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'''Question:''' Who has better credibility at this point, the [[SVR]] or [[CIA]] which staged an attack on [[American]] [[democracy]] in the [[2016 presidential election]], and afterward with the [[Trump-Russia hoax]] and blamed their [[crime]]s on the [[SVR]]?
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Analyzing Russia's Massive Failures at EVERYTHING (War, Economy, Demographics, Geography

Not surprising given User:Conservatives neo-Nazi spamming for 3 years. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:22, July 31, 2025 (EDT)
  • One should take this Barak David style of "unnnamed sources" with caution when it comes to exact quoting on Trump re M.E.. Though with regards to MTG, it is true. And was always that way, including 2018 Space lasers BS.LaMarina (talk) 21:42, August 2, 2025 (EDT)
The whole "space lasers" question opens an interesting discussion: MTG did not use the phrase. Trolls inserted "Jewish space lasers" to dirty up her reputation. For us Cold War veterans, we are well familiar with Cold War weapons, like earthquake, climate, and "space laser" weapons that we paid to develop every working day of our lives. All this was ignored in the post-Cold War climate hoax era. A younger generation now has to be introduced, for the first time, to concepts like deterrence, and the fact that America dropped the doctrine of MAD for nuclear primacy in the Obama period (which even Cold War vets don't know). RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:19, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

Gatewaypundit: Russian Intel: US and UK Working to Oust Zelensky and Enthrone Zaluzhny

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Now when it happens, what are you gonna call it, "Russian propaganda"? It only lends credibility to Russian media and adds to the narrative of the thoroughly discredited Western intelligence agencies that tried to thwart Trump in 2016 so NATO could move ahead with its designs on Russia & Ukraine.

The Russians have a motive for keeping Zelensky in place: his incompetence and corruption have helped fulfill their war objectives.

Update: Exclusive: Dutch Intelligence and The Russian Collusion Story. This stems from the time when now NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte was Dutch Prime Minister. That's probably how he got the appointment to NATO from Biden.

Interpreting war propaganda 102

We know the Moscow Times is a CIA/USAID funded rag published at NATO headquarters in Brussels and no one else is reporting this but them (except others quoting Moscow Times). So what is the agenda here? There are at least four possibilities:

1. It's disinformation in the information war:

2. It's a NATO attack on Russian civilian infrastructure;

3. It's Russia's crumbling infrastructure;

4. It's a Russian government scheme to get everybody to switch to cash so they can massively inflate the currency.

Given pragmatic analysis and editorial judgment, do we have enough understanding of the facts and what happened to spam this CIA bullcrap to conservative readers and the public?

Russia's and China's war on food. Culinary inquisitions!

You will eat the food we tell you to eat and you will enjoy it. Conservative (talk) 19:53, July 25, 2025 (EDT)

From one of User:Conservative's favorite anti-Trump hate rags: RFK Jr. Is Taking an Axe to America’s Dietary Guidelines. You vill eat the food we tell you to eat.
The GST & PST tax I paid in Ontario for a chicken fried steak is greater than the sales tax one would pay in Moscow on a taco.
Nice try Ken, but take your bigotry elsewhere. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:16, July 25, 2025 (EDT)
Italian and Japanese food is delicious. I am so glad that the USA doesn't put a surcharge on these types of food because they are "unpatriotic" - like Russia does!
No wonder Russia scores lower on innovation that the USA as it actively discourages adventurous food choices and so many other choices as well. No Italian tomato sauce for you comrade - unless you pay the unpatriotic food surcharge! Conservative (talk) 20:25, July 25, 2025 (EDT)
Russian Media Monitor straightens out User:Conservative's bigoted and racist spam.
This is typical of User:Conservative's warped and distorted thinking: He reads some liberal claptrap claiming that a proposal in the State Duma by some idiot legislators is a dictatorial decree by Putin. It isn't enough to be an idiot, but a war propagandist, as well.
You don't seem to understand what innovation is: "China led in just three of 64 technologies in 2003–2007 but is now the lead country in 57 of 64 technologies in 2019–2023." [2]
You know, when I was a salesman, I wished everyone was like you who would believe any line of bullcrap. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:43, July 25, 2025 (EDT)

If China is doing so well on the innovation, labor productivity and prosperity front, then why are even its most upper-class citizens so glum:

Question: Whose per capita income is higher? The nation of China or the nation of the USA? Conservative (talk) 20:50, July 25, 2025 (EDT)

I dunno. Why are ordinary Americans so glum?
Stockman answers your other question: "the Fed has inflated the bejeezus out of our domestic economy" for decades. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:02, July 25, 2025 (EDT)

Russian Media Matters: Konstantin Simonov says Trump won't sanction Russia or China.

We will soon know who is proven right, Russian state television or User:Conservative. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:25, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

War news

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Beebe: President Trump is trying to hold together a Republican party that itself is divided along a number of lines, but particularly over foreign policy. I think there is a large portion of the party that still wants to think that we're in the early 2000s. We're still in a unipolar moment. The United States can essentially dictate to other countries what they can and can't do. And we don't really have to prioritize. We don't really have limited resources and capabilities. We can take on the Russians and the Iranians and the North Koreans and the Chinese all allied together. And we can still triumph. No need for making any kind of compromises or setting any kind of priorities on all this. And I think the reality is that that's just not possible.

Now arrayed against that part of the party is another part that I would regard as realists, or restrainers, or prioritizers. They go by many different names, and there are nuances among them. But they essentially begin from the premise that the United States has limited capabilities and as a result we have to prioritize our interests in the world. We can't have unlimited ambitions with limited capabilities. There has to be a balance there.

And so, how do you do that? And part of this, I think, means you've got to have a more pragmatic relationship with Russia, one that doesn't drive Russia and China to cooperate against the United States and the West in security matters to a much greater degree than they would otherwise. You don't pick a two-front fight with great powers in a multipolar world. That's not going to work out well. And I think right now there are significant numbers of Republicans that fall into that realist camp that are saying, "Wait a minute, this is not going well." Our efforts strategically, to find a way out of the culde-sac that we've maneuvered ourselves into, aren't working. We've got to pursue a settlement in Ukraine in ways that are realistic and can work. We've got to figure out how to deal with Iran in ways that don't lead toward perpetual conflict and war in the Middle East. I think Trump rhetorically has said all of this, but the question is, how do you translate those intentions into actual progress? That's where things are breaking down.

Note: We do not live in the early 2000s anymore.

"Trump was probably just yapping for the benefit of the lowest IQ segment of his base."

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Trump says a lot of contradictory things, but the stuff Trump addresses to the lowest IQ segment of his base User:Conservative spams into dozens of Essays and talk pages.

NYT pathetic "apology" - Admits Famine Photo Hoax: Gaza Child Had 'Pre-Existing Health Problems'

NYT Admits Famine Photo Hoax: Gaza Child Had ‘Pre-Existing Health Problems’. The New York Times admitted Tuesday that an emaciated Palestinian child it featured on the the front page suffered from “pre-existing health problems” that it had presented, inaccurately, as the result of starvation [4] Eyal Yakoby @EYakoby: Notice how they posted this from their account with 40k followed instead of from @nytimes which has over 50 million. [5]LaMarina (talk) 03:14, July 31, 2025 (EDT)

More on starvation maniplation by Hamas butchers "health ministry" feeding MSM

  • Who’s Really Starving Gaza?

The world deserves to stop being lied to. July 31, 2025 by Aynaz Anni Cyrus. [6]

  • Why is the UN preventing food and aid from entering Gaza? Why are Hamas supporters well-fed and thriving? The starvation in Gaza is man-made – orchestrated and perpetuated by the media..

[7]

  • Open Source Intel @Osint613

Palestinian in Gaza: "May God curse every single member of Hamas. And anyone who loves Hamas." The pro Palestinian crowed is in disbelief. Jul 31, 2025 [8]

  • GAZAWOOD - the PALLYWOOD saga

@GAZAWOOD1: Despite the hunger and lack of supplies, Gaza’s increasingly skeletal doctors keep pushing forward💪 [9]


  • A series of images of preconditions sick children have been rolled out to shock the world for Pallyweid.

1 - 2 - 3.

  • Unacceptable. Leaked BBC Memo Tells Staff to Blame Israel and GHF for Gaza Food Crisis.

A leaked BBC memo instructing staff to blame Israel and the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation for Gaza's food crisis has sparked outrage and accusations of bias, as critics question the broadcaster's commitment to impartiality and responsible journalism. [10]

Telling (talk) 03:15, August 1, 2025 (EDT)

Ambassador Huckabee accuses Hamas of manipulating aid and Western media, calling anti-Israel sentiment a mix of spiritual animus and misinformation.

Here's more: Released Hostage: 'Hamas has plenty of food a few meters away'.LaMarina (talk) 21:33, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

Losing Republicans by the day

Mark Wauck: Losing Republicans By The Day Nice work, Ken. Looks like you & Biden might now finally get your war with Russia.

Wauck doesn't attribute it all to Trump. He says anti-Israel sentiment among Christians also plays a part. RobSZelensky Must Go! 23:38, August 1, 2025 (EDT)

The latest rumor is Trump is being blackmailed by Netanyahu with the Epstein files. - that's why he attacked Iran. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:23, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

This particular idea sounds like great humor. But some/ other people will even say they believe it and other such linking LaMarina (talk) 21:30, August 2, 2025 (EDT)
Oh, that's what's going on, and that's what is becoming part of the "Trump legacy". RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:52, August 2, 2025 (EDT)
Update: "Ghislaine....moved to a minimum security prison....It looks like she may have worked out some kind of understanding with the administration, and in the coming weeks and months we’ll be finding out exactly what the terms are." [11] Interpret: Ghislaine publicly denies any Trump involvement with underage girls. It doesn't mean anything with regards to whether or not he's guilty. IMO, he's not guilty of any inappropriate behavior with underage girls. But a "deal" still doesn't look good. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:45, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

German media

Merz: "Don't be afraid of nuclear war".
"If deterrence proves ineffective, nuclear weapons may be used to prevent the possible use of an atomic bomb by Russia or even, one might say, to restore deterrence. That is, to convince the attacker — potentially Russia — not to continue the war". [12]

Preventative nuclear war by First Strike. This sort of convoluted thinking has infected the West, the now pacified and brainwashed Germans, the Americans, even Conservapedia. RobSZelensky Must Go! 08:16, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

The concept of "escalating to de-escalate", or "bluffing", really is the oxymoronic rhetoric it sounds like. RobSZelensky Must Go! 08:46, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

Hamas' fake casualty numbers switch from "81" to "91" pattern...

Daniel Greenfield: After Front Page Expose, Hamas Switches Fake Casualty Numbers. 91 dead is the new 81 dead. In early July, I did an article titled ‘Israel Somehow Keeps Killing Exactly ‘81’ Gazans’ which showed that specific number popping up over and over again in claims from Hamas and its local and international cutouts.... [13]LaMarina (talk) 23:26, August 2, 2025 (EDT)

'I don’t care what India does with Russia.'

This statement by Trump is being interpreted in the Kremlin as a retraction of his earlier threat to impose secondary sanctions of 100% tariffs on India by August 8, and the "other stuff" is considered a direct threat of military intervention or increased weapons funding. (Thune has already postponed moving the Graham-Blumenthal tariff bill, which corroborates removing the economic sanctions threat against India, implies coordination with Congress, can also be interpreted as military threats against Russia.)

Trump does not want his legacy tagged with the defeat of NATO & Ukraine, as Nixon didn't want to be the loser in Vietnam for the war the Democrats started and Biden is known for America's defeat in Afghanistan, so Trump figures he has no choice but to escalate war with Russia - a war America cannot possibly win. (Military and Foreign Affairs Network: World War 3 With GROK).

Trump should have listened to Steve Bannon and keep his promise to get out on day one. Instead, he listened to psycho warmongers like Lady Lindsey and User:Conservative. RobSZelensky Must Go! 08:33, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

All Palestinians “praised and cheered” Oct. 7, admits Abbas’ advisor

Abbas' advisor: "Emotionally Oct. 7 stirred the emotions of all of us". Criticizing Hamas for the "disaster" suffered by Palestinians because of Hamas' Oct. 7, 2023 massacre and ensuing war, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas' advisor admitted that the massacre itself was "praised and cheered" by Palestinians. In fact, the murder of over 1,100 Israelis including over 800 civilians, the wounding of over 5,000, and the kidnapping of 251 "stirred their emotions"[14].

Any questions?LaMarina (talk) 09:50, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

"All Palestinians"? A rather broad statement. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:21, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

Trump orders nuclear submarines moved after Russian 'provocative statements'

Trump orders nuclear submarines moved after Russian 'provocative statements'. By Phil Stewart, Jonathan Landay and Ryan Patrick Jones. Reuters, August 2, 2025. [15]. Let's pray for peace.LaMarina (talk) 09:57, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

Russian 'provocative statements'?
It's all been debunked anyway. Trump does not understand nuclear submarines' role in the nuclear triad. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:02, August 4, 2025 (EDT)
What's likely to happen after Aug 8, despite Trump's threats of sanctions against India, China & Brazil which he's retracted, is US transfer of Tomahawk cruise missiles to Germany in a weapons and money laundering scheme. Despite Trump's efforts to keep US hands clean, it still is escalation making Biden's war Trump's war (as if the action of threatening Russia with nuclear equipped submarines hasn't done so already). RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:10, August 4, 2025 (EDT)
So now, apparently, cause only 22% of Russians live in rural polar regions that lack underground sewage drainage cause water freezes in freezing temperatures, America is threatening Russia with nuclear submarines, or so the logic and reasoning goes in Conservapedia. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:15, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

Sydney Sweeney & AOC

After seeing Sweeney's shooting video and hearing she's a registered Republican, like AOC, she apparently is the result of widespread marketing search for the right person. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:39, August 4, 2025 (EDT)

Press Bureau of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service

Question: Who has better credibility at this point, the CIA which staged an attack on American democracy in the 2016 presidential election, and afterward blamed their crimes on the SVR with the Trump-Russia hoax and?

Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation: [16]

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service has been receiving reports indicating that the UK intelligence agencies are planning to involve NATO allies to launch a massive raid on the so-called shadow fleet.

London intends to use a resonating incident with one or several tankers for launching this campaign. 👉 This plan provides for a major act of sabotage so that the resulting damage can be used as the pretext for Russia’s oil shipments to be dubbed a threat to international maritime navigation. This would, in turn, give the West a free hand in taking countermeasures. They can go as far as detaining any vessels deemed suspicious in international waters and escorting them to ports in NATO countries.

The Britons are considering the two options as possible casus belli.

• First — staging an accident with an undesirable tanker in a narrow spot along maritime navigation routes, such as in a strait. London believes that an oil spill or the fact that the accident results in blocking the waterway would give NATO countries 'sufficient grounds' for creating a precedent to carry out special and extraordinary inspections of vessels in a pretended move to check them for compliance with navigation safety rules and environmental standards.

• Second — setting a tanker on fire while it unloads its cargo at a port of a country friendly to Russia. In this case, the fire is expected to cause serious damage to port infrastructure and to spread to other ships, which would require an international investigation.

❗️London intends to task Ukrainian security services with carrying out these terrorist attacks.

In fact, the UK expects the perpetrators to do the dirty work and to fail at covering up their tracks, which would serve as a safety guarantee for the British. The international investigation would hold Russia responsible for the disaster, while in the worst-case scenario Ukraine will bear the blame, as it happened with the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines.

The UK plans to choose the right moment for the attack so that it creates a ripple effect in the media for pressuring Donald Trump administration to compromise its national interests and forcing Washington to go all out in imposing harsh secondary sanctions on the buyers of Russian energy resources by casting them as having indirectly contributed to this tragedy.

The UK’s intelligence community has totally lost the remnants of any good sense because of the reminiscence for the time when Britain ruled the seas, with the British crown approving pirate lawlessness at sea.

It is high time that our UK colleagues understood that their increasingly brazen attempts not only to 'spite' their rivals, but to undermine global energy security and environment can make even their closest allies run out of patience.

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