Talk:Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power

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Ian Bremmer. Is this the guy cited in the Trump Derangement Syndrome article here? A real authority on Eurasia, I can see. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:08, January 7, 2023 (EST)

Ian Bremmer argues that China has not economically peaked and has another decade of growth. So he is among the analysts who are still bullish on China. I list him in my section entitled "Debate: Has China peaked? Pro/con arguments". Regardless, there is a growing number of economic and/or geopolitics experts/analysts/pundits who are bearish on China for various reasons I cite some of them in my essay. Conservative (talk) 08:05, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Move to Russia or China, RobS. I don't think that you will ever move to either country! See: [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future|The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]. USA! USA! USA! Conservative (talk) 23:35, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

I dunno; if the gays and trannies keep taking over, I might consider it if Russia and China offer asylum to sane people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:50, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

The gays and trannies are taking over? Have you looked at Target's or Annheiser-Busches stock prices lately? How many anti-trans in women's sports, etc bills passed in the USA recently? See: Gen Z REBELS as Support for Pride Month IMPLODES.

I have one word for you: Backlash. Conservative (talk) 00:14, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Have you looked at the Biden junta#Personnel or school boards across the nation? or the US military? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:16, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Homeschooling is up in the USA. Christian college enrollment is up in the USA. Parents are pushing back at school board meetings in the USA, etc. So there will be less indoctrination in the future. Gays/liberals/leftists don't have kids at a replacement level or higher, but the very religious/religious do. Secularism will peak around 2050 or sooner in the USA (See: Desecularization and United States, irreligion vs. religion and demographics). Conservative (talk) 00:27, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Parents are pushing back at school board meetings and being arrested or ending up on FBI watch lists. Such things only happen in the Soviet Union and America, but not in democratic Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:28, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

(ec)I'll bet you $5 gays and trannies make up a disproportionate share outside their numbers in the population of election watchers and judges in the 2024 elections. And why not? given mandatory diversity and inclusion programs and people like yourself not wanting to volunteer for jobs like that.

Have you removed the neo-Nazi Ian Bremmer as your authoritive source yet? I bet not. This conversation is going nowhere. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:30, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Given your penchant to call every Tom, Dick and Harry a Nazi or neo-Nazi, I doubt very much that Bremmer is a neo-nazi or Nazi. Regardless, " I just added above this comment above: "Ian Bremmer argues that China has not economically peaked and has another decade of growth. So he is among the analysts who are still bullish on China. I list him in my section entitled "Debate: Has China peaked? Pro/con arguments". Regardless, there is a growing number of economic and/or geopolitics experts/analysts/pundits who are bearish on China for various reasons and I cite some of them in my essay."

So Bremmer actually agrees with you as far as being bullish or semi-bullish on China (At least for the next 10 years). At this point, I am skeptical about being bullish or semi-bullish on China, but I am still open to some of the opposing arguments somewhat. So I have given the pro-con arguments via my "Debate: Has China peaked? Pro/con arguments" section and then let the reader decide. Conservative (talk) 08:13, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

But again, just move to Russia or China. Walk the talk. Conservative (talk) 00:31, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

China cuts two more key lending rates as economy sputters. Trump in 2024! Bigger Better Stronger - Donald Trump Remix! Conservative (talk) 00:55, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

You still got the neo-Nazi Trump-Russia hoaxer as an authoritive source. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:32, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Godwin's law. Conservative (talk) 13:40, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, are you saying Bremmer is not a Russophobic neo-Nazi Trump-Russia hoaxer? What's his purpose in demonizing Russia? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:57, June 20, 2023 (EDT)

You have called me Russophobic. Given your lack of expertise in psychology/psychiatry and my total lack of fear of Russians, I know you are entirely wrong about me being Russophobic. I have a realistic view of Russia/Russians and see their pros and cons. For example, I listen to Russian Orthodox songs as can be seen HERE and I listen to Russian/Slavic music as can be seen HERE. And this past month, I had a very pleasant conversation with a Russian-American lady. I also let a Russian-American homeless lady stay at a residence I lived in because I felt sorry for her. I helped her and she cooked Russian food for me so it was overall a good experience. After a few weeks of my fellow apartment mates pressure, she had to leave though.

You have also called me a Nazi and I am very sure that I am not a fascist or German nationalist. For example, I believe in small government and I am not very bullish on the German economy/nation.

And I as I noted, Bremmer is bullish on China's economy as far as the next 10 years so he agrees more with you than me. Nevertheless, I cited him to be fair-minded.

Lastly, stop using the genetic fallacy. Conservative (talk) 08:35, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Bremmer's a corrupt Trump-Russia hoaxer; I don't know what more needs to be said. He's not much of an expert on anything. He's just another propagandist. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:40, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Bremmer agrees more with you than me as far as China's economy for the next 10 years as I noted above.

By the way, Donald Trump says that if he is elected, he will make the USA economy bigger, better and stronger! If he is elected, I hope he is more serious about tackling the USA's federal deficit next time. The election betting markets currently indicate that the GOP has about a 45% of winning the next presidential election.[5] Conservative (talk) 08:45, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Don't whine now; you were warned months and months ago about Zeihan, Bremmer, Foreign Affairs magazine and a bunch of other corrupt nazis you deem as "experts" to base your personal opinions on in Essay space. Yet you always double down. You're in over your head.

And you still misuse and misquote Mearsheimer and Huntington. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:02, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Digression on the author's duplicity and anti-Catholicism

I am taking User: SamHB's advice and limiting/cutting off my communication with you. You are an unreasonable/illogical person. For example, you love the genetic fallacy, whataboutism, etc.

Also, in one of recent phone conversations, I showed you a few times that you don't even listen to others. You couldn't repeat what I told you over the phone. That is one of the reasons I am limiting our phone conversations and kept our last phone conversation very short. This is happening again as I pointed out a few times now that Bremmer actually agrees more with you and he is bullish on China for the next 10 years. Conservative (talk) 09:13, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Look, it's 7 AM my time; I don't need this trolling first thing in the morning. Can't it wait? Don't you have something more constructive to do with your time today? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:25, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

In our last phone conversation, you asked me to go along with one of your lying/deception schemes. I think I kept it short. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:28, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

First of all, limiting public access to information is not being deceptive. When General Douglas MacArthur returned to the Philippines, did he tell the Japanese his plans or return in an unexpected manner?

I am not a deceptive person. My articles are often popular because I am scrupulous in terms of being fairminded and not spinning or being deceptive. Even a fairly influential atheist said she followed my material on atheism in one of her videos (I cover material that pro-atheism websites very often don't provide).

And I will point out that I removed one of your MPR post recently because the video didn't say what you reported on MPR. Hopefully, it was a mistake and not intentional. Conservative (talk) 09:39, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, I just made up your request to help you hide your anti-Catholic attacks. Thanks for informing me. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:03, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

I did not call you to hide my criticisms of certain aspects of Catholic theology or to hide my various criticisms of the Catholic Church. This shows me that once again that you are a poor listener and that it's pointless to try to have a conversation with you. I suspected that you were not listening very well so I cut the call short. I did not want to repeat things over and over with a contentious person who is a poor listener.

And there are theological points where I agree with Catholics more than some Protestants such as real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, etc. I did some historical investigation regarding the Eucharist as far as what the early church believed and I did some additional historical investigation as well. Conservative (talk) 11:15, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, if you didn't call me to ask if I had objections to you deleting the entire Debate: Luther, Protestantism vs. Catholicism: Which is better? to hide it from your critics at Rationalwiki, as you stated in our two minute conversation, why did you call me? As I recall, our conversation ended with me stating, "Now you are asking me to engage in deception for you." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:57, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Please, can't this incessant trolling wait? I have important things to do before WWIII breaks out in Africa. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:59, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

I had a phone call with a family member and I mentioned that I was in the midst of improving my time management skills. Bye! Conservative (talk) 12:56, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Where, on God's green earth, did I ever say I was "bullish" on the Chinese economy? No no no, never mind. Your imagination just runs away with you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:40, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

The Chinese economy is facing the specter of deflation. China's efforts to stoke an economic recovery are failing

The Chinese economy is facing the specter of deflation.[1][2][3]

China's efforts to stoke an economic recovery are failing.[4]

Has China peaked? Or will it peak in about 10 years?[6] Conservative (talk)

Ah, duh, if China faces deflation, that means it has a gold backed currency.

If it doesn't, it can always resort to the tried and tested method (by the US & Weimar Republic) of the printing press. You're in over your head. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:35, August 9, 2023 (EDT)RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:33, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

The gentlemen protest too much

"IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up." RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST) Conservative (talk) 15:31, August 28, 2023 (EDT)

[[https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_I_prefer_to_get_my_news_from_a_wide_variety_of_sources#The_case_for_being_less_partisan.2Fpolitical_and_being_more_objective|The case for being less partisan/political and being more objective]].

See: Liberal hypocrisy. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 04:57, November 30, 2023 (EST)

Update article in 2026 potentially. See if China starts to experience Japan-like economic stagnation

Update the article if China starts experiencing Japan-like economic stagnation ("Japan's lost 30 years"). See the video about a potential balance sheet recession: Is China facing Japan-style 'lost decades'?ーNHK WORLD-JAPAN NEWS. Conservative (talk) 20:43, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

This is just racist crap

To say the planet's most populous nation will not remain a "global power" and will return to subservience is simply racist crap. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 15:51, January 28, 2024 (EST)

You are obsessed with race. And the Soviet communist state, which also had state atheism, went under due to economic/other problems. You are not making a good argument. Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 17:30, January 28, 2024 (EST)

The population of China is 1.3 billion; there are 86 million party members. Your argument is 1.3 billion - 86 million = 1.214 billion Chinese are incapable subhuman slaves, and their society and culture is not worthy of global power status. Who made you the judge? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 17:42, January 28, 2024 (EST)

You are saying they would be slaves. And it's not an impressive strawman argument or appeal to consquences argument because both are logical fallacies and its not intellectually honest. Your obsession with race and egalitarianism in terms of results that people achieve (regardless of how they do things) makes you incapable of forming an actual argument. Conservative (talk) 17:47, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Once China ceases manufacturing all the cheap amenities that allow you to live a privileged life, lays everybody off and ceases to be a great power, you my friend are up poop-creek without a paddle to maintain your lifestyle with inflated costs.

Your only motivation for writing this screed is racism. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 17:54, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Your all or nothing thinking is not impressive either. It's certainly not intellectually rigorous. What are you going to tell me next? Weathermen can't predict hurricanes because they are so awful. Or that summer cannot turn to fall and that fall cannot turn into winter? Conservative (talk) 18:00, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Take your all or nothing "thinking" and "wouldn't that be so awful so it can't happen" attention-seeking drama somewhere else. Conservative (talk) 18:04, January 28, 2024 (EST)

I'm just reading the title of your Essay, and can see the false pride and racism behind the motivation for writing such crap. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:07, January 28, 2024 (EST)

I don't care what you think - especially since you are not creating a counter essay and you are merely putting senseless dribble on the talk pages of my essays. Why would I care? You certainly haven't given me a reason to care. Conservative (talk) 18:08, January 28, 2024 (EST)

I tried to give you a heads up about how this racist crap is being received, but was ignored. You should seriously give thought to changing your username, cause you give conservatives a bad rap. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:13, January 28, 2024 (EST)

You are the only one whining. And I don't care if my essays tip over your weak cow pet theories which are not based on reality. Conservative (talk) 18:19, January 28, 2024 (EST)

I speak for millions, past, present, and future. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:20, January 28, 2024 (EST)

In this discussion, anyone can see your Agreeableness, Teamwork skills, Collaboration skills, Conflict resolution skills, Strategic planning skills, Conscientiousness, Results orientation, Conversational skills, Social intelligence, and Leadership skills RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:27, January 28, 2024 (EST).

Exactly. Results oriented. Why would I wrangle with someone unreasonable when nothing will come of it? I am taking User: SamHB's advice because I haven't seen an iota of change in you. Conservative (talk) 18:36, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Oh! The guy that posted that you were an imbecile all over the internet. Now that's genuine collaborative skill, I must say. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 19:09, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Btw, what happened to your liberal neocon globalist buddy User:Conway!!!? He was supposed to come back and spank me last April after Zelensky kicked Putin's butt, but haven't heard from him. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 19:24, January 28, 2024 (EST)

The trend is that less and less people want to interact with you. You should do some introspection and ask why. Conservative (talk) 19:37, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Good. I should lock my user page like you, for "Agreeableness".

My interactions are on policy matters & collaborative content. As to the personal spite you spam all over the wiki, "as you mete out, so shall it be meted unto you." RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 19:46, January 28, 2024 (EST)

I do have a strong suspicion on why he is no longer chatting with you, but I don't want to offer my speculation about that. Conservative (talk) 19:44, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Yah, I know. Yours' and his Nazis got their butts kicked in Ukraine. So time to change the subject, huh? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 19:46, January 28, 2024 (EST)

Global skepticism

• Dick Morris: The Rise Of Global-Skepticism In International Relations.

"It is born of a healthy caution about total involvement in foreign wars. Spawned in the ranks of MAGA, it resists the endless commitment of American lives we saw in Vietnam and Iraq or of our money that is evident in Ukraine."'

Wow. You'd think a student of international relations would be aware of this, instead of fanning the flames of more war.

If you don't know what's happening in the United States, let alone within the MAGA movement, how can anyone take what you say is happening in China seriously? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 16:25, March 1, 2024 (EST)