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July 7, 2023

Interesting, Jill Lepore on the great Mrs. P. Schlafly [1] (FiringLine, Jul 7, 2023).Telling (talk) 17:53, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the link!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:55, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

NP. Quote from Lepore: ..I think Schlafly’s just fascinating. She really has been ignored by historians for two reasons. One, academic historians, who tend to be liberal, have really been bad at offering a history of the rise of the modern conservative movement, this just tremendously important political insurgency, you know, since the 1950s, of which, you know, Buckley’s Firing Line was an important element. And then conservative historians just haven’t really paid attention to Schlafly because she was a woman.Telling (talk)

That's a very interesting quote. Thank you. Perhaps there could be a new entry that devoted to this issue.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:28, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Tnanks Andy. Your opinion on this please?Telling (talk)

It's superb! Very well done. Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:23, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

Request

Hi Andy, can you please tell Karajou that I'm deeply sorry for my iniquities against him two years ago during the massive intra-Conservapedia dispute and that I would be interested in talking to him again? Thanks. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 15:22, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Don't fall for it Andy. It's just another one of these conspiracies to sow division in Conservapedia and attack active editors. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:04, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you insisted over and over again 2–3 years ago that if Karajou was defrocked, you would be able to fix Conservapedia. Your promise at this point can be clearly seen as a broken one. All you've done is turn the site into a laughingstock. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 16:33, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

How many blocks and vandal attacks have we had in the past 8-9 months? There used to be a half dozen daily.

I never said Kara should be defrocked; I said he needed to be reined in and counselled on the proper role and duties of an Admin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:00, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

"i nEvEr" Oh really? How many more instances of liberal denial will you propagate before I pull out a list of receipts proving the liar you are? "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 18:25, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Misuing and misquoting scripture is "taking the Lord's name in vain". I never claimed to be descended from Abraham. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:43, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Does an individual have to incorrectly claim to have Abraham as their father to qualify as a child of Satan? The basic concept is applied, both overtly and covertly, throughout the Bible. The Apostle Paul told Elymas the Sorcerer: "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 21:21, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Now you're trolling Andy's talk page. This discussion should be moved elsewhere. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:05, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

You're one to talk on the issue of trolling! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 22:14, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

What goes around comes around. Do unto others. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:21, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

The importance of diversification and resiliency. The tale of the followers of a tired and dying ideology whose web traffic is dying

Andy, since March of 2023 the website Internet Infidels lost 50% of its traffic.

Western atheism had too many eggs in the Richard Dawkins and secular leftism basket. Dawkins is far less popular (See: Richard Dawkins' loss of influence). And now that Joe Biden is very unpopular and Europe is moving to the political right, that further hurt the atheistic cause and this is only going to get worse due to right-wing populism growing. On top of this, the mainstream media has lost a lot of trust and they used to promote atheism more in the past (See: Atheism and public relations). Also, people with professor values promoted atheism and many colleges are closing.

I predict that the next economic recession is going to REALLY hurt the atheistic cause due to the superior fundraising/resources of Christendom (See: Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising).

Conservapedia needs to expand its content because its atheism traffic could taper off over time due to less and less people having interest in atheism. Look at how much traffic to atheist websites is falling: Internet atheism and Internet atheism web traffic volume.

Christendom is going to go from victory to victory (See: Future of Christianity). Deus Vult!!! Conservative (talk) 09:27, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

You need more editors to do that, and it's not done by chasing away editors. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

I do have one regret about LT. When I wrote about LT "If he wants to be nasty and contentious (see his initial post on this page), then good riddance. Conservative (talk) 15:30, July 13, 2023 (EDT)", that was too harsh. LT is young and is more hot-headed. I know he hates right-wing populism. And to be fair, among other things, right-wing populists are not very good at balancing budgets when countries have a big amount of sovereign debt. Conservative (talk) 10:29, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

In addition, when I titled my essay On behalf of all Christians who are politically right-leaning, I hereby declare victory! Olé! Olé! Olé!, I could have just used merely one "Olé!". Maybe using three olés was too provocative. :) Conservative (talk) 10:35, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

It's not what you think or believe., it's how you interact with others that matters. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:23, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Andy can fix the login problem. But editor retention is important so template pollution through uncivilly covering up people's civil content via a template needs to end. Conservative (talk) 10:41, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Make up your mind if you want editor retention or not. You're sending mixed signals. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:42, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Robert Louis Stevenson

I am a fan of Robert Louis Stevenson too. When I was a young man I loved the book Treasure Island and the short story The Tell-Tale Heart.

I usually read nonfiction, but I think the next non-fiction works that I read will be Pilgrim's Progress, Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Conservative (talk) 20:40, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

The Tell-Tale Heart was by Edgar Allan Poe. I encourage reading the free, available online Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. It is remarkably conservative and brilliantly written.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:54, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. I just found a free PDF copy of the book at: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Free PDF copy. Conservative (talk) 22:59, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

There are many Christian and conservative phrases in it. I guess that's why it is rarely part of high school reading today!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:43, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

The first sentence of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Free PDF copy: "Mr. Utterson the lawyer was a man of a rugged countenance that was never lighted by a smile; cold, scanty and embarrassed in discourse; backward in sentiment; lean, long, dusty, dreary and yet somehow lovable."

"Rugged countenance"? That sounds like "toxic masculinity". :) Conservative (talk) 23:52, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

That is a great example of manliness in literature. I've added it to several entries. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:01, July 23, 2023 (EDT)Conservapedia:Copyrights

https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Copyrights

Question

I have been meaning to ask you this for a long time, But what happen to the 'Create Account' button, my friend is trying to create himself a new account but their is no way to do so because the option is missing, What happened?

I've been focusing on content. Legitimate new users can email me at aschlafly@aol.com to obtain a new account. A reference or some verification of good faith is preferred. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:32, July 23, 2023 (EDT)

Kingdom

Hebrews 1:8 called. Said "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

I've got missed calls from a bunch of Psalms and others as well, but I figured we should probably cut straight to the Son as man Himself. ConwayIII (talk) 20:16, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

You make a great point, and I'll consider this carefully. Will respond later tonight after studying this in depth. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:39, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

The New Living Translation breaks from the pressure to use "kingdom" and instead translates this verse as:

The KJV rendition that you quote above strains to use "kingdom" in overly a repetitive way. Rather, the statement would be far stronger if it emphasized that righteousness is the standard in God's paradise, as in "a scepter of righteousness is the standard of thy paradise."--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:30, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, thrones and sceptres are the things of kings and kingdoms. ConwayII has you in a Bible exegesis full-nelson and I don't see you getting out of it. Conservative (talk) 00:23, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Appreciate the humor and the challenge! But ancient Greece had no "thrones and sceptres," and neither did ancient Greek. Like "kingdom", those terms are also figments of the monarchical England. Thus checkmate. Ha ha hal. A still better rendition:

Respectfully, no. Hebrews 1:8 is a deliberate riff on Psalm 45:6: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Cf. Psalm 103:19 (The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.), Psalm 145:1 (I will extol thee, my God, O king; and I will bless thy name for ever and ever.) and the repeated and reinforcing use of majesty in verses 5 and 12.

The trials and tribulations of various earthly kings and kingdoms is a major thread running right through the OT, and Hebrew's contemporary audience would have had zero difficulty thinking of God in those monarchical terms. You might not like it, but that's not really relevant, is it?

As a final note, I urge you to go back to the Greek myths and any reliable history of the actual ancient Greece. You'll find plenty of kings. ConwayIII (talk) 06:17, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Like King Agamemnon, for instance. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:45, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Ancient Greek did not even have a word for "king", which is mostly an Anglophile obsession. All the "king" and "kingdom" language in the English translations of the New Testament is a dilution by the Brits.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:15, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Oedipus Rex, usually translated Oedipus the King. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:29, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

And from Rex we get a whole family of words, like reign, royal, Reich, etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:30, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

(Outdent) OK. Let's do this in French, German and Spanish, and then look at the Vulgate Latin and the Septuagint Greek. Psalm 145:1:

• Je t'exalterai, ô mon Dieu, mon roi! Et je bénirai ton nom à toujours et à perpétuité.
• Ich will dich erheben, mein Gott, du König, und deinen Namen loben immer und ewiglich.
• Te exaltaré mi Dios, oh Rey, y bendeciré tu nombre eternamente y para siempre.
• Exaltabo te, Deus meus rex ; et benedicam nomini tuo in sæculum, et in sæculum sæculi.
• Ὑψώσω σε, ὁ θεός μου ὁ βασιλεύς μου, καὶ εὐλογήσω τὸ ὄνομά σου εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα καὶ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος·

Herodotus used the same language 100+ years before the Septuagint was compiled. A very sensible chap called Demaratus asks Xerxes (a king of kings!) if he's really in the mood for some plain speaking and repeatedly addresses him with the honorific Βασιλεῦ. See end of 101 and beginning of 102: English Greek

ConwayIII (talk) 14:48, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

This is terrific information, but your French/German/Spanish translations above are of a verse in Psalms, not the Epistle to the Hebrews. Psalms was not originally written in Greek, and the Old Testament does refer to kings. The ancient Greek does not, as it had different types of government. The less biased Wiktionary explains that the primary meaning of βασιλεύς is "chief, master" and its notes describes it as an authority who could, as in a foreign ruler, coincidentally be a king there (but not in Greece). [2]--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:56, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

A king or kingdom denotes an heredity bloodline for the "continuity of government", a Republic has no such doctrine. This is why the Roman Catholic Church adopted celibacy, so that no heredity bloodline would have a claim on the Papacy. In Islam, Shia Islam traces its origins to the family of Mohammad, whereas Sunni Islam traces its origins to the Prophet and his Companions. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:32, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

What's Wiktionary got to do with this? I've just pointed to you to Herodotus (an ancient Greek historian writing c. 430 BC) using Βασιλεῦ in reference to Xerxes, the Persian king (c. 518 – 465 BC) famed for his invasion of Greece. This is a primary linguistic source and obviously relevant re. translating βασιλείας as "kingdom" in Hebrews 1:8.

The ancient Greeks had these words (and others) for "king" and "kingdom" and your claims to the contrary are simply untrue.

I'd prefer it if you'd have the grace to concede this narrow point so we can get back to the meat of the discussion. Thanks, ConwayIII (talk) 19:20, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Conway, your scholarship is excellent and I'm learning from it. Seriously, I mean it. You're right that the verse in Hebrews is a paraphrase, almost a direct quote, in Greek of the verse in Psalms.

But languages do sometimes lack words for certain terms. It seems natural that Herodotus used the Greek word for authority to refer to Xerxes. He was indeed an authority, a ruler. That doesn't prove that the Greek term meant "king". And jumping from there to translate the corresponding Greek term as "kingdom" is a bridge too far, it seems to me. I don't intend to be disagreeable about this, and most English translations side with you. I attribute that the immense British, pro-monarchical influence over the English translations. I admit that any version today which departed from that tradition is not going to sell very many copies! But with "kingdom" today connoting Mickey Mouse and other silliness, overreliance on that term may be causing folks to drive away from the benefits they could obtain from an undiluted translation.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:00, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

It's an interesting discussion, but I'm going to thumbnail the issue here:

God initially told Moses when he delivered the law that Israel was not to be like other people, and God was to be both their God and king. But God prophesized through Moses that one day the people would rebel and demand a king. When they entered the land, they had Judges, and not a king. Later in Samuel's day the people rebelled and wanted a king, and God told Samuel to grant them their wish. Samuel anointed Saul, and later David. This succession of kings continued until the Babylonian captivity, when the kingdom was destroyed. But the prophecy of a messiah was that he would restore the kingdom. The genealogies in Matthew and Luke attest to the fact that Jesus was heir to the promises made to David.

The Pharisees told Pilot that Jesus was a fraud and he was challenging Ceasar for the title of King of the Jews (they feared reprisals against the people if the Romans interpreted people calling Jesus 'king' as rebellion against Roman occupation, as well as their own loss of power among the people).

IOWs, the prophecies of a messiah were, and are, interpreted as also meaning 'king'. Now remember, God advised against wanting or having a king, but gave them what they wanted anyway. It wasn't the first time. There are many instances in the bible where God offers people a choice, advises on what God says is the right choice, people reject what God says and he grants them what they wanted anyway. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:14, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

For example: You may eat of the trees of the garden, except for the tree in the midst of the garden..., etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:29, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

"At once I was in the spirit, and there in heaven stood a throne, with one seated on the throne!" (Revelation 4:2 NRSV)

"They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.” {Revelation 17:14 ESV)

At Conservapedia, we have no king but Jesus! Conservative (talk) 12:21, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

One more note: When Jesus asked, What think ye Christ, whose son is he, David's or God's? And they responded, 'David's'. And Jesus said 'Why then does David in spirit call him Lord? - Jesus is making a direct reference to Psalm 45, which then again is cited in Hebrews chapter 1. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

@Andy: That's certainly gracious (thanks), but it's definitely not conceding the point. Let's try this instead:

1. OT authors properly referred to earthly kings and kingdoms when writing in the original Hebrew or Aramaic.
2. The authors of Psalms 45, 103 & 145 used precise monarchical imagery re. God, again when writing in the original Hebrew or Aramaic.
3. The author of Hebrews chose to replicate that imagery, most notably and precisely at 1:8.
4. Therefore, if the author of Psalm 45 intended to say "kingdom" in verse 6, then the author of Hebrews intended to say "kingdom" at 1:8 whether or not you agree βασιλείας adequately captures that concept.
5. Given your beliefs re. the author of Hebrews, there can be no question re. error in His word choice.
6. In short, He chose βασιλείας as the most accurate Greek rendition of "kingdom" available to Him.

I think you'd like to say that, if He was writing Hebrews today, He would likely choose a different word, such as "paradise", and perhaps even abandon the monarchical imagery entirely, for the reasons you've outlined.

That's a very different argument to the one you've made so far, and one that many (most?) people would find very presumptuous.

It does, however, have the distinct advantage of accurately capturing your sincere beliefs without foundering linguistically or logically. Essentially, it's a WWJD? exercise re. the decline of monarchy and the development of the English language. ConwayIII (talk) 15:57, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Conway, your argument is brilliant and I'm learning from it. Ten years ago I would have been more argumentative in disagreement than today. You are certainly at least mostly right here, and I had never thought of this before. Well done.

I'm not totally convinced as to "kingdom", however, even assuming you're right about "king". The trick here is switching from Hebrew to Greek to English, and also recognizing that the word choice by the author of the Epistle to the Hebrews, which I'm convinced was Jesus, was constrained by words his audience (not Greek linguists) could understand. "Kingdom", it still seems to me, is a British invention that certainly conferred immense benefits on the world, but has lost its effectiveness in language.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:08, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. That's very kind. It strikes me that "kingdom" is simply a function of "king". We can call it a "realm" or something else entirely, but the concept itself (that which is the king's to rule) doesn't change.

As for the Hebrew:

• Root word: king (melek) מֶלֶךְ
• Genesis 39:20: of the king (earthly) הַמֶּ֖לֶךְ
• Psalm 45:6: of Your kingdom (divine) מַלְכוּתֶֽךָ
• Psalm 103:19: and His kingdom (divine) מַלְכוּתֶֽךָ
• Psalm 145:1: King (divine title) הַמֶּ֑לֶךְ
• 1 Kings 1:32: King (earthly title) הַמֶּ֣לֶךְ
• Judges 15:9: the kings (earthly) מַלְכֵ֣י
• Daniel 11:9: to the kingdom (earthly) בְּמַלְכוּת֙

I don't pretend to understand the grammar or the diacritics or how to pronounce any of it, but there's enough orthographic similarity to reasonably infer consistent use of the root, as with king / kingdom in English. At a minimum, all the above contain מֶלֶ with varying diacritics.

ConwayIII (talk) 22:24, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Conway, your analysis is excellent. You're probably right about the use of "king" in the Old Testament. And to the extent a book in the New Testament quotes the Old, it is what it is, as you point out.

But I think "kingdom" might really be a sufficiently different concept now, at least post-Disney where its "magical kingdom" really has nothing to do with any "king". I'd like to ponder this further. "Kingdom" is such a basic concept, even recited daily by up to a hundred million people in The Lord's Prayer, that some additional care in analysis of this is appropriate. Thanks again for providing your highly informative perspective and examples.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:32, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

P.S. When I say "post-Disney" above, I'm not referring to the current political dispute between Disney and Ron DeSantis (and others). All I mean by that is how "kingdom" has become a fairy tale concept, at least in the U.S., in part due to Disney, and I don't fault them for that.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:53, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

"The trick here is switching from Hebrew to Greek to English". To get to English, you have to go through German, first. Gr. Rex -> Ger. König -> Eng. King. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:08, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Now German uses "Reich" for kingdom, which is derived from Gr. Rex. In English, the closest surviving word we have to "Reich" is "rich", denoting something of a commonwealth. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:13, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

real things in fiction

I asked Rob but I figured I'd also ask what your opinion on covering real things in fiction here. I added something to the George Washington article as an example. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 13:18, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

I like it! Please do more. We're at the intersection of culture, knowledge and politics, and cultural or fictional references to historical figures is a big part of that. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:23, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

What do you mean by "intersection of culture"? This wiki's? Patriotic Gamer (talk) 13:27, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Right I mean that Conservapedia is at the intersection of culture, knowledge and politics.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Is Bushfan template allowed on my userpage?

I added a lot of userboxes to my userpage, and among them was one of "this user supports GWB." Assuming it's a holdover from this wiki's earlier days, as I know that he is loathed by MAGA, I just wanted to ask if you're okay that I decided to add to my user page & that it's not intended to be an insult to Trump supporters.

Userbox refers to how he was my childhood president, there's photo of him with Chick-Fil-A founder, he gave Fred Rogers a presidential award, friends with Michael W. Smith, was openly supportive and empowered Christian music at the time. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 11:52, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

If you want to be identified with the Republican establishment, the Uniparty, the corrupt Biden DOJ, Russiagate scammers, the military industrial complex, globalists, warmongers and supporters of Ukrainian Nazis, sure, go ahead. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:40, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

A shame that others will automatically assume association from a quick glance, but you do have a point there. The crazy thing is that I found a user box for people who support Obama here, so I take it's the risk of one exercising their right to say what or who they support, but to keep in mind of how the average person here will view them or challenge them. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 17:32, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Splits have emerged in both parties since the Clinton and Bush eras which are not readily apparent to people on either side of the line, in addition to recognition of a uniparty that is hostile to voters of both parties. The Dems have become the party of war, Wall Street, and the military industrial complex, and the GOP has become the party of workers and the common man. Both party's establishments seek to isolate populist sentiments among their voters. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:24, August 3, 2023 (EDT)

Game data allowed?

Is word-for-word text from video games (e.g. quotes said by a character) and other sources (like official bios of another character) allowed on this website? those don't have a license attached to them, but I'd assume the closest to them are the respective copyright holders, who add the bios or the quotes themselves Patriotic Gamer (talk) 09:32, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

I would assume in most cases it would be okay, provided the language is cleaned up to meet our family friendly guidelines. We may have to see a few examples to see what you have in mind and if any objections arise. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:59, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

Length of the early church services

Below is the information I promised you about the length of the early church services:

• What Was a Church Service Like in the Second Century? (Mass/service lasted 3 hours and congregants stood most of the service) Conservative (talk) 19:07, August 8, 2023 (EDT)

Here is the info on buycotting that I mentioned to you

You can buy products from conservative companies at: Public Square

• Largest anti-woke marketplace just opened up public funding via NYSE - Steve Turley's interview with the president of Public Square

• Tucker Carlson has agreed to a seven-figure ad deal with Public Square (PublicSq.), a conservative-friendly shopping app, for his Twitter show.

• Anti-woke marketplace PublicSq. to begin trading on NYSE: The conservative alternative to Amazon goes public.

This is probably going to be one of the best ways to buycott and it's growing fast. Conservative (talk) 15:31, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia and the origins of global creationism

In 2012, the University at Toronto reported: “We have seen in the last two decades a rapid spread of creationism beyond the United States and beyond Christianity to other religions to the present time where it is a global phenomenon,” said Numbers in a talk entitled Creationism Goes Global. “But the big story in the last 20 years is the booming enterprise of creationism in the Islamic world.”[3]

Conservapedia was launched in 2004 and for awhile it ranked #4 at Google for the term "evolution". Also, historically most of the very vocal evolutionists have been atheists/agnostics and Conservapedia's atheism articles have received a lot of page views.

The website ScienceNordic.com noted in 2015: "Creationism has particularly been on the rise in step with the internet, which according to Peter Kjærgaard has made it much easier for people to become activists and hurl out statements in favour of creationism...".[4]

Conservapedia helped the phenomena of global creationism as far as its initial rapid breakout period in the 1990s and the first decade of the 2000s.

And once the proverbial genie of global creationism was out of the bottle, it has been impossible for evolutionists to get him back in the bottle. Conservative (talk) 11:12, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

He that goeth about as a talebearer revealeth secrets: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips. - King Solomon, Proverbs 20:19. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:20, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Another interpretation based on Proverbs 11:13 could be read to say: He that goeth about as a talebearer is faithless: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips.

A review of User:Conservative's postings in this talk shows that when he's not going about as a talebearer, he acting as a flatterer. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:11, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

Improving the pro-life category

I spent some time yesterday and this morning cleaning up the pro-life articles.

I know you are one of the Conservapedia who is active in the pro-life movement so I thought I would tell you one of the things that are remaining to do. I have engaged in pro-life political advocacy in the past and I would do it myself, but I am working on two off-wiki projects right now so I cannot attend to it expeditiously.

In terms of suggestions here is a list of 5 priorities:

1) The article Beginning of human life has footnotes that are completely messed up.

2) Come up with more pro-life topics to create articles on (People, places, things and concepts) and drum up interest among current editors.

3) Expand the natalism article and create/expand articles related to this concept.

4) Create an Anti-natalism article and create/expand articles related to this concept.

5) Expand the article Legal cases about abortion that I just created. (Question: Know any Harvard Law School graduates who are Conservapedians?). :)

User:NishantXavier is the most fervent Catholic at Conservapedia who likes politics. Maybe he would be interested in helping with items #1 and #2.

Conservapedia does face stiff competition from LifeSiteNews.com, but maybe it can compete in the online encyclopedia niche. I know it is possible to compete in the online encyclopedia niche on a topic given that I did this in the atheism category.

Some good news. Search engine traffic to the website of Encyclopedia Britannica is way down. So strike while the iron is hot. :) Conservative (talk) 08:04, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for your terrific suggestions. This an important issue that could benefit from far more here and elsewhere. Liberals are getting away with too much distortion on this topic.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:16, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Nazi views spammed across Conservapedia

Swastika on display in a Kyiv mall, February 2019. Times of Israel

Honestly Andy, I'm getting tired of User:Conservative's relentless trolling of me from 7 AM every morning and his spamming pro-Nazi views throughout Conserpavedia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:10, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, I assure you that I am not a German nationalist who longs for a leader like Adolf Hitler to become the new fuhrer of Germany and if you have any doubts about this matter, please read my essay The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future. USA! USA!USA! Conservative (talk) 20:37, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

American jingoism isn't a cover for spamming Nazi views.

What about your trolling? Is that an admission, ignoring the complaint? Don't answer only half the question. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:44, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

We've already documented your use of the Soros-funded Alexander Motyl, globalist Peter Zeihan, and neocon Karen Dawisha among only a few to push Ukrianian Nazism. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:52, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, please stop committing the The Hitler Card logical fallacy. Show some self-respect. Conservative (talk) 20:52, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

You've been asked dozens of times, hundreds, to stop peddling American support for Ukrainian Nazism and globalism. What about your deliberate daily trolling? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:54, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, Peter Zeihan predicted the war in Ukraine significantly before it happened. You did not. Conservative (talk) 21:00, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Peter Zeihan is an "Anti-Conservative" "liberal", per Wikileaks. As a globalist insider with Stratfor, of course Zeihan would know.

Do you deny George Soros was a Nazi collaborator, the man who funds Alexander Motyl's attempt you use to discredit Operation Denazification?

What about your daily trolling, intended to irritate others and prevent them from productive editing? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:08, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

The photo you see at the right is a violation of the Joint Allied Declaration of May 1945 barring display of Nazi insignia, yet User:Conservaitve has become a venomous critic of those trying to enforce the agreement, and an apologist for NATO & US support of Nazism. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:15, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

I am not on trial RobSmith. And unlike you I have never been de-sysoped.

Furthermore, stop using the genetic fallacy. Peter Zeihan gives perfectly legitimate information on Russian demographics. And you yourself have quoted MSM sources on the main page which I documented. Rules for thee, but not for me! Conservative (talk) 21:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

The Joint Allied Declaration of May 1945 barred display of Nazi insignia in all Nazi occupied territories from France to Ukraine. Do you support American violations of international law? The United States was funding Ukrainian Nazis at the time that February 2019 photo was taken. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:25, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Again, I am not on trial RobSmith. I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. Conservative (talk) 21:29, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

You must think this is some kind of a joke. It's not. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:32, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

The root problem is that you are obsessed with me. Anyone can see that by looking at your user page. My user page doesn't have one iota of concern about you. Please get a grip on yourself. Conservative (talk) 21:35, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) There is well over 200,000 dead now at the hands of the Ukrainian fascist regime, and you have spammed and trolled me relentlessly since February 2022 to prevent me from telling conservative readers what is happening with their financial support.

And you have used Nazi, fascist, and globalist sources in your so-called "Essays" to justify prolonging support for the conflict. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:39, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

It's an obsession with you. You have spent the entire day today writing on support for globalism and global fascism. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:42, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Develop a hobby RobSmith. Get a dog. Maybe these things will break the stranglehold of your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 21:43, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

What about your trolling? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:51, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, when I see that your obsession with me has ended, then I will think about never writing about the USA, China, Russia, Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping or Ukraine at Conservapedia. But not before then. Godspeed on ending your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 21:53, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

There Andy, you see? He admits he trolls on article subject pages and Essays he knows nothing about and has no interest in cause he doesn't like my User page. And my user page was created only as a reaction to his trolling of me across Conservapedia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:57, August 25, 2023 (EDT) RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:57, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, Andy is quite aware that I extended an olive branch to you recently which you rejected. So I predict that Andy will not respond to your whining and childish antics. So I suggest you end your obsession with me. But if you don't that's no sweat off of my back.

Godspeed on ending your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 22:07, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

User:Conmservative: Here's my terms:

• Remove and/or delete some of the vindictive garbage you've posted in your userspace, in Essays, and in article Mainspace;
• quit crying to mommie everytime you get your feelings hurt;

once you completed this, I swear, I will be happy to remove and delete the one sentence quotation of the words you used to troll me on April 17, 2022 on MainPage/talk, and you got your underwear in a knot over, and have wasted probably well over 325 hours of your life to promote Nazism in retribution to my work. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:17, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Have you ever noticed that wicked people often try to harass, censor and lie about others? Deep down they know what they are doing is wrong and cannot stand when their fragile, wicked ideas and evil ways are shown to be in error. Like most wicked people they are very proud.

Question: Is there anything more pathetic than a wicked man gossiping about another man because his wrongheaded ideas cannot stand scrutiny?

In this modern information age, wicked men often fail to suppress the truth which makes them very upset.

“There is no peace for the wicked,” says the LORD." - Isaiah 48:22 Conservative (talk) 23:33, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Olive branch? What olive branch? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:47, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Generally speaking, toxic people are not friendly with reality. They often maintain a separate reality — a self-created narrative — in which their needs and interests dominate.

To that end, they might twist facts, hide information or overtly lie — to the people around them and even to themselves. When confronted, they’ll resist owning up to their deceit — even, strangely enough, when it’s about small things. Whether they’re lying to manipulate another person, to enhance their reputation, to secure a desired outcome, or to mask their shame, toxic people rely on lies as part of their operating system." - 8 Signs It’s Time to Cut a Toxic Person Out of Your Life.

Godspeed on ending your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 23:57, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Can't answer a simple question: What olive branch? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:25, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Hell will freeze over before this happens: RobSmith, you want me to delete my articles showing how much better the USA is than China and Russia? That's un-American! And of course, Hell will freeze over before I do that. USA! USA! USA! Conservative (talk) 05:44, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

For every Conservapedia article we display the flag of the country. It's a total disgrace that Conservapedia does not do the same for the country of Ukraine and instead has something with a Nazi symbol on it

Andy, while I am not for the USA funding the war in Ukraine, I don't think Conservapedia should spit on all Ukrainians - especially the families of civilians who died in the war or who were victims of Russian war atrocities in Ukraine (See: Russian war crimes in Ukraine).

For every Conservapedia article we display the flag of the country. It's a total disgrace that Conservapedia does not do the same for the country of Ukraine and instead has something with a Nazi symbol on it. So I took the liberty of putting the Ukraine flag on the article instead of the pseudo Ukraine flag with a Nazi symbol on the Ukraine article.

Key questions: Andy, do you believe all of the people in Ukraine are Nazis? If not, what percentage of Ukrainians do you believe are Nazis? Do you agree with RobSmith's contention that everyone who objects to what some of the things that the Russians are doing in Ukraine are Nazis? If so, why?

Key question: Do you believe that Conservapedia should have some pseudo Ukraine flag with a Nazi symbol on the Ukraine article or the real flag of Ukraine? What is more encyclopedic?

Key question: Here are some Ukainian Christians singing some songs: Ukrainian Christian songs. Do you want to spit on these Ukrainian Christians by saying that any of them who object to the invasion of their country by Russia are Nazis?

Below are some statistics on the civilian deaths in the war in Ukraine:

Key suggestion: I suggest that NishantXavier and Robsmith go over the articles on Ukraine and the war in Ukraine and come up with some compromise versions of the articles so the articles are more objective. Conservative (talk) 04:39, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Also, in the Ukraine article RobSmith apparently spelled the word "Christian" wrong. He spelled it thusly: "Chirstian". It's apparent that some quality control needs to be implemented to the article. Conservative (talk) 05:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)