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Operation Prosperity Guardian

I added your thought [here].Telling (talk)

Thanks. I'll try to lay out the context of how many days delay using alternate routes, etc. in the next few days. This page will be a longterm project, lasting months, at least. Although fireworks can erupt at any time. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:34, December 20, 2023 (EST)

Check your email

I got your message. Please check your email. Conservative (talk) 14:55, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Essays

Let's give the creator of essays greater freedom over their own essays. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:46, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Andy, we decided a long time ago opinion Essays do not belong in Mainspace categories. That Essay in particular is just redundant racist spam cut n pasted from about 2 dozen other Essays designed to manipulate Google search traffic.

Furthermore, Conservapedia has a rule against self promotion, and in these spam Essays he has a link to all his other Essays with his user name.

If the Mainspace category is to remain, then the rule against self-promotion should be enforced. Thank you. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 20:51, December 22, 2023 (EST)

What User:Consewrvative is doing is building an algorithm to promote himself, at the expense of all other editors. Thank you. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 20:53, December 22, 2023 (EST)

We have a Category where it rightfully belongs, Category:United States History Essays, and if it's a contemporary subject, Category:United States Essays should be created. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 20:58, December 22, 2023 (EST)

In those Categories the editor should be allowed to link to himself. But using Mainspace Categories for self-promotion of his personal opinions should be denied. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 20:59, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Rob, you make good points but I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best. That includes you too. Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)

I see your point; there's no problem with that. But cheating like this, bending the rules to create algorithms inside Conservapedia to promote his own Essays is what has led to his success. I could have done the same thing a long time ago, but chose to abide by the rules.

More recently, he has created algorithms inside Conservapedia to suppress other editors work, specifically User:LT and myself. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 21:31, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Leaving aside his active subversion of other editor's Mainspace contributions, it is this edit here, tying all his Essays together, that creates a very powerful algorithm. That, coupled with Mainspace categorization, makes it even more powerful. Users are prohibited from self-promotion in Mainspace, so he gets around that by tying it into a Mainspace category with hundreds or thousands of pages linked. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 21:49, December 22, 2023 (EST)

I don't think that affects traffic to anything other than his own essays, so I think more freedom on this is best. We want to avoid here the stifling aspects of Wikipedia. Thanks for understanding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Aschlafly (talk)

Well it does affect traffic. When I introduce terms to him that he's never heard (like "multipolarity" for instance), and he writes a half dozen screeds attacking multipolarity which he knows nothing about. When I Google the term, his crap comes up and mine is suppressed.

That's all he's done for the past six months, is use search terms he never heard of that I write about, then spam them into a dozen Essays trashing the concepts with neocon sources, promoting his own pages while also having an algorithm that specifically suppresses my content. And it's by cheating - blatant self-promotion - that he gets away with it. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 22:14, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Basically, I am being censored cause I cannot use any new search terms that he hijacks and writes some of the most despicable screeds attacking the term, person, or idea. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 01:54, December 23, 2023 (EST)

In sum: All I can say is, this cheating and trolling you want to give license to will ultimately have a negative effect. And we have not even discussed his active duplicity and suppression of other editor's contributions with other algorithms. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 22:33, December 22, 2023 (EST)

Tying things up

If you want Conservapedia's traffic to go up or at least not go down as fast, I would suggest cleaning up your user page so it's not an attack page on another editor.

But if you don't want to take my advice, so be it. Your just hurting your own readership and the website's readership. Why? Because nobody is interested in your dispute with another editor.

That's the last string I wanted to tie up. Conservative (talk) 01:35, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Okay. I won't spam attacks against other editors across other editor's user pages anymore. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 01:37, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Biden's MEX trip/trick

I see this as a desperate campaign propaganda after this. Which won't explain him in this field. If he loses, which chances are big, it will be: economy and borders. Shall we have a special 2024 campaign page - GOP VS DEM?Telling (talk)

The United States presidential election, 2024 is the main Portal page; we need 2024 Joe Biden presidential campaign and 2024 Donald Trump presidential campaign subpages. I'd recommend using the 2024 Biden campaign page to start. We can always cut n paste information or susections from one to the other and/or create Redirects. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 22:24, December 27, 2023 (EST)

I created a link from the main Portal page to 2024 Joe Biden presidential campaign here. Thanks. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 22:40, December 27, 2023 (EST)

Here's the Category you can use: Category:United States Presidential Election, 2024. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 22:42, December 27, 2023 (EST)

Thanks, a side note. Trump does beter with Latinos b/c of economy. [1]. But more importantly. Happy New Blessed Year!!!Telling (talk)

Yah, you too. I'm always here to help.

Dems forget that Blacks & Hispanics still believe in God & family, and that's where Conservapedia plays a big role.

On Prosperity Guardian, I might do some updates on the military/diplomatic situation - but you have full editorial discretion and control. So if I word something improperly or use a source that doesn't meet your expectations, it's your baby so do what you like. Thanks again. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 23:17, December 27, 2023 (EST)

I appreciate that. Just a note. The whole idea of peace through strength is that we won't need to use force... or at least not as much. Which Trump was good in a way but the master was Reagan. And this posture importance - Biden & co. Didn't get, before Iran felt emboldened to unleash its Houthis dogs. Telling (talk)

Right, deterrence. And Mutual Assured Destruction. But all that's out the window now. Climate change has replaced nuclear war as the No.1 threat, US neocons think they win a nuclear war under the doctrine of Nuclear primacy, and there's no serious diplomatic efforts or discussions anymore.

So we spend $900 billion on defense, and have to beg Japan to send Patriot missile systems to Ukraine? Where's all the money? What if Japan needs Patriots in a war with China over Taiwan? And how is $200 billion sent to Ukraine "only 5% of our defense budget" as Nikki Haley claims? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 00:37, December 28, 2023 (EST)

Ukraine aid is losing steam...gradually. But look how powerful pro immigrant lobby is that it, in a way, put a hold to foreign aid... as GOP rightfully demanded border security preference.Telling (talk) 01:20, December 28, 2023 (EST)

The deal was something like $61 billion for Ukraine and $4.5 billion for the US border. That's unrealistic.

They need to demand the resignation Mayorkas and clamp down on the border as part of the deal, and at minimum cut that $61 billion request in half. Even if the border were sealed tomorrow, no way will 10 million illegal new arrivals ever be deported. Probably not half that number. If Trump were to take office in 2025, he'd struggle to deport 1 million over 4 years with much controversy. Nobody is looking at this problem realistically. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 01:28, December 28, 2023 (EST)

I got 2024 Joe Biden presidential campaign. You wanna take it from here? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 01:49, December 28, 2023 (EST)

In your opinion, is this ad effective enough?Telling (talk)

That's as much as you can pack into 30 secs. It's ongoing, and growing. Look at these 2 shorts from today:

47 secs - Illinois NAACP president suspended for calling migrants "savages" and rapists, CBS Chicago;

1:29 - CNN reports that BLUE STATE voters are getting concerned about Biden’s Border Crisis.

The times they are a 'changing my friend - fast. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 23:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)

Indeed. Despite Biden's disastrous broken-borders policy. (This is from liberal) USA Today. "Black, Hispanic and young voters abandon Biden, new poll shows."

Jan 1, 2024[2]Telling (talk) 23:18, January 2, 2024 (EST)

I can't believe the DNC will let him run. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 23:20, January 2, 2024 (EST)

You yave a valid point. Especially with such a low showing. They need a 'boost.' Hope you have a blessed new year dear friend.Telling (talk) 23:33, January 2, 2024 (EST)

You too, bro. Maybe Congress will take him out with the 25th Amendment or something. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 23:40, January 2, 2024 (EST)

Not saying Vivek is my hero. But at times he gives it to MSM - right on... Kudos on this one[3]. Another issue, DeSantis was asked about Ukraine (today on CNN TownHall), he replied that the way Biden left Afghanistan emboldened adversaries, that "it sent a signal to Iran and Russia." He complained that Biden doesn't give a red line on Ukraine.Telling (talk) 01:29, January 5, 2024 (EST)

Vivek a young man, and he's going places. I've been trying to think of job for him in Second Trump Administration. He could probably fill lots of spots, from Commerce Secretary to one of those jobs like Office of Science and Technology (a pretty important spot). Or maybe press secretary. 12:48, January 5, 2024 (EST)

Check your email

Please check your email. Conservative (talk) 17:56, December 30, 2023 (EST)

I did. My phone doesn't ring, remember? Answer the phone when I call you back. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 18:23, December 30, 2023 (EST)

I sent you another email. Conservative (talk) 18:42, December 30, 2023 (EST)

Check your email. I just sent you another email. Conservative (talk) 19:12, December 30, 2023 (EST)

Re: Your edits on my talk page

First off, don't condescend to me and treat me like I was your "pet" like you did in your most recent edit on my talk page because it's demeaning and insulting and people don't like being treated that way, okay?

Second, as this specific rule states, a user's pages and space (including his/her talk page) is his/her castle and can be done with as the user wishes (including the removal of unwanted messages) - but you only heed that rule when it applies to you and your talk page alone while you go out of your way to ignore that same rule when it comes to everyone else and their talk/user pages as you see fit (just as you likewise ignore the other rules here - some of which you unilaterally created yourself, without input from anyone else here - that you impose on everyone else).

Another thing to note - as much as you want to pretend otherwise, criticism of your behavior on this site is not "trolling", "incivility", "gossip", "vandalism" or "personal attacks" (except according only to you, further proving what others here have said about you self-righteously playing the "victim" when called out on it while you go out of your way to engage in victim-blaming and refusal to take responsibility for your own actions against User:LT by falsely blaming User:Conservative for "extending" the blocks which you yourself unjustly and falsely imposed against LT based on false claims by you of "incivility", "recidivism" and "violating the 90/10 rule" because you didn't like his criticism of your behavior) and acting vindictively and spitefully to unjustly block those who criticize that behavior is both an unjustified and abusive use of that power - but then, I've noticed you only go after those who stand up to you, yet don't have the means to protect or defend themselves against said abuses of power by you, so what does that say about you? Also when you do that, all it does is prove the points of everyone here who has criticized what you have done to drive off other editors or otherwise force them to curtail their activity on this site (and in doing so, severely cutting down on editing/article creation activity on this site in the process).

The sooner you realize what you've been doing to harm this site and its ability to grow (and the sooner you come around and change your ways and your attitude because of it), the better off you'll be here. Northwest (talk) 03:30, January 5, 2024 (EST)

Bla bla bla. This incivility and vendettas are coming to end. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 12:19, January 5, 2024 (EST)

I think you really mean your own incivility and vendettas against the critics of your behavior, don't you? Thanks for proving my point once again. Northwest (talk) 12:23, January 5, 2024 (EST)

WHat point? You left 3,500 bytes of crap on my page that I didn't read. I've been debating with myself about removing it, but I think that's rude. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 12:27, January 5, 2024 (EST)

You claim that you "didn't read" what I posted, but it's evident from your reaction that you did, and it further proves what I (and others) have been saying about your refusal to take responsibility for your actions and to shift blame to others. Northwest (talk) 12:35, January 5, 2024 (EST)

What reaction? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 12:41, January 5, 2024 (EST)

The exact reaction you're engaging in right now, Rob - and BTW, thanks for also proving your choice to ignore the "my user/talk page, my castle" rule when it comes to everyone else's talk pages here with your continued reversion of my removal of your snarky and condescending post (which violates the incivility rule, another rule here that you conveniently ignore when it suits you alone, also demonstrating your willingness to ignore any rule here that doesn't suit you - including those laid down by others, including even Andy). Northwest (talk) 12:50, January 5, 2024 (EST)

The incivility and lynch mobs are coming to end. If you have a problem, there is place for it. If you have a problem with another editor. There is place for that. The days of spamming attacks against other editors all over the wiki are ending. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 12:55, January 5, 2024 (EST)

BTW, was it you who hacked Bhathorn's account? RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 12:56, January 5, 2024 (EST)