skills, not reading the nuance to the quotation: Eichmann was mocking. It's like a bigot in America saying, "Ship em all back to Africa." RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:56, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Oh oy, of course with this sad latest tendencies you would choose Brenner, that canard on Zionists (again that misreading) how dare they helped save Jews? Of course German Nazis wanted to ethnic cleanse Europe, to get rid of the Jews into Palestine before the 1941 Wannsea conference when Hitler saw that there is a concensus to exterminate them all. Hitler stopped it already in 1937. Yes, Arab supremacists are very angry about it that Jews are saved. In 1938 Hitler spoke for Palestinian Arabs against the Jews in Palestine. Arabs Hail Hitler As Liberator.

It was mutual [4] And indeed: Hitler hated the Zionists, and thought their country was meant to be a refuge for crooks and thieves . Richard Spencer is the exception. How dare you label Eichmann a "zionist"? With your latest SKEWED reasearch" how many Jews did Zionists save 1933-7?Telling (talk) 19:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Telling, the Zionists in large part didn't save the Jews. The only ones they "saved" were the Zionist fringe minority (or at least some fractional minority willing to acquiesce to Zionist emigration demands), as the majority of European Jewry were anti-Zionist. (see Alfred M. Lilienthal's What Price Israel?) Both then and now, the highest levels of Zionist leadership have always been more than happy to throw dissident anti-Zionist Jews under the bus. (when was the last time the ADL condemned Zionist harassment of NK?) They sabotaged Jewish anti-Nazi resistance, with both the left and right wings of Zionism highly complicit in the scheme. Chaim Weizmann eerily said: "only the branch of the young shall survive." Then there's the Communazi (literally speaking) Stern Gang (Lehi) assassins who committed atrocities against Palestinian civilians; one of them was Yizhak Shamir.

The effort of AJCongress patriots (of course, Stephen Wise later became a quiet Nazi collaborator and suppressed news of the Holocaust) along with the Non-Sectarian Anti-Nazi League—to boycott the Nazi economy to ruin—was undermined by opposition from the B'nai B'rith–American Jewish Committee gang and the socialist Labor Zionists who saved the Nazi economy in the Haavara Agreement. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Can you find a better "source" than Jacobin? You wee asked you since you claim to have "researched" that period. How many Jews did they save in Haavara? If you want to ask me what I think about Zionists efforts I can reply - trust me it was not all rosy. I can also tell you if I resoect Zionists more ir less tgmhan Haredim who refuse to serve in IDF (not related to the tiny group Neturei Karta per se). But that is if you wish to know and not propagate your war on ADL and all major Jewish organizations. All that criticism on Zionists icons have nothing to do with the noble Zionist idea or to switch it around and peddle anti zionist canards which today is a veiled anti Jewush war. Intentional or not. So far, what you implied is that Hitler and all those nazis who were eager to get rid of the Jews begore they saw it's possible just to exterminate...were so called Z. Regards.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

The Weizmann quote should be well-substantiated all over the place; you can look it up yourself, Dianne3000. As to Haavara, yes, some tens of thousands of Jews were saved. Unfortunately not in the millions to the extent of preventing the Holocaust from happening. IOWs, a minority of German Jewry willing to acquiesce to Zionism were rescued, while the anti-Zionist majority were targeted by the Nazi regime. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Now, I know someone out there, sooner or later, is bound to argue, "but what about the anti-Zionist German National Jews?" That group was highly fringe with zero real standing/influence, and the Nazis hardly tolerated them. OTOH, the Nazis "favoured Zionists over other Jews, citing their common nationalist ideals." (Tamar Wolofsky, "The Unlikely Entente: Collaborations Between Zionism and National Socialism fore the Second World War," p. 63)

[EC] Both the Nazis and Zionists had a shared goal of kicking the Jews out of Europe. As sorry as I am to say this, the Zionists jointly facilitated the Holocaust with the chief Nazi mass-murder thugs to wipe out the anti-Zionist majority of European Jewry and goad the remainder into moving to Palestine (the Nazi trope of "Judeo-Bolshevism" was an ever-so-convenient attack on the left-wing Jews who distrusted Zionism as a reactionary conspiracy). This is the harsh truth almost no one wants to talk about though needs to be said, and I'm getting very tired of suppressed history remaining suppressed just to please the IHRA/ADL/AJC apparatus which egotistically thinks they alone get to selectively weaponize the Holocaust and decide what amounts to "antisemitism." (and I'm sure RobSmith is familiar with all these facts; I'm very certain he probably avoids these topics to refrain from affronting you, Telling)

If you understand my intrinsic point that Zionism does not genuinely represent the interests of the Jewish people, hopefully all this can be understood with considerably less offense. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

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LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now? Sure.. which major Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"? (And you really don't know that most religious Jews were non Zionists - not just left winger secularists)?Telling (talk) 19:55, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

[EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:44, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

LT, pardon me for saying so but, you're pulling a "Ken", speaking on things you haven't a clue about. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

I know precisely what I'm talking about. Tell me, RobSmith, why did the American Jewish Committee oppose the boycott of Nazi Germany? Why did the AJC refuse to oppose the internment of Japanese Americans? Why did the AJC refuse to defend any Jewish individual targeted by Smith Act witchhunts? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:54, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

It's an age old debate: Who do sanctions hurt, the leaders or the people they're trying to protect? Why didn't Truman arrest Weizmann and have him stand trial at Nuremberg when Weizmann visited the Oval Office? [5] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:27, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

There will always be difference of opinions in how to deal on such magnitude of global events. Not to antagonize and working with or/and helping (like Arab-palestinian leadership did) is heaven & earth.Telling (talk) 22:52, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

[EC] The problem with all "major Jewish organizations" is that none of them are sincere. They are all run by hypersensitive snowflakes who act like they speak on behalf of Jewish people en masse (their shameless pride makes Absalom's ego look like marbles), who selectively invoke accusations of antisemitism in blatant lopsided agendas, who blanket-regard pro–human rights criticism of Israel as an attack on all Jewry, etc. If the prophet Jeremiah was alive today, he'd be called an antisemite by the ADL just as the contemporaries of his time hated him. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:51, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

AJC opposed boycott in order not to antagonize the elephant even more.Telling (talk) 19:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Well, how does Neville Chamberlain's legacy fare? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:02, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

So appeaser Chamberlin made a mistake - looking back. But you use exclusively appeasers to damn Jews in your upside-down views and a negative philosophy. What a shame. Of course you wouldn't call Chamberlin pro Nazi. Heck. After reading what you quoted on Eichmann, there is not much point...sure you will cite "sources." You did claim that he was "zionist" just because he said what he said as he wanted to get rid of the Jews (not "pro Jews in Palestine" as twist it around) just get away from Europe! Boy. What is the matter with you???Dianne3000 (talk) 20:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Well, Dianne3000, you just accidentally betrayed yourself and outed yourself as an antisemite. See, I'm rebuking Zionists for betraying the Jewish people and explicitly did not attack Jews, but you're asserting that my polemics are directed against Jews. IOWs, you are designating—the Zionists I'm condemning for Nazi collaboration—as "Jews." —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:17, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

LT, That "supposedly anti-Zionist." You really wrote that LT? One has to "prove" he was against any Jews or anything related to Jews??? Telling (talk)

Once again, Telling, please read my summaries attentively when I emphasize the clear distinction between Jewry/Judaism and Zionism. Of course it's a fundamental fact of history that Hitler was anti-Jew. However, this does not mean he was anti-Zionist. Hitlerite policies in practice couldn't have better facilitated Zionist aspirations fulfilled in 1948. [6] The rest of the dots shouldn't be that hard to connect especially if you examine what Brenner documented. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:01, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

To sum it all up.

I can not believe that someone who Telling said is a good person would ever type this. It's embarrassing. And it's with a 'passion.'Dianne3000 (talk) 20:24, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Gal. 4:16) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:33, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

I don't want to offend you (nor did I call you an A.S. like you just did) but you have not said anything related to "truth." Sir. It's sad.

Dianne3000 (talk)

He confuses Zionism - the idea with what this or that Zionist did. You can do that with any ideology or religion! (He also carefully avoided that most religious --i.e Talmudic-- Jews were non Zionists. Not just the leftists). But at this point he is preaching and not any goodness nor facts but directing dots to his current tendencies.

This is to Dianne. I did write above that I have criticism of some Zionist leaders especially in the past. But the point is that most Jews today are linked to Z. organizational etc. One can make the conclusion. _

Unfortunately LT did not answer if there are ANY Jewish organization he is OK with. He was busy rationalizing against ALL. Still he is against most Jewry (which most are linked to AKA Zionists) and ALL organizations. Reasoning isn't the point. I still believe that in his core he is not bad.Telling (talk) 22:52, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

These kids these days, wuttayagonna do? He just needs to be guided in the right direction. Right now, he's reading the wrong esoteric material, or hasn't developed the proper interpretive skills yet. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:40, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks RobS.

Conclusion on the intolerance

The following is not personal. I was thinking to post his reply. I think it's important for the clarity in these mishmash posting.

Parts I've edited from his reply: 1.The F word. 2. Shortned the Zionists or Zionism into initial. 3. An entire line of harsh language - removed.

From: Jo.....@gmail.com <jo.....@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2024, 7:02 PM Subject: On that LT hate. You can forward this. To: D... <D..............@gmail.com'>

Dianne.

Here is my prepared reply. Feel free to forward it.

Conclusion from what we've read these days (including elevating LaRouch, well, because he said things that sounds like music to his ears, his talk and on main page):

1. Hitler was merely "supposedly" anti zionist - LT.

2. Chamberlain was not pro Hitler for his appeasement but a J org. that was fearful, oh yeah, they automatically "were" - says LT (main page and his talk page).

3. Eichmann was a Z. - says LT, for he wished to get rid of the Jews [first] before he happily received the updated order to exterminate them. LT even quoted his sentence as "proof."

4. This f####d up thinking let's one to believe that the Nazi beaters of Jews on German streets in tghe 1930s' who shouted go to Palestine were... Z.

5. The Arab palestinian leadership (and polled majority) were pro Hitler / sought Hitler out just because of the British Freemason or masons, and even today, it's "others"' (fill in the blank) fault ["he made me do it" - line. Here the 'shared interests' is out the window too].

6. LT: All Jewish organizations are not good. They were never. But a small fringe group Oct/7 atrocities justifiers - guided by a radical Muslim Brotherhood Palestinian Islam "professor" - they are the good ones?

7. Neo Nazi pro-palestine activity don't matter. Because they are also listed by ADL... Nor do their deviant anti-Zion rhetoric "conspiracy theories" for decades (including " [#OG] occupied government" or/and terming anti-Zionist-Soros as a Z, among other stupidity).

8. For the record: at the time of bashing Kaballah, LT admitted (to T.) he doesn't know (when asked what a -- related -- Biblical verse means), but already chose to link it to "politics" and "race." How he will try to link it thereafter, is worthless. It's this evidently discredited troubling trend.

9. What is 'intrinsic?' He proudly quoted clips by anti-Zionist-Kaballistic Neturei Karta but was happy to find two people with other opinions (one can only imagine what he googled to prove his claim) so he was quick to "conclude" what he WANTS to. As long as he can create a "CABAL." And he really thinks that pepple aren't aware of the weird-salad-terminology he uses, used by (Neo) Nazis.

10. The blender of hotchpotch, jumble unrelated terms ignores that Talmudists were non Zionist and even anti Zionists, not only the atheists leftists.

11. Just because Hitler didn't see it yet feasible to get rid of the Jews entirely but only to "cleanse" Europe (nothing to do with a 'Jewish National Home' as LT would want one to believe), and on the other hand, (his hated) Zionists wanted more Jews in their historic land... So? Therefore they must be "linked." (Identical too?). Get that warped "logic?"

Yet, at the time that Zionism is linked to world Jewry, (current) canard promoter LT is very much concerned exclusively about 'Arab Nazi.'

12. LT will exclusively conclude any ideology linked to Jews as negative by cherry picking a case as an "example." (And/or just copying messed up sentences).

LT won't do it to other religions. (Difference between LT and T is that T has been criticising those that link Hitler to his Christianity for a variety of reasons). 7.12.24

In other words: 'Hey, I'm not against all Jews. Only against most of them. I even have facts/truth/sources.'

Keep in touch D..

Jo....

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End of email.Dianne3000 (talk) 22:14, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks Dianne. In LT's defense (if there is any) I think he is too focused on, or always looking for, ideological motivations in everything. I've tried to explain to him ideology is not always the motivating factor or guiding force in human actions and history. Sometimes people are just mean, instinctively cruel, greedy lustful criminals, etc. And maybe an ideology is used for cover. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:10, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Alright, back from Sabbath, and- yeah... I'm not even going to respond to these stale accusations anymore (I got better things to do). I already exposed the facade behind Zionists and neo-Nazis propagating the exact narrative to lump Palestinians with Nazis. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 21:35, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Candance Owens boldly tells Don Lemon: Same sex "marriage" is sin

https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1811479900970254521 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

It's a shame Owens is shilling for Hitler, a homosexual prostitute. (see Samuel Igra's book Germany's National Vice) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 18:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

She is only like Chamberlin. Right?Dianne3000 (talk)

occultic Anglo-Jesuit rubbish

I was talking to a nutjob named DeMyer some time ago and he peddled the obnoxious Marcionite dispensationalist view of Ezekiel 38–39 being fulfilled in the current Israel–Palestine War. Of course, this is a bunch of utter occultic, reactionary propaganda peddled by the cabalistic Anglo-Masonic operative Lord Palmerston and Jesuitic tools John Darby and Cyrus Scofield. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 19:01, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Here we go: Occultic cabalistic Catholic Anglo-Masonic bolshevic Hindu Christian Jihad Amish Zionists Samaritans...Dianne3000 (talk) 19:19, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

LOL. Dear D.Telling (talk)

Me too. As my dad used to say, "If you had a brain, you'd be dangerous". RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:59, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

😂😂 Dianne3000 (talk) 20:02, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Dianne3000, how coincidental do you think it is that the "Christian Zionist" apparatus of 33rd-degree Freemason Billy Graham was early-on propped up (when Graham was far from famous) by reactionary Nazi collaborator and Illuminist media mogul William Randolph Hearst? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:05, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Actually Freemason Eichmann was a hindu bolshevik cabal-ist Evangelical MuslimDianne3000 (talk)

Wait till the books are opened. (Rev. 20:12) Which side of Final Judgment are you going to be on? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:22, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Are you sure Herzl didn't "inspire" [😂] Eichm_ann? I'm sure you can find a source Dianne3000 (talk)

I didn't say that. Herzl's antisemitism is somewhat of a different story. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 20:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Yea whatever. After all the rubbish above. Anything is "applicable." Have a great evening sir. Nothing personal. A hint, if you get it: Ahmadinejad was more than happy to embrace 2 and half (Kaballistic) neturei karta - in "exchange" of wiping out 7 million (hey look, see? I'm not against Jews..."). N'uff said.Dianne3000 (talk)

Anyone seen this pastor calling to vote Dem?

I refer to Andy Stanley.Telling (talk) 21:48, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Haven't watch the whole thing yet, but what he's said so far is don't hate the Democrats (or think of them as evil, I think...). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

If it's just that, then OK.Telling (talk)

He's not saying "vote for Democrats", he's refuting the premise, "you can't be a Christian and be a Democrat". I have many Democrat Christian friends. They might be screwed up in the head, but I don't doubt some, if not many, are Christians. And they think the same of me.

Now the intolerant, totalitarian Democrats are no different than intolerant, totalitarian Republicans, of which we have many, as well. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:18, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

That's a whole other story - screwed up Christians in the head.... RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:22, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Our great Rob always with interesting choice of words. BTW: Musk donates to super pac working to elect Trump, Bloomberg reportsTelling (talk) 19:26, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

That, and the Shellenberger video (1:57 sec) about Musk I just headlined should be read together. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:33, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

As a Christian, Christians make it too easy to criticize the church. I find myself among groups of people - believers and, let's say, "the confused" - who rail on and on about bad churches & preachers. I have to bite my lip. It's too easy to criticize - they make it too easy. And personally, I feel, that's not what God wants. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:29, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Are you referring to criticism of this or that particular church or of The Church - as the system?Telling (talk) 20:00, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

It's usually somebody, after hearing the gospel, railing on about this or that hypocrisy in the church. It's not the church that offers salvation to a lost sinner, it's the person of Jesus Christ. So they are just making excuses, by reflecting outward against others, to avoid making the internal change or repentance God asks for. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:10, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

NATO begins sending F-16 jets in new support for Ukraine

"NATO begins sending F-16 jets in new support for Ukraine U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the F-16 transfer “concentrates Vladimir Putin’s mind on the fact that he will not outlast Ukraine, he will not outlast us”" https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/nato-begins-sending-f-16-jets-in-new-support-for-ukraine/article68393015.ece NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:06, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Antony Blinken, now there's a credible source. A true American hero, patriot, and leader. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:52, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

So if poopy pants Biden isn't making decisions, who's behind leading us to WWIII? Blinken? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:47, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Poopy, I heard that about Whoopi too the other day after her anti Trump rant about Biden poop....

Whoopi's the globally international recognized expert on the matter. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:43, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Elon Musk SHOCKS World: Officially DONATES To Trump 2024 | Richest Man on Earth Goes Full MAGA

Elon Musk SHOCKS World: Officially DONATES To Trump 2024 | Richest Man on Earth Goes Full MAGA

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1811934325136339055 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:42, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Bad Fruits of Bad Eschatology: always believing end is imminent and just a few months or years away leads to defeatism and lack of long term Conservative Christian building

"I, and everyone I knew believed that this world was doomed and that the apocalypse was imminent.

And here’s the thing… If you believe that Jesus is coming back next Tuesday then you have virtually no impetus to undertake the kind of cultural building projects that will take generations complete.

This is why eschatology matters. What you believe about the end WILL shape how you engage in God’s mission in the present.

You see, the Left had/has an “optimistic” eschatology. They are hyper focused on building their egalitarian commie hellscape no matter how many generations it takes!

Meanwhile, Christians have, for half a century now, sat back, sang some songs, said some prayers, done some evangelism, and diligently waited for Jesus to come helicopter out his faithful few beleaguered soldiers from this cosmic Vietnam.

What if this world is not God’s Vietnam? What if we actually began to intentionally sow seeds that our great-grandchildren would keep?

What if we began building cultural institutions that would not be completed for generations?

What if, like the proverbs say we actually sought to leave a cultural inheritance to our children’s children?

I of course argue for an optimistic eschatology. I have become convinced that Postmillennialism makes the most sense of the most biblical data. But even if you disagree with Postmillennialism, I would implore you to, at the very least, live like it were true."

https://x.com/haymes_joshua/status/1811816439310905790 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:50, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

The person above apparently believed this from the 60s, and clearly many others he knew also did. Yet, 60-65 years later, here we are. It applies especially to false believes like the "Pre-Trib Rapture". Rapture is Post-Trib, as 1 Thess 4 clearly says no one will be caught up until the dead in Christ rise first, and John 6:40 clearly says that happens only on the Last Day, i.e. at the End of Time and Second Coming. But even if one does believe in Pre-Trib Rapture, always believing it is "next Tuesday" can lead to defeatism and escapism rather than long term attempts to win back the Culture. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:53, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

"Behold, I am coming quickly." - Jesus (Revelation 22:7). "You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” - Jesus (Luke 12: 40). Conservative (talk) 03:11, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

That's a Warning to prepare for Death, because Christ will come in Judgment to meet us when we die. It's not an excuse for defeatism or escapism. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:55, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Papias, a very early church father who had contact with the Apostles (particulary John) was a premillienialist.[7][8] And there is strong circumstantial evidence that Polycarp, who was a disciple of the Apostle John, was premillenialist.[9][10] In terms of theology, postmillenialism is a 1600s Johnny come lately eschatology.[11] Premillenialism is a far more historically sound because it can be traced so much historically closer to the apostles. Conservative (talk) 07:52, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

In addition, your initial post, even if true, is an appeal to consequences logical fallacy. Conservative (talk) 07:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Oh God no, not another lesson in logical fallacies again. How about the, "I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about logical fallacy"? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 09:27, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

The main point is about being purposeful and optimistic in one's Eschatology, not pessimistic, escapist and defeatist. I believe the Millenium will certainly take place and Christ will work some visible signs before it to help complete the Great Commission. "Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers the church by the Spirit, and charges the church with the Great Commission (Matt 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of people living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows."[/b] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmillennialism I do not agree 100% with the above, but I think it is good, optimistic eschatology. But regardless of which school one follows, one must not be defeatist or escapist, or refuse to plan more than a few months ahead, for e.g. like 5 or 10 or 25 years ahead. It's important to ask, "Where will Christianity be in 2050, if the Lord tarries, and what can we do and build right now to help get there" instead of saying "the so-called Pre-Trib Rapture is surely going to happen by 2025/2030 anyway, so we don't need to". NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Take no thought for the morrow. Sufficient is the day the evil thereof. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 09:43, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Taken out of context, as it's speaking of being excessively concerned for material goods like food and clothes. But read on: "But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Mat 6:33) And we pray for the coming of that Kingdom of God every day when we say the Our Father, praying, "Our Father Who Art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, On Earth as it is in Heaven". This is the Messianic Kingdom of 1000 years spoken of in the Book of Revelation by St. John. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:59, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Oh, ok. Thanks. Me personally, I have faith in God, and I'm not worried about what comes hereafter. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 11:08, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Nishant, you make an excellent point about the longterm harm of predicting an imminent end of the world, as it deters beneficial, necessary efforts having longterm goals.

Thanks, Andy! Recently, another Andy who owns a website, namely Andrew Torba of Gab said, after similar experiences, that he too feels the same about the "longterm harm of predicting an imminent end of the world, as it deters beneficial, necessary efforts having longterm goals." as you so rightly put it. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:20, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

‘Divine Judgment’: Pastor John MacArthur on Biden, Trump, immorality and the Church

MacArthur's not completely wrong that God's Judgment is upon America, as it is upon any nation that winks at adultery, sodomy, abortion, porn sluts (like the RNC did), LGBTQ genital mutilation etc. But he should note two things (1) First, there are more than 10 Righteous Men (and Women) holding back God's Judgment, unlike in Sodom, as God/Jehovah said they could; (2) Second, if he really felt this way, he should have spoken up and completely backed the Social Conservative Candidate, Ron DeSantis. Anyone can complain that things are going wrong. The issue is to find the Solution to fix it, and then pray and work to implement that solution. If not now, then in 2028 at least.

"Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church articulated a stern view of President Joe Biden’s leadership during a recent interview, framing it as a divine judgment and a reflection of societal moral decline. America is a nation reaping the consequences of its moral choices, he declared.

During his interview with Breitbart News Daily, MacArthur spoke about the Biden administration’s vocal support for trans ideology as emblematic of a society straying from biblical teachings. When a society “turns to sexual immorality, homosexual immorality, and a reprobate mind, God gives them up,” MacArthur said, suggesting that the current leadership exemplifies the punishment described in Romans 1." https://www.christianpost.com/news/john-macarthur-on-biden-trump-immorality-and-the-church.html/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

God damn NATO to hell. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 11:09, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Such statements are not of God, who wills all men to be saved. See: "2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim 2:4).

Also, see Ephesians 4:29 which condemns cussing: "29 Do not let unwholesome [foul, profane, worthless, vulgar] words ever come out of your mouth, but only such speech as is good for building up others, according to the need and the occasion, so that it will be a blessing to those who hear [you speak]." (Eph 4:29, Amp. KJV). NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

It's my prayer, and I'm asking for relief from an institution of Satan. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 11:36, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Trump injured at rally

I don't see any news at Wikipedia. --Ed Poor ^Talk 19:30, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Some of the gun shots may have been return fire by the Secret Service. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:31, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

• The sniper who took a shot on former President Donald Trump's life is dead, sources told The Post.
• The Secret Service counter-assault team "neutralized" the threat, the insiders said.

• https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/trump-shot-at-pa-rally-live-updates-reactions-photos-more/

Let's pray for his recovery, Thank God he is alive!🙏🏻--CatolicoAustral (talk) 20:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Stephen Bryen (a highly credible source) says 2 shooters. [12]

Should we provide updates on his condition? "Shot" implies "killed" in some people's minds. --Ed Poor ^Talk 20:24, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

They're now saying "grazed"; I think it's too early to give the OK or all clear sign until we know more about the shooter or shooters. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:34, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Trump will explain all in his Acceptance speech. Meanwhile, Biden's trying to capitalize with a "ban guns" speech after inciting violence. Then we also have the problem of the CIA having whacked JFK, so "official" reports and narratives shouldn't' be taken at face value. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:38, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Trump was shot? Sounds like a false flag intended to rile up right-wing Orange Bolshevist frenzy as part of the PRS catalyst to institute the soon-to-come image of the beast, courtesy of the Maltese Anglo-Jesuit powermongers. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 21:36, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Ducking down

videos show him quickly clutching his ear and then ducking down to the ground [13] --Ed Poor ^Talk 20:43, July 13, 2024 (EDT)