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India news

Indian Opposition Leader Rahul Gandhiji: Impossible for BJP to win if INDIA Alliance just does this

To understand Indian Politics, you have to understand (1) the BJP-RSS are a Radical Hindutva Nationalist Party that is ok with Persecution of Christians (and other Minorities), and (2) are extremely corrupt. Below, Rahul Gandhi points out that the Congress Party and all Allies can surely win if only they stay united.

"PM Modi and the BJP are a nexus of corruption and that is the first time the INDIA alliance will demonstrate and prove, Rahul Gandhi said as the two-day meeting of the opposition alliance in Mumbai concluded. It is impossible for the BJP to win the election as the opposition stage, Rahul Gandhi said, represents 60% of the Indian population. "So the task in front of us is to come together in the most efficient way possible. And two major steps have been taken in this regard -- a coordination committee and that we will expedite all seat-sharing discussions. These are two powerful steps in ensuring that the INDIA alliance defeats the BJP," Rahul Gandhi said."

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/impossible-for-bjp-to-win-because-rahul-gandhi-from-india-alliance-stage-101693568034910.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:43, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

Keep me posted. I try to stay abreast of India affairs, but this Niger and Africa deal is cutting into my time right now (not to mention all the trolling I've been subjected to over the past 2-3 weeks). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:13, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

INDIA alliance will easily defeat BJP in elections: Rahul Gandhi

https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok-sabha-polls-2024/video/india-alliance-will-easily-defeat-bjp-in-elections-rahul-gandhi-2429731-2023-09-01

"Congress leader Rahul Gandhi said that he feels the INDIA alliance will easily defeat the BJP in the elections.

Speaking at the joint press conference after day meeting of the INDIA bloc parties in Mumbai, Rahul Gandhi said, "This stage represents 60 per cent of the Indian population. If the parties on this stage unite, it is impossible for the BJP to win an election." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:32, September 2, 2023 (EDT)

UK March for Life

Today is the UK March for Life. Please Pray for its wider success.

From: https://twitter.com/spucprolife/status/1697983456154702288

"Thousands of pro-lifers are uniting in London to March for Life and say NO to the violence of abortion. SPUC is thrilled to March alongside thousands of courageous pro-lifers and proudly proclaim that we will Make Abortion Unthinkable"

Related article on this from the liberal Guardian from some time back: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/02/us-anti-abortion-groups-uk-far-right

You still haven't explained why we should support the fascist regime of the UK that arrests people for praying in their heads, and why we should support the UK's fascist war on Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:27, September 3, 2023 (EDT)

"If we can do it, you can do it’: US anti-abortion groups ramp up activities in UK"

Emboldened by victories at home, some of the most prominent American anti-abortion groups are exporting their tactics overseas

Anti-abortion groups are stepping up efforts to spread US-style abortion politics to the UK, ramping up spending with the ambition of shaking up political life beyond American borders." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:13, September 2, 2023 (EDT)

OMG. "ramping up spending with the ambition of shaking up political life beyond American borders". Hasn't the Open Society Foundations done enough damage to the peace and security of the planet by "ramping up spending with the ambition of shaking up political life beyond American borders."? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:30, September 3, 2023 (EDT)

Pro-Lifers have to beat the Left at their own game. If Governor De Santis gets in, the US government will be undoubtedly pro-life for the next 4 if not 8 years after that. So, US Pro-Life Organizations would be freed up to promote the Pro-Life Cause outside the US. As that Guardian article mentions, it has happened before, but not to the full extent it could. As for the UK government becoming Leftist and trying to persecute Pro-Lifers, yes, that's a problem. That's why Pro-Lifers need to work harder and be smarter to win this fight. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:28, September 3, 2023 (EDT)

Your outmatched by Soros. And the US/UK governments will just put sanctions on you and seize your bank account. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:40, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

And that's why Gov. De Santis needs to get in, as he'll stop that weaponization of government against Pro-Lifers, as he has promised. As for the UK Government, I'm not sure. I hope either Rishi Sunak or Boris Johnson or whoever gets in will do it, but I'm not sure they will. They haven't promised any such thing. De Santis has and his promises are credible. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:55, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

The Deep State has six-ways-from-Sunday to thwart DeSantis. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:35, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

And if the Deep State doesn't try to sabotage DeSantis, as they did Trump, that means DeSantis has come to an accommodation with them. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:42, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

"DeSantis has removed TWO Soros funded DA’s in Florida. He didn’t run his mouth, he took action. He didn’t complain about it, he fired them. He’s proven that he’s willing to do the things he says he’s going to do." https://twitter.com/AbbyJohnson/status/1694528017941340632

Hero. De Santis knows what needs to be done. And he's done it before. Oh, that Conservatives would rally around him quickly! We win if we do. Once and for all. The Culture War, which is like a Moral and Spiritual World War III, ends and we win and win big if we do. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:00, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

DC isn't Florida. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:02, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

Governor De Santis has the Best Record to finally bring change to the Washington Establishment in DC. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:39, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

As a deep state insider, possibly. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:46, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

"Any man who tries to be good all the time is bound to come to grief among so many who are so bad." - Il Principe. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:49, September 4, 2023 (EDT)

As a deep state destroyer, yes.

"8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if all this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment." (2 Pet 2:8-9) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:|]] [[User talk:|(talk)]]

One man can't take on the Deep State, ask JFK, Nixon, or Trump. It's too big and too entrenched.

Maybe one competing faction in the deep state can surmount another faction, but it probably can't be destroyed now without uprooting the whole system of the US federal government and its relations with media, academia, think tanks, lobbyists, and government contractors. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:46, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

The Four 2024 Elections That Will Shape the Second Half of the Decade

From: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/four-2024-elections-will-shape-second-half-decade

"In 2024, four of the world's largest countries and territories will hold elections that will shape global affairs during the second half of the decade. In March, Russia is scheduled to hold a presidential election to appoint its leader until 2030. Between April and May, India will hold general elections to appoint the government and parliament that will lead the country until 2029. In June, the European Union will hold bloc-wide elections to appoint members of the European Parliament for the 2024-2029 period, which will also result in a new European Commission. Finally, the United States will hold legislative and presidential elections for the 2025-2028 period. Combined, these elections will cover a population of roughly 2.3 billion people and a GDP of approximately $42 trillion, and their results will set the tone for global interactions into the 2030s...." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:23, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

The EU Parliament doesn't have the power you think it has, and that's if the EU survives the Ukraine war. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:15, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Could Duginist "fourth positionism" facilitate the spirit of antichrist?

Quite recently, an interesting potential parallel startled me to an extent: Aleksandr Dugin's promoted concept of a "fourth political theory" distinct from classical liberalism, Marxism, and fascism, is eerily similar to the development of the Zealots among Judaism sects during the very midst of classical antiquity; Judas of Galilee, a fanatical ultranationalist who advocated theocracy (sound familiar?), was its foremost militant leader, rallying the common people behind the noble cause of overthrowing those tyrants oppressing liberty and freedom.

And history isn't particularly kind to Judas of Galilee:

“	For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.	”
—Acts 5:36–37

God punishes us collectively for our societal sins by using tyrannical governments to suppress us from committing further evils; anyone who thinks that a right-wing populist anarchy is morally preferable to a Commu-Bidenist regime should look at the Jewish history of the 1st century: Zionist mobs temporarily freed themselves from Pagan Rome's restrictive decrees, and subsequent horrendous abominations followed, reaching even to the levels of infanticide. Later in the Bar Kokhba revolt, apostate Jews, believing their syncretic ideology (which presented the pursuit of a militant Zionist theocracy as godly and righteous) blending ultranationalism and religion to be just, persecuted Jewish Christians who refused to support the insurrection, as the historian Eusebius records. The result was a separation of Judaism from Christianity: while Jewish Christians were previously a major sect in the church, subsequent Roman prohibition of Jews from the holy city ensured a Gentile appointment to bishop of Jerusalem.

Dugin's well-promoted "fourth political theory" is clearly an outgrowth of the same illiberal, ultra-populist sentiments, rapidly growing in recent years, that Trumpism spawned from. The increasing emphasis on attempting to justify "right-wing populist" anarchism by "whatever means necessary" as a supposedly valid excuse to ending "the evil globalist regime" eerily resembles the attitude of the Zealots led by Judas of Galilee. The Bible is very clear in condemning such populist agitation:

“	And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.	”
—Mark 12:17

“	Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.	”
—Romans 13:1–4

“	Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.	”
—2 Thessalonians 2:3–4

—LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 20:41, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Maybe now you are getting closer to understanding the choice God lays before you, law (which includes human government, building and maintaining standing armies, etc.) or grace. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:58, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

“	Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.	”
—Romans 3:31

“	For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.	”
—Romans 6:14–15

“	What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.	”
—Romans 7:7

“	Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.	”
—James 2:24

“	He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.	”
—1 John 2:4

Thank God I read the New Testament in full so I understand its complete meaning instead of getting deceived by your quote-mining games. I noticed that you cited Romans 6:14 a lot to imply that Christians shouldn't focus on keeping the law, and the very next verse says that doers of the law are justified! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 21:07, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Go back and read Exodus chpts 30-33 (especially 33, easy to remember cause that's length of Jesus' life, Wherefore if I have found grace in thy sight, show me now thy ways, that I might know thee.)_RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:51, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Salvation and justification are two different things. We are saved by grace through faith and faith alone (Eph. 2:8) and justified by the completion of our faith through works. (James 2:22) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 21:57, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, good. You got all that New Testament doctrine down. Now go back to Ex ch 30-33 and learn about the sanctuary if you want to find grace in thy sight and be delivered from the law. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:13, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Dugin made it clear years ago that he wishes to apply Fourth Theory only in the former USSR and the Orthodox Balkans. In other regions, he backs different ideologies as allies in the anti-globalist revolution. In Western Europe, it's National Bolshevism. In the Middle East, they're Arab nationalism and non-Wahhabi Islamism. In East Asia, they're Maoism and Imperial Japanese-style statism. And in the Anglosphere, they're the woke left and the alt-right.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:12, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

Propaganda news

Zelensky replaces his defence minister with a thief and a pervert

• Zelensky replaces his defence minister with a thief and a pervert. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:06, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

• Ukraine’s New Defense Minister, Rustem Umerov, Is Already Under Investigation for Corruption: Sources. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:25, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Why Belgium is not sending F-16s to Ukraine

• It is NATO, rather than Russia that is being critically weakened by the war. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:40, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Bloomberg: Russia Expects to Sell Gas to China at Half the Price for Europe

Russia could have continued to have a productive relationship with Europe, instead of now becoming involved in almost a slave-like relationship with Communist China. Sad. : "Russia Expects to Sell Gas to China at Half the Price for Europe" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-08/russia-expects-to-sell-gas-to-china-at-half-the-price-for-europe#xj4y7vzkg NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:32, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

So Russia sells at a discount to its ally, while the US jacks up its price 400% to its NATO & EU partners. Hmm, what a deal. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:59, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Lemme 'splain something not reported in bs headlines like this: with an underwater pipeline like Nordstream, Russia and Germany had a 20 year long term contract at a discounted price, say $2.30. The daily cash-n-carry spot price for others in Europe was $4.00. When Biden blew up the pipeline, the cash-n-carry spot price for American gas was $8.00. But the Germans, or at least their idiot government, thinks paying 400% more, plus the building of overhead infrastructure to receive and store LNG from the USA, plus shelling out billions in cash to keep the corrupt Zelensky regime in power, plus demilitarizing themselves with their expensive worthless tanks and weapons and allowing their USA slave masters to commit terrorist attacks on their own civilian infrastructure, that that is somehow a better deal than living in peace and mutually beneficial trade with their Russian neighbors, after being on the losing end of an all-out race war they started after centuries of conflict. Yah, right. Makes perfect sense to the neocon fascists running the Western world. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:10, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

2nd UK Challenger 2 tank destroyed

• 2 down, 12 to go. UK has already announced they have no plans to replace this glorious pile of junk. Additionally, the UK has lied about the crews surviving. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 06:26, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

This is what is known in the English language as "a wake up call". Taxpayers in NATO countries have spent about $10 million a copy for 80 years to develop these tanks which are destroyed in about 10 minutes by a $200 drone. Now, you the taxpayer can continue to listen to the people who have fed you this brainwashing propaganda for the past 80 years on what the next steps are, or you can re-examine your whole life, as the German people were forced to do one morning when they woke up to see a T-35 outside their bedroom window and wondered 'How did this happen? The government & media said it was impossible.' RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:40, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Russian Tank SURVIVES Direct Hit By A Leopard II

• Russian Tank SURVIVES Direct Hit By A Leopard II.

If you think it's propaganda bs, say so. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:32, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

More from Larry Johnson

• Must read: AN AMERICAN IRISHMAN SPINS UKRAINIAN FANTASIES IN SCOTLAND.

"European racism and revanchism is alive and well and toxic as ever. The latest manifestation of this toxicity comes courtesy of the Atlantic Magazine publishing a piece by Phillips Payson O’Brien with the catchy title, The U.S. and Europe Are Splitting Over Ukraine. Ah, divorce is on the horizon? I pray that O’Brien is right on this point...."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:32, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

O'Brien sounds like User:Conservative:

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:42, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder: Democracy in Russia, "no need for elections" because allegedly Putin "will obviously win" - rigged to the core

From Business Insider: "The Kremlin's spokesperson said Russia "theoretically" doesn't need to hold presidential elections next year. The elections don't need to happen because "it's obvious that Putin will be reelected," Dmitry Peskov said." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:41, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Business Insider belongs in Propaganda news, although it does have some good information from time to time. it's not just an echo chamber. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:47, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Estonia PM Kaja Kallas: it takes collaboration to win

"In her keynote speech kicking off Tuesday's conference, Estonian PM Kallas called on Ukraine's allies to work collectively to "mitigate the threats" posed by Moscow.

"Democracies can use technology to win every time, but there is a crucial fourth ingredient, and that is collaboration," she said.

"Take it from a leader of a small country on the front line of the free world, we need to do this together. First and foremost, right now, this means supporting Ukraine until victory with weapons financing and know-how but also bringing Ukraine into the collaborative formats we have [such as] NATO, [the] European Union and others."

Estonia has emerged as a principal ally of Kyiv in its war against Russia, providing extensive deliveries of arms and financial support, while welcoming the arrival of 115,000 Ukrainian refugees inside the country.

Tallinn nearly doubled its annual cybersecurity budget last year alongside the commitment to spend 3% of our GDP on defence overall, said Kallas. " https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/05/cyberspace-is-ukraine-war-frontline-warns-estonian-pm NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:15, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

She's a twit. Read the Estonia article. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:42, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

There's more Nazis in Ukraine than in Estonia, although Estonia has its contingents it's sent to Ukraine already. So Germany (maybe its Denmark or Canada?) has to bolster Estonia's defense cause its 700 man Army isn't big enough. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:47, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, and nobody told that twit Kallas before she got elected that NATO's plans were not to defend Estonia at all, but let the Russians occupy it "for the first 180 days". This is an amazing fact: How much do you think they are paying her now, or what kind of perks and promises is she getting to be all "Rah Rah NATO!", now that the brilliant NATO war planners who got 200,000 Ukrainian troops exterminated in their brilliant plans have been exposed? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:51, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Zelensky: There Will Be "No Happy Ending"

• This must be the message Blinken, BoJo, and Baerbock carried to him last week. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:43, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

General Petraeus says Russian forces could 'crumble' as Ukraine counter expected to run until winter

"America must send long-range missiles and speed up the delivery of fighter jets to Ukraine, one of the West's most experienced commanders told the Telegraph.

Retired four-star general David Petraeus, who led coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Washington and other Western governments had to "get past" attempts to block Kyiv from vital aid.

He said the US should end its opposition to sending the Army Tactical Missile System (Atacms), which has a range of nearly 200 miles, while other leaders should increase their own long-range support.

His intervention came as Ukraine edged closer to breaking through Russia's three-tiered defensive system, giving its forces a clearer route to the Azov coast as they bid to drive a wedge between Moscow's occupying forces."

https://youtu.be/21SVQY0ymZ8 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:02, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

General Petraeus is a delusional psychotic on drugs. WHY ARE RETIRED AMERICAN GENERALS SO CONSISTENTLY WRONG? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:10, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

This is pure propaganda bs: "Ukraine edged closer to breaking through Russia's three-tiered defensive system". Nowhere, nowhere, has NATO/Ukraine even come close to reaching the very first tier of Russia's defense system. They are still fighting in outposts in no man's land. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:30, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

"These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

"Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

"Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

"This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:33, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Mearsheimer said the same thing recently. USA hasn't fought a peer military in a long time. The USA should be focusing on its economy and upgrading its primary school system via school choice instead of foreign military adventures with poor hopes of victory that would serve USA interests or at least be noble like resisting a Hitler against his attacks on decent allies. I hope the Democrats wind up in the political wilderness in my lifetime and the GOP improves itself. Conservative (talk) 22:59, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Yah? What about the Republicans and conservatives who support Ukraine Naziism? I've spent 16 years here in Conservapadia refuting the charges that conservative Republicans are Nazis or sympathetic to Nazism. All you do every day, all day, for 18 months is attack those fighting Nazism. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

After reading User:Conservative's contributions for the past year and a half, I'm ready to walk away and say, "Yes, Republicans are Nazis." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:17, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

For a year and half, User:Conservative has toe'd the Democrat, fascist, globalist, neocon party line. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:21, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Kim Jong Un crosses Russian border for talks with Putin

Commie Thug: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66787449 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:14, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

• Vladimir Putin LIVE: Russian President Putin speaks at Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok.

"The things that are happening to Trump are persecution of a political competitor...That is what it is...And it is done in the full view of the American public and the entire world...The controversy is beneficial to Russia in the sense that it exposes Washington for what it is...The United States demonstrates what they called in Soviet times the bestial scowl of imperialism."

Typical BBC, anything but the real story. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:19, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Now here is what you must realize: the BBC figures that you are stupid, and that you must be programed like a robot with sanitized news. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:23, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

PUTIN TALKS ABOUT HIS GRANDPARENTS AND WHAT HE SAID ON 9-11

by CIA analyst Larry Johnson (again, there is no such thing as "ex-CIA"):

"Many Western leaders continue to blather about Vladimir Putin as an evil tyrant. I want to share with you a couple of videos that present a different perspective...."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:18, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Pepe Escobar: Russia-China-North Korea Alliance DESTROYS the Neocons, Signals Demise of the West

Journalist and geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar analyzes the significance of a growing alliance between Russia, China, and the DPRK and why it scares the neocon foreign policy establishment in the Collective West so much.

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:16, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

So Russia's openly supporting Commie North Korea, which Open Doors ranks as No 1 on World Watch List of Persecution of Christians?

"How are Christians persecuted in North Korea? North Korea is once more the hardest place in the world to follow Jesus, and a brutally hostile place for Christians to live. If discovered by the authorities, believers are either sent to labour camps as political prisoners where the conditions are atrocious, or killed on the spot – and their families will share their fate as well. Christians have absolutely no freedom. It is almost impossible for believers to gather or meet to worship. Those who dare to meet must do so in utmost secrecy – and at enormous risk. Even owning a Bible is a serious crime and will be severely punished.

A report issued in 2022 by The International Bar Association and The Committee for Human Rights in North Korea said that Christians are particularly targeted and exposed to torture in North Korean prisons. "Detention periods have been documented as being longer for Christians than other groups, and witnesses have reported that ‘identified Christians are interrogated for longer periods, usually under torture’, and subjected to some of the worst forms of torture to force them to incriminate others during interrogation,” it said."

https://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/world-watch-list/north-korea/

That should tell us all we need to know about Thug Putin and his escapades. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:12, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

I dunno; you sound like a NeverTrumper now. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

So believing Atheist Commie North Korea is bad news and persecutes Christians makes me a "never Trumper"? You should ask Putin why he's allying himself with a known and indisputable Commie Thug like Kim Jong Un of North Korea who terribly persecutes Christians and ranks #1 in the dubious distinction of Persecution of Christians. Btw, one of the few good things Trump did was employ Raeganite Peace through Strength to deter Commie Kim John Un of North Korea. Peace through Strength worked 30 years ago, and it can work today. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:51, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

No. I'm just saying demonizing Kim jong-un makes you sound like a NeverTrumper (not to mention a neocon warmonger). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:33, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Poland to buy 486 HIMARS launchers from Lockheed Martin

"WARSAW, Poland — Polish Defence Minister Mariusz Błaszczak on Monday approved a framework deal to buy 486 launcher-loader module kits for its M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems." https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/09/11/poland-to-buy-486-himars-launchers-from-lockheed-martin/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:35, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Makes me wish I owned Lockheed Martin stock. What happened to those 700+ South Korean rocket launchers Poland bought?

Do you see how this system works? Once Himars get combat tested against Russian electronic warfare, the US begins development of a new multiple rocket launcher system to defeat it (which can take decades). Meanwhile, the US MIC has invested billions in junk technology to develop Himars, which is worthless against Russian electronic warfare. But they need to reclaim part of the cost. So they sell that old technology junk to Poland, and keep the new and improved good stuff for themselves.

IOWs, "Clearance Sale! Reduced! All Items Must Go! For A Limited Time Only 486 HIMARS Are On Sale For The Low Low Price of $1.99! Sale Ends Saturday!" RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:40, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Well, if you want to buy Stock in Lockheed Martin, you still can. But you can ultimately Thank Putin for it, otherwise most Western Nations were more or less practicing unilateral disarmament after the Cold War, believing the Soviet Bear's Trojan Horse of a False Peace.

"Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep." https://www.azquotes.com/quote/536675 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:14, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

That's Gorby, not Putin. Being a little deceptive there, huh? And the big kicker is, you forgot to mention Gorby failed. The only purpose of posting that here, now, is Russophobic. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:58, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

And this is the biggest pile of horse manure I've seen today: "Western Nations were more or less practicing unilateral disarmament after the Cold War." If that were true, NATO would not have expanded. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:02, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, I know it was Gorbachev - it said so in the link I gave, after all. The point is, this was a part of a deliberate Kremlin strategy you've fallen for. It is an old ploy of "detente" - as old as the Trojan Horse Trick, in fact, and the Soviets knew it well. The ploy was to pretend to have radically "changed" to being "Pro-Peace" while the establishment elite in the Kremlin adhered to the old ways, biding the right time for the dreamed of invasion of Europe. It nearly worked too. Unfortunately for such Kremlinistas, they did not factor in Poland. Btw, look at this chart: Poland's Military Spending was over 17 BN in 1977. It still hasn't reached that, and was around 2-3 BN in the 1990s. It will, though. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.CD?locations=PL NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:59, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

A reader wouldn't have known it was Gorby unless they clicked on it, and then you continue with more bigotry implying modern Russia is communist. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:05, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Bottomline, I do not care where you get your information or propaganda from, but if you say or imply the government of the Russian Federation or its president is "communist", do not be surprised if people say or imply that you are spreading nazi propaganda or that you are a "nazi". This isn't a game. It's the world we live in in 2023.

Lessons learned: examine closely the sources of your information before consuming, believing, or sharing it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 03:09, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

This isn't Rocket Science. Anyone clicking on the link would have seen Mikhail Gorbachev's name at least 3 times on the page. You need to come to terms with the fact that many Kremlin hardliners, even after the so-called fall of the Soviet Union, adhered to the old ways. Call it Communism or call it Anti-Western Hysteria, or call it the Russian Dream of the Invasion of Europe. Whatever you want to call it, the fact remains. Even General Petraeus recently said not much changed after the fall of the Soviet Union, which backs up what Gorbachev said. But of course you believe Kremlin propaganda on these things, that each and every western leader who says these things is high. Well, then, hear it from a Soviet leader. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:54, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

That's fascist propaganda. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:26, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

See above. Whatever source you got the Petraeus quote from is a bald face lie. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:28, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

General Petraeus said so himself in that video I posted on top. Has Putin ever lied, according to you? When he claimed he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, and dismissed it as "Western Hysteria" that he was, was that a lie or not? Of course, it was, a red-handed lie. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:18, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Not to be redundant from the above thread, but this is a bald face lie: "Ukraine edged closer to breaking through Russia's three-tiered defensive system". The AFU is not within 12 km of THE FIRST tier of defenses. All fighting is in no man's land. The capture of half the rubble mounds in what used to be the town of Rabotino (pop 480 before evacuation), after 100 days of fighting, is what Petraeus refers to. Rabotino is a kill zone where the Russians, with Zelensky & NATO's help, have herded 20,000 untrained Ukrainian fighters into.

Former Zelensky chief propagandist Alexei Arestovich, who was fired for telling the truth that civilians in an apartment complex in Dnipropetrovsk were killed by a Ukrainian missile defense system that was illegally hidden in a civilian area - a war crime (This incident occurred shortly after last year's missile attack that killed 2 Polish farmers and that Zelensky lied about; in similar circumstances, Arestovich attempted to tell the truth to regain credibility, and was fired). Arestovich also is a former Lt. Col. in Ukrainian military intelligence, who said the first line of Russian defenses must be breached in the first 10 days (which was June 14). Petraeus is a pathetic liar, and frankly at this point, a war criminal for causing needless deaths. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:06, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

• Oh, here, Look. Ukrainians have made it up to tank traps outside Russia's First line of defense fortifications. Maybe this is what Petraeus is talking about:

Ukrainian Troops Are Dying INSIDE the Tank Ditch of Russia's 1st Surovikin Line - World War Z Style.

"Footage appeared online of a group of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers reaching the “Surovikna line” in the Zaporozhye direction. They walked, they wanted to film TikTok during the campaign, but our artillery pressed them, the equipment cannot reach the defense line, and you can’t fight much on foot. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are making progress, but it is very slow and in many places it comes at a huge cost, which is not commensurate with the result. In a month it will rain, and the fields will turn into swamps, let's see how it all ends."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:12, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

"we see Joe Biden dead set on winning in 2024, unable to countenance anything that comes anywhere close to being recognised as a defeat in Ukraine. He and those around him at the highest level clearly think they can ignore reality and simply repeat again and again that Russia has lost and that Ukraine is making steady (if incremental) progress. This is political corruption of the most criminal nature. Thinking that U.S. populations are totally conditioned by a mass media totally subservient to the Biden administration’s need for a positive narrative on Ukraine hundreds die daily for this sordid purpose. Was there ever such vile and heartless corruption in the world of politics and war. [2]

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:11, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Dreizin Report: YUUUUGE mistake to start the impeachment stuff now

[3] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:13, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Ignored genocide in Donbas

George Eliason, and American reporter living in Donbas (6 mins). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:33, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

The Russian Invader compared to western colonialists

Most honest and accurate Kremlin propaganda produced yet. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

The Kremlin is engaging in propaganda warfare without any regard for Truth. Sad to see certain otherwise-well informed conservatives falling for its blatant lies. The Colonial Age has passed. Russia is aiming to annex Territory for itself, and also tried to take Kyiv. It failed.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:15, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, unfortunately "conservatives" have become complete Commuputinist shills. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 16:57, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, you taking up the Nazi cause too, now? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:22, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Of course I don't support the Putinazi Wagner Group and their shills like Comsymp white supremacist Nick Fuentes, KKK member David Duke, neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin, not to mention the pro-Russia, white supremacist, anti-Jewish fake news outlet Veterans Today which is connected to the Putin-shilling mouthpiece SouthFront you love to cite. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:03, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. I'll put you down as in league with the gay rights activists. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

Ok. I'll put you down as in league with the fascist propagandists. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:35, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

"Then Jesus said to him, ‘Put your sword back into its place; for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.'" (Matthew 26:52)

This war has made Russia's demographic crisis worse. See: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse. Conservative (talk) 21:08, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Judgment is upon the nations! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:36, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Driezin update

"In first top-level MI6 visit there in years, British MI6 deputy director secretly visited Minsk, Belarus, this week, possibly yesterday. Possibly acting as middleman, Belarus president then (late yesterday or early today) flew to Sochi (not a secret) for long round of meetings w/ Putin & top Kremlin aides & others, to discuss (this will not be publicly disclosed) use of Wagner but not only. As I’ve said, GLOBOHOMO wants to freeze the war. Meanwhile, Russian reserve forces not yet moved into battle or to forward or near-forward positions, likely roughly equal or even exceed size of entire Russian “invasion force” of Feb/March 2022."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:48, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine-Russia war – live: ‘Significant losses’ for Putin’s forces as Kyiv retakes village and attacks ships

"Ukraine has claimed fresh success in its counteroffensive against Vladimir Putin’s forces, with the recapture of another village – a liberation that the army says is “key to success in all further directions”.

The announcement by the General Staff of Ukraine’s armed forces said that Russian forces had faced “significant losses” in the battle."

From: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-putin-nuclear-weapons-latest-b2411980.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:40, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

UK Independent. Man, you said a mouthful there. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:18, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Overview of the History and Future of US Foreign and National Security Policy

by David T. Pyne, Deputy Director, National Operations, EMP Task Force on National & Homeland Security; Former US Army HQ Staff Officer; Published National Security Strategist & Military Historian, Russia & Nuclear Weapons Expert. [4]

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:17, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Lol, another "intelligence failure". Bloomberg: "China’s Military Spending Is Much Bigger Than We Thought. Revised figures based on US intelligence give an estimate of $700 billion a year instead of the official figure of $300 billion." [5] Yah, CIA must be the same people doing the CPI these days, too. We can always print more money since China appears to be catching up. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:38, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

"Rather than invest the $200 billion we need for us to defend against these existential threats and save the lives of 275 million Americans who would likely perish in such an [ EMP ] attack, the Biden administration has opted to send $196 billion to Ukraine to defend a nation half a world away with which we have no security commitment."

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:54, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

China news

Xi abandons the global elite, snubs G20

More on this here.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:19, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

What is there to be gained, other than more longterm enslavement to the US SWIFT network and Petrodollar? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:22, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

When Blinken says, "Hey, unless you adopt gay marriage, we're going to kick you out of the SWIFT network," that kinda stuff might work with Taiwan or Zimbabwe, but not with Russia or China. ~!RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

"The Chinese Communist Party escalated its persecution of Christians throughout 2022 as the country clamped down on churches and online religious content while demanding allegiance to Chinese President Xi Jinping, according to a watchdog group.

A report released last week by the U.S.-based non-governmental organization ChinaAid warned that the Chinese government is using charges of "fraud" to financially suffocate the house church movement, which consists of Christian congregations that have not registered with China's official Protestant church.

Authorities are using the traditional Christian practice of giving tithes and offerings to trump up charges against house churches under the "Measures for the Financial Management of Religious Activity Venues," which were updated last June, according to the report. The report noted that multiple house church pastors and elders have been jailed and potentially face years in prison."

From: https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-ramping-up-persecution-christians-it-demands-worship-allegiance-xi-jinping-watchdog NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:08, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

OMG! Let's go kill the sunzabeeches. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 04:55, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Down with Communism! Down with the CCP! Down with Xi! NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:36, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

My kingdom is not of this world. Those who live by the sword die by the sword. Get thee behind me, Satan. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:42, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Cowardice and high treason against Christ the King. A betrayal of fellow Christians persecuted under Communism and refusal to stand with them. Peace through Strength brings down Communism, it's done it before, and it will do so again. I stand with Jesus Christ, and Pro-Life Christians like Pope St. John Paul II and President Raegan, Peace through Strength Conservatives who brought down Communism.

To Communist Persecutors of Christians, Christ will say to them when He comes in Glory: "41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry [in persecuted Christians] and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” (Mat 25)

See also Mat 24:45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:23, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

That which is flesh is flesh. That which is spirit is spirit. To be carnally minded is death. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:42, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Huawei Store vs Apple

• Huawei Store vs Apple (22 sec).

"You should not look at the war in Ukraine as an isolated phenomena with no bearing on the global economic order. The war in Ukraine is a symptom of the breakdown in the Western dominated “rules based” international order and this disruption is reverberating around the world. The recent coups in Africa, for example, are another sign that the vassals of the Western feudal lords are no longer willing to be de facto colonial subjects. They want some measure of independence and are turning to Russia and China to find a way out." [6]

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:55, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Taiwan rebukes Musk: Taiwan is Not for Sale

From ChannelNewsAsia:"TAIPEI: Taiwan is "not for sale", the island's foreign minister said in a stern rebuke to Elon Musk who asserted that Taiwan was an integral part of China, as the billionaire again waded into the thorny issue of relations between Beijing and Taipei.

Musk, the owner of the social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, as well as the Tesla electric car company and Starlink satellite network, made the comments to the All-In Summit in Los Angeles uploaded to YouTube this week." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:17, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Russia news

Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan

• Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan, Business Insider, 2023

• Putin says Russia faces big economic challenges, must keep inflation in check, Reuters, August 2023

For more information, please see:

• Essay: Russia's economy will enter a long-term decline

• Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future

• Essay: A Chinese economic collapse will be Russia's downfall

A lengthy war in Ukraine could be inflationary for Russia's economy. And it looks like the war in Ukraine could be lengthy (See: Essay: How long will the war in Ukraine last and what will its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes). Conservative (talk) 12:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Problems with inflation could be a big problem for Russia because many of its rural citizens have tight budgets and more limited job prospects. Conservative (talk) 12:37, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

You're only telling half the story from Business Insider:

Business Insider: "Western officials told the outlet that Russia is on track to manufacture two million artillery shells a year, which is twice as many as Western intelligence originally estimated it could make before the war...Russia, in fact, is now producing more ammunition than the US and Europe, with one senior Estonian defense ministry official telling The Times that Russia's current production is seven times that of the West."

If you are going to use Business Insider as a source, use its full context. Don't mix and match and cherry pick to come up with your preferred narrative. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:21, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Will the Ruble be reduced to Rubble by Putin's Unjust War? Nears 1 Cent

Graph in the Link: "📉 The Ruble continues to fall at just over .01c USD. That’s about the same price as a single piece of paper! #RussiaisCollapsing #RussiaisLosing" https://twitter.com/GlobalTensions/status/1700290830592864747 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Russia is not a member of the SWIFT network. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:23, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, the west kicked them out of SWIFT over this war, so China happily stepped up to take our place. Now China has even more power. Great. So what next? Russia completely implodes, and becomes a vassal to China? --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 19:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

So given the fact that Ruble cannot even be legally traded in the West, User:Conservative and Nishant somwhow think this means it's fallen in value on Western currency exchanges. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:05, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

The most powerful military on the planet today is not about to implode; however, the Western financial system is in danger of imploding, if not merely being cut down to size. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:08, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Let's make a simple, real simple, example: in the past, if Argentina wanted to buy Saudi oil, they had to buy US dollars first to make it happen. Now they don't. So that leaves a bunch of excess US dollars floating around the world out there somewhere, which eventually will return home and cause more inflation.

What compounds the problem is, the Congress keeps printing more money with Ukraine aid, disaster relief, covid relief, etc., dollars that nobody outside the US wants or needs.

We did this to ourselves, by threatening countries that if they don't adopt gay marriage, or don't acquiesce to the US overthrowing neighboring regimes like Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, etc. we'll sanction them, too. The rest of the planet is just fed up with US arrogant behavior and militarism. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, do Russians buy foreign goods? If so, would a lower-value rubble hurt Russians? Conservative (talk) 20:19, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

No, not really. Maybe a few rich people drive Porsches, but that's about it. The Russian economy is self-contained and self sufficient.

The US economy used to be self-contained and self-sufficient, but no longer; the US has an $875 billion annual trade deficit with China, meaning we export $875 billion a year in cash to our supposed enemies that could be used here to create jobs for homeless, etc. And what does China do with the $875 billion in capital they import from American consumers every year? Build a military! SHOCK! HORROR! Now we have to increase defense spending and taxes because Walmart consumers are helping to build the Chinese military! RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:29, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

The Russians are sitting pretty good. They're sitting on everything the rest of the world wants and needs, food, oil, gold, lumber, rare earths, fertilizers, etc etc etc. And they don't owe anybody anything. As you say, they have a small population, so they all could get pretty rich. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:33, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

The USA will have to decouple more and more from China due to the fact that their population is shrinking. You can't be the world's factory with worker shortages. Unless of course, robotics and AI are used. If this happens, then why would we need China? Just have the robots and AI in the USA to save shipping cost.

Secondly, the Chinese economy going down, which seems likely, will hurt Russia because Russia sells oil and gas to China. Conservative (talk) 20:43, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Good. Read the section I wrote at Coronavirus#Decoupling, that now needs revising since Biden's election theft and the fascist War in Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:47, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Let me say this one more time, and I'll try to be fairly clear: I think what you fail to realize is that we are in a transitional period of the global economy. It's kinda like, say, the period of 1945-1949 or 1945-1952, after WWII & the Great Depression. Meaning, all the old charts and graphs, or other data, you use to make comparisons from an earlier period, or projections into the future, are meaningless, and useless. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:47, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

Now the global economy likewise had to go through a major transitional adjust period from about 1973-1976 after Nixon took the US off the gold standard. But that was a minor tweek of the Bretton Woods System compared to what is happening now with the rise of BRICS.

We are not just going through a period of economic adjustment, but of a global political transition, as well. And the economics will follow the political changes, not the other way around. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:57, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

I realize that the global economy is in transition. And I don't think authoritarian/corrupt regimes are in a good position to take advantage of the changes - especially if they are facing big and intractable (or very hard to solve) problems.

It will interesting to see how things pan out by 2030. Conservative (talk) 20:59, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

NYT today: "Russia has managed to overcome sanctions and export controls imposed by the West to expand its missile production beyond prewar levels, according to U.S., European and Ukrainian officials, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable to intensified attacks in the coming months”. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

I think the true test will come when China's economy starts having bigger problems and orders less oil from Russia and this seems likely. See: Essay: A Chinese economic collapse will be Russia's downfall

Also, "China’s slumping economy is likely curbing many of its foreign policy ambitions and prompting a rethink of its policy toward the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Still, a systematic transformation of Beijing’s perspective on Ukraine or other key foreign policy matters is unlikely. Xi shares Moscow’s anti-Western hostility; demonstrates a very shaky grasp of economics, limiting his understanding of the scope of China’s domestic problems; and presides over a system that does not make major self-corrections easily. Xi may dial back China’s pro-Russia neutrality, but only reluctantly and partially."[7]

And traditionally, sanctions are tightened over time. Maybe Germany will wise up and reignite their nuclear energy industry. But to be honest, Germany is acting so irrationally, who knows what they are going to do next.

But maybe Europe will shift to the populist right politically and not be so keen about sanctions against Russia.

But after all is said and done, I really don't see Russia doing well long term. I doubt they will solve their significant problems such as their demographic crisis. Conservative (talk) 23:38, September 13, 2023 (EDT)

From today: Manufacturing Consent: The New York Times & the Media’s Anti-China Frenzy. Watch it. I have no clue why you wear so proudly on your sleeve, "I'm a propaganda stooge." I think it has something to do with your constant search for fortune tellers, sorcerers, and wizards that peep to give you some insight into the future. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:50, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Lauren Boebert, hypocritical disgrace

Well well, vaping and public disruption. So much for conservative values, eh? She marries a pervert, raises a teenage fornicator, ends up filing for divorce, and now this.

Remind you of anything? The Second KKK in the 1920s supported immigration restriction, working-class populism, "100 percent Americanism," patriotic nationalism, and "Christian morality," and on the last point turned out to be moral hypocrites when most notably their national leader, D. C. Stephenson, was convicted for the rape, torture, and murder of Madge Oberholtzer. Of course, the Second Klan, like the First, was a Masonic organization, so their religious appearance was a deceptive ruse the entire time in an effort to corrupt American Protestants, which proved effective when millions joined the KKK.

Speaking of which... How Norman Vincent Peale Taught Donald Trump to Worship Himself Peale was a 33-degree Freemason, but I'm sure this is a mere coincidence that means nothing, right? Right? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 11:49, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

This Boebert news ain't going on the Main Page. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:40, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Look at your sources:

• NY Post: "appears"
• HuffPo
• Salon
• Denver Post

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:46, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

I am in agreement now, after having read the devastating, horrific details from a qualified source, and not from the for-profit, partisan, gossip-mongers you posted. Yes indeed, she deserves to be drawn and quartered, and the remnants burnt at the stake. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:31, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

So the Boebert vid got 6.5M views, but Pakistani Muslims destroying a Christian church gets 3k views. Hmmm, what do you propose we do? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:40, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

The racist origins of the Bush/globalist establishment Republicans in the South

As we know, the establishment wing of the GOP lost in Texas in the vote on the Paxton Impeachment. Many of them probably were allies of Joe Straus, a former Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives and spokesperson for Moderate Republicans. And a fun fact: Straus's political beginnings began as a chauffeur to John Tower, a beneficiary of the so-called "Southern strategy" that elected Eisenhower-aligned, anti–civil rights Republicans to federal office, the first time some positions were held by Republicans since Reconstruction. While Tower was relatively moderate in his civil rights opposition and did vote against the Gore Amendment to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which his liberal Democratic colleague Ralph Yarborough supported), most of his general civil rights record was negative enough to gain the Texas suburban white support.

Another key case is Rick Wilson, one of the crybaby losers on the Lincoln Project. LP accused Youngkin in 2021 of employing a "Southern strategy," yet Wilson years ago posted a picture of a neo-Confederate "The South Will Rise Again" flag.

The historical roots are worth researching and reading up on: the early anti–civil rights white Republicans in the South in fact were not the old-school conservatives, but aligned with Dwight Eisenhower, who in fact was not heavily concerned with civil rights but sought Dixiecrat support in swing states like Texas. The Old Right conservative faction of the Republican Party was supported by the biracial "black-and-tan" faction led by Perry W. Howard, II, most notably in the 1952 presidential election when the GOP delegations from the Southern and border states supported the pro–civil rights contender Robert A. Taft—Mississippi's, led by Howard, and Arkansas', led by Osro Cobb, were the main examples. And then during the Eisenhower presidency, the black-and-tans were tossed aside to appeal to the "progressive" lily-whites, exemplified most in the likes of moderate Republican and segregationist Joel T. Broyhill.

Now, some may wonder: aren't the modern-day populist faction of the Southern Republicans rooted in even more racism than the establishment types were? Yes and no—probably a minority element of the ultraconservative side were early participants in racist propaganda appeals, though the shift of the rural areas occurred decades later, and didn't solidify until the 2000s. Even in 1980, Reagan lost the Deep South vote to Jimmy Carter! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 01:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Desantis news

DeSantis Campaign: Strong Second in Iowa "Good Enough" - Politico News

"“He’s got to keep pushing the Florida story as it relates to Iowa — both states having become punching bags for the national media,” Kochel added. “I think he’s got to keep coming back to the state, keep making the pitch, ‘cause it’s a good stump speech.”

One national GOP operative supporting DeSantis and granted anonymity to discuss campaign strategy, said, “I think we’re going to win Iowa; I think it’s going to be a great victory that’s really going to catapult the race. But a close second still is going to have that same effect.”

So far Never Back Down officials say they have received commitments from more than 12,000 Iowans to caucus for DeSantis. The PAC has 21 staffers throughout the state, and has spent $5.5 million in TV ads. It plans to shell out nearly $30 million in ads, mailers and other forms of direct voter contact in Iowa and the early voting state of New Hampshire by Thanksgiving."

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/08/desantis-campaign-lowers-expectations-in-iowa-strong-second-good-enough-00114856 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:54, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, so they admit they can't win. Of course, only two out of a dozen ever make out of Iowa. Their only hope is Trump stumbles over his own feet, gets locked up or assassinated. Where's the news in this story? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Many people think DeSantis has a Good Chance in Iowa, he's visiting all 99 Counties, and many State Evangelical Leaders support him, it just isn't make or break for him. I think DeSantis wins Iowa comfortably. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:43, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Here's what they are doing: they know he won't finish first, so they are prepping supporters for the eventuality when he doesn't so they can still call it a victory.

A week ago it looked like Ramaswamy might become the 2nd place finisher. He's down now, but he can still get back up. The contest for No 2 finisher is between DeSantis and Ramaswamy, cause only 1 will survive Iowa.

RFK was down two weeks ago when they played the antisemite card. He's back up already. Who knows what's going to happen? Maybe Larry Sinclair will come out of the closet between Iowa and New Hampshire and say he had sex and smoked crack with DeSantis or Ramaswamy. You can't bank on anything. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:02, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis' revives Tea Party style policies

“This government is spending way too much money. They've locked in the COVID-era levels of spending, which are totally unsustainable,” DeSantis said Friday during a Fox News interview when asked about the looming budget battle between congressional Republicans and President Biden. “They should absolutely have a big fight over righting that ship.”

DeSantis tried to expand the scope of that fight beyond just dollars and cents, arguing that conservatives can’t defeat the kind of big government policies they loathe without first starving the federal leviathan. “Part of the reason our bureaucracy is so out of control, and this deep state has developed like this,” he told Dana Perino, who will moderate the second GOP primary debate this month, “is because Congress has not been willing to use the power of the purse to discipline these agencies.”

This is comfortable ground for DeSantis.

He gave former House Speaker Paul Ryan fits over spending while in Congress, and he bucked Trump by voting against trillion-dollar budget deals. This could create a winning contrast between the governor, who has a record that fiscal conservatives like the Club for Growth adores, and the former president, who once described himself as “the king of debt” and who left behind a nearly $8 trillion tab for taxpayers." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/08/drawing_contrast_with_trump_desantis_gives_it_the_ol_tea_party_try__149733.html

Face it. DeSantis can't win on his own merit. He can only win as the default candidate after somebody comes up with a photo of Trump and Prince Albert with a 13-year-old girl, they lock Trump up, or the CIA takes him out. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:07, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. Laughable. I work in Investment Banking, and when recruiting we look at contrasting resumes between applicants. Here, look at the Presidential Resumes, T: "I raised the Debt by 8 Trillion Dollars", DeS: "I ran Record Budget Surpluses in Florida". I'm amazed some say they are Fiscal Conservatives but then support Trump over DeSantis after knowing that. This is devolving into a personality cult. Trump did some good things and some bad things, it's time to move on and turn the page on Donald Trump. President De Santis will pardon him, he can comfortably retire and enjoy his life, but Governor De Santis is the Best Man with the Best Conservative Record, not only Conservative Pro-Life and Conservative Anti-Woke and Anti-Covid-lockdowns etc record, but also clearly the Best Fiscal Record. Records speak for themselves. In this case, you're the interviewer, and you're hiring the next President. Choose carefully and wisely based on the resume. 02:10, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Look at the polling. The Undecideds aren't enough to close the gap between Trump and DeSantis. It's not even a contest. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:33, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder: DeSantis is estimated to have 45% Chances of winning the Presidential Nomination

"Lowry: So you’re like 50 percent on Trump’s chances now?

Rothman: I think he’s 45 percent. I’ve said I take the field, and I still take the field.

Lowry: That’s bold. MBD?

Michael Brendan Dougherty: I’m totally with Noah. I think DeSantis is either 40 or 45 percent for the nomination."

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/does-desantis-have-a-45-percent-chance-of-winning-the-republican-nomination/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

The Democrats are determined to take Trump out, one way or another. By his own account, Trump couldn't stop the Deep State when he was president in 2020. Perhaps dropping out of the race will be part of his plea deal. If that doesn't work, well, Epstein's suicide was practice. I don't know what's going to happen to Trump, but I don't see a happy ending if he keeps running for president. PeterKa (talk) 07:57, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

When a political party starts acting psychopathic (Tramples on the rights of others, domineering, arrogant, pathological lying, etc.) they have to be confronted via the rule of law and there needs to be a political realignment so they wind up in the political wilderness due to lack of votes.

So the GOP has to grow a spine via the rule of law and the Democrats need to keep bleeding voters. If they bleed enough voters the Democrats will either change or be replaced by another political party.

You can call this a "political intervention". It's like an intervention with an addict. Unfortunately, the Democrats are currently addicted to tyranny and immorality (late-term abortions, stirring up racial strife, incentivizing single motherhood, defunding the police, promoting sexual perversion, etc.). Maybe conservative Hispanic voters and conservative Christians will play a big role in this political intervention. Conservative (talk) 08:18, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:20, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

The GOP is at war with itself - between its neocon fascist establishment leadership and its populist MAGA/Tea Party base. And the base is wising up. They're not giving a blank check to neo-fascist RINO warmongers anymore. Brand loyalty is dying, and hopefully by the primaries it'll be dead. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:39, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder: Trump statistically tied with DeSantis in hypothetical Iowa head-to-head matchup with DeSantis

"The Public Opinion Strategies poll also found DeSantis closing the gap against Trump in a head-to-head matchup, with DeSantis having 40% support to Trump's 43% post-debate.

Pre-debate, DeSantis largely trailed with 34% compared to Trump's 51%."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-poll-shows-desantis-closing-gap-trump-after-first-republican-debate NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:15, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Trump Blasts DeSantis, Says He ‘Sided With the Communists in China’

Geez, I don't know how DeSantis can ever live this one down. [8]

See, when you make stupid, unfounded claims about your opponent or target, be wary of the boomerang effect. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:05, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Never Back Down tweets on DeSantis

"While Trump sits behind glass box seats at the Iowa-Iowa State football game, Ron DeSantis and Kim Reynolds watch the game with @CarsonKing2 and fans" https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1700598774849282117

"Is this why @realDonaldTrump left Iowa early? Again? [Image in the link of huge DeSantis 2024 banner at the game] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1700651544033526189

"Iowa ❤️‘s @RonDeSantis" [Video in the link] https://twitter.com/Kelly_Kundinger/status/1700674859099897893 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:43, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

Reports I read say something quite the opposite. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:50, September 10, 2023 (EDT)

‘You Lost Me’: Iowa Republicans Tell MSNBC Trump Has ‘Too Much Baggage’ – DeSantis, Others Can Still Catch Him

"MSNBC’s Allie Raffa was in Iowa on Saturday and spoke to GOP voters as the 2024 Republican presidential candidates converged on the state in hopes of wooing primary support.

Donald Trump has strong support in the state but it is not absolute, as was noticeable in his arrival at a college football game on Saturday. Raffa spoke to Republican voters supporting other primary candidates such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, and told host Yasmin Vossoughian on Saturday that those Iowans believe Trump can be caught in the primary race.

“We spoke with quite a few Iowa Republican voters before they all started sort of flocking to the stadium here for this game,” said Raffa. “And sort of the gist we got from voters on the ground here, the majority of them had told us that they see potential in other GOP candidates besides Trump.” https://www.mediaite.com/tv/you-lost-me-iowa-republicans-tell-msnbc-trump-has-too-much-baggage-desantis-others-can-still-catch-him/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:55, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Continued: "Raffa then showed clips from two of those interviews. The first, with a woman who voted for Trump twice but said that he lost her vote because he is unable to admit when he is wrong, and that his legal issues are a big problem for a potential president. She is instead going to caucus for DeSantis, who actually brings “tangible plans” to the table, she told Raffa.

“I feel that he has too much baggage with his legal battles. And as our country is facing a lot of problems, we need to unify. And I feel like with him, there’s going to be a lot of fighting. He never even once said, you know, ‘yes, I did wrong. Yes, maybe I could have done this better.’ It was always, no, I never did anything wrong. I’m always right. And that to me was like, I’m sorry you lost me.” NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:36, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

MSNBC. Wow. Now that's news. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:02, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Gov DeSantis statement on 9/11

Gov De Santis:

"As President, I will demand from each agency that they provide a detailed justification for every remaining redaction, and decide, in the interests of transparency, whether the public interest outweighs any potential harm in disclosure before making declassification and public release decisions. I will end the federal government's decades-long abuse of the classification system and will strive to be the most transparent administration in U.S. history.

“Finally, I join in support of the Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act introduced in Congress to close loopholes that prevent victims' families from holding foreign sponsors of terrorism accountable. I supported the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act in Congress, which was a crucial step forward. The Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act will help realize its full intent so the families can get justice and answers.

“We have shown in Florida that we can rise to the occasion to provide those who lost their lives on 9/11 the respect they deserve. I was proud to sign a measure into law in Florida earlier this year that designates September 11 as “9/11 Heroes’ Day” and requires history education regarding the significance of that day, including remembering the sacrifice of military personnel, government employees, civilians, and emergency responders who were killed, wounded, or suffered sickness due to the terrorist attacks.

“The pain of 9/11 endures for these families and all of us who remember that day, and its history must be taught for generations to come. Our work is not done until we have fully brought to light all the details surrounding the attacks, and those responsible are held accountable. I will not rest until both are fully achieved. We Must Never Forget.”

https://rondesantis.com/press-releases/ron-desantis-statement-on-meeting-with-9-11-families/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:54, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis Fabricated GOP Debate Story About Meeting an “Angel Mom”, Falsely Claims Gold Star Mother’s Son Died From Taking Drugs Laced With Fentanyl

[9] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:48, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Laura Loomer. Bwahahahaha. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:14, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Boom! An Amazing 70+ Faith Leaders endorse Pro-Life Governor Ron De Santis - gonna have a HUGE Impact on the Polls

"Source: https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/14/exclusive-desantis-faith-leaders-early-states/ EXCLUSIVE: DeSantis To Announce Endorsements From Over 70 Faith Leaders In Early States

“As a husband and father, Ron DeSantis is a man of faith and as a leader, he’s shown his resolve in defending religious liberty. I am excited to join this Faith and Family coalition and support Ron DeSantis for president because I know he will execute the same strong leadership in the White House as he’s done in Florida: protecting life, defending our right to worship, and defending religious liberties,” Pastor and Iowa State Rep. Jon Dunwell said in a statement.

Here Is A [Partial] List Of Endorsements:

Iowa Dale Akkerman, Development Director at Timothy Christian School (Grundy) Pastor Bryan Anderson, Tabernacle Baptist Church (Lyon) Pastor Gary Axtell, Grace Baptist Church (Madison) Kathleen Banowetz, Head of Prayer Team (Linn) Pastor Joseph Brown, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington) Pastor David Bush, Fit for the King Ministry (Polk) Pastor Mark Cannon, Hope Baptist Church (Scott) Pastor Brad Cranston, Iowa Baptists for Biblical Values (Des Moines) Pastor Rick David (Linn) Pastor Mark Doland, Church of Christ (Tama) Gwendy Doland, Youth and Women’s Small Group Leader at New Hope Christian Church (Tama) Pastor & Representative Jon Dunwell (Jasper) Pastor Kirk Evans, Indianola Church of Christ (Warren) Pastor Lance Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan) Janice Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan) Evangelist Caleb Garraway, Remnant Ministries (Washington) Senator Jesse Green, Bible Class Teacher at Trinity Lutheran (Boone) Pastor Michael Griswold, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington) Minister Matthew Haynie, Ogden Church of Christ (Boone) Pastor Jessten Heimer, Trinity Lutheran Church and School (Boone) Pastor Jeremy Higgins, Calvary Community Church (Linn) Brooke Higgins, Women’s Ministry Teacher at Calvary Community Church (Linn) Pastor Abe Koehn, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington) Tom Law, Calvary Community Church (Linn) Pastor Matt Magee, Oak Grove Church (Benton) Pastor Ed Matthews, Bible Baptist Church (Wapello) Pastor Harerimana Nshoreyingabo, Redeemed Fellowship Center (Polk) Pastor Alfonso Perez, Miracle Life Family Church (Polk) Pastor Marcial Perez, New Dawn Ministries (Polk) Pastor Terry Pollard, Eastside Church of Nazarene (Polk) Sean Sanford, Youth Leader and Small Group Leader (Linn) Pastor Joyce Schmidt, St. Olaf Lutheran Church (Humboldt) Pastor Scott Sokol (Hancock) Pastor John Vermeer, Doon United Reformed Church (Lyon) Matt Wells, Lay Leader at Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington) Reverend Shane Wilson, Iglesia Espiritu y Verdad (Polk) ... NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:54, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Ron DeSantis trails Donald Trump by 50 points in latest Quinnipiac national poll:

“	Another post-Labor Day poll says the Governor is losing ground. Another day, another tough poll for the Ron DeSantis presidential campaign. The latest from Quinnipiac shows the Florida Governor far behind former President Donald Trump. In perhaps the most discouraging news, DeSantis has fallen 11 points further behind Trump than his August number. Trump is now at 62% support, 5 points up from the previous month. DeSantis, now at 12% support, is 6 points off the August mark. No other candidate has more than 6% support. In concerning news for those who seek a Trump alternative, most of the former President’s support seems to be locked in. “Among those voters supporting Trump in the Republican primary, 68% say they are firmly set on Trump no matter what happens leading up to the Republican Primary, while 29% say they might change their candidate choice depending on what happens leading up to the Republican Primary,” the polling memo asserts, suggesting that 42% of total respondents won’t budge. The survey, conducted from Sept. 7 through Sept. 11, included 728 Republican and Republican-leaning voters with a margin of error of +/- 3.6 percentage points. It is the latest post-Labor Day survey to show an increasingly noncompetitive race. In a new TIPP Insights survey, Trump leads DeSantis 60% to 11%. Meanwhile, the former President continues to troll DeSantis for his poll numbers on Truth Social. “Is it that he is a not very skilled politician, or perhaps his not so long ago fight against Farmers, Social Security, and MediCare??? Or maybe it’s the lack of loyalty to the man who took the DeSanctus failing campaign, and through a strong Endorsement, got him elected. Whatever it is, few have ever witnessed a drop so fast and so severe,” Trump posted Wednesday. “It’s a beautiful thing, isn’t it?”	”
—Florida Politics, Sep. 13, 2023

—LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Thursday, 16:56, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Boom! DeSantis Drops to Fourth Place in South Carolina

[10] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:44, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Boom! DeSantis Skips Work on His Birthday To Fundraise With Mitt Romney and Bush Family Political Donors

[11] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:55, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis calls out the Left's Attacks on Religious Liberty

DeSantis calls out the Left's attacks on religious liberty: "The minute you get outside that church they think you need to bow down and bend the knee to their agenda. That's not religious freedom. That is not what our founding fathers fought for and established."

[Video in the link] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1702781306986176948 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:39, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Why Ron Desantis? His Conservative Accomplishments

From: https://twitter.com/derekeclipse55/status/1702897800244044242

Here’s A Small List Of A Couple Accomplishments: -Graduated Yale University and Harvard University

-Joined US Navy In 2004

-Was Promoted To Lieutenant Before Serving As Legal Advisor To Seal Team One

-Was Stationed At Joint Task Force Guantanamo In 2006

-Deployed To Iraq In 2007

-Us Attorney General Appointed Desantis To Serve As Special Assistant US Attorney At US Attorney’s Office In Middle District Of Florida When He Returned

-Elected To Congress In 2012 And Reelected In 2014 And 2016

-Became A Founding Member Of Freedom Caucus

-Highest Ever K-12 Public School Funding With $21.8 Billion In State/Local Funding

-Created Family Empowerment Scholarship Program

-Invested Over $147 Million In Funding For The Gardiner Scholarship

-Secured Over $625 Million For Everglades Restoration And Protection Of Vital Water Resources

-Created Blue-Green Algae Task Force

-Established Office Of Environmental Accountability And Transparency And Office Of Resilience And Coastal Protection

-Worked To Develop Plan For Safe And Affordable Importation Of Prescription Drugs From Canada

-Signed Patient Savings Act Into Law

-In 2022, Unemployment Continued To Decline, Dropping To 2.6% - The Lowest Among The Nation’s 10 Large States, And 1.1% Lower Than The Nation’s

-Exceeded National Job Growth Rate For 20th Consecutive Month In November, 2022

-Following The Pandemic, Desantis Oversaw Economic Growth And Record Budget Surplus In State

-Encouraged Parental Rights In Education Act, In Which Signed Into Law"

[among many others - NX]NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:10, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, please: don't in every single Main Page talk post lazily paste a long text block. At the very least, if you don't want to summarize the main points, kindly put the copy/pasted text under <small></small> so less space is taken up, seeing that you especially are plastering content written not by you. Also, that long string of text isn't formatted properly in the context of how the end result is "intended" to be structured, seeing that Twitter text format differs greatly from wiki code. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 21:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, and the "Graduated Yale University and Harvard University-Joined US Navy In 2004-Was Promoted...etc" belongs in the Template/Officeholder on his bio page, not here. And if it's already in his bio page, we especially don't need it here. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

As much as I vociferously oppose with you on other issues, I concur on this very specific point. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

You need to separate the two hats I wear - three actually. (1) An Administrator and Moderator of the site; (2) a content contributor; (3) a user who sometimes expresses personal opinions and points of view in discussions. It's not always easy to separate functions, but comes with practice. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:33, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

I've corrected the formatting. This is Conservapedia and Governor Ron DeSantis' Conservative Accomplishments are highly relevant to whether he is a True Conservative or not (as some allege/claim that he isn't), and to current events given this is primary season. I've spoken of some of these accomplishments of his myself, and some of them are compiled by others, in which case I always credit the source. Don't shoot the messenger, if you think he doesn't have some of these accomplishments, name them, and name the Conservative Candidate you think is better. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:38, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

The problem isn't in the generic fact that you're covering issues. The problem is how you do it; you are spamming long quotes by other people instead of at least summarizing and condensing it in your own words. I'm just politely asking that you refrain from the habit of copy/pasting long text blocks that repetitively; it may be easy and saves time, though it's objectively a mediocre habit for a conservative wiki. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Accomplishments are accomplishments. They are brute facts, and I have summarized it in my own words before, DeSantis running Record Budget Surpluses for e.g. It's why some Conservative Groups give him a near 100% Conservative Rating based on his Record. And I even put it in small tags now that you asked. Now, no more distractions to meaningless things; talk about the issues, or I'm out. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:07, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, I appreciate it, NishantXavier. It's not that there's anything wrong with pointing out facts; it's better to avoid taking up excessive space with directly pasted quotes. On the issue of DeSantis's record, yes, I agree that he has a solidly conservative slate of accomplishments. His record on racial issues is solid as well, as he's not afraid to dismantle the racist woke agenda, and he's signed legislation to punish antisemitic paramilitary anarchist groups. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Accomplishments go in the bio article. However, I would issue a caveat against campaign promises, or at least do it selectively. They tend to boomerang in a couple of years. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, he's a very Pro-Israel Governor too. He'll be a Good President imo. Let's see how it goes. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:30, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

About the issue of Israel, I'm increasingly skeptical of the Zionist side. While the anti-Zionist is filled with all sorts of socialist antisemites like neo-Nazis and like-minded ultrawoke college students rallying behind Palestinian national liberation movements, that doesn't mean the pro-Israel side is quite innocent. According to Prof. Walter J. Veith, Benjamin Netanyahu is a high-ranking Freemason. It appears that the creation of the modern state of Israel is all part of a deception game concurrent with Futurist theology created by Jesuit propagandist Francisco Ribera in an active scheme to subvert Protestants away from Historicist eschatology that implicated the Papacy as the Antichrist or Whore of Babylon. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:34, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Recommendation: Start the Ron DeSantis 2024 presidential campaign page. You can be the page manager right through the presential transition. If you need help, look at some previous successful and unsuccessful candidate's pages as a model. You can add all the daily stuff you find there rather than here (try to edit it down somewhat, cause the more successful he becomes the more space you'll have to edit and reclaim later).

And if the FBI starts spying on his campaign to sabotage it, you'll have a contemporaneous record to work with (the Obama DOJ-NSD even began plotting to sabotage Trump a month before he came down the escalator to announce his candidacy in June 2015). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:48, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

I'm barely interested in the Republican presidential campaigns. The candidates are either corrupt establishment-owned globalist shills or antichrists. At the end of the day, the thesis/antithesis deception is only further perpetuated. If a globalist wins, the intent is to continue sowing misery and anger so eventually the populist "antithesis" rides the wave of backlash to political power. If Trump wins in 2024, perhaps we're closer to the end than I anticipated. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:50, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Oh no, I was talking to Nishant. He should be CP's point man on covering DeSantis, however long DeSantis lasts, through the primaries, up to the convention, up to the general election and into the transition. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:54, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Ok, Rob, I took your suggestion. The page is up: https://www.conservapedia.com/Ron_DeSantis_2024_presidential_campaign I only highlighted two unique accomplishments for now, (1) 6 week Heartbeat Bill, (2) Record of Military Service. I will add more as the Campaign goes on.

A Christian Conservative who really lives his Faith can be trusted with decency, honesty, integrity etc. DeSantis is that. That's my opinion. We will see. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:12, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

A reminder of where Polls were roughly a year ago

From Politico, in Nov 2022: "According to the polling memo, which is based on survey data conducted Nov. 11-13, DeSantis leads Trump by 11 percentage points in Iowa and by 15 points in New Hampshire. Those numbers represent an improvement for DeSantis since August, when previous Club for Growth’s polling found Trump with a 15-point lead in Iowa, while the two were tied in New Hampshire.

The memo also says that DeSantis leads Trump by 26 points in Florida and 20 points in Georgia. In August, DeSantis led Trump by 7 percent in Florida and 6 percent in Georgia. The polls, conducted by Republican firm WPA Intelligence, surveyed likely GOP voters."

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/14/club-for-growth-steps-trump-relaunch-desantis-00066820

Polls change. Character and Integrity do not change. Records, like Pro-Life and Anti-Woke and Budget/Fiscal Records, do not change. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King}

Yeah, DeSantis is much more pro-life than Trump is. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed. 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Bill, for e.g. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:29, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, DeSantis was fierce in his advocacy for unborn children. Shame to see the Republicans less solidly prioritizing of the pro-life issue under Trump—at a Republican convention (in Florida, I believe) several years back, most participants in a poll considered immigration far more important, with a very low percentage ranking abortion as a priority issue to emphasize. The socialist wing of the party under Trump is too busy appeasing ethnonationalists than fighting for the right to life. Trump says the abortion issue should be downplayed to win votes. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 22:37, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yes. "If Abortion is not Wrong, Nothing is Wrong" ~ St. Mother Theresa of Calcutta. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:15, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Otherwise-solid Candace Owens mistakenly says: "Resume doesn't mean anything" (about DeSantis). It does

Candace Owens, who is otherwise solid, implicitly acknowledging DeSantis has a Great Resume, says an "it factor", and "working a crowd" are allegedly more important than having a Great Record and actual Conservative Governance. While I disagree, it still gives a fascinating insight into the thinking of the average Trump voter. The person below thinks, and I agree, more and more will gravitate to DeSantis in the next few months. From: https://twitter.com/Unfilteredboss1/status/1703236752146874532

[Video in the link]

"PBD: DeSantis has an incredible resume.

Owens: Resume doesn't mean anything. You gotta have the it factor and know how to work a crowd.

So much to unpack here. First of all if working a crowd is more important to voters than an actual incredible and flawless resume, then our country is truly in trouble. Secondly, 2023 Trump is not 2015 Trump. He is a shell of himself. A low energy, bitter old man with declining mental health who can't stop talking about the past.

Lastly, what makes DeSantis exceptional is his work ethic, his uncompromising resolve, and his intense discipline and devotion to the mission. In times like these, that is what Americans will gravitate to." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:28, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Election news

GOP candidates scramble to stay on the debate stage

GOP stage may be down to 4 Candidates by 3rd Debate: DeSantis, Haley, Pence, Ramaswamy.

""A 5 percent threshold for the yet-to-be-announced future debates, for instance, would imperil both Scott and Christie." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/14/gop-debate-stage-losers-00115971 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

...so at the end of the day, the infighting will cost all of them the nomination, which goes to the oversized tangerine of Mar-a-Lago. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:44, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Dave Rubin with 1.4 MN Followers: Trumps endless lies are catching up to him

A DeSantis revolution is likely beginning on Twitter. Here is Dave Rubin: "The great work of @megynkelly exposed three things:

Trumps endless lies are catching up to him.

People are becoming less afraid to call him out.

His pundit cheerleaders who are all silent today are frauds.

Patience, everyone!" https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1702415508711084312 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:30, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

This is the gay married guy, isn't it? Yah, that's credible on the subject of honesty. Somebody who lies to himself on what marriages is. Sounds like a typical DeSantis supporter. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:36, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

!.4 mn followers, huh? Then you wonder why the planet and the conservative movement are so screwed up. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:39, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Meanwhile, you're a shill for Commuputinism. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:43, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

Meanwhile, you're the only one who knows what you're talking about. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:13, September 14, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis and Trump on Covid Vaccines

"“Donald Trump, he’s basically saying he did everything was right. And I think that means you should understand he would do the same thing all over again, if put in that position, and that would be disastrous for our country,” DeSantis said.

On the campaign trail, DeSantis has regularly criticized Trump for elevating Fauci during the pandemic, calling the presidential commendation award a “gut punch” and arguing he should have been fired.

“Clearly, Dr. Fauci should have been fired. He caused a lot of damage. And not only was he not fired, Donald Trump gave Fauci a presidential commendation, on January 19, 2021, his last day in office,” DeSantis said at an event in Coralville, Iowa in August. “I think that that was a gut punch.”

DeSantis’ administration on Wednesday advised people younger than 65 against getting the new Covid-19 shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, contradicting federal health officials’ guidance."

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/14/politics/desantis-trump-fauci-commendation-covid/index.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:45, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Megyn Kelly and Trump - Interview

https://youtu.be/cJn0c7J9cjA NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:54, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

It's already posted on MPR. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:21, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Perhaps you have difficulty understanding CP's editorial stance: CP is in the pro-Trump camp, as of now. The DeSantis news (or Vivek or Nikki) doesn't really make it to MPR, unless it's real bad. It's open season on Pence.

Now, that's not to say CP's position can't change, barring assassination or some other such circumstance. But spamming this page with the latest DeSantis news, most of which is poorly written propaganda, isn't really going to persuade anyone right now. It's best keeping at the Community Portal, should anything worthwhile or of interest occur. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:26, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, I'm aware the editorial stance of the site is pro-Trump. But new information is coming to light every day, including for e.g. DeSantis' and Trump's contrasting answers on the Woke Trans Issue in that Megyn Kelly interview. Many people who were pro-Cruz last time around in the primary became pro-Trump in the general, and I think something similar will happen this time. Wait and watch. Only this time, I daresay the consensus would be around DeSantis. People will read and watch these interviews and statements of the Candidates and make up their minds. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:39, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, ok. If you feel the transgender issue is so important, please read this article and tell me what you think. Trans psycho threatens to murder critics of Ukraine war. Here's the clip (40 sec). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:26, September 15, 2023 (EDT)

Well, Anti-Woke Conservatives are not responsible for whatever one psychopath says. There was that Trans Terrorist who murdered Christian Children. Does that mean we Anti-Woke Conservatives are in favor of that? Of course not. We are opposed to Child Genital Mutilation. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:35, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yes they are. They are paying Sarah Ashton-Cirillo's salary (as well as the terrorist assassins of the Ukrainian Security Service. Failing to speak out is moral cowardice. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:47, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Who is failing to speak out? I already condemned that one extremist. Why do you refuse to condemn Putin's extremism that, at the height of the War, caused around 10 MN Ukrainians to suffer displacement from their homes, both within and outside Ukraine? Since most Ukrainians are Christians (around 90%) Putin is responsible for more Christians having to flee their homes these past 1.5 years than just about anyone. If you think that dubious distinction is worth something or worth celebrating, like his new found dubious distinction of celebrating North Korea, the #1 Nation in the Persecution of Christians according to Open Doors, go for it. I stand with traditional Raeganite Peace through Strength. You were once strong on the CCP, Rob, but you've been slipping on that too sadly. Let Putin leave Ukraine and end the War. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:45, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Don't think I'm ignoring you or don't have an answer for your list of concerns. I'm presently looking right now for video clip of a woman/girl in Ukraine who was interrogated by the Ukrainian gestapo because all the contacts on her phone had their numbers changed and forwarded to Russia. Russia has accepted more Ukrainian refugees than any country in the world. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:35, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder: Trump PAC has spent more than $ 100 MN since Last Year including on Legal Fees

Seems like a waste of his donors' money. Can this really be sustained? Doubtful.

"Former President Donald J. Trump’s political action committee, which began last year with $105 million, now has less than $4 million left in its account after paying tens of millions of dollars in legal fees for Mr. Trump and his associates."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/trump-pac-filing.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

A $100 million is nothing. To put on a Trump rally is about $10 million. That's how Trump campaigns and spends his money. No other candidate really does that. And he puts on more than 10 rallies a year. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:16, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Trump: DeSantis 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Bill - an objective Conservative Victory - allegedly "a terrible mistake"

What say you, Trump supporters? Still think the man who once described himself as "pro-choice in every respect" doesn't retain some residuals of his earlier pro-choice position? Frankly, he's mistaken. DeSantis didn't make "a terrible mistake". Trump just did.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1703412453839622374 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:47, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

With the Dobbs decision, abortion is no longer a federal issue. For a guy running for governor of Florida? Yes, it is a campaign issue; for a guy running for president? No, it is not.

Nice try, though. Voters are confused enough without us adding to their confusion. Our task is untangle that confusion. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Abortion in the military is a remaining federal issue; now the movement to abolish capital punishment in the states has gained traction, but not in the federal government. There is somewhat of a parallel there. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:20, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Trump is selling Pro-Lifers out. I doubt this will play well in Iowa which, like Florida, has a 6 week bill: "if a heartbeat is detected, the baby is protected". HeartBeat Bills have saved countless lives. It's the duty of a Pro-Life President at least to express moral support for such Pro-Life Bills and approve, commend and praise them, as a President DeSantis will do, but Trump did not. I know some Pro-Lifers who are calling this disqualifying, including former Trump supporters. Bad. At a minimum, a 15 week federal abortion ban and encouragement of 6 week abortion bans at the state level can and should be rightly expected from a so-called Pro-Life President. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:22, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

The law as it exists now is, a woman in a state with strict abortion laws can join the military and get a free, taxpayer funded abortion. This more an issue at the Congressional level. That's what we need to focus on educating voters about. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Here's the danger: if we try to give the impression that voting for president makes a difference or solves the problems in abortion, essentially telling people to ignore who's running for state house or state senate cause the President will take care of the problem, that backfires - as it did for 50 years.

We finally got SCOTUS stacked to overturn Roe v. Wade; the rules of the game have changed. Now we need a focus on state and federal legislators, not the Executive so much as has been the habit for 50 years. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:31, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

If you want to thank anyone for overturning Roe v. Wade, thank liberal communist Democrat scumbag Leader Harry Reid. He's the guy who changed the rules in the Senate to appoint federal judges with a simple 51 vote majority. That untangled the Gordian Knot that existed for half a century. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:36, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

It was an historical fluke that made it possible, and Glitch McConnell - give him credit - he seized upon it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:39, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

The problem with DeSantis remains: every indication is that he's part of the controlled opposition, the uniparty, a deep stater. And the more he tries, the more he gets exposed. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:48, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

IOWs, the Heart Beat bill issue at the Presidential level, is a deceptive, bogus issue.

There are way more important Presidential issues that need to be focused on, for example taxpayer-funded Nazis. Discussion of Heart Beat bills is a deliberate distraction from actual issues only a president can deal with. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

We need 2 Terms of a President DeSantis, he will undo all the damage done by Biden and Obama, and turn the Courts in a Conservative Direction, perhaps forever. That's how you win the Culture War once and for all, not drag it on for 50 years more. Then, there are other reforms needed at the federal and state level, and those can be done in time. I repeat: 15 week minimum at federal level, encouragement of 6 week Heartbeat Bills from the Presidential Pulpit. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:54, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis is faithful to his Conservative Base. Trump sells out in order to be a people-pleaser and to get some more Dem chums/friends.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

The culture wars are a bottom-up issue, fought out in each individual's heart. Not top down. (In this sense, LT has somewhat of a grasp). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:58, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

The fact that the pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation to further its ends (which are honorable by all means) demonstrates its failures at the individual level. They failed to bring the new generation into repentance and out of the pagan ritual of sacrificing children to Moloch, and then expect the federal government to step in and fix the cultural problem they bungled. Instead of sufficiently convincing everyday people in their daily lives that unborn children are valuable individual human lives, and having failed to raise children to be sufficiently conscientiously moral people, they start scrambling upon finding out that society is not as godly as they hoped.

What can I say at the end of the day? The foremost leaders failed—they ran ridiculously weak campaigns. Had they truly had the zeal to fight for unborn life, they would've continued, without apology and in righteous anger, compared abortion providers to KKK mobs and Nazis, as many have done. They would've continued to unconditionally castigate the pro-abortion movement as nothing more than a low-grade mob of occultist child-sacrificing bums no better than Nazis.

It is my opinion that the leaders of the "conservative movement" have failed the average, devoted moral, socially conservative Christian on purpose—they knew how incompetent they were, and failed on purpose because they serve a higher order that is not of God but of their father the devil. I already explained the thesis/antithesis deception to you guys; try figuring out the puzzle here! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Huh? "pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation". Nishant is the only talking such stuff. I can't think of single legislator seriously pushing any federal legislation. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} See Nishant, you even got LT confused now. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:15, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, to my admission, perhaps I typed too quickly and shouldn't have added "federal" in there. My emphasis is that the pro-life movement is focusing heavily on legislative action to complete what they miserably failed. Now, will you at least address my at-large point as well instead of gleefully harping on a single mistake I made? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Trump needs to give his heart to God. He needs contrition and humility and needs to say: "I'm sorry, Lord Jesus, I've sinned, by denying that Your unborn babies with beating hearts are human beings entitled to all human rights and legal protection".

Those with born again and regenerate hearts who know that Truth, and even some Secular Pro-Lifers who do, have every right to expect a Government as Good as the People, and a Pro-Life President who shares their Conservative Pro-Life Values, not "pro choice in every respect". NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, Trump is too arrogant to confess his sins and obtain a genuine heart of righteousness. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

How do you know? Are you God? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthew 7:20) Also, if you have the spirit of prophecy, which is the testimony of Jesus (Rev. 19:10), you should be able to gradually see clearly the larger game here. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Sunday, 12:19, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Simon, I have somewhat to say unto you... Simon, by her fruits, knew what manner of woman she was. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

Ages of Supreme Court Justices: Conservative Justices nearing retirement, a 2 Term President could appoint 2 or 3, perhaps 4

Here are the ages of the Supreme Court Justice. Important to watch. Both Sotomayor and Roberts will cross 75 by 2032, Thomas and Alito 80.

"What are the ages of Supreme Court justices in 2023? From oldest to youngest, the ages of the current Supreme Court justices are:

Justice Thomas, 75 Justice Alito, 73 Justice Sotomayor, 69 Chief Justice Roberts, 68 Justice Kagan, 63 Justice Kavanaugh, 58 Justice Gorsuch, 55 Justice Jackson, 52 Justice Barrett, 51"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/10/how-many-justices-supreme-court-list-justices-2023/10796688002/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:59, September 17, 2023 (EDT)

It's not that easy. A president can't appoint who he wants. He can only appoint who the Senate will accept. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:21, September 17, 2023 (EDT)