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NATO war propaganda hits new low

Propaganda fail: According to the UK Sun, Russia operates German Leopard 2 tanks and Ukraine uses Lancet drones.

According to the UK Sun, Russians operate Leopard 2 tanks and Ukraine uses Lancet drones. [1] (Read the comments if you don't believe it).

When consuming propaganda, bear in mind the content creators begin from the premise that you are stupid. Nowhere is this more evident than in Karen Dawisha's book, Putin's Kleptocracy, which few people have read. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:08, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

Doug MacGregor comments on the role atheism plays in globalism. They Pushed The Russians Too Hard And Now They're All Doomed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:04, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

The Big Push has arrived

When Sevastopol becomes a NATO base, we'll know we've won the war: "Ukraine Steps Up Counteroffensive With Big Push in the South." PeterKa (talk) 08:54, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. They need manpower, tanks, and aircover to do it. They have none (rather, rapidly running out).
Propaganda alone cannot win a war. This seems to be the major flaw in contemporary US/NATO doctrine. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:42, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
No Sane Person Goes to War against Russia (Military Textbook Ch. 1 Par. 1). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:22, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
What is this? Guy expounding on Russian history from behind the steering wheel of his car? At least he's belted in. He'll be ready to move as soon as traffic breaks up. PeterKa (talk) 21:38, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
The guy meets Wikipedia Notability Guidelines for his own bio page. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:20, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
Scenario: About November 2023, the Biden regime will begin waving the white flag; Victoria Nuland, who can cuss in Russian like a Russian sailor, has been appointed to the negotiating team. The problem with this scenario as laid out in open source from US leaks is, the Russians will not acquiesce to any NATO presence east of the Polish border. Yet the Biden regime proceeds as if it's a done deal. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:48, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
Biden needs to show results before the New Hampshire primary in January. Ukraine will get the Abrams tank in September and the F-16 by the end of the year, just in time to defeat RFK Jr. PeterKa (talk) 21:28, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
(a) it won't go that far; (b) the first F-16 that crosses into Ukraine airspace means Polish airstrips & Ramstein get nuked, or at least hit with Kinzhals and Iskanders (this is why US involvement won't last until Feb 2024); (c) the only alternate scenario is the Russo-Polish war (Poland has reserved some ammo and equipment for itself, but the US has run out and can't help. Poland does have manpower however, that can be fed into the meatgrinder since the Ukrainians are running out). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:29, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
Note on manpower needs: Ukraine entered the 2022 conflict with the largest standing military and reserves in Europe. Its army was larger than France, Germany, and the United Kingdom combined. They are all dead now. Ukraine is rebuilding its army for the fourth time in this conflict now, with the average age being 37, with no prior military training or experience. And it doesn't have the combat-experienced officers either to rebuild with.
Note on Poland: Poland's dreams of empire have to get past the voters first in the October 2023 elections, assuming the globalists won't rig that election, either. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:25, July 28, 2023 (EDT)
Polish update: Being that Planet Earth knows the Wagner group is a rogue outfit outside Moscow's control, if the Wagner group were to invade Poland, NATO cannot legally justify invoking Article 5 against Russia. Wagner will easily take the NATO base at Rzeszow in Poland.
Biden would have to invoke the Bush Doctrine against Belarus, by the precedent of holding the Taliban responsible for harboring Al Qaeda. Of course an attack against Belarus is an attack against all 85 constituent republics of the Russian Federation.
It's a game of chicken; let a NATO member state kill a single Wagner fighter or Belarussian soldier on Belarussian territory from a NATO member states' territory, and see what happens. This scenario will likely play out once fighting between Wagner & Polish "peacekeepers" commence in Western Ukraine (and we won't even go into false flag scenarios). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:25, July 28, 2023 (EDT)

AI in drone warfare

For the first time in warfare, in Bradley Square, we are seeing drones equipped with artificial intelligence seeking out and choosing for themselves which targets to destroy. [2] The era of "precision guided" munitions is past. I'm sure AI robotic warfare is a relief to a lot of people's conscience. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:12, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

Background: Russia entered the war with basically only one drone design, the Orlan, which looks like a hobby model available at any hobby shop. Each artillery unit had an Orlan for spotting and correcting (which the US and NATO does not have) and proved very effective. Russia acquired the Lancet (or Geranium) design from Iranian Shaid drone. It has proven extremely cost-effective. Russia is now building 1 million Lancets.
IMO, one motive behind NATO's provoking Russia to war is to discover more about its electronic warfare and other advanced technologies. It needs this, if the US really is intent on provoking the Taiwan crisis. The US needs to know how to defeat the S-400 and S-500, seeing that Russia would share that technology with China if the Taiwan provocation plays out. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:38, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
IOWs, while the US is said to have "air superiority", Russia is generally recognized as having the most advanced and superior missile defense systems on the planet (a jet aircraft is also a "missile"). Before spending more money on more advanced US aircraft, the US wants to force Russia's hand to lay some of its cards on the table about its missile defense systems, rather than US designers having to rely on guess work. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:55, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
The German Leopard 2 tank, the supposed most advanced tank on the planet, is a good example of relying on guess work in its design. Of course, you don't really know how effective a weapon is going to be - no matter how much money you put into the project - until it is combat tested. The Leopard fails. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:06, July 28, 2023 (EDT)
IOWs, that world depicted in the 1984 film The Terminator, where the robots with artificial intelligence rise up to exterminate the remaining human population, is here. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:43, July 31, 2023 (EDT)
In addition to AI, facial recognition is being tested on kamikaze drones. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:21, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
So it's not just a matter of sending you a ticket for J-walking anymore - they can wipe you out with a drone, as well. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:24, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

West scrambles to hash out details of F-16 Training for Ukraine

Say it with me. NATO Population: 1 BN, Russia: 150 MN; NATO GDP: >40 TN, Russia GDP: <2 TN. There is no way Russia can win this War.

"The scramble by the West comes as Ukraine calls for additional military capabilities to break through Russian defenses on the battlefield. And Ukraine is ramping up pressure on allies to send F-16s again this week, as Russia pulled out of a deal that allowed civilian ships to transport grain through the Black Sea; Ukraine’s foreign minister said Tuesday that the jets could help protect a corridor that is vital to global food security.

One training proposal that has been discussed involves bringing Ukrainian pilots to the United States to receive instruction from the 162nd Air Wing, an Air National Guard unit based in Tucson, Ariz., that already trains foreign partners on the F-16."

From: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/25/west-ukraine-f-16-training-00108111 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:48, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Those numbers are screwed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:01, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
The Russian Foreign Ministry and Ministry of Defense could not be more clear (and they do not need to repeat it over and over and over again): If they see an F-16 flying east over Ukraine territory, they will regard it as a nuclear attack. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:44, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
IOWS put succinctly - all the talk from Western sources reported in Western media about Ukrainian pilots trained on F-16s and supplying Ukraine with F-16s is interpreted in Moscow as making nuclear threats (it does not matter if Western MSM fails to understand or report that fact). Please, stop spewing Western veiled nuclear threats in Main Page talk. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:55, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
The Russian military has no way to discern if an F-16 flying east over Ukraine is armed with a nuclear or conventional bomb, has stated they will assume it is nuclear equipped, and will respond accordingly. Period. Paragraph, End of Statement. Please desist. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:59, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
The propaganda in the Politico article posted is what you call "bluster", and if the sources quoted are serious, they are insane madmen. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:05, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
Russia becomes world's 5th largest economy and largest in Europe, surpassing Germany despite sanctions. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:08, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands

My prediction that the War will likely end by end 2024 or in about 1.5 years is looking pretty good right now. This breaking from Reuters.

"WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.

Ukraine has actively sought the U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to help it counter Russian air superiority.

Washington gave Denmark and the Netherlands official assurances that the United States will expedite approval of transfer requests for F-16s to go to Ukraine when the pilots are trained, the official said."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approves-sending-f-16s-ukraine-denmark-netherlands-2023-08-17/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:56, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

I know you follow MSM, but right now the experts are giving the Zelensky regime's life expectancy about 4-5 weeks.
As to the F-16s, they will be stripped down and the pilots are just sacrificial lambs to see how the Russians destroy the planes.
One of the big problems with F-16 is, they need a special runway that doesn't exist in Ukraine; so if they take off from Poland or Romania, that is an act of war originating from those countries. So they have to take off from these shortened runways in Ukraine. NATO is just paying close attention to how long it takes for the Russian forces to detect them and respond, with what kind of electronic warfare, and how they will destroy them. It's just basic research the MIC needs to build into the F-35.
And the Russians won't use their top-of-the-line technology to destroy them. They'll use older Soviet stuff that NATO has probably never faced.
Now sure, in the F-16s first or second run they may get lucky, make a few hits, and return to base alive, which will get maximum air play for propaganda purposes. But by the third run the Russians will have it figured out, how to make the kill shot without revealing too much about their modern weapons systems (radar detection and missile defense). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:26, August 17, 2023 (EDT)
The Leopard 2, for example, "the best main battle tank on the planet", didn't last one day in combat. Now it's the UK Challenger's turn. Next is the Abrams. They send them in in such limited, small numbers, not cause they expect them to be useful or "win" (a "gamechanger") in combat, but to discover their vulnerabilities and information about Russian offensive weapons. It's just experimental under real combat conditions. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:47, August 17, 2023 (EDT)
Shoigu already said Russia will regard F-16s as a nuclear threat, and I just heard it repeated (the Russians are not in the habit of repeating themselves; they basically make an official statement once and leave it at that. They don't play the Western media game of tit-for-tat rhetoric timed for news cycles, but I;ll watch to see if had to be repeated). Sometimes they may give a gentle reminder on their policy, but they are not required to answer all the bluster coming from the West everytime somebody talks smack. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:05, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
{Note: In diplomatic language, there is a difference between a "nuclear threat" and a "nuclear attack".) RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:43, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
The Russians will use that Reuters report and/or whoever it came from as simply more evidence how they are disrespected and ignored in the West. The West can laugh it off, but it carries weight in Russian domestic propaganda. So when you get clobbered with a nuke, don't say you weren't warned. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:08, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

If Putin was going to use Nukes, he would have used them long ago. Not to mention nuked Prighozin among others. He won't do it because he knows it'll be the end of him, and he loves his power, status and wealth - most of it ill-gotten, by some accounts he's the world's richest man, unjustly so - see this: "The Kremlin claims that Putin earns an annual salary of $140,000. His publicly disclosed assets include an 800-square foot apartment, a trailer, and three cars. But according to some experts, he may be the wealthiest man in the world with assets totaling up to $200 billion.02-Mar-2022" https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/vladimir-putin-net-worth-2022/ - too much ever to risk it. Putin shouldn't have started this War, he probably feels that way too now himself, but his ego and pride won't let him let go. All he needs to do is retreat back to his own Territory and it'll be over. But he doesn't want to do that and he won't do it until soundly defeated. He's used the "E-word" Escalation too much for it to be credible or meaningful anymore, kinda like the Boy who cried Wolf. And so, Ukraine will calmly do its duty to defend its own Territory, its own Soil, and its 40+ Million citizens whom Thug Putin is Robbing of their Happiness, their Dreams, their Future, their Security and their Prosperity. But not for long because they're rightly fighting back. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:29, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

You can't have it both ways - saying Putin is an irrational madman but rational enough not to use nukes. "A world without Russia isn't worth living in" - Vladimir Putin. "We go to Paradise, but they won't have time to repent." - Vladimir Putin.
Putin didn't start the war.
The same nuclear scenario regarding F-16s over Ukrainian airspace will occur with or without Putin. It'll happen even if Putin had never been born. Putin has little to say over Russian Federation nuclear doctrine. In fact, Putin really isn't a military man at all. The nuclear doctrine was scripted by others.
Here again, you are a victim of Western propaganda. Unlike the United States, the decision to use a nuke does not rest in the hands of one man, as in the US. The battlefield commander armed with a nuke, in both Soviet and Russian Federation nuclear doctrine, rests in the hands of the battlefield commander armed with a nuke. (So once the decision is made to transfer a nuke in the hands of a commander, for example the decision to arm President Lukashenko with a nuke, it is out of Moscow's hands). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:04, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Put succinctly, if Shoigu and the boys in the Kremlin transfer a nuke into Gen. Surovikan's hands, Surovikin has full authority to use it at his discretion, under Russian nuclear doctrine. He only needs to report using it back to the Kremlin afterward. That decision has already been made, and Putin was only one voice or vote in making that decision to transfer a nuke into a certain commanders' hands. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:07, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Under Russian doctrine, the Russian Ministry of Defense can hand out 20 or 30 nukes to battlefield commanders all over the planet, and each one independently, alone, has sole discretion, power, and authority to use it. The simple fact you (a) don't understand this, or (b) refuse to accept this fact and are fixated on Vladimir Putin, shows the extent of how badly you have willingly subjected yourself to Western media brainwashing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:13, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
This shows the colossal mistake NATO governments and their controlled media made in the early days of the propaganda war, by mocking the Russian military and its commanders. Russian battlefield commanders, of which there are dozens, are better trained and qualified, with better judgment of under what circumstances the use of nuclear weapons may be necessary than Joe Biden, or any NATO commander, or any nuclear armed NATO member head of state or head of government. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:44, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
No, the rest of the planet does not necessarily follow the US model, where one man (supposedly) is in control of nukes (under Trump, remember, even that was questioned). In fact, following the American model or example of how a government should be structured is much at the heart of how and why this war began. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:19, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Take Pakistan, for example: when Benazir Bhutto was elected President, she had no idea who was in control of Pakistan's nukes, which individual or group of individuals made the decision to launch, or where they were even located until the CIA informed her. But that still didn't give her any authority. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:23, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

So let's get into the details of what Putin is describing here with the MAW (Missile Advance Warning) system. An F-16 is a (manned) missile. The MAW system detects launch, approach, and trajectory. Shoigu and others have repeatedly stated, they cannot determine whether a "nuclear capable" F-16 is or is not armed with a nuclear weapon, therefore they will regard it as a nuclear threat. Sure, you can mock the Russian MAW system as 20 years behind technological standards of the West, but too bad - the Russians have stated their position and NATO understands it. "We go to Paradise, but they won't have time to repent." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:16, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

As to the "E-word", escalation is not spontaneous. Escalation has all been gamed-out on both sides. You can see videos of escalation being "gamed-out" over Taiwan on YouTube. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:38, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

F-16 FOR UKRAINE: STEP TOWARDS GLOBAL NUCLEAR WAR:

"The United States has finally approved the transfer of F-16 fighter jets from Denmark and the Netherlands to Ukraine upon completion of pilot training. There are no more obstacles to the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine, Copenhagen said.
The United States agreed to train Ukrainian pilots on the F-16. The aircraft could be reportedly sent to Ukraine by the end of the year. Denmark and the Netherlands joined the training program, supported by the USA, Belgium, France and the UK.
The Kremlin stated that since the F-16 is capable of carrying nuclear warheads the transfer of F-16s to Kiev would be considered a nuclear threat from the West." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:47, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Larry Johnson report

CIA analyst (there is no such thing as "ex-CIA" contrary to most MSM reports, unless you are dead) Larry Johnson reports today (corroborating much of my spiel above), beginning with a quote from WaPo:

WaPo: The bleak outlook, briefed to some Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, has already prompted a blame game inside closed-door meetings. Some Republicans are now balking at President Biden’s request for an additional $20.6 billion in Ukraine aid given the offensive’s modest results. Other Republicans and, to a lesser extent, hawkish Democrats have faulted the administration for not sending more powerful weapons to Ukraine sooner.
U.S. officials reject criticisms that F-16 fighter jets or longer-range missile systems such as ATACMS would have resulted in a different outcome. “The problem remains piercing Russia’s main defensive line, and there’s no evidence these systems would’ve been a panacea,” a senior administration official said.

Johnson: "During my time at CIA we had an expression for the Captain Obivious conclusion — we called it, “No Sh*t Analysis.” The F-16 is not a wunder waffen. It has no magical powers. It is an aircraft that can readily be identified by Russia’s robust, integrated air defense system and it will be shot down. God pity the pilots of those planes if they ever make it to the theater of battle.

The publication of this article in the Washington Post is just another sign of flagging U.S. support for Ukraine. This is sending a signal that the U.S. intel community is no longer on the Ukraine band wagon." [3]

RobS' comment: "Russia’s robust, integrated air defense system" is exactly what I spoke of above - the MIC wants Russia to lay some of its cards on the table about its modern "integrated air defense system" for research into the design of the F-35. Russia will try to hide as much as they can while using older systems. And Johnson pointedly refers to what I called Ukraine's "sacrificial lamb" pilots used on a suicide mission. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:19, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Simplicius' take

Simplicius gives the same analysis, albeit from a Russian perspective [4] (quoted at length):

I view the delivery of such planes as a very good thing. I’ve said since the beginning that all the most advanced Western arms provide essential training to Russian forces, who need to learn how to fight against these systems for the sake of a potential future war against NATO proper.

That means Russian AD operators, fighter pilots, etc., will all get critical experience on dealing with one of NATO’s top aircraft, including registering their characteristics into their radar registries for enhanced identification purposes.

Such a rare opportunity to go up against and study these types of systems in a ‘low risk’ environment is crucial. It’s better to go up against them now, in Ukrainian hands and low numbers, while learning their secrets and weaknesses, than experiencing them for the first time in a full-fledged war against NATO where hundreds/thousands of them are deployed at the same time in a far more uncontrollable setting.

Sure it may seem callous to want Ukraine to have better/more advanced weaponry because the argument is that some Russians will lose their lives from this, but you have to see things in a broader view. It will save more lives in the long term, in light of a much larger future war, if they can master combating these systems now.

The F-16 is not a "gamechanger". Both Zelensky and defense minister Reznikov have said Ukraine is a testing ground for NATO weapons. It's not just tragic, but in the case of Zelensky we need to examine the moral question how he is willing to trade the lives of his own people for money as a proxy in a great power game he knows Ukraine will emerge as a loser. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:48, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Future War Is Here

How Ukrainians retrieve bodies of their fallen cannonfodder.

Yep, Zelensky turned Ukraine into an experimental proving ground for Western military technology. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:27, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Note: rigor mortis hasn't set in in this particular subject; see also Profiting from War and Death: The Organ Harvesting Business in Ukraine. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:32, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Update: One Russian sources using this video claims the soldier is wounded and not dead. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:04, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Must read

Last Stop Before Willoughby (2 min read). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:43, August 9, 2023 (EDT)

Teroborona update from American transgender spokes-thing (we don't want to be prosecuted for using the wrong pronouns) in Kiev

[5] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:16, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

RWA (Russians With Attitude): Sarah Ashton-Cirillo is a Kremlin Agent. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:40, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Analysis: It ought to be obvious Sarah Ashton-Cirillo has been hired by the Zelensky regime/CIA to teach English to Ukraine children using idioms and common rhetoric they hear daily in the Ukrainian language. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:28, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Wow. Russian political scientist says it all in 39 secs.

[6] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:16, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Good lesson in discerning propaganda from Emil Cosman (first 1 1/2 minutes)

[7] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:23, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Scott Ritter interview with Soloviev

Scott Ritter interview with Soloviev. Soloviev is fluent in English. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:12, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Polish Army soon to be the strongest in Europe

"Polish Army getting ready for any confrontation against Wagner! Polish Army will soon be the strongest in Europe! 500+ HIMARS 600 heavy artillery 1000 K2 tanks 96 apaches 32 F-35’s 48 light combat aircraft (#UkraineRussianWar️ #Poland" From Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/JamesPower91/status/1690681947360477184

See also: "Poles have been on quite the buying spree including 366 Abrams, 32 F-35 fighters. From Korea: 180 K2 Black Panther tanks, 200 K9 howitzers, 48 FA-50 light attack aircraft, and 218 K239 rocket launchers with more many to come by decade's end. Belarus should be very careful :)" https://twitter.com/UkraineDiary/status/1693712502553473420 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:58, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Yep. And what a tragedy that is. The Polish adult male population (aged 15 on up) are the next to be targeted for extermination as cannon fodder in the NATO trained and equipped meatgrinders. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:13, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
Wake up and smell the bleach. Reporting that Poland is going to replace Ukraine as Europe's strongest NATO proxy is an admission Ukraine got its butt kicked and was defeated with NATO training and equipment. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:15, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

"he could analyze the position of the Catholic bishops of Ukraine. He instead considers Ukrainians only as an object of manipulations by western globalists and that is offensive to us. Our country is not just a battlefield between the United States and Russia, it is a sovereign country with a population of about 40 million people with one of the biggest areas in Europe. And it is our country that was attacked by Russia, and it is our army that spends a war for the freedom of our people." https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/interview-priest-society-saint-josaphat-war-ukraine-73867

Poland and NATO are going to win. Its over for the Kremlin. This or that skirmish aside, that will be the long term result.

The numbers, the results, the weapons, the relative population and gdp of Russia and NATO etc leave little doubt about that conclusion.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:26, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine lost its sovereignty. It's owned by BlackRock now. Only BlackRock will have to negotiate with Putin (through the US State Department or whatever intermediary) for what the borders of the rump state will be, only NATO will not be there to defend it after the negotiations and agreement are finalized. My guess is, BlackRock may wish to liquidate their holdings at a loss eventually. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:33, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
Poland update (elections in October): Poland’s Ruling Party Is Panicking After A Rural Populist Just Allied With The Opposition. NATO-backed warmongers may be on their way out, if you can trust democracy and globalists haven't rigged Poland's elections. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:07, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

In Britain, both Ruling Party and Opposition are Pro-Ukraine. In Poland, have you checked how it is? I haven't, so might check later, but I suspect it could be the same. It is Russia/the Kremlin that wants to steal Ukraine's Sovereignty. Ukraine is caught between "the devil and the deep blue sea", between "a rock and a hard place" as the sayings go. It will need NATO and EU support, as well as of private enterprises to rebuild its economy which Russia destroyed. But it remains a Sovereign Nation with a Wartime President whom some 90% of its citizens support, as I posted down below. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:10, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Too bad the UK is not a democracy, huh? It's just another totalitarian globalist slave state with a controlled media, worse than Canada or the US, about to face more covid lockdowns, mask mandates, and vaccine mandates. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 07:59, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
Christian woman arrested for praying in her head outside UK abortion clinic. This would never happen in Putin's Russia. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 08:03, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
Right now, we need to focus on denazifying the White House. And DeSantis is in bed with the globalist money donors who support the Deep State. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 08:12, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

I'm aware of that UK Incident, and I posted it here on Conservapedia and condemned it. It would never happen in De Santis' America either, yet you are unwilling to help do your part to make that happen, thus letting down your Christian brothers and sisters and handing them to the Woke Mob. Only De Santis is a Credible Culture Warrior and Conservative Christian Candidate who can beat the WOKE Pro-Abort/LGBT Left. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:19, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Update: Recorded Polish casualties in Ukrainian conflict exceed 10,000, 15% of its force. According to a report by the Myśl Polska news agency in late August 2023, the number of Polish casualties in the ongoing conflict in Ukraine exceeded 10,000. This staggering figure has serious implications for both Poland and its military establishment, especially given that a significant proportion of the dead have been identified as Polish army reservists. This number of deaths would be more than 15% of all Polish ground forces. While some of these victims are referred to as volunteers and mercenaries, the majority are identified as Polish active duty soldiers and reservists.

Poll: 95% of Ukrainians trust Military, nearly 90% want to join NATO

"Some 95% of Ukrainians trust the Armed Forces of Ukraine and 80% trust President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to the poll published on June 30 by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) and the National Democratic Institute (NDI).

Up to 94% of respondents said it is important to have a fully functioning democracy, which is a significant increase compared to 76% in December 2021." https://kyivindependent.com/poll-95-ukrainians-trust-military-80-trust-zelensky/

See also: In February 2023, over 90 percent of the Ukrainian population approved of the activities of Volodymyr Zelenskyy as the president of the country. The approval rating was at approximately the same level as in June 2022. Zelenskyy's popularity within the country was significantly higher in 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine, than in 2021."https://www.statista.com/statistics/1100076/volodymyr-zelensky-s-approval-rating-ukraine/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:04, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, the Kyiv Independent, you mean the CIA/NED mouthpiece. That's nice to know. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:13, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
What this propaganda piece means is, after the civilian Zelensky regime collapses in another month or so and Zelensky flees, Gen. Zaluzhnyi or Syrsky takes over as president and head of a military junta, then opens negotiations with Russia. Russia however has no reason to talk, and will demand all NATO advisors leave and NATO arms shipments cease before any peace negotiations begin. So follow the status of Biden's $24 billion request in Congress, cause that must stop right there first before there can be any peace talks.
As to this Article 5 stuff in the Politico piece below, forget it. It's NATO trying to cover its butt after its defeat and disaster. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 08:52, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Reuters: Russia lost 3.3 Trillion Rubles in just the First Half of this Year in the Form of Reduced Oil Revenues

"MOSCOW, July 5 (Reuters) - The Russian budget's oil and gas revenues fell by 47% to 3.38 trillion roubles ($37.4 billion) in the first half of the year from the same period in 2022, finance ministry data showed on Wednesday, as tax returns fell because of lower prices and sales volumes." https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-oil-gas-budget-revenues-almost-halved-january-june-2023-07-05/

Poor Russia. If I lived in Russia, and Putin had asked me about the decision to invade, I'd have said: "For the Love of God/Christ, and for the Love of Russia, don't do it!" Leaving aside the Morality and Violation of Just War, this is an Economically Poor Decision.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:22, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Meaningless. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 08:29, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Typical Nazi brainwashing and forced confessions by Ukrainian gestapo

If they were males, they'd be sent to the front and killed within hours. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:44, August 28, 2023 (EDT)

Breaking MSM headlines: Ukrainian victory at Rabotino

Ukrainians in Rabotino. per WP, Rabotino population 12 in 2002. Hope it was worth the lives of every Ukrainian soldier you, the American taxpayer sent into the meatgrinder, if they can hold it before the entire front collapses and Zelensky flees to Italy]. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:48, August 28, 2023 (EDT)

Fox News: Russia has lost over 250,000 Troops, beside many Planes etc

"Ukraine says Russia has lost 250K troops since Putin first invaded, Zelenskyy shares triumphant message Ukraine said its military also destroyed 315 Russian planes, over 4,200 tanks and nearly 5,000 artillery systems"

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-russia-lost-250000-troops-putin-first-invaded-zelenskyy-shares-triumphant-message

Further: ""Ukraine will win this war," Zelenskyy said on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

"The world will win this war. The truth will win this war," he added. "The key thing is for all of us in Ukraine and everyone in the world who values normal life to work one hundred percent without a break for the sake of victory." Yup, we must. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:54, August 29, 2023 (EDT)

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