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:How do you know it's his views and not just a campaign speech? Are you saying politicians are honest? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 12:32, July 16, 2024 (EDT)
 
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P3R9SwtNck Listen to this]; the RNC has gone full Bolshevist-Fascist. This was ''exactly'' what Mussolini's Italy did: create a "national syndicalist" federation under the umbrella control of a single-party labor bloc to control industry. "Class collaboration" is Fascism.
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Along with environmentalism, [https://ellenwhite.org/media/document/2221 labor unionism] will constitute the left wing of the soon-to-come Sunday Law. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 12:39, July 16, 2024 (EDT)

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Project 2025 is a load of Communist idiocy

What difference at this point does it make? [1]

Long story short: it is a blueprint for reviving Papal-Caesarist ideology of theistic, Nazarene Communism, considering the religious credentials of Heritage Foundation head Kevin Roberts. The present Hegelian conflict between the economically socialist progressive left and Orange Bolshevist (Trumpist) "far right" will lead to a synthesis that is none other than the reactionary, Communistic, wealth-distributing thievery of Jesuitism. (see E. M. Josephson, "The Federal Reserve Conspiracy & Rockefellers," p. 3)

"Right-wing" Trumpism = Bolshevist Communism. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 12:16, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

"Orange Bolshevist" LOL. Problem here is, from a narrative engineering POV is, it gets confused with Orange color revolution. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
What difference at this point does it make? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 18:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

Why would the "toss-Biden-under-the-bus" effort be directly connected to Russia?

At the end of the day, Biden is a stooge taking orders from his Jesuit/Knights of Malta–controlled bosses. No matter which establishment politician rules, the U.S. will inevitably be hawkishly anti-Russia and pro-Ukronazi. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:42, July 7, 2024 (EDT)

The current bout of Russophobia in The Blob is just a hiccup in US-Russian relations ever since Moscow sent leftist dominance of their country packing. Things will return to its natural state of friendship once we in America get these leftist and neocon pro-LGBT warmongers under control (you too, User:Conservative). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:09, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
Well, it's too bad that Mango Caesar will turn America into a theistic, "Nazrene" Communist hellhole, aka installing the final form of Revelation's second beast/False Prophet which enforces the mark of the beast. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 22:13, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
What have you been smoking? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:14, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
It's really not that that hard to understand, RobSmith: Trump was trained at the Jesuit-controlled Fordham University and mentored by 33rd-degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peale, who taught Mango Caesar to worship himself. Go back and read Rev. 13-19: the second beast/False Prophet, aka the United States, enforces the dogmas of the first beast/Antichrist, aka the Vatican, to bring about the mark of the beast. Trump's agenda is guaranteed to usher in the Christian Nationalist agenda of Project 2025 which promises to enact a Sunday Law; and one of its chief leaders, Kevin Roberts, is a right-wing Catholic theocrat. Now, Catholic social teaching = Nazarene Communism (Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Rerum Novarum is basically just the Communist Manifesto), so Catholic theocracy = theistic-reactionary Communist tyranny. Anyways, as to the Sunday Law, it is the Vatican's self-professed "mark" of authority, which says all you need to know. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 22:26, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
Why does the pope wear a yarmulke? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:48, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Why? Because of liberal ecumenical syncretism. Of course, that process is now essentially complete, so the Vatican is reverting back to its reactionary traditions gradually. [2][3]LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:04, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Maybe the pope who adopted the tradition was a kabbalist, or at least wanted to create the impression? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Specifically to answer your question: the neocon globalists (and User:Conservative) want to continue the NATO war in Ukraine (and its inflationary effects). The public backlash against the policy has led to dumping 3 UK prime ministers, electoral upsets in France, Slovakia, Italy and elsewhere. This is where talk of "Trump-proofing" the neo-fascist NATO war on Russia comes from. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:31, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Sundance explains: Furrowed Brow Speaks About Need to Replace Biden on Behalf of the State Dept Who are Worried About Losing Ukraine Money if Trump Wins. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:21, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
How about not blaming half of everything on a third-rate New York miser? Believe me, I probably get just as fed up with his debauchery as you do. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:05, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
The subject of this discussion is why neocons want to toss Biden under the boss. The answer is fear of Trump taking the punchbowl away from the party. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

The military industrial complex bubble

You've heard of stock market bubbles and housing bubbles, over-inflated prices reflecting no real value? When the bubble pops, it lets the air out of the bag and prices fall closer their real value. That's what America's $880 billion dollar defense budget reflects: decades and decades of inflated costs not reflecting its real value. The vaunted Javelin missile or Patriot missile systems for example, turn out to be nothing but examples of shrinkflation.

Is it possible to recover some of the stolen value and costs in the decades and decades of inflated values appropriated in the US government's #1 budget priority? No. Cause that cash was paid in labor and service costs, consumed long ago, and it doesn't exist in stockpiles of manufactured goods.

This is how miscalculations occur, for example thinking the Russian Federation's GDP was smaller than Spain or the Netherlands. The entire US economy became bloated and overvalued relative to comparisons with other nations, which is reflected in global statistics due the US dollars status in the global financial system. The US taxpayer has eaten the cost - through inflation - over decades and decades while at the same time creating the military industrial complex bubble, which was paid out in research, labor, maintenance and service costs, and not building the appropriate stockpile reserves needed in the event of war with a peer power.

Much more on this to come. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:52, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Antifa France

WATCH: Leftist Radicals Riot in France Despite Victory for Far-Left in Snap Elections. Scary as hell. I'm sure it will boost morale among its parallels here, in our country.Telling (talk)

Project 2025 a beautiful, comprehensive platform for Christian Nationalism and Conservatism

As a longtime advocate of Christian Nationalism, I am pleasantly surprised (and in fact positively thrilled) to see such a well thought-out advocacy for it in Project 2025. Now, Liberal Wiki has a very lengthy page on Project 2025 up (and we need to get ours on Conservapedia up next - will do that after this post) but all you need to know is, if P2025 is Pro-Christian Nationalism, Godless, Liberal Wiki will be against it. No surprises there, but this was exactly why Conservapedia was founded. To do ideological battle with and demonstrate we are the superior alternative to Wikipedia when it comes to getting Truth out there, and we don't take refuge under the phony pretext of a supposed neutrality. One cannot in fact be "neutral" between Light and darkness without soon going blind. One must choose the side of Light, of objective Truth, such as CN. Christ is King of kings, and it is righteous and just that the nations of this world embrace Him as their King and publicly proclaim His Teaching as the basis for flourishing societies.

Liberal Wiki on P2025 and it's Pro-CN platform: "As the leader of the Center for Renewing America, Project 2025 contributor Russell Vought has spearheaded an effort to instill precepts of Christian nationalism into government and public life should Trump win a second term. In a 2021 opinion piece, Vought wrote that Christian nationalism "recognizes America as a Christian nation" and makes "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society." According to Vought, "Christians are under assault", and he sought to use his regular contacts with Trump to "elevate Christian nationalism as a focal point" should Trump be reelected president. Vought has close ties with another former Trump administration official, Christian nationalist William Wolfe, who, in an online manifesto, seeks to implement a Bible-based system of government whereby "Christ-ordained civil magistrates" exercise authority over the American public.[93]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Christian_nationalism

And from their official website: "WASHINGTON—The Heritage Foundation announced today that its 2025 Presidential Transition Project has reached 100 coalition partners." https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-reaches-100-coalition-partners-continues-grow-preparation-next-president Christian values will ensure society never again descends to Atheistic, Abortionist, Woke, Liberal values. If we really mean "Never Again" in reference to the ongoing Abortion Holocaust, CN is the Clear Solution. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:34, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

Started the page. It's live here: https://www.conservapedia.com/Project_2025 God Bless. Will also send an email to CP team members. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

The "National Rally" was literally founded by Vichyite Nazi-Fascist socialists

Oh well, Andy's a proud Orange Bolshevist, so I guess this socialisymping checks out. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:56, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

What percentage of the French population migrated to England and North Africa with De Gaulle after the Fall of France 1940? Who, other than the Communist Party of France, remained to oppose the Vichy Regime and Nazism? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:43, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Didn't the international Communists only resume their supposed "fight" against Nazi-Fascism after the end of the Communazi Era in 1941? —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:53, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Number 1, and I can't understate the importance of this fact enough - everything you've been led to believe today about France in World War II is leftover, stale Anglo-American war propaganda from World War II, which wasn't true then, and is no more true today than it was then. It's one reason French, and most Europeans, laugh at how gullible, stupid, and naive Americans are - cause they never believed it and they know the truth. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:07, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
The idea that France was a "victor" in World War II is total balderdash (to put it politely). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:09, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
You know how many of De Gaulle's troops "stormed the beaches of Normandy" to liberate their own country? 177. Mostly "advisors". And they weren't anywhere near the first wave. And this was only after De Gaulle acquiesced, cause he didn't want to send any. By contrast, New Zealand, with a fraction of the population and halfway around the world, had its own front.
So you're going to have to dig mighty deep, over an extended period of time (largely due to language barriers and appropriately qualifying sources) to arrive at anything approximating the truth. Just begin with the known fact that if its a source in English from WWII, it's for the most part 98-99% bs, until you pick up the proper skills of analytical discernment. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:25, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Calling the bulk of the French population who remained in France under Vichy regime, who were excluded from politics in the Cold War period because they did not support leftist ideology or communism, and were represented by the National Front founded by Le Pen's father - calling them "fascist" - is itself "communist propaganda". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:40, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Vichy itself was a Nazi-Communist regime. Ever heard of the French National-Collectivist Party? —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 21:47, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Maybe.
Man, you got your head screwed up your behind referring to Vichy as "Nazi-Communist". You need some more research (not from contemporaneous or ex post facto English language sources) on Vichy France. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:17, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
On second thought, maybe you have a point; it did come into existence during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. But we need more, or better clarity for English-speaking readers. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:20, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Fascism as a whole in its "original" incarnations was very economically interventionist and implemented welfare programs. As for Vichy France, I believe "Neither Right Nor Left" makes a good case for why classifying Franco-Fascism as exclusively "right-wing" is naively lopsided in ignoring a few dynamics. The Vichyite core was "traditionalist" and reactionary, though simultaneously socialistically radical. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:24, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
That's the people whose grandchildren the National Front & National Rally represent. They neither picked up guns to fight the Germans, nor are communists or leftists. They essentially are "centrists", but accused of being collaborators and fascists in post-war France. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:32, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

OH look. Ol' Fauci "decided" Biden's fit

Fauci says he has ‘no doubt’ Biden is capable of continuing as president. So, that makes it alright now.Telling (talk) 22:11, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

That makes it MPR-worthy: "82-year-old demented Dr. Fauci gives Biden clean bill of health". I wish the ICJ would hurry up and issue a subpoena like they did for Putin; they've been looking at the criminal complaint now for years. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:20, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
😂 I giggled when I read that The Hill piece.Telling (talk)
Biden death watch consumes Democrats - may not be the last word for a while. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:26, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Citing Dick Morris... did he provide predictions for Nov.?Telling (talk)
He's predicting a GOP win of the Senate with Manchin & Sinema out; the GOP already has 50 seats. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:23, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Nice.Telling (talk) 00:24, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings (Cook Political Report)

Cook Political Report: Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings. more: The Cook Political Report shifted three states — Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada — from “toss-up” to “lean Republican” and shifted two other states, Minnesota and New Hampshire, from “likely” to “lean Democrat.” Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District also shifted from “likely” to “lean” Democrat. This is HUGE...Telling (talk) 19:29, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Six states shift toward GOP in wake of Biden nominee angst: Cook Political Report, Washington Examiner. July 9, 2024. Conservative (talk) 19:41, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Thanks Conservative for posting that more (openly) informative link.Telling (talk) 22:51, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Your welcome. Conservative (talk) 23:13, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Democrats panic after Sleepy Joe's pathetic Debate Performance

Back to Trump. Apparently, some Democrats are panicking after Sleepy Joe Biden's lousy debate performance that Biden can't beat Trump:

"Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., said during an interview on CNN that he doesn't believe Biden can win a second term, warning that it could be a "landslide" victory for Trump. “Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this election and maybe win it by a landslide,” said Bennet, who unsuccessfully ran against Biden in 2020.

He added that if Biden loses, it could also cost Democrats more seats in the House and their slim majority in the Senate.

"This isn't a question of polling; it's not a question of politics. It's a moral question about the future of our country," he said, adding later, "I think that we could lose the whole thing."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-biden-election-2024-live-updates-rcna160776

It may not be as bad (good, for us) as he says, but definitely there's a great opportunity for a landslide victory here, if Republicans pray and work hard, and don't carelessly compromise values." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:42, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony

Yet another almost infallible proof of the necessity of Christian Nationalism in a tweet retweeted by Elon Musk - Musk's been doing a good job becoming more Conservative of late.

"Who are these “activists”? the original tweet: "Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony. Their reason? "LGBTQ people ... are more likely to be charged with sex offenses" https://x.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1810662654555402441 https://notthebee.com/article/a-california-bill-would-make-it-a-felony-to-solicit-a-minor-for-sex--can-you-guess-which-group-of-people-came-out-against-it?from_social=twitter

See the immoral madness to which denying Christian Nationalism and its necessity inevitably leads. Now, they want Pedophilia and Child Prostitution. Smh. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:14, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

'Everyone Asia' Unites 11,000 Believers From 46 Nations

https://www.klove.com/news/faith/everyone-asia-unites-11-000-believers-from-46-nations-50999 "The EVERYONE ASIA conference convened on July 3, 2024, with an electrifying opening session led by Dr. Niko Njotoradardjo (Chair of the Empowered21 Asian Cabinet) and worship artists from across Indonesia. The two-and-a-half-day event, sponsored by the Empowered21 (E21) Asian Cabinet and held at the Sentul International Conference Center, brought together more than 11,000 Spirit-empowered Christians from 46 nations." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

The Dems are ridin' with Biden

With the support of the Congressional Black Caucus, Joe Biden can stay on as nominee for as long as he likes. "We're ridin' with Biden," as Jim Clyburn, leader of the caucus, put it. Sorry, Dem elites, late night comedy hosts, and liberal media mavens. You don't count. Biden has virtually no campaign and no prospect of winning in November. He is collecting donor money and putting it in the bank. I assume Jill and Hunter will split it. This is democracy? I don't buy the argument that its too late to change the nominee. Traditionally, the nominee was chosen at the convention, which hasn't been held yet.

The only person who is being mentioned as an alternative to Biden is Kamala. Switching Biden for Kamala seems a bit pointless. PeterKa (talk) 09:02, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

So far, for the GOP is even better if he stays... BTW in 'leftism' Kamala is far worse.Telling (talk) 09:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
Trump came up with an original label yesterday: "laughin' Kamala".Dianne3000 (talk) 14:46, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
Shouldn't the slogan be "We're ridin' with Biden?" I'm not sure the power-brokers against Biden are going to lose ... Biden still has to pass more tests, like a press conference on Thursday and another debate.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:25, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
The most startling revelation to come out of the Stephanopoulos interview is that Biden is satisfied, "As long as I gave it my all," like American politics is a little league participation trophy. If he blows up the Democratic Party, that's apparently not his problem. PeterKa (talk) 21:11, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
I like "cackling Kamala"; maybe Trump figures some people don't know what a cackle is. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
I agree, 'cackling' would have been a far better choice. It might also be, that fear of using too harsh of a word which will trigger being called a "racist" by the other side (though mentined briefly Former President Donald Trump (left) has tried out different nicknames for Vice President Kamala Harris (right), like "Laffin' Kamala Harris" and "Cackling Copilot Kamala Harris.").Dianne3000 (talk) 07:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
'Cackling' is like 'Malarkey'. If you have to explain it, it loses its effectiveness. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:59, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC

Says it all. "Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC."

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1810449615184896491 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:40, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

In an effort to bring in Gen Z?Telling (talk)
Diversity is our strength. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:12, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Latest Taqiyya

Latest Taqiyya: The exposed Islamic Republic of Iran's agents posing as "activists" at "protests" (as well as funding, apart from Al Jazeera's Qatar (this oiled Arab country has also been bribing US universities for long), is like the Muslim Brothethood linked (SJP founder) Hatem Bazian exposed as guiding the JVP when caught tweeting "as Jews"... So is Pallywood (too many examples, despite efforts discrediting). Or the sites with endings: .tr/ .ir / .ps Telling (talk)

Two years ago the Islamists were caught Iran accused of sowing Israel discontent with fake Jewish Facebook group. Heck, I've seen both, Iranian and "palestinian" Arab-Muslims posing as "Christians" and at times even as "white supremacists"...too. LOL.Dianne3000 (talk) 09:08, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
OH yeah the "aduk," Muslims posing as "orthodox Jews."Telling (talk) 13:25, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
We have a Taqiyya page. Feel free to bring it up to date (we'd like to get it up to 30,000+ page views). Thanks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Kudos RobS. Will take a look.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:06, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Why is Candace Owens turning to Hitlerite apologetics?

Spoiler: it's the same reason Pope Francis has now shifted to the "right" from his "leftist" reputation, from denouncing surrogacy to rebuking "gender" surgery to more blatant pushback against the homosexualist agenda that's been clearly consistent. The answer is simple: the liberal ecumenical era has done its job and is over, so the Jesuit/Maltese/Vatican agenda is ready to revert back to its old ultramonatanist Papal-Caesarist ways in preparation for the final Antichrist agenda.

Given Owens's conversion to Catholicism a few months ago, guess who her bosses are? —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 11:36, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

First, Owens' Hitler rant in 2019 was also embrassing for us conservatives. She is one more (using the mask:) "anti zionist" Hitler-apologetic. (What on earth has "anti zionism" to do with denying Mengele's monstrous horrors?) I think our friend Rob here has noted about her low IQ. It's certainly a contributor. At least Kamala is above her grade, which is not a compliment...Telling (talk) 12:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Just like neo nazis use the "Z_og" label... She also said that there was "almost" [sic] ethnic cleansing in the Holocaust vs "real" ethnic cleansing of Germans... Hence her black race would be "almost" cleansed by the "master race"? Point is, it's not just ignorance it's malicious sicknessDianne3000 (talk) 13:17, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Sure. All Nazis are also "anti-zionist." But here is an interesting historic event - reminder. The other Owens... Jesse running and winning in Nazi Germany, he became since, a heroic symbol. VS this shameful Owens... Owens VS Owens.Telling (talk) 13:22, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
IMO, what she's saying to black Democrats is, 'not all WWII narratives are the gospel truth'. But you can't just say that and leave people hanging. You need to be specific on what was propaganda then, and what are known facts now. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Re Telling's Owens vs Owens. Jesse owned the Nazis but Candace is owened now (as in slang use).Dianne3000 (talk) 14:11, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
RobSmith, please: Hitlerite apologetics has nothing to do with convincing ethnic minorities to leave the Democratic Plantation. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:45, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
All Nazis are anti-Zionist? Guess who said the following: "I am a Zionist too. I want every Jew to leave for Palestine." And another architect of the Final Solution said of the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them [the Zionists]." There's also a modern case example.
Maybe this makes me a Comsymp, but I have a feeling that Lenni Brenner was on to something. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:43, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Now here is an example of not having the interpretative skills, not reading the nuance to the quotation: Eichmann was mocking. It's like a bigot in America saying, "Ship em all back to Africa." RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:56, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Oh oy, of course with this sad latest tendencies you would choose Brenner, that canard on Zionists (again that misreading) how dare they helped save Jews? Of course German Nazis wanted to ethnic cleanse Europe, to get rid of the Jews into Palestine before the 1941 Wannsea conference when Hitler saw that there is a concensus to exterminate them all. Hitler stopped it already in 1937. Yes, Arab supremacists are very angry about it that Jews are saved. In 1938 Hitler spoke for Palestinian Arabs against the Jews in Palestine. Arabs Hail Hitler As Liberator.

It was mutual [4] And indeed: Hitler hated the Zionists, and thought their country was meant to be a refuge for crooks and thieves . Richard Spencer is the exception. How dare you label Eichmann a "zionist"? With your latest SKEWED reasearch" how many Jews did Zionists save 1933-7?Telling (talk) 19:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Telling, the Zionists in large part didn't save the Jews. The only ones they "saved" were the Zionist fringe minority (or at least some fractional minority willing to acquiesce to Zionist emigration demands), as the majority of European Jewry were anti-Zionist. (see Alfred M. Lilienthal's What Price Israel?) Both then and now, the highest levels of Zionist leadership have always been more than happy to throw dissident anti-Zionist Jews under the bus. (when was the last time the ADL condemned Zionist harassment of NK?) They sabotaged Jewish anti-Nazi resistance, with both the left and right wings of Zionism highly complicit in the scheme. Chaim Weizmann eerily said: "only the branch of the young shall survive." Then there's the Communazi (literally speaking) Stern Gang (Lehi) assassins who committed atrocities against Palestinian civilians; one of them was Yizhak Shamir.
The effort of AJCongress patriots (of course, Stephen Wise later became a quiet Nazi collaborator and suppressed news of the Holocaust) along with the Non-Sectarian Anti-Nazi League—to boycott the Nazi economy to ruin—was undermined by opposition from the B'nai B'rith–American Jewish Committee gang and the socialist Labor Zionists who saved the Nazi economy in the Haavara Agreement. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Can you find a better "source" than Jacobin? You wee asked you since you claim to have "researched" that period. How many Jews did they save in Haavara? If you want to ask me what I think about Zionists efforts I can reply - trust me it was not all rosy. I can also tell you if I resoect Zionists more ir less tgmhan Haredim who refuse to serve in IDF (not related to the tiny group Neturei Karta per se). But that is if you wish to know and not propagate your war on ADL and all major Jewish organizations. All that criticism on Zionists icons have nothing to do with the noble Zionist idea or to switch it around and peddle anti zionist canards which today is a veiled anti Jewush war. Intentional or not. So far, what you implied is that Hitler and all those nazis who were eager to get rid of the Jews begore they saw it's possible just to exterminate...were so called Z. Regards.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
The Weizmann quote should be well-substantiated all over the place; you can look it up yourself, Dianne3000. As to Haavara, yes, some tens of thousands of Jews were saved. Unfortunately not in the millions to the extent of preventing the Holocaust from happening. IOWs, a minority of German Jewry willing to acquiesce to Zionism were rescued, while the anti-Zionist majority were targeted by the Nazi regime. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Now, I know someone out there, sooner or later, is bound to argue, "but what about the anti-Zionist German National Jews?" That group was highly fringe with zero real standing/influence, and the Nazis hardly tolerated them. OTOH, the Nazis "favoured Zionists over other Jews, citing their common nationalist ideals." (Tamar Wolofsky, "The Unlikely Entente: Collaborations Between Zionism and National Socialism fore the Second World War," p. 63)
[EC] Both the Nazis and Zionists had a shared goal of kicking the Jews out of Europe. As sorry as I am to say this, the Zionists jointly facilitated the Holocaust with the chief Nazi mass-murder thugs to wipe out the anti-Zionist majority of European Jewry and goad the remainder into moving to Palestine (the Nazi trope of "Judeo-Bolshevism" was an ever-so-convenient attack on the left-wing Jews who distrusted Zionism as a reactionary conspiracy). This is the harsh truth almost no one wants to talk about though needs to be said, and I'm getting very tired of suppressed history remaining suppressed just to please the IHRA/ADL/AJC apparatus which egotistically thinks they alone get to selectively weaponize the Holocaust and decide what amounts to "antisemitism." (and I'm sure RobSmith is familiar with all these facts; I'm very certain he probably avoids these topics to refrain from affronting you, Telling)
If you understand my intrinsic point that Zionism does not genuinely represent the interests of the Jewish people, hopefully all this can be understood with considerably less offense. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now? Sure.. which major Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"? (And you really don't know that most religious Jews were non Zionists - not just left winger secularists)?Telling (talk) 19:55, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
[EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:44, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
LT, pardon me for saying so but, you're pulling a "Ken", speaking on things you haven't a clue about. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
I know precisely what I'm talking about. Tell me, RobSmith, why did the American Jewish Committee oppose the boycott of Nazi Germany? Why did the AJC refuse to oppose the internment of Japanese Americans? Why did the AJC refuse to defend any Jewish individual targeted by Smith Act witchhunts? —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:54, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
It's an age old debate: Who do sanctions hurt, the leaders or the people they're trying to protect? Why didn't Truman arrest Weizmann and have him stand trial at Nuremberg when Weizmann visited the Oval Office? [5] RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:27, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
There will always be difference of opinions in how to deal on such magnitude of global events. Not to antagonize and working with or/and helping (like Arab-palestinian leadership did) is heaven & earth.Telling (talk) 22:52, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
[EC] The problem with all "major Jewish organizations" is that none of them are sincere. They are all run by hypersensitive snowflakes who act like they speak on behalf of Jewish people en masse (their shameless pride makes Absalom's ego look like marbles), who selectively invoke accusations of antisemitism in blatant lopsided agendas, who blanket-regard pro–human rights criticism of Israel as an attack on all Jewry, etc. If the prophet Jeremiah was alive today, he'd be called an antisemite by the ADL just as the contemporaries of his time hated him. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:51, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
AJC opposed boycott in order not to antagonize the elephant even more.Telling (talk) 19:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Well, how does Neville Chamberlain's legacy fare? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:02, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
So appeaser Chamberlin made a mistake - looking back. But you use exclusively appeasers to damn Jews in your upside-down views and a negative philosophy. What a shame. Of course you wouldn't call Chamberlin pro Nazi. Heck. After reading what you quoted on Eichmann, there is not much point...sure you will cite "sources." You did claim that he was "zionist" just because he said what he said as he wanted to get rid of the Jews (not "pro Jews in Palestine" as twist it around) just get away from Europe! Boy. What is the matter with you???Dianne3000 (talk) 20:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Well, Dianne3000, you just accidentally betrayed yourself and outed yourself as an antisemite. See, I'm rebuking Zionists for betraying the Jewish people and explicitly did not attack Jews, but you're asserting that my polemics are directed against Jews. IOWs, you are designating—the Zionists I'm condemning for Nazi collaboration—as "Jews." —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:17, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
LT, That "supposedly anti-Zionist." You really wrote that LT? One has to "prove" he was against any Jews or anything related to Jews??? Telling (talk)
Once again, Telling, please read my summaries attentively when I emphasize the clear distinction between Jewry/Judaism and Zionism. Of course it's a fundamental fact of history that Hitler was anti-Jew. However, this does not mean he was anti-Zionist. Hitlerite policies in practice couldn't have better facilitated Zionist aspirations fulfilled in 1948. [6] The rest of the dots shouldn't be that hard to connect especially if you examine what Brenner documented. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:01, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
To sum it all up.

I can not believe that someone who Telling said is a good person would ever type this. It's embarrassing. And it's with a 'passion.'Dianne3000 (talk) 20:24, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Gal. 4:16) —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:33, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
I don't want to offend you (nor did I call you an A.S. like you just did) but you have not said anything related to "truth." Sir. It's sad.

Dianne3000 (talk)

He confuses Zionism - the idea with what this or that Zionist did. You can do that with any ideology or religion! (He also carefully avoided that most religious --i.e Talmudic-- Jews were non Zionists. Not just the leftists). But at this point he is preaching and not any goodness nor facts but directing dots to his current tendencies.

This is to Dianne. I did write above that I have criticism of some Zionist leaders especially in the past. But the point is that most Jews today are linked to Z. organizational etc. One can make the conclusion. _

Unfortunately LT did not answer if there are ANY Jewish organization he is OK with. He was busy rationalizing against ALL. Still he is against most Jewry (which most are linked to AKA Zionists) and ALL organizations. Reasoning isn't the point. I still believe that in his core he is not bad.Telling (talk) 22:52, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

These kids these days, wuttayagonna do? He just needs to be guided in the right direction. Right now, he's reading the wrong esoteric material, or hasn't developed the proper interpretive skills yet. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:40, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Thanks RobS.

Conclusion on the intolerance

The following is not personal. I was thinking to post his reply. I think it's important for the clarity in these mishmash posting.

Parts I've edited from his reply: 1.The F word. 2. Shortned the Zionists or Zionism into initial. 3. An entire line of harsh language - removed.

From: Jo.....@gmail.com <jo.....@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2024, 7:02 PM Subject: On that LT hate. You can forward this. To: D... <D..............@gmail.com'>

Dianne.

Here is my prepared reply. Feel free to forward it.

Conclusion from what we've read these days (including elevating LaRouch, well, because he said things that sounds like music to his ears, his talk and on main page):

1. Hitler was merely "supposedly" anti zionist - LT.

2. Chamberlain was not pro Hitler for his appeasement but a J org. that was fearful, oh yeah, they automatically "were" - says LT (main page and his talk page).

3. Eichmann was a Z. - says LT, for he wished to get rid of the Jews [first] before he happily received the updated order to exterminate them. LT even quoted his sentence as "proof."

4. This f####d up thinking let's one to believe that the Nazi beaters of Jews on German streets in tghe 1930s' who shouted go to Palestine were... Z.

5. The Arab palestinian leadership (and polled majority) were pro Hitler / sought Hitler out just because of the British Freemason or masons, and even today, it's "others"' (fill in the blank) fault ["he made me do it" - line. Here the 'shared interests' is out the window too].

6. LT: All Jewish organizations are not good. They were never. But a small fringe group Oct/7 atrocities justifiers - guided by a radical Muslim Brotherhood Palestinian Islam "professor" - they are the good ones?

7. Neo Nazi pro-palestine activity don't matter. Because they are also listed by ADL... Nor do their deviant anti-Zion rhetoric "conspiracy theories" for decades (including " [#OG] occupied government" or/and terming anti-Zionist-Soros as a Z, among other stupidity).

8. For the record: at the time of bashing Kaballah, LT admitted (to T.) he doesn't know (when asked what a -- related -- Biblical verse means), but already chose to link it to "politics" and "race." How he will try to link it thereafter, is worthless. It's this evidently discredited troubling trend.

9. What is 'intrinsic?' He proudly quoted clips by anti-Zionist-Kaballistic Neturei Karta but was happy to find two people with other opinions (one can only imagine what he googled to prove his claim) so he was quick to "conclude" what he WANTS to. As long as he can create a "CABAL." And he really thinks that pepple aren't aware of the weird-salad-terminology he uses, used by (Neo) Nazis.

10. The blender of hotchpotch, jumble unrelated terms ignores that Talmudists were non Zionist and even anti Zionists, not only the atheists leftists.

11. Just because Hitler didn't see it yet feasible to get rid of the Jews entirely but only to "cleanse" Europe (nothing to do with a 'Jewish National Home' as LT would want one to believe), and on the other hand, (his hated) Zionists wanted more Jews in their historic land... So? Therefore they must be "linked." (Identical too?). Get that warped "logic?"

Yet, at the time that Zionism is linked to world Jewry, (current) canard promoter LT is very much concerned exclusively about 'Arab Nazi.'

12. LT will exclusively conclude any ideology linked to Jews as negative by cherry picking a case as an "example." (And/or just copying messed up sentences).

LT won't do it to other religions. (Difference between LT and T is that T has been criticising those that link Hitler to his Christianity for a variety of reasons). 7.12.24

In other words: 'Hey, I'm not against all Jews. Only against most of them. I even have facts/truth/sources.'

Keep in touch D..

Jo....

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End of email.Dianne3000 (talk) 22:14, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks Dianne. In LT's defense (if there is any) I think he is too focused on, or always looking for, ideological motivations in everything. I've tried to explain to him ideology is not always the motivating factor or guiding force in human actions and history. Sometimes people are just mean, instinctively cruel, greedy lustful criminals, etc. And maybe an ideology is used for cover. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:10, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Alright, back from Sabbath, and- yeah... I'm not even going to respond to these stale accusations anymore (I got better things to do). I already exposed the facade behind Zionists and neo-Nazis propagating the exact narrative to lump Palestinians with Nazis. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:35, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Fact: Hitler, Nazis were against anything related to, associated with Jews, (even removing any Christianity links to Jews). But LT decided he was "not" -- hear that -- anti Zion. LT basically says Hitler, the vernichtung guy... wished supposedly to give 'power' to Jews.

Asides from LT avoidance of what Rob quoted the famous Hitler to palestine nazi Arab leader: "The Jews are yours." Very much classic "zionism."

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The Age 10 Nov. 1936 REWRITING HISTORY. The demand of the Nazi newspaper "Westdeutscher Beobachter" that the Jews be eliminated from the Bible, and the Scriptures be rewritten so as to harmonise with the Nazi idea that the Nordic race, represented in its highest and purest form by the Germans, is the chosen people, is astonishing most educated people. But it is, after all, only a natural development of the self-worship of Nazis and their hatred and persecution of the Jews. The Nazi newspaper sympathises with the difficulties of German school teachers in explaining to - their pupils, that it was to a Jew named Moses, God revealed His commandments. How can Nazi teachers reconcile to the keen.. The Nazis have shocked the world by their barbarous persecution of the Jews in the effort to excel them from Germany; but to expel them from the Bible...

St. Petersburg Times · ‎15 Jan 1937. NAZIS REWRITE BIBLE TO SUIT HITLER'S IDEA Anti-Semitic Propaganda Inserted Into New German Scripture]. BERLIN, Jan. 15.— (AP)— , Extreme Nazis and Catnolic churcn leaders, usually at opposite religious poles, were agreed today in hostility to an effort to give the Bible a new, Anti-Semitic rendering, denting Jesus was a Jew.

That: Hitler's Nazi weapons shipped to Arab Palestinians to target Jews and Brits 1936-9 and his speech in favor of the Palestine Arabs don't even need to be brought up, only to a gullible confused person that misreads facts motivated - not by truth. . Old News flash: Secret German foreign policy documents, captured in Betlin in 1945 have just been released to the press. Aming them is the complete reception of Saudi's special envoy by Hitler at the Rerghof in 1939. The envoy was Khalid al Hud. Hitler told him that the Arabs and Germans had the same enemy: The Jews.

Hitler discussed "Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany." Khalid al Hud replied that "the P... Mohammed, who, apart from having been a religious leader, had also been a great statesman, and acted in the same way. He had driven all the Jews out of Arabia." ... The saudi representative met, too, with Nazi Forein Minister Vin Ribbentrop. The transcript revealed that von Ribbentrop told the Arab that the Nazi attitude toward the Arabs was "imbued with a warm feeling of general sympathy". Von Ribbentrop said the Germans and Arabs were linked by common aims and a common foe in the shape of Jewry." ...

Document No. 313 originating from Nazi diplomat Grobba in Baghdad, disclosed German finaneing of anti-Jewish terrorism in Palestine. The Nazis channeled funds and arms through Saudi Arabia for use by Arab marauders attacking Palestinian Jews.

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The "conflict" (1913-1948)

- 1913/4: The Ottoman authorities banned [7] Falastin for "inciting race hatred," it was especially triggered by an Islamic Sheikh's anti-Semitic poem there in 1913. The Brits reinstating Falastin triggered fears even by moderate Arab mayor. Indeed, the genocidal adbakh al-Yahud - "Slaughter the Jews" slogans were led by Al-Husseini in 1920/1.


- The brutal murder accompanied by rapes in Hebron 1929 (after inflaming by an Imam), was upon non-Zionist[8] orthdox Jews, who even rejected Haganah defense guys' offer days earlier.


- 1933-1946 overview: Arab Pro-nazi sentiments grew dramatically 1932-1939. (The British took control over Arab presss during war time). Even after the war, there were expressions of pro Nazis -- before and after hanging at Nuremberg trials -- by major Arab press in the land.


- Years before (1947/8) Jamal Husseini representing (AHC) Arab Higher Committee's refusal for the Partition because of Arab supremacy racism that it will disturb Arab ["https://books.google.com/books?id=vHRUEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA66 "race," and "homogeneity in race" of the Arab world,'] he ordered Mein Kampf and the infamous forgery The Protocols - (reported) June 1933.

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The efforts by Arab Palestinians to found the Arab Nazi Party:

  • The Mufti urges the Nazis to establish an Arab Nazi Party. He is rejected [9] at least initially.
  • End of 1935 the Husseinis found the "Palestine Arab Party" and its Hitler Youth modeled Futuwwa [10], was for a while called the "Nazi Scouts."

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Random facts: Nov. 1933, it was reported, a direct contact between the German Nazis and the Palestinian Arabs, Arab Riot Leaders, revealed by Nazis. And that "Eissa el Bendak, newly appointed members of the Arab Executive's administrative bureau, will direct a propaganda in Palestine in the interests of the Nazi party." Arab-Nazi collaboration took place on the ideological


Arab-Nazi collaboration took place on the ideological plane as well as the political and military planes. On a visit to Berlin in 1937, Mufti's emissary, Dr Sa`id `Abdel-Fattah Iman of the Damascus Arab Club proposed, inter alia, to promote National Socialist ideology among the Arabs and Muslims generally. [11]

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There is no space here on this page about The Nazi-Arab/Islamist Alliance Prepares for Battle and the war years. [It's important to note the June-1941 Arab-Nazi pogrom in Baghdad after incitement by Mufti and Arab palestinian teachers there. The red hand Hamsa was marked on Jews' owned locations ahead of time].


But here are a few highlights:


  • Historian review on major Arab newspapers in Palestine supporting Hitler; Falastin since 1932/3 - 1933 "Noble (sic) Hitler says Falastin" is an example).


  • Author - (on el-Carmel stating in 1932 its fascists' inspiration and) “All parties were dragged along by the extremists of the Istiqlal, whose newspaper al-Difa'a became a Nazi propaganda pamphlet.”


  • Kamel Mrowa ([كامل مروّه] Kaamel Mruwweh, Kamil Muruwa), as the editor of the Beirut paper An-Nida, wrote to Von Ribbentrop the German foreign minister in Berlin: "The whole Arab youth is enthused by Adolf Hitler." (1933). (In neighboring Levant - a blanket statement about Arabs in the area).


  • The editor of 'Al-Jami'a al-Islamiyya' [الجماعة الإسلامية] wrote on May 22, 1933: "When Hitlerism appeared, the Arabs cheered and rejoiced, saying: A blow from heaven in the hands of others..."


  • The Templars' Die Warte des Tempels wrote March 15, 1935, that many Arabs saw Hitler as the most important man of the 20th century and almost every Arab knew his name. Fascism and National Socialism with its anti-Jewish attitude were accepted positively by many Arabs.


  • Nuremberg (Nazi events) effect in rousing Arabs of Palestine: The great momentum of Nazi propaganda in the Middle East occurred in September 1935. When the "Nuremberg Laws" against the Jews were discovered and published, Hitler received greetings from all Arab countries and Islam. The largest number came from Palestine.


  • 1936-8: "Nazi flags and pictures of Hitler were prominently displayed in store windows. Booklets explaining Nazi methods of forcing Jews from the Reich were distributed freely... The shout of 'Heil Hitler' became a catchword which rang insolently over all Palestine." (1938 book).


  • The NYT May 1937, how 'All' of Palestine celebrated Muhammad's birthday with flying Nazi swastika and pictures of Hitler.

Arabs' newspapers, urging the pupils to disobey Government Education Department issued orders prohibiting Arab pupils to participate in the May 1937 demonstrations.


  • 1937, Walter Doehle, German consul in Jerusalem: "Palestinian Arabs in all social strata have great sympathies for the new Germany and its Führer…" Unveiled documents of Nazi official in Palestine writing to Berlin in 1937:

‘Arabs admire our Fuhrer’ - “The Palestinian Arabs show on all levels a great sympathy for the new Germany and its Fuhrer, a sympathy whose value is particularly high as it is based on a purely ideological foundation,” a Nazi official in Palestine wrote in a letter to Berlin in 1937. He added: “Most important for the sympathies which Arabs now feel towards Germany is their admiration for our Fuhrer, especially during the unrests, I often had an opportunity to see how far these sympathies extend. When faced with a dangerous behaviour of an Arab mass, when one said that one was German, this was already generally a free pass.”


  • Awni Abd al-Hadi (leader of the Istiqlal Arab Independence Party and member of the Arab High Committee [AHC] in Palestine, Ahmad Shukeiri’s employer), Jan 1937 general statement: 'Arabs Like Nazis'; bragging he read Mein Kampf.


  • Journalist John Gunther in 1939: "The greatest contemporary Arab hero is — Adolf Hitler." (Elaborating on the Palestine link about it).


  • Ahmad [Shukairy] Shukeiri's testimony in his 1969 book (pages 199-201) about 1940, on all - sympathizing with the Nazis.


  • Noted in 1937: "leaders of the Arab youth who seem to be more extreme in their nationalism than the older generation. Educated in schools which are, in spite of government ownership, hotbeds of chauvinism and anti-Jewish propaganda, these youths are also greatly influenced by fascist and anti- Semitic tendencies in present-day Europe. Hitler is for many of them the glorious hero and teacher."


  • Some 88% in Feb. 1941 poll (by Sari Sakakini) - favoring the Axis: Arab-Palestine.


  • We Arabs supported Hitler during WWII because he hated the Jews, recalled in a 2019 interview, former Jordanian health minister Dr. Zaid Hamzeh who was nine years old at the 1941 Rashid Ali coup days. (A general statement on Arabs, especially by witness in the very area).


  • That the pro-Nazi Mufti represented the consensus of Palestine Arabs and had major backing of parties there. Per (anti-Israel author) Edward Said's concession.] And Time Magazine in 1946: 'The 53-year-old Mufti... is revered as a spiritual leader by Palestine's Arabs.'


  • Jaffa Arab activist, in telling the story of his childhood, as a matter of fact, during the war: "most of the Arabs in Israel were in favor of Nazi Germany." [Referring to Arabs in the land of Israel - Mandatory Palestine].


  • 1940, in an American popular magazine, it was simply put, that "Palestine's Arabs admire Hitler for his Jew-baiting."


  • Historian on the Arabs in the land, referring on the WW2 period - atmosphere: "anticipation of the results of the war and wishes of the majority of Arabs that Britain would emerge defeated in it."


  • Author, journalist historian: The Arab street, which had been trained for decades to hate the British and harass the Jews, now found in Hitler, after his first victories, with the beginning of the war, the one who fulfills his wishes... The relationship between Hitler and Haj Amin determines the mood in the Arab street... The land of Israel was indeed a home front country and lived in relative peace, but the Arab street did not hide its admiration for Hitler and the Third Reich. Hitler was portrayed in the minds of the Arabs as the greatest friend of the Arab nation. They admired him for his hatred of the Jews and for the fact that he despised them and decided to exterminate them from the face of the earth. Hitler symbolized bravery and wisdom, leadership ability and certain victory.


  • A founder of the League for Arab-Jewish Friendship, after consulting with all her Jewish friends who have been in contact with Arabs for many years, and with all her Arab friends, in May 1942: "The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine and throughout the Middle East believe that Hitler will conquer the whole world. The current Arab leaders, who all support Hitler, believe he will win because they want him to win. The Arab masses also believe that Hitler is the most powerful force in the entire world, and therefore he is obliged to come out with the upper hand.

However, there are a number of Arab intellectuals, merchants, workers, and farmers who are not sure of Hitler's victory..."


  • In June 1942, as the British bastion 'Tobruk' fell to the Nazis, Palestinian Arabs (as well as other Arabs), rejoiced.


  • CIA August 1942 report:

majority of the Arabs in Palestine Palestinian Arabs are fiercely 'anti-Jewish'… the radicals, who form a majority, see in the approach of Rommel an ideal opportunity to murder all Jews their seize their property.


  • Dec 21, 1942 letter, representatives of the Reich and the NSDAP in Palestine described the Arabs' hope for a great Arab state: "Arabs in Palestine were waiting for Hitler to come to Palestine and expel all the Jews. They hoped for a German intervention to solve their conflict with consideration of their needs. Rommel was their legendary hero. Many Arabs truly believed in the Germans' victory. Some of them even listened to the short-wave German broadcast, the Kurzwellensender."


  • Nazis' planned 'extermination of the Jews in Palestine,' (stopped by Desert Rats - elaborated book), relied on help that they awaited from many local Arabs ready to serve as willing accomplices of the Germans in the Middle East.


  • An Egyptian, who visited the country in the days after the conquest of Berlin wrote: "The people cry in the morning and sob in the evening. And blow to their cheek between morning and evening."


  • Reaction of most Arabs that heard of the fate of the Jews in Europe, summer-1942 - 'open joy.'


  • Author recalls: "My father ... knew that most of the Palestine Arab leaders supported the Nazis."


  • Naturally, Arab-Palestinian Leader Farouq Qaddoumi stated (2013): We Supported The Nazis In WWII - as a general description - because of common anti-Zionists.


  • Arab "Palestinian" leader, in Jerusalem (then under Jordanian rule), in spring of 1967: "We Arabs supported Hitler to get the British out of Palestine and to keep the Jews from taking it over - and that was our big mistake..."


  • Prof. / author:

The vast majority of the Palestinian (and all-Arab) national movement identified, whether openly or tacitly, with the position of their Mufti al-Husseini World War II leader, a loyal partner of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann in the decision to physically eliminate the Jewish people.


  • As it was put in 1949:

There is hardly a single Arab leader today who in those days was not an ally of Nazi Germany. The Nazi-Arab partnership flourished at a time when the war was close to the gates of our country, and names such as Rashid Ali, Amin al-Husseini, etc. still symbolize the "glorious" period of this idyll. The ending, as recalled, was not so glorious. ___


Now, those are facts

PS, LT did not link Hitler to his Christian upbringing but he chose to link "inspiration" not on Hinduism nor on Islam Sufism by some who belonged to a group before Nazism who 'heard' a salad of ideologies. Ironically, he quoted Walid Phares who is rather anti Palestinian as harsh as any radical right winger zionist.Telling (talk) 23:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Alright then, how about now researching into what Masonic fronts in the Arab nations were doing leading up to and during that time period? The fact of the matter is that the "Arab-Nazi" canard ever-so-conveniently feeds Zionist narratives to delegitimize Arabs and justify Nakbas. And what's ignored in that compilation is that Nazi Germany was warm to the Zionists. So that naturally begs the question: if the Nazis genuinely supported Arab anti-Zionism, why did they simultaneously cooperate with the Zionists in the 1930s–40s and ultimately serve Zionist ends?
The simpler, logical explanation is that the Nazis were Zionist collaborators and tricked the Arabs. The Arab nations were beguiled into believing a) that Zionism was representative of Jewry, and that b) the Nazis were helping them fight Zionism. It's ever since been a perpetual whirlpool cycle of deceived Arabs choosing to align with racial antisemites that in turn is seized upon by Zionists to delegitimize Arabs and justify anti-Arab violence. I've explained this multiple times, but some people just choose to ignore the basic logic. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:41, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
I did not read LT last "reply" as yoou have proven not to be connected / concerned to truth.

This guy is still on with thus garbage. OMG Dianne3000 (talk) 23:49, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Whatever. I have meaningful content to catch up on writing elsewhere. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:52, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Proverbs 28:13.

Candance Owens boldly tells Don Lemon: Same sex "marriage" is sin

https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1811479900970254521 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

It's a shame Owens is shilling for Hitler, a homosexual prostitute. (see Samuel Igra's book Germany's National Vice) —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
She is only like Chamberlin. Right?Dianne3000 (talk)

occultic Anglo-Jesuit rubbish

I was talking to a nutjob named DeMyer some time ago and he peddled the obnoxious Marcionite dispensationalist view of Ezekiel 38–39 being fulfilled in the current Israel–Palestine War. Of course, this is a bunch of utter occultic, reactionary propaganda peddled by the cabalistic Anglo-Masonic operative Lord Palmerston and Jesuitic tools John Darby and Cyrus Scofield. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:01, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Here we go: Occultic cabalistic Catholic Anglo-Masonic bolshevic Hindu Christian Jihad Amish Zionists Samaritans...Dianne3000 (talk) 19:19, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
LOL. Dear D.Telling (talk)
Me too. As my dad used to say, "If you had a brain, you'd be dangerous". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:59, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
😂😂 Dianne3000 (talk) 20:02, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Dianne3000, how coincidental do you think it is that the "Christian Zionist" apparatus of 33rd-degree Freemason Billy Graham was early-on propped up (when Graham was far from famous) by reactionary Nazi collaborator and Illuminist media mogul William Randolph Hearst? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:05, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Actually Freemason Eichmann was a hindu bolshevik cabal-ist Evangelical MuslimDianne3000 (talk)
Wait till the books are opened. (Rev. 20:12) Which side of Final Judgment are you going to be on? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:22, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Are you sure Herzl didn't "inspire" [😂] Eichm_ann? I'm sure you can find a source Dianne3000 (talk)
I didn't say that. Herzl's antisemitism is somewhat of a different story. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 20:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Yea whatever. After all the rubbish above. Anything is "applicable." Have a great evening sir. Nothing personal. A hint, if you get it: Ahmadinejad was more than happy to embrace 2 and half (Kaballistic) neturei karta - in "exchange" of wiping out 7 million (hey look, see? I'm not against Jews..."). N'uff said.Dianne3000 (talk)

Anyone seen this pastor calling to vote Dem?

I refer to Andy Stanley.Telling (talk) 21:48, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Haven't watch the whole thing yet, but what he's said so far is don't hate the Democrats (or think of them as evil, I think...). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
If it's just that, then OK.Telling (talk)
He's not saying "vote for Democrats", he's refuting the premise, "you can't be a Christian and be a Democrat". I have many Democrat Christian friends. They might be screwed up in the head, but I don't doubt some, if not many, are Christians. And they think the same of me.
Now the intolerant, totalitarian Democrats are no different than intolerant, totalitarian Republicans, of which we have many, as well. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:18, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
That's a whole other story - screwed up Christians in the head.... RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:22, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
Our great Rob always with interesting choice of words. BTW: Musk donates to super pac working to elect Trump, Bloomberg reportsTelling (talk) 19:26, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
That, and the Shellenberger video (1:57 sec) about Musk I just headlined should be read together. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:33, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
As a Christian, Christians make it too easy to criticize the church. I find myself among groups of people - believers and, let's say, "the confused" - who rail on and on about bad churches & preachers. I have to bite my lip. It's too easy to criticize - they make it too easy. And personally, I feel, that's not what God wants. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:29, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
Are you referring to criticism of this or that particular church or of The Church - as the system?Telling (talk) 20:00, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
It's usually somebody, after hearing the gospel, railing on about this or that hypocrisy in the church. It's not the church that offers salvation to a lost sinner, it's the person of Jesus Christ. So they are just making excuses, by reflecting outward against others, to avoid making the internal change or repentance God asks for. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:10, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

NATO begins sending F-16 jets in new support for Ukraine

"NATO begins sending F-16 jets in new support for Ukraine U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the F-16 transfer “concentrates Vladimir Putin’s mind on the fact that he will not outlast Ukraine, he will not outlast us”" https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/nato-begins-sending-f-16-jets-in-new-support-for-ukraine/article68393015.ece NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:06, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Antony Blinken, now there's a credible source. A true American hero, patriot, and leader. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:52, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
So if poopy pants Biden isn't making decisions, who's behind leading us to WWIII? Blinken? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:47, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
Poopy, I heard that about Whoopi too the other day after her anti Trump rant about Biden poop....
Whoopi's the globally international recognized expert on the matter. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:43, July 12, 2024 (EDT)

Elon Musk SHOCKS World: Officially DONATES To Trump 2024 | Richest Man on Earth Goes Full MAGA

Elon Musk SHOCKS World: Officially DONATES To Trump 2024 | Richest Man on Earth Goes Full MAGA

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1811934325136339055 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:42, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Bad Fruits of Bad Eschatology: always believing end is imminent and just a few months or years away leads to defeatism and lack of long term Conservative Christian building

"I, and everyone I knew believed that this world was doomed and that the apocalypse was imminent.

And here’s the thing… If you believe that Jesus is coming back next Tuesday then you have virtually no impetus to undertake the kind of cultural building projects that will take generations complete.

This is why eschatology matters. What you believe about the end WILL shape how you engage in God’s mission in the present.

You see, the Left had/has an “optimistic” eschatology. They are hyper focused on building their egalitarian commie hellscape no matter how many generations it takes!

Meanwhile, Christians have, for half a century now, sat back, sang some songs, said some prayers, done some evangelism, and diligently waited for Jesus to come helicopter out his faithful few beleaguered soldiers from this cosmic Vietnam.

What if this world is not God’s Vietnam? What if we actually began to intentionally sow seeds that our great-grandchildren would keep?

What if we began building cultural institutions that would not be completed for generations?

What if, like the proverbs say we actually sought to leave a cultural inheritance to our children’s children?

I of course argue for an optimistic eschatology. I have become convinced that Postmillennialism makes the most sense of the most biblical data. But even if you disagree with Postmillennialism, I would implore you to, at the very least, live like it were true."

https://x.com/haymes_joshua/status/1811816439310905790 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:50, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

The person above apparently believed this from the 60s, and clearly many others he knew also did. Yet, 60-65 years later, here we are. It applies especially to false believes like the "Pre-Trib Rapture". Rapture is Post-Trib, as 1 Thess 4 clearly says no one will be caught up until the dead in Christ rise first, and John 6:40 clearly says that happens only on the Last Day, i.e. at the End of Time and Second Coming. But even if one does believe in Pre-Trib Rapture, always believing it is "next Tuesday" can lead to defeatism and escapism rather than long term attempts to win back the Culture. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:53, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

"Behold, I am coming quickly." - Jesus (Revelation 22:7). "You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” - Jesus (Luke 12: 40). Conservative (talk) 03:11, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

That's a Warning to prepare for Death, because Christ will come in Judgment to meet us when we die. It's not an excuse for defeatism or escapism. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:55, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Papias, a very early church father who had contact with the Apostles (particulary John) was a premillienialist.[12][13] And there is strong circumstantial evidence that Polycarp, who was a disciple of the Apostle John, was premillenialist.[14][15] In terms of theology, postmillenialism is a 1600s Johnny come lately eschatology.[16] Premillenialism is a far more historically sound because it can be traced so much historically closer to the apostles. Conservative (talk) 07:52, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
In addition, your initial post, even if true, is an appeal to consequences logical fallacy. Conservative (talk) 07:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Oh God no, not another lesson in logical fallacies again. How about the, "I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about logical fallacy"? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:27, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Ken, you utter moron, your theology is the "Johnny-come-late" drivel. No one believed this "Gog is Russia" propaganda until the Jesuit/Anglo-Masonic stooges Lord Palmerston and Cyrus Scofield invented it out of thin air. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:47, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

The main point is about being purposeful and optimistic in one's Eschatology, not pessimistic, escapist and defeatist. I believe the Millenium will certainly take place and Christ will work some visible signs before it to help complete the Great Commission. "Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers the church by the Spirit, and charges the church with the Great Commission (Matt 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of people living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows."[/b] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmillennialism I do not agree 100% with the above, but I think it is good, optimistic eschatology. But regardless of which school one follows, one must not be defeatist or escapist, or refuse to plan more than a few months ahead, for e.g. like 5 or 10 or 25 years ahead. It's important to ask, "Where will Christianity be in 2050, if the Lord tarries, and what can we do and build right now to help get there" instead of saying "the so-called Pre-Trib Rapture is surely going to happen by 2025/2030 anyway, so we don't need to". NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Take no thought for the morrow. Sufficient is the day the evil thereof. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:43, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Taken out of context, as it's speaking of being excessively concerned for material goods like food and clothes. But read on: "But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Mat 6:33) And we pray for the coming of that Kingdom of God every day when we say the Our Father, praying, "Our Father Who Art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, On Earth as it is in Heaven". This is the Messianic Kingdom of 1000 years spoken of in the Book of Revelation by St. John. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:59, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Oh, ok. Thanks. Me personally, I have faith in God, and I'm not worried about what comes hereafter. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:08, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Nishant, you make an excellent point about the longterm harm of predicting an imminent end of the world, as it deters beneficial, necessary efforts having longterm goals.
Thanks, Andy! Recently, another Andy who owns a website, namely Andrew Torba of Gab said, after similar experiences, that he too feels the same about the "longterm harm of predicting an imminent end of the world, as it deters beneficial, necessary efforts having longterm goals." as you so rightly put it. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 11:20, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

‘Divine Judgment’: Pastor John MacArthur on Biden, Trump, immorality and the Church

MacArthur's not completely wrong that God's Judgment is upon America, as it is upon any nation that winks at adultery, sodomy, abortion, porn sluts (like the RNC did), LGBTQ genital mutilation etc. But he should note two things (1) First, there are more than 10 Righteous Men (and Women) holding back God's Judgment, unlike in Sodom, as God/Jehovah said they could; (2) Second, if he really felt this way, he should have spoken up and completely backed the Social Conservative Candidate, Ron DeSantis. Anyone can complain that things are going wrong. The issue is to find the Solution to fix it, and then pray and work to implement that solution. If not now, then in 2028 at least.

"Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church articulated a stern view of President Joe Biden’s leadership during a recent interview, framing it as a divine judgment and a reflection of societal moral decline. America is a nation reaping the consequences of its moral choices, he declared.

During his interview with Breitbart News Daily, MacArthur spoke about the Biden administration’s vocal support for trans ideology as emblematic of a society straying from biblical teachings. When a society “turns to sexual immorality, homosexual immorality, and a reprobate mind, God gives them up,” MacArthur said, suggesting that the current leadership exemplifies the punishment described in Romans 1." https://www.christianpost.com/news/john-macarthur-on-biden-trump-immorality-and-the-church.html/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 11:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

God damn NATO to hell. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:09, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Such statements are not of God, who wills all men to be saved. See: "2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim 2:4).

Also, see Ephesians 4:29 which condemns cussing: "29 Do not let unwholesome [foul, profane, worthless, vulgar] words ever come out of your mouth, but only such speech as is good for building up others, according to the need and the occasion, so that it will be a blessing to those who hear [you speak]." (Eph 4:29, Amp. KJV). NishantXavierFor Christ the King 11:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

It's my prayer, and I'm asking for relief from an institution of Satan. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:36, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Dump the Knights of Malta in that category as well. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:50, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Trump injured at rally

I don't see any news at Wikipedia. --Ed Poor Talk 19:30, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Some of the gun shots may have been return fire by the Secret Service. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:31, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
  • The sniper who took a shot on former President Donald Trump's life is dead, sources told The Post.
  • The Secret Service counter-assault team "neutralized" the threat, the insiders said.
Let's pray for his recovery, Thank God he is alive!🙏🏻--CatolicoAustral (talk) 20:06, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Mango Caesar is a Knights of Malta–controlled stooge educated at the Jesuit-controlled Fordham University and mentored by 33rd-degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peale, and his reelection will trigger a global insurgency of theistic, Nazarene Communism. When Paul said to pray for rulers, the context was to pray for God restraining them from persecuting His people. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:38, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
LT, now you're doing the same cut n spam of discussions a certain editor who starts with a "K" and ends with an "n". Be a little more creative, will ya? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:26, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Oh well, don't say I didn't warn you when a bunch of Satanically manipulated right-wing theocrats begin advocating global totalitarianism amidst an insurgency of false "resurrection" miracles. Then when close of probation comes and you're numbered with the wanting, what are you going to do then? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:29, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
I'm once saved always saved, so I don't worry about it. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:34, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
That definitely explains a lot. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:53, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Stephen Bryen (a highly credible source) says 2 shooters. [17]

Should we provide updates on his condition? "Shot" implies "killed" in some people's minds. --Ed Poor Talk 20:24, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

They're now saying "grazed"; I think it's too early to give the OK or all clear sign until we know more about the shooter or shooters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:34, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Trump will explain all in his Acceptance speech. Meanwhile, Biden's trying to capitalize with a "ban guns" speech after inciting violence. Then we also have the problem of the CIA having whacked JFK, so "official" reports and narratives shouldn't' be taken at face value. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:38, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Trump was shot? Sounds like a false flag intended to rile up right-wing Orange Bolshevist frenzy as part of the PRS catalyst to institute the soon-to-come image of the beast, courtesy of the Maltese Anglo-Jesuit powermongers. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:36, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
yah yah yah, heard it before. That bit has already been analyzed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:59, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
What evidence is there that this is not a false flag? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 22:32, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Yah, ok, I get it. Trump hired somebody to shoot him in the head. Sounds plausible. Especially for a man 76 years old who won't recover as quickly as a younger person, just days before he makes the most important speech of his life. Ok, let's run with it. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:12, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
[EC] I'm not saying that Trump himself was behind it; it would probably be his Maltese bosses. The fact of the matter is that in the "long-run," this shooting only helps draw out more sympathy for Mango Caesar and serve as a pretext to justify Orange Bolshevist terrorism. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:23, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Two questions: If Trump had no knowledge of, or didn't agree to being shot, it wouldn't be a "false flag", then would it? Secondly, if Trump got killed, which would be high risk, it wouldn't be a false flag for his alleged "bosses" then, would it? While having a brain dead corpse serve in the Oval Office isn't unprecedented, there's no record of a dead corpse being elected, is there? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:32, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Plus the added bonus of having to cancel all rallies for the remainder of the election season cause nobody's gonna show up if they risk getting shot or killed. And think of all the money he'll save not having to stage anymore rallies. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:18, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Dear LT, please stop 'conspiracy theories,' as well as illusions, whether on historic facts (twisting around WW2 truth etc.) or current events. Take heed and learn from (pre WW2) incitement/ demonizing what it led to. Routinely as you're constantly proven wrong, you only keep on the dreadful way, instead of being humble. It's very sad.

We are all praying for Trump now! _

The image of Trump defiant pumping his fist: 'Fight.' Wil be engraved in our national history.Telling (talk) 23:40, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

We'll need two pages: add into the main Trump bio page, and second page on Trump assassination attempt. The shooter has yet to be identified, which probably means they are looking at conspiracy (if they proclaim "lone gunman" in the first couple of days, beware). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:39, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Let's pray for President Trump's recovery. Thank God he survived the assassination attempt. Wishing him a complete recovery. Then, we must get to the bottom of who did this. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 23:41, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Amen!

Thanks: Telling, RobS and NishantXavier.

(Praying also for the soul of LT...)

To RobS, see page created. Thanks.Dianne3000 (talk) 23:49, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks Dianne. (Proverbs 28:13.).Telling (talk) 23:59, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

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Thomas Mathew Crooks,Thomas Matthew Crooks ID’d as gunman who shot Trump during Pa. rally. Telling (talk) 00:56, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Ducking down

videos show him quickly clutching his ear and then ducking down to the ground [18] --Ed Poor Talk 20:43, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

The entrance wound looks like it may have entered his skull, IMO. A 22 is a lightweight bullet.
Apparently it was a professional sniper. He may have scored a headshot on the second shot. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Suggested "connection" to the 'Judeo-Christian'

If I recall correctly from Glen Yeadon's "The Nazi Hydra in America," Eisenhower and his Administration were Nazi collaborators (namely the Dulles brothers). Now, this is interesting, considering Ike's early role in fomenting the right-wing "Judeo-Christian" religious alliance those evil godless secular atheistic Soviet Communists. And it's a well-documented fact that William Randolph Hearst—the reactionary, racist Illuminist media mogul who supported Hitler—commanded his newspapers to boost the early apparatus of Masonic initiate and dispensationalist mouthpiece Billy Graham.

Anyone like to guess why the same Masonic-Illuminist elitists were connected to both the Nazi and "Judeo-Christian" cause? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:56, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Historic contest: "Judea Christian" was first used by in 1821 re convets to Christianity. In LT's context terminology it was first used by in the 1930s to dustinguish from Fascidm snd Cimmunism then prominenta by conservative Ronald Reagan. See my comment above (including Nazis rewriting Bible removing the Jew) about your OVERALL anti-facts and your flawed trend , monstrous language, converting canards into supposed "facts," and facts into supposed "canards," most strange word-salad, attempting so hard to "connect" totally unrelated or even contrast ideas. Attending to your searched out cases for your horrific war is pointless. God bless dear LT. I hope you see the light and truth in future.Telling (talk) 23:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
Noticed fkd up title LT created first linking N to J? This is the guy who pretends not to be against Jews. A 2nd attempt within days apart. Another "anti zionist" exposed.Dianne3000 (talk) 10:29, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
I was referring to the false, Masonically crafted, syncretic concept of "Judeo-Christian," not literally the Jews. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:38, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Blaming video games again

Seriously? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:07, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Gen. 12:3 abuse

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

I keep hearing right-wing "Christian Zionist" dispensationalist mouthpieces say over and over and over that this means one must bless the Jewish people or be cursed. That is a blatant distortion of biblical context—the seed of Abraham is Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:29), so the conditions for blessing pertain to whether one is of Christ, not whether one blesses a singular ethnic group.

Yes, your exegesis here is right, and in accordance with the nearly universal exegesis in Christendom for around 1850 years. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:38, July 15, 2024 (EDT)


Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

—Romans 9:6–7

Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: for he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

—Romans 9:27–31

Literal Israel in the Old Testament was a typology for spiritual Israel (the apostolic church) in the New Testament era—for as the literal nation of Israel was marked by literal circumcision of the flesh, spiritual Israel is marked by the spiritual circumcision of the heart. Dispensationalism is a syncretism of "Protestant Christianity" with Judaized, "backwards" theology ignoring antitypical fulfillment in Christ. The literal nation of Israel definitely ceased being "God's chosen people" in 70 A.D. when their house was left unto them desolate. (Matt. 23:38)

Christian Zionists need to read and understand the Bible instead of regurgitating ### from Masonic evangelical loonheads. I'm getting incredibly sick of dispensationalist rightards deceiving masses with their "Gog is Russia" mantra likewise. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 17:40, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Gen. 21:12

"...for it is through Isaac that descendants will bear your name."

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1. Zionists secularists base their idea on history.

2. Religious Zionists Christians / Jews, base their ideology on Bible - basically. (Even rare Islamic Sheikh -- like Mr. Palazzi -- quote their Koran for Jews' rights to the land).

3. Talmudists non-Zionists and anti Zionists religious Jews base their opinion on Talmud against taking matters into one's and and more.

Yet, Arab terrorists target as much, and even moreso, the non Zionists and even anti-Zionists Jews to murder them.

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(PS One who converts to Judaism is considers a son of the nation no matter one's ethnicity. Because it is not about "race". Indeed there are unique Arab palestinians who converted in live in Israel too).

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This is not intended to anti facts current-wave linked persons.Telling (talk)

Gen. 21:12 is simply an affirmation that the Messiah would come through the line of Isaac rather than Ishmael. Just for the record, it does not validate "Christian Zionist"/"dispensationalist" arguments about the modern State of Israel. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:36, July 14, 2024 (EDT)
This is not a reply to the self invented "interpretation" just uttered by someone.

But for the record. Gen. 21:12 is not connected to (a) "messaiah" but to the SEED [multiplied] of Abraham which all blessings / promises apply as in Genesis 15:5. However as mentioned, a convert become as much as a son the nation as a whole.Telling (talk) 22:42, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Trans people aren't what they used to be

Jim Carr identifies a comedian and uses the pronouns "he, he, he." PeterKa (talk) 22:15, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

DEI almost killed Trump

The whole country knew whose coke was in the White House cubbyhole, but not the Secret Service. Various people saw the gunman on the roof, but nobody did anything. It wasn't a conspiracy. Its all about unqualified diversity candidates being promoted. PeterKa (talk) 23:34, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Interesting note.Telling (talk) 00:00, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
One wonders if Biden's own security is entrusted to DEI hires. PeterKa (talk) 02:35, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Prioritizing DEI instead of professionalism in security, is as dangerous as can be.Telling (talk) 02:44, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle is a Dick Cheney/Joe Biden operative. [19] Cheatle deleted Secret Service text messages from J6 while covering Mike Pence. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:22, July 15, 2024 (EDT)

"This is a chance to bring the whole country, even the whole world together."

BREAKING: Trump has completely scrapped his original RNC speech, says he sees a chance to bring the whole world together during an interview with @ZitoSalena.

“That reality is just setting in. I rarely look away from the crowd. Had I not done that in that moment, well, we would not be talking today,” he told the Washington Examiner.

“This is a chance to bring the whole country, even the whole world together. The speech will be a lot different, a lot different than it would’ve been two days ago.” https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1812677102606700769 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:56, July 15, 2024 (EDT)

Zito is a Washington Examiner journalist and has beem pro Trump since 2016. She was one of the first to have reported on the rally.Telling (talk) 12:28, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
All eyes on Trump's acceptance speech. Trump needs to dispel the notion of a lone gunman. He could use phrases such as, "they tried to kill me", etc. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:38, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Wow, and just like that, the left and right will unite... wait till the Sunday agenda rolls out. I've warned you all for a while. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:50, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Actually, I'll be more specific and explicit here: there will soon come a day when the "left" and "right" set aside all their differences and throw support to a Sunday-rest legislative agenda, and both direct their fury towards a remnant group of Christians "who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Rev. 12:17) IOWs, a citadel remainder of Mosaic Christians who keep the seventh-day Sabbath, observe the biblical feast days, understand the state of the dead, reject Jesuitic propaganda, and separate themselves from this crooked, rotten world. Everyone who bows down to the cult of papist Orange Bolshevism into the close of probation will suffer even worse divine judgment than the backsliding Israelites did after bowing down to the golden calf. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:08, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
OMG, the world's coming to an end. C'mon man, you can do better and be more creative and imaginable than posting Ken-type redundant spam. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:12, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
You want new material? Fine, then I'll be happy to hear your input in this new debate page I just created: Debate: Should Christians keep the feast days. I'm sure this will be a hot topic quickly. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:15, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
(ec) Take the Project 2025 thread you started at the top of this page. Apparently, you were on to something. Follow up now. Or the Nick Fuentas fiasco (see latest email discussion thread). Again, you were spot on. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:16, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
I will post about both Project 2025 and the Fuentes/Jesuit connection... on my Substack, ideally later this week. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:18, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Thanks to some recent "help," now I have an extra case exhibit to demonstrate that Nick Fuentes is a Jesuit stooge. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:19, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Good. Now you can link from Nick Fuentas to substack (and vice versa). That's a good place to start. I won't tell anybody. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:24, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Well, since CatolicoAustral hijacked the Nick Fuentes article here at Conservapedia into an ultramontanist neofascist apologetics sewer, I absolutely will not be linking to that article from my Substack unless citing an example of Schlafly-enabled RW-Nazi trolling, and that's definitely not a subject matter priority for my Substack publications whose primary audience are, well, let's just say "hard anti-imperialists leftists," with their main focus on exposing the right-wing globalist Naziopoly.
Now, if in the near future Andy has a prominent Maltese role in crafting the Project 2025 agenda as part of pushing the U.S. to the brink of Nazarene Communism, then sure, I might start linking to Conservapedia from my Substack for polemical purposes. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:30, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
I'm just saying trashing pointing out the flaws in Nick Fuentas arguments would bring some balance to that article, as well as a good starting point to build an audience for criticizing Project 2025. And Project 2025 has a limited shelf life anyway til November 2024, so proselytizing Fuentas followers and critics is good starting point. Now is as good a time as any.
All you need to do, to refute what CA says is add, "Critics say bla bla bla" in one sentence with a link to substack where the rebuttal is fully expounded. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:37, July 15, 2024 (EDT)

Tim Scott..."If you didn't believe in miracles before Saturday..."

He rocks at RNC...“If you didn't believe in miracles before Saturday, you better start believing!”... "America is not a racist country."

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Teamsters' Sean O'brien [heavy Boston accent] "Trump proved to be one tough S.O.B."Telling (talk)

Nice. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:46, July 16, 2024 (EDT)

I wonder if Sean O'Brien and Markwayne Mullin kissed and made up at the convention? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:13, July 16, 2024 (EDT)

Of course Vance was the perfect VP pick: he's a Nazarene Communist

My views on public policy and what the optimal state should look like are pretty aligned with Catholic social teaching. That was one of the things that drew me to the Catholic Church. I saw a real overlap between what I would like to see and what the Catholic Church would like to see.

J. D. Vance, Aug. 11, 2019

Catholic social teaching = Nazarene Communism. (E. M. Josephson, "The Federal Reserve Conspiracy & Rockefellers," p. 3) —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 11:28, July 16, 2024 (EDT)

How do you know it's his views and not just a campaign speech? Are you saying politicians are honest? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:32, July 16, 2024 (EDT)
Sometimes people make damning admissions. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 12:37, July 16, 2024 (EDT)

Labor unions, Communism, and Sunday Law

Listen to this; the RNC has gone full Bolshevist-Fascist. This was exactly what Mussolini's Italy did: create a "national syndicalist" federation under the umbrella control of a single-party labor bloc to control industry. "Class collaboration" is Fascism.

Along with environmentalism, labor unionism will constitute the left wing of the soon-to-come Sunday Law. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 12:39, July 16, 2024 (EDT)