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Despite User:Cons incessant trolling and globalist views, Citizen Journalists have defeated the mainstream globalist narrative and saved the planet from Chernobyl 2.0.
(ec) Ok. I apologize, and I will adhere to that policy. I only ask User:Conservative cease his relentless trolling of me with pure nonsense. We have just gone through probably the most difficult week of the Ukraine war, and I must have wasted more than two whole days of that week with his uninformed, unconstructive, redundant, incessant trolling on other talk pages. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:02, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
None of this is good faith editing. He apparently just moments ago forged User:Elijahandskip's signature to his user talk page (without a date and time stamp) and there is no record of User:Elijahandskip ever posting to his talk page. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:16, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, I replaced Elijahskip's post HERE, with a more recent response I made to my User:Conservative/mail page which came from User: NishantXavier. But I am guessing you are not obsessing over any minutiae related to my posts. Conservative (talk) 03:46, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Bad faith editing is bad faith editing. The question is, why was a polite and cordial invitation from a good faith editor 2 and half years ago ever ignored and summarily deleted in the first place? And why is it resurrected now, after the good faith editor was treated rudely and ignored? RobSGive Peace a chance 03:51, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Pardon me, but I don't believe when we passed the "Castle" rule, it gave Admins the right to treat good faith editors rudely and ignore their requests and inquiries. If you wanted to ignore him, that is one thing; to delete his posting completely as if his time and effort is just garbage and beneath you, is another. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:00, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I am not having any further discussions with RobS due to him: rudely using templates covering my texts in civil discussions; reverting cordial posts in civil discussions; falsely calling me a Nazi; screaming over the phone, etc.

I read an interesting article entitled You’re NOT The Average Of The Five People You Surround Yourself With which essentially echos the American basketball coach John Wooden who said “You show me your friends, and I’ll show you your future.” I also recently read the classic assertiveness training book entitled "Your Perfect Right" which is a fantastic book - especially when it comes to dealing with difficult people.

Needless to say, my days of having unnecessary discussions with RobS are over. And I am not reading his content. Conservative (talk) 04:05, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

"Rudely using templates", huh? From now on, what if I just delete the whole talk page you post to, as you have done for 15 years? RobSGive Peace a chance 04:10, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, above is a prime example of one if his trolling techniques: to spam the discussion with extraneous and irrelevant material. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:12, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, as I am sure you are aware, I have actively attempted to avoid interacting with RobS. And you kindly asking RobS to stop posting to my user talk page should temper his recent obsessive behavior towards me. I suggest that RobS fill his schedule chock-full of meaningful activities rather than obsessively posting to my talk page messages that he knows that I am not interested in. Conservative (talk) 04:18, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
More spam and more bad faith editing. You invited yourself here to Andy's talk page to interrupt my comments to Andy. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:24, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, I have nothing further to say to you. I am going to go back to doing more productive things. I suggest you do the same and move on. Life is too short to engage in pointless obsessions and petty bickering. But by all means, feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 04:32, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
I do not believe, as you told me on the phone, that Andy agrees with you that conservativism means being stubborn and ignorant. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:36, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Oddly, he even admits his quixotic trolling is hopeless. [1] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:21, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

More bad faith editing

See also: bad faith editing

After being called out for dishonesty and fraud by altering an editor's good faith posting, he again misuses the Deletion log to cover his tracks. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:55, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I have been trolled now for 5 hours with specious editing and an attack page, wasting an entire day. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:37, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
NishantXavier is the person debating me RobS - not you. And NishantXavier has criticized various Protestants and Protestantism in our Protestantism vs. Catholicism debate and of course I am going to criticize Catholicism and various Catholics in our debate.
In addition, the User: Conservative account has had a Catholic editor use the account. I haven't had problems with the Catholic editor who shared the User: Conservative account for entire time he has used the account (And Andy doesn't have any issues with him either and allowed me to share the account with him). Also, Andy Schlafly is a Catholic and we have a cordial relationship. And unlike you, RobS, I have never been desysoped by Andy due to uncivil behavior. Conservative (talk) 20:27, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
Go on, just keep venting your spleen against Roman Catholicism for 12 hours after you said you made your final post. That, by any definition is trolling and being incourteous to other users' time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:38, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
I have an inclination that our debate is winding down. I know I have touched upon the most relevant points I wished to make. It's been a while since I was a Catholic so it took a while for me to recall some of the points about Catholicism that I neglected to mention in the first 90% of our debate. In addition, I was mainly responding to User: NishantXavier throughout most of the debate. But in the latter portion of the debate, I initiated some of my own points. Conservative (talk) 21:14, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
The Debate was supposed to be about you responding to criticism of the writings of Martin Luther, not attacking Catholicism. Nice venture into whataboutism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:27, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

I disagree. The title of the debate is: Debate: Luther, Protestantism vs. Catholicism: Which is better? and User: NishantXavier has made many posts to it. Conservative (talk) 21:45, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Why would I agree to a "boxing match" where I could merely block my opponent's jabs, but I couldn't make any counter jabs? I would never agree to such a debate. Conservative (talk) 21:49, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
You're trolling now. All anyone needs to do is read the "debate" from the top line. It began with you calling the Body of Christ "a corrupt joke" two years ago, and standing by your statement now. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:38, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, you called Catholicism "a false gospel" as can be seen HERE. Conservative (talk) 22:42, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
I said the Roman Church teaches a false gospel (as many, many churches do). That's a far cry from calling the church members "a corrupt joke", which you've had three years to ponder over and doubled down on. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:24, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
  • He has dozens of times to myself and to other users, in CP, on the phone, and in emails, said he has no interest in politics and is withdrawing from discussions, yet continues creating trolling Essays in support of globalism and Ukrainian Naziism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:54, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
  • August 25, 2023: "My user page doesn't have one iota of concern about you";
"My user page doesn't have one iota of concern about you", Aug 25, 2023.
  • August 25-29: 20,000+ bytes of spam and trolling added to his user page between August 25 and August 29, including 43 direct references to "User:RobSmith" by name. [4]
"I don't negotiate with terrorists", added during a 91 hour troll-a-thon between Aug 25-29 naming User:RobSmith by name 43 times.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:25, August 30, 2023 (EDT)

Trolling

  • Monopolizing discussions by repeatedly talking more than the other side despite saying little to nothing relevant/coherent; [bolden added]
  • Employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users or to distract them from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions. [bolden added]
  • Intentionally engaging in behavior designed to irritate others [bolden added]
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:31, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, please look at the Conservapedia logo Andy picked. It features the USA flag. USA! USA! USA! See: Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future. Conservative (talk) 12:16, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
Hey, you're the one who said America's great strength is adhering to economic policies of an incompetent pedophile (and will continue to be for the foreseeable future). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:19, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Essay space used to create incivil attack pages on other editors

Andy, doesn't this violate a basic precept you asked editors not to engage in some time ago? Please intervene. Thank you. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:28, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, just because someone disagrees with you and defends a post he made about Ukraine (which you posted on your user page) by giving the context and historical context, that does not violate Conservapedia's civility rules in any way.
Civility not equal alway agreeing with RobS or not defending one's position when it is unfairly attacked in a way that does not give adequate context. Conservative (talk) 19:33, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Essay:Nonsensical postings made by a certain Admin (Please add to the list). RobSGive Peace a chance 19:40, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Bottom line: RobS, You keep wanting to bait me (In this case with an out-of-context quote of mine that you put atop your user page without the context of the material I said around it nor the historical context) and then insist that I do not give a rebuttal. Well, I am going to give a rebuttal. And it is very unreasonable of you to not think that I will not give a rebuttal or do not have the right to do so. Conservative (talk) 19:42, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
If Andy doesn't respond, I guess it's open season. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:44, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Folks, let's stick with the substantive editing to encyclopedic entries. It's far more beneficial to all. We do have a 90/10 Rule against talk. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:21, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

I agree Andy. Have you looked at RobSmith's user page? He's obsessed with me. I must have struck a nerve with some of my essays. I encouraged RobSmith to post counter essays that argued the opposite of some of my essays, but apparently, he knew he couldn't marshall the evidence and sound arguments to do so. Conservative (talk) 13:52, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

My advice: Watch Gerald Celente's latest video [6] and post up some Conservapedia proven right rather than climbing in bed with globalists; after all, you used him at least 22 times on MPR. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:22, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, in the past you argued that the USA should have the big military budgets it had in the past and currently has. I have always argued for a much smaller USA military budget and balanced budgets for the USA. Who is the globalist?
Also, Conservapedia's globalism article states: "Globalism is anti-American in encouraging Americans to adopt a "world view" rather than an "American view." The ultimate goal of globalism is the eventual unification of humanity under a one-world government. Communists and Marxists are using globalization to advance their political aims."
RobS, did you not write this statement: "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)".
And RobS, who most bitterly hates my essay The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future? Is it not you? Conservative (talk) 14:32, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
I'm just looking at your sources, like the Council on Foreign Relations, for example.
If you wish to side with Nazis, that's your business. I can only warn you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:38, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
You should have stuck with Celente, rather than NeverTrumpers, like Ian Bremmer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:40, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
"The relevant metric now isn't left versus right. It's anti-establishment versus pro-establishment.

Namely, do you think the loss of trust that these institutions of authority have suffered is valid or not? Do you think that they deserve the contempt in which they are held by a large portion of the population?

I believe it's absolutely justified to hold them in contempt.

That's the fundamental distinction that defines our political spectrum more than old definitions of left versus right." [7]

And no, I'm not in bed with your pro-establishment views from the Atlantic Council, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Open Society Foundations, the London School of Economics, etc. etc. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:11, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, you are just angry that the evidence suggests that in terms of international relations, the evidence indicates that the world is largely bipolar and not multipolar. See: Essay: The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?
I quote John Joseph Mearsheimer who said in 2023: "The Americans have a vested interest in pivoting full force to East Asia, to contain China. The Americans view China as a more serious threat than Russia. It’s very important to understand that China is a peer competitor to the United States. China is a rising great power and is a threat to the US in ways that Russia is not. So the Americans have a vested interest in not getting bogged down in a war in eastern Europe, more specifically in Ukraine. Furthermore, they have a vested interest in doing everything they can to make sure that Russia and China are not close allies. What happens as a result of the Ukraine war is that it’s almost impossible for the US to fully pivot in Asia." [8] See also: Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future.
Also, Ian Bremmer agrees more with you about China's ability for growth in the future (for the next 10 years at least) and I merely cite him as a counterargument to my belief that China's future does not look good. Once gain, you are using the genetic fallacy. Just because I cite Iam Bremmer about one matter, it does not mean that I agree with him on that matter or on all matters. Please stop being illogical. Conservative (talk) 15:03, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
P.S. User: RobSmith, just look at your user page. As I have said several times, "The cat that gets hit by the shoe, yelps the loudest". Conservative (talk) 15:10, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
Look, you never heard the terms "unipolar, bipolar, or multipolar" until I introduced them to you. You are in way over your head. Go find some other living human being on social media to latch on to and harass other than myself, since you've been kicked out of Rationalwiki and have been told not to use CP to harass Ratwikians. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:08, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, evidence? Show me one instance of you using the word "bipolar" on this website as far as "international relations". I have a fairly good memory and I cannot recall you using the word "bipolar" in terms of international relations.

I am getting the feeling that your high degree of narcissism is kicking in as far as you being the one who introduced the word bipolar to me in terms of internationalism. But prove me wrong. Conservative (talk) 15:19, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith/Esaay:Hillary's_Inner_Goldwater_girl#The_past_is_present. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:19, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, as I just did a search for the word "bipolar" on the page RobSmith/Esaay:Hillary's_Inner_Goldwater_girl#The_past_is_present as can be seen HERE and there are no instances of the word "bipolar" being on that page.
It looks like you just struck out, Mr. High Degree of Narcissism. Conservative (talk) 15:25, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
Uh duh, try hyphenating it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:27, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
I just found it using a hypen. Regardless, your essay only received 232 page views. Like most people, I certainly didn't read it. Conservative (talk) 15:30, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
The essay was originally written for Rationalwiki in the 2016 presidential election; I moved a copy to user space here sometime afterward. I've used research material from it in several articles here since. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:32, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
Given that essay was written in 2015-2016, I used the term "tri-polar" rather than multipolar. The issue of India joining the permanent members of the UN Security Council, if I recall, was dealt with in another piece elsewhere. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:30, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
You're in over your head. Let's stick with what we know here. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:42, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, look at my user page at: User:Conservative. It doesn't mention you a single time which is very fitting. On the other hand, looking at User: RobSmith, you are certainly obsessed with me. I am the bee that is in your bonnet. As a famous boxer once said, "Fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee!". I certainly stung your views on St. Putin, Russia and the future of Russia and multipolarism. It's driving you mad and your obsessed with me. Conservative (talk) 16:00, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Breaks my heart. Delete this garbage and I'll be happy to make a revision. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:06, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
I will delete the material that is a bee under your bonnet. Now if means your user page doesn't mention me that would certainly show that you are moving in the right direction and are no longer obsessed with me. Conservative (talk) 16:15, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
There I deleted it. Now it's time to show that have ended your obsession with me or that it is at least winding down. Conservative (talk) 16:17, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
I made a gesture of good faith and deleted my user space essay which partly responded to your commentary on your user page which I believe quoted me out of context and made it appear as if I meant something I clearly did not mean. But I see you made some main page edits, but did not reciprocate by removing your nonsense relating to me on your user page.
Your lack of reciprocity was not surprising. Why do I say that?
RobSmith you wrote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"[9]
Robs, putting yourself on the same plane of Plato shows that you have a gargantuan amount of narcissism. And Machiavelli is known for his duplicitous and cynical hunger for power so it does not surprise me that you hold him in high esteem.
When I see that you are ending your ending your obsession with me on your user page, which I believe in malevolent in nature and unprincipled, then I will delete my user space essay response to it.
But it is rather humorous that you are obsessed with me on your user page because I tipped over some false, golden, pet hypotheses calves of yours. Conservative (talk) 17:39, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
What are you rattling on about now? I can't keep up with your convoluted logic and reasoning.
I'm still trying to make sense out of how you link me to the views of Ian Bremmer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:47, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

The three Dark Triad personality subtypes are narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopath. Overall, the Dark Triad personality traits share certain features, such as emotional coldness, duplicity, and aggressiveness.[10]

Health.com states concerning people with dark triad personality traits and one of the best ways to deal with them: "...people with dark triad personality traits may be able to change, but the likelihood of that happening is "minuscule," noted Hokemeyer. "The personality traits that make up a dark triad are deeply ingrained in their psyche and highly resistant to any sort of challenge that would manifest a change. The best strategy is to move away from them as quickly as possible."[11]

RobSmith, again you wrote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"[12]

Is it surprising you put yourself on the same plane as Plato and Socrates given your narcissism? Is surprising you love the work of Machiavelli and practice Machiavellianism so you are duplicitous and show no remorse? None of this is surprising.

But I laugh at your obsessive, futile and aggressive quest for power over me that overflows on your user page. It's so desperate. If only you could create counter-essays that refute my essays. I certainly have invited you to do so.

And my user page at User: Conservative is certainly is not going to mention someone as inconsequential as you. At this point, I am taking Health.com's advice and totally ignoring you. Conservative (talk) 19:27, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, clean up all that garbage and I'll be happy to revise my Castle page. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:34, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
Keep it up. Let it be a memorial to your Dark Triad personality traits and your love and admiration of Machiavellianism. But know this: I laugh at your obsessiveness and your desperation.
Put that your Machiavelli Discourses pipe and smoke it! Conservative (talk) 19:42, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
You should go to work for the Biden Justice Department; it's pretty sad when a reader can't discern between a joke and reality. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:46, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
And you should be proud of yourself: you found a way to maliciously attack your imaginary enemies in Mainspace articles rather than trying to educate the public with encyclopedia articles, or using Essay space to attack other editors. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:39, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Get a girlfriend RobSmith. Maybe that will help you with being so obsessed with me on your user page. While I do laugh it, it is rather pathetic and desperate.

“...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.” - Captain Ahab, Herman Melville's book Moby Dick.

Ahab longed to find the White Whale and get revenge for the leg he lost. RobSmith longs to have his pet hypotheses that I put through my meatgrinder essays. RobSmith, write counter-essays to my essays - unless of course you lack evidence and sound arguments. Conservative (talk) 20:13, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

I'd guess, since April 2022 when you stepped in doggie doo-doo talking about geopolitics - a subject the more you speak about reveals the less you understand - you've expended well over 150,000 bytes on nonsense (some of which you actually deleted) and probably over 300 hours; my problem is you probably wasted well over 30 hours of my time with your trolling. And you got your underwear in a knot cause you said on April 17, 2022, "The next month will not determine global politics for the next 30 years" after NATO quashed a peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia and went peddle-to-the-metal with all out war. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:21, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
“ Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: "Do not march on Moscow". ”

—Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery [13]

RobS, I explained why that tentative peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine in April of 2022 was more fragile than most vases and inconsequential HERE. You never provided a counterargument. You merely ranted.
And Putin's decision to launch his special invasion in February of 2022 into Ukraine didn't stop Russia's demographic decline. It accelerated Russia's demographic decline. See: Russia's fertility rate and Demographics of Russia and Aging of Russia. Conservative (talk) 21:17, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
You thought it was just another far away war against goat herders that could last 2 weeks or 20 years and wouldn't affect you; you swallowed MSM BS hook, line, and sinker. And you still do. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:21, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
You're missing a good live update on the war right now. You ought to be trying to educate yourself, rather than get into these stupid arguments with me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:28, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
And Mearsheimer has a new vid, too (even though everything you write contradicts what he says). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:32, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, Dr. Al Siebert who was a former paratrooper wrote the book The Survivor Personality: Why Some People are Stronger, Smarter, and More Skillful at Handling Life’s Difficulties…and How You Can Be, Too. Siebert offers his findings from autobiographies and hundreds of interviews. He interviewed survivors of adversity such as war, cancer, abuse, job loss, and addictions.

A book summary of his book can be found HERE.

Consider buying the book. Perhaps then, you wouldn't have such a cupcake view of how this war is going to very much negatively effect you. As far me, I am quite confident that I will have a wonderful remainder of my life that is full of glorious victories!

"Not that I am referring to being in need, for I have learned to be content with whatever I have. I know what it is to have little, and I know what it is to have plenty. In any and all circumstances I have learned the secret of being well-fed and of going hungry, of having plenty and of being in need. I can do all things through Him who strengthens me." - The Apostle Paul, Philippians 4:11-13. Conservative (talk) 21:56, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Good. Ignorance is bliss.
Do you have the same racist attitude toward the people of Niger that you have against the Asiatic hordes people of the Russian Federation? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:02, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
There you go with your Machiavellian duplicitousness again. You know darn well, I listen to Russian/Slavic music, Russian Orthodox music and Russian classical music as can be seen HERE, HERE and HERE.
I know Dark Triad personality traits are deeply ingrained in your psyche, but I suggest repenting so they can be "degrained" in your psyche. Conservative (talk) 22:11, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
Meaningless. Your only argument is, "They all are going to die anyway cause of a low birthrate and demographics, so who cares?" RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:16, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Health.com states concerning people with dark triad personality traits and one of the best ways to deal with them: "...people with dark triad personality traits may be able to change, but the likelihood of that happening is "minuscule," noted Hokemeyer. "The personality traits that make up a dark triad are deeply ingrained in their psyche and highly resistant to any sort of challenge that would manifest a change. The best strategy is to move away from them as quickly as possible."[14]

Bye RobS. I hope you get over your obsession with me for your sake. Conservative (talk) 22:24, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

I'll pray for you, that your mental health recovers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:28, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
"the one who introduced the word bipolar to me in terms of internationalism."
I get it now. Pardon me for being a bit slow sometimes in trying to make sense of your postings. "in terms of internationalism". Ok. When I first used the term "bipolar", you confused it with bipolar disorder, which you're probably more familiar with. After a day or two of googling, you became an "expert" to refute anything I post.
Ok, now it makes sense. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:03, August 13, 2023 (EDT)
See how he maliciously continues this trolling. Who is Alexander J. Motyl? Wikipedia says, "Motyl's parents emigrated as refugees from Western Ukraine after World War II," i.e. "Western Ukraine", the territory Russians today call Banderastan. Why did they emigrate? Motyl's parents were Nazi collaborators and wanted Nazi war criminals in the Soviet Union. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:54, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
“ Ukraine, or rather Eastern Ukraine, will come back in five, ten or fifteen years. Western Ukraine can go to hell. ”

—Quoted in Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and Remaking of World Order, 1996. p. 167. [15]

He never bothers to do the basic research; he creates Essays and Mainspace articles, not for educational purposes, but rather to attack his own perceived personal "enemies".
Atlantic Council: Bandera: Hero of Ukraine?, By Alexander Motyl, March 15, 2010. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:25, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
And what does Motyl say in his Reminiscences? A "recent PhD from Stanford [University], Ian Bremmer, who was a friend of mine", or Motyl gets all giddy about receiving money from George Soros, among other highlights or rather lowlights. But these are the "expert sources" User:Conservative is using to refute my writings on the Ukraine war and his defense of Ukrainian nazism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:39, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative did the same thing with Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations, which he never read, to promote globalism, and which Motyl even comments on in Reminiscences:
"in general the stuff we produce has an impact on the discourse and the framing of issues, but that’s about it. It’s more a kind of glacial impact. And then once in a while, right, I mean, you’ll have a guy like Samuel [P.] Huntington produce a catchy book called Clash of Civilizations, and then everybody’s quoting him."
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:51, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Using Essay space to attack other editors is a fundamental violation of CP civility rules

[16] He's free to do it in his own userspace. I thought we settled this matter. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:51, July 26, 2023 (EDT)f

The essay made no mention of you. Expressing views you disagree with or don't like is not a personal attack. You are behaving incivilly and intolerantly. If you want a place on the internet where only views that you agree with and like are expressed, launch a blog or website that you own and have complete control over. Conservative (talk) 16:19, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
That's a lie. The entire Essay then, and now as it remains in your user space, is predicated on a statement I made In April 2022, which you at the time refuted. And now you spent 50,000 bytes and several weeks trying to walk away from the refutation cause you can't simply delete it, as has become your habit when you make stupid remarks. 16:38, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
Undelete the essay dealing with Russian war crimes in Ukraine and show us where it mentions you. Conservative (talk) 16:44, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
{ec) That's what the Scroll Template is for: for when an editor makes a trolling, nonsensical, or off topic remark intended to derail discussion. The Scroll Template is one solution to Admins abusing their power with deletion, deleting whole discussions and other editor's postings when the Admin makes stupid or embarrassing comments. An Admin should first function as a Moderator, resolving problems and conflicts, not stirring up conflict on Talk pages with spam and self-serving off-topic references. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:51, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
You unsurprisingly failed to show I lied - very predictable. I am moving on.
I predict that Andy will totally ignore your spurious complaint.
Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 16:54, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
Here's your Essay attack on me in your user space. You just lied again. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:04, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
You're trying to waste my time as my former essay on Russia war crimes in Ukraine did not mention you. I am not going to sucked into your dysfunctional behavior. Conservative (talk) 17:24, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
You'ew being deliberately deceptive and disingenuous again, trying to bamboozle Andy this time with more BS. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:52, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

An Admin is vandalizing other users Talk pages, again, in violation of the Castle rule, to hide his embarrassing arguments

[17] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:10, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Let's see if the user himself complains. He hasn't yet, as far as I know. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:12, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
We agreed in the past, due to Protestant conflict with Dataclarifier and other Catholics, that debates would happen on debate pages and not user pages. Conservative (talk) 17:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
That does not give you any right to revert other users talk pages and other users' discussions. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:21, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
He did it again. I did not participate in the formal Debate page, yet User:Cons made it appear I had. I made private, confidential postings on a user's talk page, where only the user has the discretion to remove it. This is very disrespectful of users' postings. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:06, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
Nowhere in my Conribs (with one exception) is there a record of me participating in the formal Debate, yet now I have to contend with someone who may claim I did. This is extremely unfair and misleading. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
I served notice three years ago, I am not interested in church debates, 'who's better than who', yet my signature was electronically forged to appear I lied and do not stand by my word. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:17, August 1, 2023 (EDT)
You two absolutely need to give it a rest. You are both adults and this is a wiki on the internet. Every time I check Andy's talk page there's always something one of you is up in arms about. Ethan Parmet (talk) 17:58, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
Agreed. I am deeply ashamed for getting caught up in this constant trolling and stupidity, but the consequences of not speaking up to defend myself likewise have not proven to be effective. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:43, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but matters like this belong in Conservapedia:Kangaroo Court. User:Conservative likes to play the "I'm teacher's pet" card. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:47, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

I don't want Essay template pollution on my essays. I have created essays with tens of thousands of views. Another editors's last essay has received about 25 page views

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Andy, you told me in the past that you are dead set against "template pollution". Templates are ugly and a barrier to readers.

I have created essays with tens of thousands of views. And various people have told me that my political/worldview essays were informative.

And some of my humor essays people have enjoyed as well and have been very popular.

RobSmith just put some "template pollution" on an essay of mine that already has received over 1,000 page views.

RobSmith's last essay entitled Essay: Do you strongly believe in gun rights? Don't move to Russia or any NATO country! has merely received about 25 page views and was of low quality (At least in my estimation and the people who have not shared it with their friends/family).

I have invited RobSmith to write counter-essays in order to try to rebut my essays, but he can't do it because he doesn't have the evidence or good arguments. So instead, he is using the illegitimate way of handling his disagreements with my essays and using a "template pollution" strategy.

Also, already the essay I created which RobS put "template pollution" on is ranking #2 at Google for searches related to this topic.

I will contact you about this matter later today. Conservative (talk) 17:38, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

he can't do it because he doesn't have the evidence
Maybe I don't have the time to waste responding to trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:45, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, you take weak positions and you can't debate your way out of a wet paper bag. That is why you censor or try to harm other people's work. It's really pathetic. Man up and create counter-arguments or admit you are wrong and can't defend your weak positions. Conservative (talk) 17:50, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
{ec) We have a pattern here. User:Conservative latches onto a living person he meets up with on social media and incessantly trolls them, using hours and hours of time, in Essay space over sometimes ridiculous stuff, like eating French Fries.
See for example [18] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:54, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
See also: Essay: Someone on the internet disagrees with me. It is driving me mad!. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:25, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
This one may also be helpful to you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:03, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
Maybe I don't debate because of your bad faith habit of deleting talk pages and other users' postings. It's just a waste of time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:54, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
If you want to use Nazi apologists in your latest magnum opus, Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian‎‎, go ahead. It's not the first time I warned you, "Watch out! You are stepping in doggie doo-doo!", and was ignored. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:00, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I don't care if you debate. Just create counter-arguments at Conservapedia and let people judge for themselves. But your weak positions are so lame that you can't do it. And it really burns you up so you spitefully put template pollution on my material that you can't refute.
It takes zero brains and talent to use "template pollution". And you compound matters by using childish language like "doo-doo". Grow up. Conservative (talk) 18:01, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Let's look at one of our last phone conversations (as you were scarfing down junk food at 7-11). You wanted to discuss the difference between US & UK libel laws; I wanted to discuss the review of Dawsiha's book on Putin; you evidently had no knowledge of the differences between US & UK libel laws, and after wasting 10 minutes trying to discuss those differences, you said "I don't think you're going to change my mind about Putin", when in fact we never discussed Putin, but rather your pet subject (of which you had no knowledge of), UK libel laws.
It's ridiculous, and hopeless, trying to have a level-headed discussion with you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:17, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, I encourage you to create an essay titled Essay: Vladimir Putin is an honest politician and not an authoritarian. And in the preface of the essay, you can link to my essay which you put "template pollution" on. Namely my essay Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian.

I created the essay Do you strongly believe in gun rights? Don't move to Russia! and in response you wrote the essay Essay: Do you strongly believe in gun rights? Don't move to Russia or any NATO country! which linked to my essay and your essay merely received about 25 page views. I thought your essay was an exceedingly weak essay. I very much doubt that your essay will be named the Conservapedia essay of the year in 2023. Conservative (talk) 18:21, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Here's what you don't understand: somehow you believe my criticisms of NATO & Zelensky means I have an emotional attachment to Putin & Russia. It doesn't. I'm just an observer of the crimes NATO has committed against Libya, Ukraine, and now Niger.
And I keep warning you about crawling in bed with globalists and Nazis (which you only do cause you think it tweeks me), but you ignore those warnings. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:27, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
And the bottomline is, your efforts to tweek me only provides justifications for globalists and Ukrainian Nazis. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:27, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Why does he do It? Cause he believes it? Cause he has a deep understanding of the facts and issues at play in the world today? No. To refute my efforts to educate the conservative movement on what's really happening that the MSM censors - because somehow, he has personal animosity against me - probably cause I exposed him in April of 2022 of not having any understanding of the issues in play.

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So he's spent well over 300 hours now on this personal jihad cause he can't get away with using Deletion to remove stupid comments from discussions he probably should never have been involved in, in the first place. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:59, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I am not pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine. America first! USA! USA! USA! Conservative (talk) 19:00, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
And I wrote a rebuttal to your mischaracterization/misrepresentation of my above quote at: Was April 2022 a pivotal point in geopolitics that will affect geopolitics for 30 years or was it a failed prediction concerning the war in Ukraine?. Conservative (talk) 19:03, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) You oppose Operation Denazification and support globalists. Period. That's what your Essays say. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:05, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
57% of Iowa Republicans oppose Nazism (probably more, but that wasn't the question); not you, you've gone out of your way to provide justification for support of Ukrainian Nazism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:08, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I know what I believe better than you RobSmith. It's time to create some counter-essays. I could carve out of a banana an opposition that is stronger than you RobSmith. It's time to stop relying on your lame, milquetoast "template pollution" and develop a backbone demonstrated through compelling counter-essays. Conservative (talk) 19:10, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I'm not interested in your trolling for this reason: I know your Essays are directed at me, not Putin. And you have destroyed any credibility in arguments by incessant Deletions of talk pages and Debates (as mentioned above, our last phone conversation was you calling to ask me if I had objections to you Deleting your comment "the Roman Catholic Church is a corrupt joke". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:16, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
“ I stand by my post that the Catholic Church is a corrupt joke.PNG ”
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The Catholic Church has had a lot of problems/press related to priests committing pedophilia and they still haven't adequately rooted out the problem. Expecting the Catholic Church to repent isn't a radical idea. Conservative (talk) 19:24, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Then, as a masterdebater, everytime you get your cahoonies in a vice, you pull out your one Ace up your sleeve, "I'm teacher's pet." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:26, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

As I noted above, the Catholic Church has had a lot of problems/press related to priests committing pedophilia and they still haven't adequately rooted out the problem. Expecting the Catholic Church to repent isn't a radical idea.

And I had something to add which I am including below.

You are trying to derail this thread with something irrelevant that occurred in a spirited debate thread. I know and you know why you are trying to do this. You are losing and not making a good case for your "template pollution".

And I know for a fact that the owner of the website very much dislikes "template pollution". Conservative (talk) 19:29, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

I doubt if the owner is sympathetic with your Nazi apologetics, but we'll see. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:34, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Let's look at one of your "experts" you caught by fly casting research to refute me

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According to a December 5, 2005 email released by Wikileaks from Peter Olinger, Chief of Emergency and Anti-Terrorism Operations for Lockheed Martin Space Systems to Stratfor, Peter Zeihan is "anti-Conservative". [20] Olinger writes:

“ what's so special about him to bump him up to the top tier of credited authorship? I scoured the everthing for a biography of Mr. Zeihan and came up pretty short. He's an "Energy Analyst" and supposedly a Russian and Central Asian affairs analyst, but never lived there...He sounds like one of the liberal press writers of today that write for so many publications on the market. ”

Zeihan has been referred to as a "huckster" [21] and "buffoon" whose "whole sthick is USA preeminence and how our 'advantages' will lead to our continued domination of the world. These advantages are Hispanic slave labor, ocean moats, and raw resources." [22] He has been criticized for his "bad predictions with bad premises." [23] Most of his speeches on YouTube are at upscale investor conferences and to sell books. [24] Zeihan has been predicting China’s meltdown since 2005. He repeats the call for China meltdown and possible breakup or breakdown multiple times. In 2010, he said it would happen within 3-5 years. [25]

RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:58, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
After I added Zeihan to the Globalism Template as one of the chief personalities pushing globalism today, User:Conservative had to do a quick clean up of his Essays, but Zeihan is still cited as an expert in no less than four of Cons Essays, of which I think he spammed links to in this discussion thread. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:13, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
Once again, if User:Cons talk page was open to dialogue, he could have been warned to avoid stepping in doggie doo like this. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:35, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
And you can't alert him on a Mainspace or Essay space talk page either, cause he'll just Delete the discussion there, as well. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:48, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

final key points about this matter

Key point: A quick note and a solution to the RobS hassling me problem. I say this because User: DavidB4 said about RobSmith's recent interactions with me the following: "Anyway, I can't see either Conservative or Rob getting demoted. But maybe like Karajou, Conservative will get bullied out too. Then Rob is the last one standing. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:03, July 9, 2023 (EDT)"[26] So RobS has been acting like a bully. Bulling should not be rewarded at a wiki because it is poisonous and kills a sense of community.

Key point: This week, a Conservapedia editor confidentially told me that he stopped editing Conservapedia in the past because of RobSmith's abusive behavior towards him.

Here are my 5 other main points:

1. I am pro-America and America first. I am not pro-Ukraine or pro-Russia. I take the position that the USA should stop sending money to Ukraine. Regardless, I am not going to comment on the war in Ukraine further on the website or about Russia or Ukraine.

2. I finished my essay relating Putin and put a lot of work into it in terms of research. So I will not be adding to it. So that should simmer things down. And you're not giving me counter-evidence to the content I put on that page.

3. I will avoid future interaction with RobS. He doesn't make any sense and does not put forth good-faith arguments. He is a dishonest and unreasonable person. We both know he is a difficult person. And User: DavidB4 knows RobSmith is a difficult person. In the past, you desysoped RobSmith for being a contentious person.

4. I do know how to drive a lot of traffic to websites. The search engines and website users don't like templates. The search engines have publicly stated that don't like websites with a lot of templates on them.

5. I put a lot of work into the website. And I have been right many times on what creates traffic and what kills traffic. I just ask that my work doesn't have template pollution on it.

Deleting a well-supported essay that I spent time on is a slap in the face. I don't delete material you write on the website that I disagree with and you should not do the same with me. There is a lot of data supporting what I wrote. If you decide that an ugly template is put on the essay, I am out. It's an essay. Essays are written by an author and not many editors at the wiki like a wiki article. Having an ugly template is senseless and is traffic-killing. There is a not a single essay on this website with a template on it that is ranking well with the major search engines.

I do think that I do have a following. Much bigger than RobSmith has. His content doesn't get nearly as much traffic as evidenced by his recent poorly essay about gun rights which merely received about 25 page views. As Aristotle said, "Excellence is a habit". If RobS cared about excellence, he wouldn't have written that poorly done and poorly trafficked essay that merely received about 25 page views. Conservative (talk) 20:26, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) The anti-Putin essay begins with a quote from Alexander Motyl (which he added today). Without even getting into a discussion of the Eurasia Group and other personalities cited, Motyl's Reminiscences here goes into partial detail about how he and NeverTrumper Ian Bremmer secured funding from George Soros for a project at Columbia Univrsity. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:31, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative does not do research; he does fly casting on Google for material he thinks will discredit his imaginary opponents he latches onto through social media. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:41, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I do not do research, RobSmith? My article on homosexuality has over 200 footnotes. And unlike you, I don't make claims that my footnotes do not support because that would be dishonest.
Another relevant point: The USA has had alliances with unsavory people. In WWII, FDR and the tyrant Joseph Stalin worked together to defeat the Nazis. Trump's position that Putin may be a killer and the USA has not been so innocent in the past was a true statement (Trump on Putin: "we've got a lot of killers. You think our country's so innocent?"). Unlike RobS, Trump isn't a Putin cheerleader. If the USA chooses to stop funding the corrupt country of Ukraine which will probably not achieve its objectives in this war, I have no problem with that. Conservative (talk) 20:55, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
That's where you are wrong (again), I'm not a Putin cheerleader. And I don't use Soros-funded junk on CP, either.
And I didn't "write an essay" with 25 views, I filled in a Redirect you created that was totally bogus. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:03, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Papa Bush, Bill Clinton, Baby Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Joe Biden as well as Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, King David, King Solomon, and Moses were all killers (and a few more world leaders). Your appeal to emotion is pitiful, and shows how little you understand about the real world and how it works. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:15, August 20, 2023 (EDT)
So what's your boast? That you have more followers you feed Nazi, globalist, and Soros-funded propaganda? Wow. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:07, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
And you evidently are proud of it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:08, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Genetic fallacy, RobS. And recently you encouraged Conservapedia readers on main page right to read a Washington Post article and a Financial Times article.

RobSmith, you recently posted this on main page right: "WaPo: The sense of despair is driven by massive casualties in Kiev’s counteroffensive...Most soldiers sent to the front die in just two to three days' [27][28] Ukrainian men pay $4000 to be smuggled out of the country to avoid the draft and sent on suicide attacks by Zelensky. [29][30] Financial Times: Press gang bosses accept bribes up to $10,000 from draft dodgers. [31]"

So why is it ok for you to sometimes cite an MSM source, but it's not ok for me to do so. Hypocrisy to the nth degree! A classic case of "Rules for thee, but not for me!" Conservative (talk) 21:13, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Well, duh. If you can't detect that the MSM brainwashing you've been subjected to for the past 18 months (and longer) is beginning to flip, I don't know what to tell you (actually I do, but there's not the space here to go into it, and you don't like discussions on your user talk page, either). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:17, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, I don't mind discussions on my user talk page. I have had several cordial discussions on my user page with other editors.
What I do mind is someone who I disagreed with over the phone and told them that we are going to have to agree to disagree on a matter and I don't want to discuss a matter further, obsessively post something on my user page after the phone call ended. That is obnoxious, bullying behavior and of course I will not put up with it.
RobS, write this down and put it on your wall: You can't make someone agree with you. I could care less if you agree with me on various points. Unlike you, I don't crave others agreement or approval!
And Andy agreed with me about your bad and unreasonable behavior on my user talk page. Conservative (talk) 21:43, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Why then did you post this? I thought users were free to post or delete whatever they like on their user talk pages?
I'll answer this question: that post is harassment and trolling of both me and Andy. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:08, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Your habit of deleting discussions on your user talk discourages editors from even attempting to resolve misunderstandings. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:03, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Bottomline: Things significantly escalated when you decided to obsess about me on your user page and in a way that I know is misleading. If you want to completely de-escalate on your user page, then I will reciprocate in terms of what my user page covers in terms of Russia/Putin, the current war in Ukraine and related matters. But not before then. If you're going to mischaracterize a quote of mine and provide no context, then I will offer a response to it. That's only fair and reasonable. Conservative (talk) 22:20, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, now you wanna change the Castle Rule, huh? You're just trolling, again. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:21, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
I am not going to wrangle with a childish and contentious person. Best of luck to you on your user page. I think it makes you look like an obsessed and deranged person that is very obsessed with me. I laugh at it.
For Andy's sake, however, I thought I would offer an olive branch. But you can't make peace with crazy. Wise King Solomon said, “the hearts of men are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead” (Ecclesiastes 9:3). Ultimately, people have free will. Conservative (talk) 22:30, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Yah, read what Solomon said about talebearers sometime, too. If you opened you user space for discussion, maybe you wouldn't have the reputation of a talebearer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:51, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Why would I open my user talk page to crazy malevolence? Thanks, but no thanks. Conservative (talk) 23:02, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Okay, let the misunderstandings, misperceptions, and misconceptions pile up, and run here as a talebearer and teachers pet everytime you have to eat your own words. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:13, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
How many hours, over how many weeks, have we spent on this when someone quotes your own words back to you? Then you refuse discussion on your talk page, and run here to Andy and say, "Mom, he's being mean to me." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:19, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
Internet Spam can refer to repetitious posting of the same points over and over again, as if maybe the 2nd, 3rd, or umpteenth time it is repeated it may finally make sense and stick.

There is no misunderstanding RobSmith.

RobSmith you wrote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"[32]

I understand that you are an admirer of Machiavelli who preached manipulativeness, callousness and indifference to morality. That is why you were desysoped before by Andy. And that is why your last essay merely saw about 25 page views. People don't take you seriously and that includes me. Conservative (talk) 23:24, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Asked and answered. You're trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:25, August 14, 2023 (EDT)


Thanks to your trolling, I missed informing our readers that Trump got indicted FIVE HOURS AGO. This has gotten ridiculous, you getting your feelings hurt cause someone quoted your own words back to you from a discussion that you probably should never have been involved with in the first place. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:08, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, I have worked in fields that require people having a thick skin. My feelings certainly weren't hurt.
But you are right about one thing. Having a discussion with you was a waste of time and my time could have been better spent given your Machiavellian duplicitousness.
And nobody is asking other people what they were doing on April 9, 2022 when Boris Johnson easily scuttled a tentative peace deal that was more fragile than most vases because Russia had such a bad relationship with Ukraine. When Russia let the horse out of the barn with its special invasion things began moving in a much more negative way. The momentum wasn't going to be stopped - especially since the Democrats/Biden hate Putin/Russia so much.
Hey, if Boris Johnson walked up to you and said, "Hey, I'll give you $100,000,000,000 if you don't make the deal with Putin," I'm sure you'd take the cash. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:49, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
Your man Putin really screwed up big time when he launched his special invasion because it made Russia's serious demographic winter even more frigid. Tons of Russians have fled the country and Russia experienced a brain drain too as a part of this fleeing of men out of Russia. And on top of these problems, tens of thousands of Russian soldiers have died. That is one of the many reasons why I am not bullish on Russia in terms of its future (See: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future). Conservative (talk) 00:30, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
When you have something new to say other than recycled spam, let me know. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:46, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, do you know what you were doing on April 9, 2022? I very much doubt that you do given the insignificance of the date. I know I have no idea what I did on April 9, 2022 - like most people!!! Conservative (talk) 00:47, August 15, 2023 (EDT)
And here, I'm going to play the same silly game you play with the same repetitious cut n paste spam, so my comment appears at the end and obscures your comment:
Thanks to your trolling, I missed informing our readers that Trump got indicted FIVE HOURS AGO. This has gotten ridiculous, you getting your feelings hurt cause someone quoted your own words back to you from a discussion that you probably should never have been involved with in the first place.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:51, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, if spam by definition is repeating something over and over, then much of your comments in this thread are spam. Your incessant spamming of the alleged importance of April 9, 2022 is spam. Your incessant spam of my position in a debate that the Catholic Church needs to repent concerning its pedophilia and homosexual priests problem is not only spam, but it's an intentional attempt to derail this thread topic.

And your unproductive obsession with me is unhealthy. I suggest you accept the fact that some people on the internet are not going to agree with you on everything. If you accepted this fact of life, then you wouldn't be driving yourself into a tizzy over and over again. Conservative (talk) 06:57, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

My Machiavellian machinations motivate me to make the same moves to play the same silly game you play with the same repetitious cut n paste spam, so my comment appears at the end and obscures your comment:
Thanks to your trolling, I missed informing our readers that Trump got indicted FIVE HOURS AGO. This has gotten ridiculous, you getting your feelings hurt cause someone quoted your own words back to you from a discussion that you probably should never have been involved with in the first place.

More trolling about taking a sabbatical which never happened

Beating a dead horse

Before I embark on my work/project related sabbatical, I thought I would better elaborate my position that April 2022 was not a pivotal month in terms of the war in Ukraine. At the time RobSmith got angry with my position, I didn't have much time to elaborate my position due to various off wiki matters. Perhaps, RobSmith will see better why I take this position. Perhaps, he won't. Let the chips fall where they may.

By the way, an irony of this matter is that my interest in politics is significantly less and my interest in faith, family, friends and work have grown. Sadly, the world is filled with incompetent and narcissistic politicians and my interest in following this soap opera has waned. Post WWII prosperity caused baby boomer politicians USA/West to have big egos and be less moral. And 70 years of Soviet communism had a bad effect on Russian society (See: Soviet Union and morality). That is one of the reasons why I have zero interest in having a conflict with RobSmith over politics. Conservative (talk) 00:36, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Who says I got angry? I've tried to warn you dozens of times about stepping in doggie doo-doo, and all you do is write nonsensical essays and Delete comments by others trying to help. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:41, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Maybe your past screaming over the phone leads me to believe that you have an anger management problem. Anyways, I have bigger fish to fry than be entangled in a protracted and pointless online feud/soap opera. This is especially true since it is centered around two corrupt/authoritarian countries (Ukraine/Russia) which will likely experience declining influence in the world due to their coming demographic winters and their declining economic fortunes. Conservative (talk) 00:49, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Business Insider, August 16, 2023: Russia got richer even as the war in Ukraine raged on last year, while the West shed trillions of dollars of wealth.
Bzzzt. Wrong again. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:31, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter. - Pr 11:13
If you weren't so stubborn, maybe people wouldn't treat you so rudely. And whoever taught you that "conservativism" meant being stubborn, was wrong. Conservativism is living and active, and sharper than a two-edged sword. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:56, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
Alert! Doggie doo dead ahead! All this nonsense you just added is going to make you look pretty foolish when the consensus view of historians after the war is added to Conservapedia proven right. But, who cares, that's in the future, huh? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:12, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
That will leave future researchers wondering, (1) 'Why did User:Cons take such an absurd position?', and (2) 'Why was he so obsessed about defending it for the next 18 months?'
The first question is easy to answer, He gave a snarky answer on a subject he understood little about; the second question future researchers will be debating about the state of your mental health, whereas you could have simply said, "I was wrong'. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:18, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
I challenge this statement:
RobS made his statement on April 17, 2022 which was AFTER the tentative peace deal was scuttled. So RobS did not have some profound insight at this time.
The Istanbul peace talks had resolved the issues of borders; Zelensky had agreed to give up Crimea, the Russians would withdraw troops from Ukraine, the Minsk Accords granting autonomy to the Donbas republics would be implemented, Ukraine would declare its neutrality and not join NATO. So far had the peace talks progressed, the line items Putin is holding up are arms limitations, how many tanks, aircraft, rocket launchers, etc Ukraine agreed to limit itself to. Source: Prof. Ivan Katchanovski
I don't know how "profound" it was, but anyone following the war at that time, and seeing that a week after BoJo's visit, the peace talks were scuttled, and NATO ramped up the war, could understand NATO was betting the farm on its future. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:31, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
I made my forecast HERE about the war in Ukraine. And RobS made his forecast about the war in Ukraine HERE.
The Russian ruble is not doing too well right now and Russia faces some headwinds in terms of future of the ruble. The Chinese economy is experiencing significant problems too. So a portion of my forecasts is already coming true. Conservative (talk) 01:35, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
The Conservative Treehouse, August 17, 2023: Stunningly Low Prices – A Visit to an Average Russian Supermarket. Excerpted:
100 rubles equals $1.00. 350 rubles is $3.50. Additionally for weighted products 1kg equals 2.2 lbs. So generally speaking, if something is 100 rubles/kg it is $1 for two pounds.

Example from the video:

•Lean ground beef at 329 rubles/kg is less than $1.65/lb.

•Bacon at 250 rubles/kg is less than $1.25/lb.

•20 eggs are 139 rubles or $1.39.

•Boneless skinless chicken breast $4 for 4lbs.

•Typical Bagged salad mixes .79¢ each. etc.

If my forecast about Russia/Ukraine/West/USA in my polical essays turn out to be right or largely right, I have decided that may choose to say these 4 words: I told you so! :) I will keep my commentary brief, however, lest it drag into some pointless online feud/soap opera. :) Conservative (talk) 01:45, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
I am in the midst of reading the book Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkemanwhich which I picked up at the library today. The author warns about wasting your time in pointless online feuds about politics. Excellent advice! Conservative (talk) 01:49, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
(ec x2) Don't even start trolling with off-topic subjects like the ruble.
Explain how AFTER BoJo's visit, AFTER the Russians withdrew from Kiev as a gesture of good faith, AFTER the peace talks were scuttled by a third party, AFTER NATO ramped up the war, that is (a) a "profound" insight that (b) any observer could see but you? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:52, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

I did explain and I just expanded my explanation via 8 separate points (See: Essay: Was April 2022 a pivotal point in geopolitics that will affect geopolitics for 30 years or was it a failed prediction concerning the war in Ukraine? ).

If a conductor briefly manages to slow a runaway train by turning on some breaks which likely cannot slow the train long and will soon give/burn out, the breaks are not a very good solution. The underlying causes of the train being a runaway train have to be solved. As long as there is plenty of fuel and a mighty train engine that is engaged, the towns on the train's route should prepare for a runaway train problem.

That super fragile and tentative peace deal was a break that quickly burned out. Putin should have never launched his special operation. That was like turning on a train's engine, making the conductor get off the train and then watch to see what happens!

And right now, the war in Ukraine is a runaway train. Mearsheimer agrees with me about the likely length of war and believes the war in Ukraine will go on for some time. Conservative (talk) 02:07, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

No you didn't. You're spewing nonsense and trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:13, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
And Profs. Katchanovski and Mearsheimer are not nazisymps, despite your best efforts to make them appear to be. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:40, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Let's return to the basic premise and its nonsensical conclusion. I challenge this statement:

RobS made his statement on April 17, 2022 which was AFTER the tentative peace deal was scuttled. So RobS did not have some profound insight at this time.

Would RobS have "profound insight" if he had made the statement BEFORE the peace deal was scuttled? Impossible. Cause that would require making a prediction on the outcome of the negotiations, which is not what RobS is doing at all. The negotiations could have been successful, and everybody live happily ever after. But RobS is speaking on the consequences of failure AFTER the peace deal was scuttled. The conclusion that RobS could not have some profound insight AFTER the deal was scuttled is illogical.

User:Cons "logic" is based on him not being programmed by the mainstream media on the consequences of failure at the time, and nothing more. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:50, August 18, 2023 (EDT

This nonsense added here violates Fischer's 7 habits of sound historiography:

(2) Historical evidence must be an answer to the question asked and not to any other question.

Your entire Essay looks like Fani Willis' Georgia indictment of Trump, using the same "logic". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:11, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

I have decided to reserve the right to comment on Russian related matters in the future. RobSmith's alternative reality on the Russian ruble which has recently fallen prompted this matter.
The Russian ruble hit a 16-month low this week and is one of the worst performing currencies in 2023., Business Insider, August 18, 2023
Russia Cranks Interest Rates to 12% in Emergency Move Supporting Ruble, Barron's, August 19, 2023 Conservative (talk) 00:56, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Big deal. Here is precisely where Western economists were so wrong about the Russian economy: Western GDP estimates are based upon exchange rates with the dollar. Russia does not need foreign currency. The Russian economy is virtually (and possibly unique as the only country) self-contained and self-sufficient. They don't need anything from the rest of the world. So they don't really care, nor need to be concerned, how it performs against foreign currencies. The only people it affects are Westerners who want to travel to Russia illegally, in violation of sanctions.
But ramble on in your lame defense of taking absurd positions, and ignore anyone who tries to help you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:06, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
And you are off point once again. Explain your illogical conclusion in this statement (I have the right to demand an answer, given that you use my name specifically):
RobS made his statement on April 17, 2022 which was AFTER the tentative peace deal was scuttled. So RobS did not have some profound insight at this time.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:09, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Russia’s War-Torn Economy Hits Its Speed Limit: Economists see this week’s currency gyrations not as the beginning of a financial crisis but rather as a symptom of the Kremlin’s sclerotic economic prospects, Wall Street Journal, August 2023
"On Tuesday, it said in a statement that Russia’s worsening trade balance was caused by a decrease in export volumes as well as the decline in prices mainly for energy exports."[33] "China's imports from Russia dropped in July, the first monthly decline since February 2021.[34] Thanks to Putin's decision to launch his special operation in February 2022, Russian oil sales have too many eggs in the China customer basket. Conservative (talk) 01:27, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
You are trolling with extraneous nonsense, because you cannot answer your illogical criticism of another editor. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:38, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
If I were Andy, listening to your trolling bs, I'd probably just give up on the Conservapedia project and quit paying the server bills. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:41, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you are not Andy. Andy Schlafly is far more conservative than you. For example, conservatives are far more tolerant of dissenting views. To his credit, Andy wrote this essay: Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness.

Bottomline: This wiki isn't RobSmithPedia. And trolling isn't merely opinions you disagree with. Conservative (talk) 12:41, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Bottomline, I think you are trying to convince Andy once and for all to pull the plug with your ridiculousness and refusal to get along with others. Cause that's all you contribute these days. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:47, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
In your egocentric and Machiavellian world, disagreeing with you is not "getting along with others". RobSmith, please come back to the world of reality. Conservative (talk) 12:50, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
You don't even know who or what you disagree with. You latch on to a living person you met on the internet who somehow hurt your feelings and think by making yourself a pain in butt you somehow "win". Ole Ole Ole. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:57, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
And cause they are quick to identify and block your trolling at Rationalwiki now, you've turned to trolling living Conservapedia editors, speaking on things you don't understand. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Go troll PZ Myers, Penn & Gilette, Ace McWicked or User:Spud some more, and leave me alone. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:04, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
This whole thread, "Quick note", isn't a quick note at all. It's you trolling Andy's talk page. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:10, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, while the dead atheist movement was alive I wrote articles on prominent atheists within that movement. But it is now that this movement is dead, I write far less content on atheism.
Also, you are engaging in projection. You are obsessed with me on your user page, which you certainly have a right to do, but I do think it is unhealthy that you are so obsessed with me. On the other hand, my user page makes passing mention of a dispute you have with me about the significance of the date of April 9, 2022 (Which is a date I and most people don't know what they were doing on that date given its relative insignificance).
I do find it humorous that you are so obsessed with me though. Please expand your commentary on me on your user page as it will make you look even more unhinged. Conservative (talk) 13:19, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, so that's why you don't troll PZ Myers or Penn & Gilette anymore. Okay. Look, there are plenty of LGBT sites and forums you could find to latch onto and troll a living person. Why don't you do that? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:25, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
And I'm glad you admit you "find it humorous" your trolling activity. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:27, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, I extended to you an olive branch about our current dispute about Russia, but you rejected it. So I find your petulant whining about a few of my dissenting views from your views about Russia rather tiresome. But at the same time, it is entertaining given the poor rebuttals you have given so far.

My web content about Russia is a very small fraction of the content I have written at this wiki. I suggest that you behave more maturely about others disagreeing with you on the internet. Conservative (talk) 13:36, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, thanks. Now please stop inhibiting me from making productive edits to mainspoace.
Your trolling, over the past 3 days alone, have occupied at least 50% of my time at this crucial juncture in the war, when 55% of Americans oppose giving any more money to support the war and, if successful, will save thousands of lives. But I know you really don't care about that. Ole Ole Ole. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:41, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
I am against the USA funding the war in Ukraine. And I suggest that you get over your obsession with me if it is getting in the way of you creating useful content at this wiki. And that is 100% within your control. So stop whining. Conservative (talk) 13:48, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Bull. Go back and revise you Mainspace additions to Dark Triad personality traits and few other Mainpace pages which were maliciously added to attack me (and not for any general educational purposes), as well as your Essays and User space, and then we'll talk about "obsessions" and "olive branches". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:00, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Ole Ole Ole. I declare victory. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:09, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Here's one for Rob's Hall of Fame: "You can't debate stupid, but with me you've met your match." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:17, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Unlike a person with Machiavellian traits at this wiki (which is one of the Dark Triad personality traits. As noted above, you have expressed admiration for Machiavelli's work Discourses), I have never longed to be promoted to a wiki Bureaucrat at this wiki. And I was pleased that I was made a wiki Admin/Sysop so quickly. And unlike you, I was never de-sysoped at this wiki for engaging in bullying behavior (Aggressiveness and domineering behavior are Dark Triad personality traits). Conservative (talk) 14:18, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
"Bullying" is not you not being able to go toe-to-toe with me in debate; bullying is you Deleting other users comments and whole discussion for 16 years, and disrupting conversations and efforts to build cooperation between editors; bullying is the activity of a certain ex-Admin, who's name began with K, who would not allow anyone to do anything for 16 years, while I have advocated for good faith cooperation and collaborative editing between editors for 16 years. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:26, August 20, 2023 (EDT)
Machiavelli was a critic of sex perverts in positions of power:
“ It makes him hated above all things, as I have said, to be rapacious, and to be a violator of the property and women of his subjects, from both of which he must abstain. [35] ”
So, can we extrapolate from User:Conservative's repeated criticism of Machiavelli that User:Conservative is a supporter, or justifies the conduct of, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:15, August 20, 2023 (EDT)


"Admiration"? Read the quote again. And you do not impress me as having any familiarity, at all, with the writings of Machiavelli anyway (as you are not familiar with Huntington, Solzhenitsyn, Aristotle, or Socrates, who you misuse and misquote in Conservapedia, as well). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:30, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Who's your source for the Dark Triad personality traits article which you created 3 weeks ago for the sole purpose of attacking me? Oh, the secular humanist rag Psychology Today. I wonder what they say about Christians? about LGBT? So this is how Conservapedia has "evolved", not as an educational resource, but as platform for User:Conservative to maliciously attack, with pseudoscientific junk, his imaginary personal enemies he's obsessed with. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:44, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Psychology Today was one of 18 sources to my Dark Triad personality traits article. But I would be happy to replace the source as it's an easily replaceable source and not in disagreement with psychiatric, psychology or medical journals about the 3 major components of the Dark Triad Personality traits. Conservative (talk) 14:56, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

Ever since Andy told you to knock off your personal attacks on Rationalwiki User:Spud's French Fry eating (which occupied you for 6 weeks), you've been focused on me. Shortly thereafter, you moved over from your obsession with User:Spud and carbohydrates to RobS and Machiavelli. None of this can be considered productive editing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:01, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Thanks for the feedback. In the Dark Triad personality traits article, I replaced the Psychology Today source with a peer-reviewed journal citation which I found via PubMed. At the time, I used Psychology Today because I couldn't find anything errant in the article and it broadly discussed the Dark Triad personality traits.
I created a few essays as a counterbalance to your Russia cheerleading. And it's very obvious that when you engage in Russian cheerleading it's not based on reality. If it was based on reality, you would move to Russia and not live in the USA. Conservative (talk) 15:14, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
More fly casting. Good catch. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:27, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
I have never engaged in "Russia cheerleading". I provide what the MSM isn't reporting, as MPR declares.
If you wanna call it Russia cheerleading, fine. Beware however, the victors write the history, and your Nazi cheerleading will not be whitewashed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:26, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Honestly, as I recall those events, on one hand I was glad to see you focused on something else for those six weeks, but I feared if I spoke up to Andy about it - your abuse of CP Essay space to trigger Ratvandals - you'd focus your obsessions and wrath on me. I was right. But I don't regret complaining about it to Andy, for the reputation and integrity of CP. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:19, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Ole Ole Ole. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:19, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
I did find the topic of ultra-processed foods and their health risks interesting and relevant to today and so I have written about it. Yesterday, I was doing some shopping and the department store was filled with overweight/obese people and I thought about the content I created at Conservapedia on ultra-processed food and on obesity. A few weeks ago my pastor briefly mentioned the sin of gluttony in his sermon. And Andy just edited Conservapedia's obesity article. Obesity and chronic health conditions related to ultra-processed food are growing problems in the world that weigh down many people. Conservative (talk) 15:29, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Good. You managed to drop your obsession with attacking User:Spud. Now just do the same with me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:34, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

As I noted above, I merely have a passing mention of you on my user page whereas you are obsessed with me on your user page.

And disagreeing with you on various subjects such as Russia is not an attack on you. RobSmith, if the world revolves around you, then why do you keep bumping into things? Conservative (talk) 15:38, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

You are not doing our readers any service. I am covering several stories in addition to Ukraine, Trump, Maui, etc. I am trying to pursue a story now that says due to a covid variant in Canada, the govt is already preparing mask mandates & lockdowns for mid-September, but you are keeping me from that. I've wasted half that day so far with your trolling nonsense - 4 hours.
Man up. The world does not revolve around you cause you got your feelings hurt. Suck it up. You stuck your nose in on a discussion you knew nothing about and made a stupid comment. We've all done that. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered - Ps 32:1. Forgive and forget. Move on. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
RobS, you wrote: "I am trying...". Stop merely trying and just do it. You have a severe case of "excuse-itus". Focus!
When I set out to help Christendom curtail the duration of the atheist movement, I certainly didn't lose my focus and now that movement is as dead as doornail. And it will never arise again.
Real men, men with machismo, don't whine, bellyache or make excuses. They focus. Olé! Olé! Olé! Conservative (talk) 16:20, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
Man up. The world does not revolve around you cause you got your feelings hurt. Suck it up. You stuck your nose in on a discussion you knew nothing about and made a stupid comment. We've all done that. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered - Ps 32:1. Forgive and forget. Move on. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

More trolling

Andy, you requested that RobSmith no longer post on my user talk page. Please remind him of your wishes concerning the matter. He just posted some nonsense on my user talk page which I removed.

"We respect users' control over their own talk pages as much as possible. Wikipedia treats users' own talk pages like government or public property, and it becomes a place for Wikipedia editors to bully users." - Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia.

In the past, RobSmith was de-sysoped for his attempted bulling on my user page along with other issues. Conservative (talk) 12:36, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

User:Cons attacks Machiavelli who condemns sex perverts in power and defends the "incompetent pedophile" John Maynard Keynes (in his own words) who's going to make America great again, or something. User:Cones trolling on this page, talk pages, and abuse of Essay space has gone on long enough. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:41, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
More trolling: it turns out User:Conservative agrees with, or admires, the immoral Machiavellian realist Prof. John Joseph Mearsheimer, which he's spammed all over CP in his obsession to refute me. [36] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:08, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

So, User:Conservative not only is a defender of the deficit spending policies of the incompetent pedophile John Maynard Keynes, but it was also exactly one year ago today he identified as a duplicitous and immoral Machiavellian realist (like Henry Kissinger): I am a realist.PNG RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:42, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

I don't know how many Doggie doo alerts I've given out to him, but he's simply in way over his head. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:49, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Duplicity? Removing the title Foreign Affairs but leaving the globalist rag citation there is intellectually dishonest to our readers and blatant propaganda, RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:55, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

And the jingoism he uses to promote senseless wars and killing is rather, for want of a better word, sickening while still cited to a globalist rag. User:Conservative#USA.21_USA.21_USA.21 RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:58, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

The tragedy of all this childishness is, he doesn't believe any of the garbage he posts, let alone understand any of it. He spends hours, days weeks, months, and years doing it, not cause it refutes any of my content, but cause he maliciously thinks it will hurt me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:06, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
I'm not one for betraying confidence, but he told me he was mocked as a child for being religious, so he's spent about a 50 year long career fighting atheism (homosexuality and evolution are just spinoffs of that crusade). having defeated atheism on the internet, he turned to Rationalwiki users carbohydrate intake and obesity. Having been banned from Rationalwiki now, he's turned to me calling him out for not having any interest or understanding of geopolitics and international relations, and sticking his trolling nose in on conversations where it doesn't belong. I knew the risk I was taking when I did it. I'm ready to buy him a pair of deep-water fishing boots for all the dog crap he steps into day-after-day trying to attack or refute me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:13, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

PubMed has over 250 citations on the Dark Triad personality traits and narcissism

PubMed has over 250 citations on the Dark Triad personality traits and narcissism.[37]

I am going to restore my edits to the Narcissism article.

I did attempt to amicably resolve this matter on the talk page of the Narcissm article, but received no response.

If I am reverted, I will have a private discussion with you about this matter. Conservative (talk) 11:36, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

Isn't boasting about defeating internet atheism narcissistic personality disorder and trolling? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:42, August 23, 2023 (EDT)
We have numerous examples of Conservapedia:Malicious editing. Where do I begin? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:51, August 23, 2023 (EDT)
The article is about Narcissism. Please focus on the article and not any petty disputes you have with someone. People do not care about your petty disputes.
In addition, I asked for a citation from you about me claiming to have defeated internet atheism, but I received no evidence from you. I assumed your memory failed you or that you made this claim up about me. So I moved on. Conservative (talk) 11:53, August 23, 2023 (EDT)
Stop your trolling and learn to get along with others. And quit crying to mommie everytime you get your ego hurt. It's very narcissitic. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:58, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

Please ask someone to end his juvenile behavior of vandalizing my essay "How long will the war in Ukraine last and what its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes"

Please ask RobSmith to end his juvenile behavior of vandalizing my essay "How long will the war in Ukraine last and what its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes".

I know in the past when he behaved inappropriately he was stripped of Admin powers.

Thank you. Conservative (talk) 20:06, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Nazi views spammed across Conservapedia

Swastika on display in a Kyiv mall, February 2019. Times of Israel

Honestly Andy, I'm getting tired of User:Conservative's relentless trolling of me from 7 AM every morning and his spamming pro-Nazi views throughout Conserpavedia. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:10, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, I assure you that I am not a German nationalist who longs for a leader like Adolf Hitler to become the new fuhrer of Germany and if you have any doubts about this matter, please read my essay The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future. USA! USA!USA! Conservative (talk) 20:37, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
American jingoism isn't a cover for spamming Nazi views.
What about your trolling? Is that an admission, ignoring the complaint? Don't answer only half the question. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:44, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
We've already documented your use of the Soros-funded Alexander Motyl, globalist Peter Zeihan, and neocon Karen Dawisha among only a few to push Ukrianian Nazism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:52, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, please stop committing the The Hitler Card logical fallacy. Show some self-respect. Conservative (talk) 20:52, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
You've been asked dozens of times, hundreds, to stop peddling American support for Ukrainian Nazism and globalism. What about your deliberate daily trolling? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:54, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, Peter Zeihan predicted the war in Ukraine significantly before it happened. You did not. Conservative (talk) 21:00, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Peter Zeihan is an "Anti-Conservative" "liberal", per Wikileaks. As a globalist insider with Stratfor, of course Zeihan would know.
Do you deny George Soros was a Nazi collaborator, the man who funds Alexander Motyl's attempt you use to discredit Operation Denazification?
What about your daily trolling, intended to irritate others and prevent them from productive editing? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:08, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
"Zeihan predicted the war in Ukraine significantly before it happened. You did not."
Isaiah 8:19: And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God?"
I am not one of your sorcerers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 07:23, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
I didn't "predict the war" cause I didn't believe Biden and NATO would be stupid enough to go ahead with it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 03:50, August 28, 2023 (EDT)
But when Biden did decide to escalate the war in April 2022, you and him seem to be on the same wavelength, and have been so ever since.
What's your problem? Because the MSM didn't shout for the housetops, "Global politics for the next 30 years has changed!", you don't believe it? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:58, August 30, 2023 (EDT)

The photo you see at the right is a violation of the Joint Allied Declaration of May 1945 barring display of Nazi insignia, yet User:Conservaitve has become a venomous critic of those trying to enforce the agreement, and an apologist for NATO & US support of Nazism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:15, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

I am not on trial RobSmith. And unlike you I have never been de-sysoped.
Furthermore, stop using the genetic fallacy. Peter Zeihan gives perfectly legitimate information on Russian demographics. And you yourself have quoted MSM sources on the main page which I documented. Rules for thee, but not for me! Conservative (talk) 21:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
The Joint Allied Declaration of May 1945 barred display of Nazi insignia in all Nazi occupied territories from France to Ukraine. Do you support American violations of international law? The United States was funding Ukrainian Nazis at the time that February 2019 photo was taken. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:25, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Again, I am not on trial RobSmith. I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. Conservative (talk) 21:29, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
You must think this is some kind of a joke. It's not. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:32, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
The root problem is that you are obsessed with me. Anyone can see that by looking at your user page. My user page doesn't have one iota of concern about you. Please get a grip on yourself. Conservative (talk) 21:35, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) There is well over 200,000 dead now at the hands of the Ukrainian fascist regime, and you have spammed and trolled me relentlessly since February 2022 to prevent me from telling conservative readers what is happening with their financial support.
And you have used Nazi, fascist, and globalist sources in your so-called "Essays" to justify prolonging support for the conflict. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:39, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
It's an obsession with you. You have spent the entire day today writing on support for globalism and global fascism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:42, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Develop a hobby RobSmith. Get a dog. Maybe these things will break the stranglehold of your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 21:43, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

What about your trolling? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:51, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, when I see that your obsession with me has ended, then I will think about never writing about the USA, China, Russia, Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping or Ukraine at Conservapedia. But not before then. Godspeed on ending your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 21:53, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
There Andy, you see? He admits he trolls on article subject pages and Essays he knows nothing about and has no interest in cause he doesn't like my User page. And my user page was created only as a reaction to his trolling of me across Conservapedia. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:57, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, Andy is quite aware that I extended an olive branch to you recently which you rejected. So I predict that Andy will not respond to your whining and childish antics. So I suggest you end your obsession with me. But if you don't that's no sweat off of my back.

Godspeed on ending your obsession with me. Conservative (talk) 22:07, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

User:Conmservative: Here's my terms:
  • Remove and/or delete some of the vindictive garbage you've posted in your userspace, in Essays, and in article Mainspace;
  • quit crying to mommie everytime you get your feelings hurt;
once you completed this, I swear, I will be happy to remove and delete the one sentence quotation of the words you used to troll me on April 17, 2022 on MainPage/talk, and you got your underwear in a knot over, and have wasted probably well over 325 hours of your life to promote Nazism in retribution to my work. Thank you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:17, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

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Olive branch? What olive branch? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:47, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

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Can't answer a simple question: What olive branch? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:25, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

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17,424 bytes of spam added when he can't answer a simple question asked twice. What olive branch? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 07:39, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
Just to be clear, I alluded to considering not writing about various political topics in the future.

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"Andy is quite aware that I extended an olive branch".
What olive branch? Answer that question, and that question alone, please. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:19, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith you wrote: "You must think this is some kind of a joke. It's not. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:32, August 25, 2023 (EDT)"
In case you didn't notice, I think you are a joke. And you deserve my mocking and scorn. Conservative (talk) 16:25, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Pope Francis added to US-funded Ukrainian Nazi kill list

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Exactly one month later:

Pope Francis was added to the Ukrainian Nazi kill list in late August 2023.

Roman Catholic Pontiff Pope Francis I was added to the Ukrainian Nazi kill list in late August 2023.[38] Speaking to the 10th All-Russian Catholic Youth Assembly in a video address in late August 2023 Pope Francis said

“Never forget your heritage...You are the descendants of great Russia: the great Russia of saints, rulers, the great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire – educated, great culture and great humanity...Never give up on this heritage...You are descendants of the great Mother Russia, step forward with it...And thank you – thank you for your way of being, for your way of being Russian”.

Advisor to the fascist regime of Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky, Mykhailo Podoliak blasted the speech as "imperialist propaganda", CNN reported. [39] Days later, Pope Francis was added to the official Ukrainian Ministry of the Interior's Myrotvorets, or "Nazi kill list", [40] a joint effort with NATO and the U.S. taxpayer funded CIA. [41]

User:Conservative is in way over his head when discussing geopolitics, or writing Essays on geopolitics. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:43, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

Waaaaa! Boo hooo! teachers' pet turned his user page into an attack page! Waaaa!

Behold: [42]. It's one thing to be fooled occasionally, but to be self-deceived and wear it on his sleeve gives others' pause to worry about his wellbeing.

Question: How many hours of non-productive editing do you think he put into this? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:00, August 29, 2023 (EDT)

Here's the bottomline: for 15 years many Conservapedia editors have tirelessly refuted the charge that conservatives and Republicans are Nazis. Now, when actual Nazis appear, User:Conservative uses every Soros funded and globalist source he can lay his hands on to refute that fact. Not cause he knows or understands anything about it. But rather to attack and refute me, simply because I exposed him as not knowing anything about American politics, contemporary events, foreign policy, geopolitics, or history. I didn't do it to mock him. I did it to simply get him to stop sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong, or pretending to be knowledgeable. Boy, did that ever backfire. He's rivetted on destroying me now, 24/7. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:44, August 30, 2023 (EDT)

I would like another chess match with you

I would like another chess match with you; I'll bring you an apple next time. I could have asked in a private email, but I need to show off my special privileges to the world cause of my narcissistic personality disorder.

I would like another chess match with you. Online chess platforms which offer 60 minute or more games are freechess.org, Chesscube.com or https://lichess.org/. Once I get back into the swing of playing chess, perhaps we can play short game chess. I used to play chess with my cousin who was the chess champion of his high school. Maybe chess is like riding a bicycle in that it comes back to you quickly.

Once I tackle a few projects, I will get back to you on this. Conservative (talk) 07:53, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, User:Conservative is filling up unrelated articles with too much Scientism. The bible instructs us:
"And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise." (Phil 4:8).
He's gone the opposite direction. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:18, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, already ruled on this matter. He said that the Dark Triad personality traits article is a legitimate article. "Revision as of 18:14, August 23, 2023 (edit) (undo). Aschlafly (Talk | contribs | block)m (looks like a legitimate entry - deleting tag suggested deletion of this) (change visibility)"[43]
Furthermore, you were caught in a lie as far as far as your criticism off the article as can be seen at Talk:Dark Triad personality traits.
Lastly, what does this have to do with chess? To me at least, this appears to be a childish cry for attention. Conservative (talk) 09:30, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) That's all well and good. My point is, the Personality article should contain things like the fruit of the Spirit:
love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance against such there is no law (Gal 5:22-23)
not the maliciously motivated scientism directed against one of your imaginary enemies that you are adding. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:39, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
" what does this have to do with chess?" I'm pulling a User:Conservative - intruding in a conversation I don't belong and derailing the subject. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:41, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
Add the some or all of the fruits of the spirit to the personality article. Don't create a false dilemma out of spite. You're initial whole gutting of the article was spiteful. Conservative (talk) 09:42, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
Psychology and scientism isn't my specialty (and I don't pretend that it is, either). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:43, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Ok then. If you are very unfamiliar with psychiatry and psychology, you should defer to Andy's ruling. Andy saw that I used psychiatry/psychology journals, etc. Conservative (talk) 09:50, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Regardless, your complaints have nothing to do with chess which is the topic of this thread. Conservative (talk) 09:53, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Ok, so you are a scientism-ist, good. I'm just looking at the first sentence of the narcissistic personality disorder page:
"Narcissistic personality disorder entails behaviors and attitudes that are designed to preserve a self-image of perfection, entitlement, and superiority"
which apparently is the motivation behind creating this thread. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:56, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
So Andy gives you a waiver on the civility rules after you posted, "I think you [RobS] are a joke. And you deserve my mocking and scorn." Now you wanna go out and have a drink with him, and you want the whole world to know it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:01, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
Chess is a board game that many people enjoy playing - nothing more and nothing less. Get a grip. Stop being such a drama queen who butts into a thread with irrelevant matters because he desperately wants attention.
I predict that Andy will ignore this latest childish attempt at getting his attention. Conservative (talk) 10:04, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
I got a grip. So Andy wants to play chess with somebody suffering from narcissistic personality disorder. That's his business. And you probably are right. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:09, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
The advice I can give to Andy is, both Machiavelli and wise King Solomon warned people in positions of power to avoid flatterers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:11, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

When you put hide templates on people's content during civil discussions and engage in other bullying behavior, you should be surprised when you earn someone's scorn.

User: DavidB4 on User: RobSmith's ill-behavior: User: DavidB4 said about RobSmith's recent interactions with User: Conservative the following: "Anyway, I can't see either Conservative or Rob getting demoted. But maybe like Karajou, Conservative will get bullied out too. Then Rob is the last one standing." - DavidB4 (TALK) 23:03, July 9, 2023 (EDT)"

User: SamHB on User: RobSmith: "Now let me get to the point for real. Why do you continue engaging with this person??" ...You are, by far, the smartest, best educated, most knowledgeable, best informed person of all the regular contributors here. Except for Andy and myself, of course. :-) You have better things to do than bang your head against the wall."- User: SamHB.[44]

And remember, previously you were stripped of you adminship due to bad behavior.

RobSmith, you just stated concerning me: "So Andy wants to play chess with somebody suffering from narcissistic personality disorder." User: RobSmith, you just said that psychology was not your speciality.

With that being said, please feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 10:15, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) You're lying now. DavidB4 did not criticize my "ill-behavior." Now you're tarnishing his reputation. Leave him alone.
Anyways, I have more productive things to do with my time. Yes, I do work with people suffering from personality disorders in the ministry I'm involved with - and take on some hard cases - but this one is going to need some more prayer.
Unlike you, I don't need to mock you - you do a pretty job of that yourself without any help.
Note to Andy: above I said his trolling begins at 7 AM my time (MDT); it's now 8:15 and he's impeded 1 hour and 15 minutes of my time preventing me from productive editing. Thank you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:20, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
And no, I'm not going to bring in third party criticism of User:Conservative (he's deleted it all in CP, anyway). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:21, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

A nother user is vandalizing the Narcissistic personality disorder article

Waaaaa! Boo hooo! I've been called out for my narcissism Waaaa!

User: RobSmith is vandalizing the Narcissistic personality disorder article.

He is doing it as a childish means of seeking attention.

And he has already admitted on your user page that he knows very little about psychiatry/psychology. Conservative (talk) 12:44, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, see it for yourself. This is the sort of Narcissism that appears in Conservapedia Essay mainspace:
For context: ...I am still far greater than your [sic] all godless countrymen....
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:50, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
That essay was a humor essay and there is a humor tag right on essay. Lately, you have become very humorless.
Regardless, that section is now titled "The British empire collapsed. Citizens of the godless UK and godless Britain I laugh at your pothole-filled streets. Britain is the fountainhead of Darwinism and hasn't mastered road repair - let alone biology. Two of the most basic vital processes relating to biology are breathing and eating. Britain has been called the "fat man of Europe"!" which I think is a more descriptive and humorous subtitle. Conservative (talk) 13:05, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
bla bla bla excuses.
Let's suppose the grammatical error written in haste was meant to read, "I am still far greater than all your godless countrymen".
Do you still claim to be far greater than a nation of 60 million people? If so, I would propose Deleting this Essay. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:08, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
Humor tag? What humor tag? Have I busted you lying to Andy again? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:14, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
I thought a humor tag on the essay. Thanks for pointing that out. I just put a humor tag on the essay. Anyways, given some of the content, is very evident that the essay has humorous elements. Conservative (talk) 13:49, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

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It's very evident the author suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:53, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you just said you know extremely little about psychiatry/psychology in the previous thread. I can't help but think you are once again engaging in attention-seeking behavior. Conservative (talk) 13:56, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

  • "as a God-fearing child of the Almighty I am still far greater than you" - User:Conservative
  • "Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith." - Romans 3:27
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:01, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

I would spend more time creating articles and less time whining on Andy's talk page.

He invariably ignores your whining on his talk page. I predict he will once again ignore you. Conservative (talk) 14:07, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Hey, you started this thread. Boo hoo. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:25, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
And if you call the Word of God "whimpering", I can only pray for you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:26, August 31, 2023 (EDT)


Let me thank you, User:Conservative, however; your trolling today has only cost me 2 of the past 6 hours. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:54, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, if User:Conservative was actually focused on creating productive, educational content for our readers rather than executing his personal vendettas against other people in Mainspace and Essays, we all could get much more accomplished. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:56, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Off-topic dispute

User: RobSmith's anti-Americanism: "It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first." - User: RobSmith, August 14, 2023 (EDT) Put an "enemies of the United States template" on User: RobSmith's user page. Conservative (talk) 18:07, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

Nobody asked for your two cents from the peanut gallery. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:08, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
User: RobSmith doesn't want you to criticize socialists and communists during the war in Ukraine: "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up." - User: RobSmith 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST) Conservative (talk) 18:10, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
Stick to your specialty, UK potholes. The adults are talking.
Andy, observe the timestamps and User:Conservative's contribs. This is trolling activity. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:11, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
Personally, I believe User:Conservatives is so accustomed to being trolled and harassed, he has picked up their trolling techniques and incorporated them into his own normal discussion habits. And because he refuses to engage in civil discussion with other editors on his own talk page, he forces all this garbage out onto the open wiki. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:30, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
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