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The atheist PZ Myers, quoting fellow leftist Alex Nichols, said that jibes associating outspoken atheists with neckbeards (among other things) caused many liberals/leftists to leave the atheist tent and those who remained for the most part lacked in social skills and self-awareness.[1] See also: Atheism and social outcasts
If naturalism is true, then we ought not to trust our capacity for reason for the human brain would be a byproduct of blind/unintelligent natural forces. [2] Therefore, believing in naturalism is self-defeating.
In short, atheism/naturalism and reason are incompatible (see: Atheism and reason).[3] See also: Intelligent design and Evolution
According to an international study done by William Bainbridge, atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations (See also: Atheism and fertility rates).[4]
An ex-atheist wrote: "As an Atheist for 40 years, I noticed that there is not just a wide variety of Atheist positions, but there exists an actual battle between certain Atheist factions."[5] See also: Atheist factions and Schools of atheist thought
Jacques Rousseau wrote in the Daily Maverick: "Elevatorgate..has resulted in three weeks of infighting in the secular community. Some might observe that we indulge in these squabbles fairly frequently."[6]
In terms of politics and atheist infighting, there is friction between right-wing atheists (and right of center atheists) and secular leftist. See: Atheism and politics and Western atheism, schisms and political polarization
In 2017, atheist David Smalley has indicated that leftist/progressive atheists were "killing the atheist movement" through being contentious and divisive.[7] Smalley indicated that the atheist movement was disintegrating.[8]
The website Atheism and the City wrote about the 2018 cancellation of the first major atheist conference to be held in New York City:
| “ | But none of this is going to happen now because the event has just been canceled. The reasons why are complicated, but it started out difficult enough. The atheist community has splintered into a million shards in recent years. There are the atheist feminists and the atheist anti-feminists, the social justice warrior atheists and the anti-social justice warrior atheists. The pro-PC atheists and the anti-PC atheists. There are pro-Trump atheists and anti pro-Trump atheists. Atheists are split over gamergate, elevatorgate, whether we should organize, or whether we should even call ourselves atheists at all. The divisions go on and on.[9] | ” |
In 2017, the atheist PZ Myers, quoting fellow leftist Alex Nichols, wrote:
| “ | ...the growing popularity of jibes associating outspoken atheists with fedoras, neckbeards, and virginity, led to an exodus of liberals and leftists from the “atheist” tent. Those who remained for the most part lacked in social skills and self-awareness, and the results were disastrous.[10] | ” |
At the 2018 American Atheists convention, the ex-president of the American Atheist organization David Silverman declared:
| “ | It is a hard time to be an atheist activist. This has affected us. And it has affected our community...
...it has really affected us. We are suffering a level of defeatism that I have never seen before... And people are reacting to each other now. And so that is causing a division. Lots and lots of division in our movement. Hard, bad division... And that has resulted in a splintering and factioning of the movement that I have never seen before and none of us have. In other words, we're in a bad situation and it's getting worse.[11] |
” |
Numerous atheists have declared that the "atheist movement is dead/dying" (see: Decline of the atheist movement)[12]
Vox Day on unreasonable atheists
See also: Atheism and autism and Atheists and genetic mutations and Atheism and the brain
Vox Day frequently points out that atheists are neurologically atypical and are more prone to having autism and that they are "socially autistic".[13][14] See also: Atheism and autism and Atheists and genetic mutations
In 2011, the University of Boston published a study on the correlation between atheism and high-functioning/mild autism.[15][16]
On September 19, 2011, the Discover Magazine website had an article indicating that there were empirical results showing a positive correlation between atheism and high functioning autism and the article declared:
| “ | This is why the empirical results on the correlation between atheism and high functioning autism are important...
...some people were angry that I seemed to suggest that atheists were antisocial weirdos. Well, there is some data to back that up.[17] |
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Vox Day wrote:
| “ | Anklebiters are a brain-damaged form of midwit. They are almost always atheist, further pointing towards the atypical neurological profile required for that, they are usually male, and they tend to be unexpectedly poorly educated and badly read despite their observable intelligence. Most importantly, they lack the normal ability to admit failure, back up, and start over that normal individuals possess. And lacking it, they therefore lack any ability to improve their arguments or even to question any of their adopted beliefs.
That's why anklebiters are always disappearing when trounced, only to reappear again and make the exact same arguments that have already been dismissed. The problem, as BT notes, is that this renders them immune to dialectic, and they tend to ignore pure rhetoric because they are not emotionally invested in their nonsense arguments. The more virulent form, the trolls, are sociopathic and have no meaningful human emotions to which one can appeal. In effect, anklebiters are little more than genetically human bots, which is why there is no point in arguing with them or insulting them. They are not capable of adding anything to the discourse, so as soon as an anklebiter is identified, they are best ignored by the commenters and spammed by the moderators. There is no reason to concern oneself with how they look to the average stranger, because a) it's not your problem, b) MPAI, and c) their own bizarre behavior will expose them sooner or later.[18] |
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According to the article Social-Sexual Hierarchy Revisited:
| “ | About six years ago, Vox Day published his socio-sexual hierarchy.
Alpha – The top of the hierarchy. President Donald Trump is an Alpha. He’s confident, boisterous, and handsome... Delta – The normal guy. Most men are Deltas... Gamma – These men would be low-end Deltas if they did not think of themselves as being secretly Alpha. They are secret kings in their own mind and believe themselves to be worthy of admiration, which is often undeserved... They are also on the unattractive side in terms of looks but don’t seem to understand or accept this. Of all people in this hierarchy, the Gamma needs the most improvement but often times rejects criticism or even helpful advice, instead believing themselves to be gods among men. Very dangerous if given any kind of power. Omega – The low-end of the tier. Omegas are usually unattractive, introverted, and unsuccessful with women.[20] |
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Vox Day also wrote:
| “ | I know, I know, it's simply astonishing news that women hate atheists. Even atheist women don't like them.
Look, it's hardly news that atheist guys are creepy gammas, for the most part. That's why they are much less likely to get married or have children. Even the small number of atheist girls don't like atheist guys; the ludicrous internecine kerfluffle was kicked off by a male atheist hitting on female atheist in an elevator... Dawkins, who as a scientific celebrity surmounted his natural gamma status some time ago, was naturally confused by all this extravagant feminized foolishness, and pointed out how stupid it all was. This caused more hissy fits to be directed his way; Dawkins, being the coward that he has shown himself to be on numerous occasions, was naturally quick to crumble. Now, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to be hapless with women to be an atheist... No wonder they're so furious at God. He created all those lovely women with those beautiful breasts and they aren't even allowed to even talk to them in elevators.[21] |
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Vox Day also wrote:
| “ | The dichotomy between the theoretical sexual freedom of the male atheist provided by his belief system and his actual sexual limitations caused by his sub-standard attractiveness to women suggests that male atheists, on average, are more inclined to be gamma/omega males whose sexual options are more restricted than the norm. This hypothesis is supported by observing the consistently gamma behavior of male atheists on this site and around the Internet in general.[22] | ” |
See also:
- Atheism and lust
- Atheists and physical attractiveness
- Atheism and sexuality
- Atheism and social skills
- Atheism and social outcasts
Notes
- ↑ Poisoning of a movement by PZ Myers
- ↑
- C.S. Lewis' argument from reason
- C.S. Lewis and the Argument from Reason by Jay W. Richards, November 25, 2013
- C.S. Lewis and Materialism by John G. West
- C.S. Lewis On The Validity of Reasoning
- C.S. Lewis on Rationality and Materialism
- Naturalism's Hot Water
- ↑
- C.S. Lewis' argument from reason
- C.S. Lewis and the Argument from Reason by Jay W. Richards, November 25, 2013
- C.S. Lewis and Materialism by John G. West
- C.S. Lewis On The Validity of Reasoning
- C.S. Lewis on Rationality and Materialism
- Naturalism's Hot Water
- ↑ Bainbridge, William (2005). "Atheism" (PDF). Interdisciplinary Journal of Research on Religion. 1 (Article 2): 1–26.
- ↑ An atheist new world order? Is the Rational Response Squad making an attempt?
- ↑ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can rip my soul
- ↑ Reasonably Controversial: How the Regressive Left Is Killing the Atheist Movement by David Smalley
- ↑ Reasonably Controversial: How the Regressive Left Is Killing the Atheist Movement by David Smalley
- ↑ The Atheist Conference is Dead
- ↑ Poisoning of a movement by PZ Myers
- ↑ David Silverman - How the Mighty Get Back Up
- ↑
- The “Atheism Movement:” Dead or Alive?, Freethought Blogs
- Atheist activist Seth Andrews keeps seeing reports on social media and the media that the atheist movement is dying, Examining Atheism
- Atheist Aron Ra indicates the atheist movement is dead. Now that that Aron Ra has surrendered...., Examining Atheism
- The Day the Atheist Movement Died by Jack Vance at Atheist Revolution
- Jennifer McCreight on Twitter about the Elevatorgate scandal destroying the atheist movement, Jen McCreight, Twitter
- ↑ Atheists and autism search - Vox Day's blog
- ↑ The socially autistic atheist
- ↑ Religious Belief Systems of Persons with High Functioning Autism, Catherine Caldwell-Harris, Caitlin Fox Murphy and Tessa Velazquez at the Department of Psychology - Boston University); Patrick McNamara (Department of Neurology, Boston University School of Medicine)
- ↑ Is atheism linked to autism? Controversial study points to relationship between the two, Daily Mail, 20 September 2011
- ↑ What atheism and autism may have in common By Razib Khan, September 19, 2011]
- ↑ Mailvox: Dealing with anklebiters, Vox Day
- ↑ President Donald J. Trump Stands Up For Religious Freedom In The United States, WhiteHouse.gov, May 3, 2018
- ↑ Social-Sexual Hierarchy Revisited
- ↑ Atheists in Gamma Hell
- ↑ Mailvox: the implications of evolution
