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Western liberals are losing their minds over new president of Georgia

Unlike Romania, it seems the globalists liberals lost their influence in Georgia to push their globohomo agenda and turning Georgia to be scapegoat for NATO against. Mainstream western media even claim that new president Mikheil Kavelashvili that he is anti-West even though that he sympathize with western leaders such Trump, Victor Orban and Recep Erdogan

Georgian lawmakers elect far-right, anti-west hardliner as new president

--Alex Kosh (talk) 21:21, December 16, 2024 (EST)

You win, Alex. We're going with your headline. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Question: Didn't Donald J. Trump make NATO stronger by getting a large percentage of the delinquent members to pay 2% which they are required to do if they are NATO members? See: Trump’s stand on payments helped make Nato stronger, says Grant Shapps, The Telegraph, 2024

Second question: Did Donald Trump say the following: "“If they [allies] are paying their bills, and if I think they are treating us fairly, the answer is: absolutely, I will stay with NATO.”?[3]

Third question: Did Russia decriminalize homosexuality in 1993 which made male-to-male sexual relations legal in Russia?[4]

Fourth question: Are the two most prominent cities of Russia Moscow and St. Petersburg which are cities that have gay clubs/bars? (Hint: Central Station is one of several gay club/bar establishments which have gay clubs/bars in Russia)Conservative (talk) 21:35, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Question number 1: is purpose of NATO turn countries that encountered by Russia to be scapegoat against Russia. What the purpose of antagonizing Russia after 1991?

Question number 2: isnt most NATO countries refusing to pay their fair share of their Defense, arnt they abusing American taxpayers by that?

Question number 3: which country who arnt able to define what the woman, Russia or Western countries?

Question number 4: which countries that allowing and pushing for homosexual marriage, letting children to be raised by 2 dads or 2 moms instead of healthy traditional family - Unsigned User: Alex Kosh

Maybe Russia isnt perfect, but with demonizing the whole country nobody will benefited from that --Alex Kosh (talk) 21:53, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Lionizing Russia and pretending it has no faults. Is this rational or irrational? Conservative (talk) 21:57, December 16, 2024 (EST)

It seems you didnt read my last line, I am not Russian apologist like Rob, but I think there is no benefit with antagonizing Russia that begun since 1991, we have more in common with Russia than we have with countries such as Turkey, but we are still antagonizing for some reason --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:08, December 16, 2024 (EST)

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Alex Kosh, you are an asset to Conservapedia. Keep up the good work. Conservative (talk) 22:10, December 16, 2024 (EST)

If memory serves and I think it does, post Trump complaining about NATO as far as some members being delinquent, the majority of NATO members now pay their 2%. And some NATO members pay more than 2% now such as Poland. Conservative (talk) 22:13, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Alex Kosh, Which countries in the Nato alliance are paying their fair share on defence?, July 2024. Conservative (talk) 22:15, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Alex Kosh, about 40% of Russians are neutral/friendly relating to their views on homosexuality.[5] In the USA, acceptance of homosexuality recently declined in the USA according to Gallup (64%, down from 71%, say same-sex relations are morally acceptable).[6]

While many do not wish the tares and wheat to both occupy the world now, God gives us a freewill which some people in all of the nations abuse. Unfortunately, liberty can turn into licentiousness. Conservative (talk) 22:22, December 16, 2024 (EST)

All the contemporary Christian nations which have the most missionaries sent out come from free nations and not authoritarian/totalitarian nations. God likes freedom and that is why Jesus came to earth. Jesus freed Christians from the bondage of sin. Conservative (talk) 22:31, December 16, 2024 (EST)

As far as your point about marriage, Russia has the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world and Vladimir Putin is a divorced man. Conservative (talk) 22:46, December 16, 2024 (EST)

If you are seeing all that in Russia, so why you arnt seeing that with countries that supposed to be "America allies"? Even though that Russia is far better than most West European countries who turned against Christ (Germany, France, UK and all Scandinavia) and they even hate Americans and make fun on America in their SM, I never seen Russian make fun of America like they did. Maybe Wokeism isnt gaining popular in America, but that different in Europe, even in most historical conservative countries such as Spain, Ireland and Greece who legalized gay marriage last year --Alex Kosh (talk) 23:49, December 16, 2024 (EST)

In terms of church attendance, let's take a look at France which is one of the most secular regions of Western Europe due to the French Revolution, etc. France is largely a Catholic country Christianity wise. 29% of the population identifies as Catholic.[7] French Catholics: Only 12% of Catholics in France attend church weekly, and most attend for holidays and special events.[8]

Now let's take a look at Russia as far as church attendance. Only 12% of Russians attend church at least once a month. Only 6% of the population and 43% of believers go to church several times a month.[9]

As far as the USA, it probably has the highest rate of church attendance among developed countries. 32% of U.S. adults reported attending church, synagogue, mosque, or temple in the past seven days.[10]

The African country of Kenya,has a lower homosexuality rate than Russia, but Conservapedia doesn't attempt to make Kenya the savior nation of the world nor does it praise its president incessantly. Conservative (talk) 00:05, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, you said that you never have seen Russia make fun of the USA as much as Europeans. Whether that is accurate or not, I do not know, but I will say that Putin is decidedly anti-Western and anti-Westernism is popular in Russia. Furthermore, Melania Trump's nude photos aired on Russian state TV after Donald's victory. By the way, Melanie Trump is an immigrant from Slovenia, which like Russia, is a Slavic country. Melania became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2006 at the age of 36.[11]. Conservative (talk) 00:45, December 17, 2024 (EST)

"There are also plenty of 'gay-friendly' clubs and same sex nights in Moscow and St Petersburg. Women only nights in the capital are becoming increasingly popular. Venues will often have a double life turning from an everyday establishment by day into something quite different after dark. This is how it works in Russia."[12]

And as I noted above, Moscow and St. Peterburg are the most influential cities in Russia. Conservative (talk) 01:19, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So you're a retard. You're never gonna convince any of us you are normal. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:59, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Ad hominems (Personal attacks) are a logical fallacy and no substitute for sound argumentation and facts/evidence. I would get some coaching from User: Alex Kosh who has an ability to form actual arguments. User: SamHB and User: AugustO could do this as well and they appear on the website once in a while. Maybe you can get some coaching from them as well. Conservative (talk) 02:05, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. I'll remember that. Now, let's not girly gossip about editors. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:20, December 17, 2024 (EST)

All what you said is irrelevant, even blinds and deafs know that West is far more woke than Russia. And Russia is trying to preserve their culture from influence of Klaus Schwab and George Soros in country that have conservative Christians and huge conservative muslims. Even though Christians in Russia faced much worse persecution than any country in history but they are far better than any country in Europe and they are better than Greeks, you cant convince me otherwise --Alex Kosh (talk) 02:22, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Question: Is Russia known for a history of Christian evangelism as far as the Great Commission via sending out missionaries throughout the world? No, it is not. This is true of Western nations - including the USA.[13] Show me a contemporary authoritarian and corrupt regime and I will show you a nation which does not have an abundance of missionaries being sent throughout the world.

Russia has the highest rate of alcoholism in the world and an AIDS epidemic so severe that it does not have enough AIDS medication to treat patients. The Bible says that drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:10). Conservative (talk) 02:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Oh, the Urals to Kamchtka is not part of the world. Ok. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:50, December 17, 2024 (EST)

The Urals (mainly in Russia) are a part of the Russian Federation. That is a big fail. Show me that the Russian Federation is sending out a lot of missionaries into the world. Russia is definitely not in the same league as the USA as far as sending out missionaries into the world. Conservative (talk) 02:53, December 17, 2024 (EST)

"The United States sends out more missionaries than any other country, sending out more than 127,000 missionaries each year."[14] You have been checkmated User: Rob "Ivan" Smith. By the way, the American Bobby Fischer was the greatest chess player that ever lived. And he was definitely not a Russian! Conservative (talk) 03:00, December 17, 2024 (EST)

It seems what user Rob said about you is true, you are making more irrelevant points, and unfortunately you are only considering Evangelicals as real Christians. I dont know if the founders of this website who are Catholics would like what you said? No country in history have persecuted Christians more than Russia during Soviet era, however they preserved their faith more than any country in Europe, that only thing is enough to pay respect to Christians in Russia --Alex Kosh (talk) 03:18, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, Russia played a key role in the Soviet Union's history - a history which includes persecuting Polish Christians and other Christians throughout the former Soviet Union. In addition, the Russians have blown up and destroyed many Ukrainian churches. "Almost 48% (142 sites) of all 297 Christian sites that got fully or partially ruined by the Russian attack belong to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC). The largest number of damaged religious sites are in Donetsk (75) and Luhansk (59) regions followed by Kyiv (43) and Kharkiv (38) regions." - 11 months of Russia’s full-scale attack: 307 religious sites ruined in Ukraine.

Alex, evangelical Christians are not the only Christians in the USA sending out missionaries.

Next, I am baptised and confirmed Catholic who is a registered member of a local Catholic church. Today, I sent Andy Schlafly and User: NishantXavier an email indicating that I am joining the Knights of Columbus which is a Catholic fraternal organization. At the same time, I also attend Lutheran Churches. I prefer high church Christianity. Recently, I took the pictures for the Conservapedia Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church article (This type of Christianity is a form of high church Christianity). However, I like some things about low church Christian groups too (Many evangelical Christians attend low church Christianity type churches). Conservative (talk) 03:29, December 17, 2024 (EST)

You know, it's your contributions to this page that makes information here useless and not valid or viable for any readers of this page. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:56, December 17, 2024 (EST)

By the way, the claim you made directly above, doesn't have a lick of evidence. It's merely your opinion. Sad! I remain an logical arguments and evidence person and have a very low opinion of argument by mere assertion. Conservative (talk) 10:41, December 17, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, do you know that Conservapedia is on the World Wide Web and reaches beyond a Russian audience (80% of Russians get all their news from Russian state television.[15] See: Russian television excerpts - Russian imperialism), don't you? Conservative (talk) 04:03, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So if North Korea converted to Christianity, you would still blame them for persecution of Christians? You are making more irrelevant and ridiculous fallacies. Just know that Russia isnt all about Putin. Putin will not live forever, someone will succeed him one day. Demonizing all Russians like what you did will not get America nor West anything. Anyone come after Putin would still doesnt has good intentions toward West, if the West continued with their failed policies with Russia --Alex Kosh (talk) 04:20, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, please give me strong arguments based on evidence - not hypotheticals.

There are reports of North Koreans soldiers being killed in Ukraine[16], thanks to the Kremlin/Putin.

Alex, give me the names of two Russian heads of state who were not authoritarians.

Question: Does Russia have a history of imperialism? See: Russian imperialism and Russian imperialism. If not, please provide me strong evidence of this matter.

You provided zero proof that I have demonized all Russians. My user page quotes Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. I have a collection of Russian songs posted at Conservapedia.[17][18] Conservative (talk)

"Shortly after the Supreme Court ruling last year, gay bars in cities across Russia were similarly raided by police. Sporadic raids have reportedly persisted throughout the country since then." - A dozen Moscow clubgoers found guilty after anti-LGBTQ 'propaganda' raids - December 3, 2024

They were convicted of petty hooliganism. Moses was a lot tougher on homosexuals.

So now there is evidence that homosexual bars are in Russian cities outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Conservative (talk) 10:24, December 17, 2024 (EST)

See what I mean. The guy's just a sex obsessed troll who loves derailing discussions. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:14, December 17, 2024 (EST)

I see User:Conservative flooded the email list (again) with his obsession with gay sex. Wanna explain to the people of the world why you are so obsessed with gay sex? Thanks. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:26, December 17, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, you have aggressively and desperately tried to paint Russia as some kind of conservative, straight paradise - despite the fact that it is or has: gay clubs/bars; an AIDS epidemic; low and declining church attendance/membership; a currency that is falling in value; sky-high inflation; falling labor productivity that is much lower than the USA; big labor shortages; a demographic crisis; much lower innovation than the USA; a brain drain; a sewer system crisis; pothole filled roads that are ranked low internationally; deteriorating quality of its automobiles; a kleptocratic and authoritarian government; increasing risks of stagflation; an overdependence on the selling of oil that is facing falling availability due to higher extraction costs in the future; a failing state that cannot protect its borders; a military with logistical problems and other problems that is ranked behind the USA in strength that is struggling to beat a much smaller population in relation to itself in Ukraine; the highest alcoholism rate in the world; the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world with a divorced leader; a larger neo-nazi problem than Ukraine such as the neo-nazi Wagner Group leader; waning influence in the world as evidenced by the loss of strategic partners and key military bases such as in Syria; etc. etc. (See also: Decline of Russia and Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future).

Now you have publically made is clear that you are smarter than some Conservapedians and have dubbed yourself as being much more knowledgeable than others when it comes to world politics. And yet, you have repeatedly used logical fallacies and have repeatedly engaged in denialism. Now other Conservapedians, such as the owner of this website who had denied your repeated requests to censor my essays, recognize that Russia has significant, multiple problems and it is in decline. Of course that should come to no surprise to you given that the owner of the website wants the American flag as its logo and not the Russian flag. Well the long and short of it is that repetition is the mother of all learning so after a while, I have definitely noticed that your inflated view of Russia is now more realistic, but unfortunately still very unrealistic. And the vast majority of my fellow Conservapedians see this unfortunate mindset of yours. So I applied some additional repetition since there is a lot to keep track of in terms of Russia's decline.

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 15:19, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So now we should blow whole world with Russia because Russia have gay bars and because they are sending less missionaries than America. Thats your point of antagonizing Russia. If you really feeling that, you would be happy that Georgia rejected WEF/EU puppets who want to spread the homosexual agenda in their country --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:26, December 17, 2024 (EST)

The guy's just a troll. I don't know why User:Aschlafly forces all of us to be subjected to his obsession with gay sex, introducing gay bars in Moscow into what was supposed to be a discussion on the Republic of Georgia presidential election. He disrupts any and all discussions among editors like this, making it virtually impossible to coordinate editing activities. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:47, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Misrepresentation of polling data presented to the owner of the website, per source [1] with over 60% having disgusted, irritated, scared or cautious views toward homosexuals, one-third calm without any specific emotions, and only 4% friendly or interested. 4% "hard to say". There was no "neutrality" question asked.
You have to register an account to see the sources, for example if it was connected to the Open Society Foundations (likely) or other pro-western, pro-LGBT & Russophobic sources.

RobSmith, when the subject of Russia and the USA/West is brought up, you very frequently bring up the topic of homosexuality in the USA/West. As a result, I pointed out the prevalence of gay clubs/bars/saunas in Russia and how Russia decriminalized homosexuality in 1993. Additionally, I pointed out that about 40% of Russians have neutral/positive views on homosexuality and that Kenya and some Islamic/African countries had more negative views on homosexuality than Russia. Furthermore, I pointed out the related subject of the AIDS epidemic in Russia. In short, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I also relayed this information to Andy Schlafly and his view of Russia was altered. Now if you don't like this, go kick rocks because this means that you don't like reality and prefer denialism. Conservative (talk) 06:49, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Sorry, you are a bald-faced liar.

User:Conservative is obsessed with homosexuality. It is impossible to escape User:Conservative broaching the subject of homosexuality in virtually any discussion thread on wiki or in email.

How long will User:Aschlafly force editors and readers to be subjected User:Conservative's disruptive and offensive editing habits? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 12:33, December 18, 2024 (EST)

As to the decriminalization of homosexuality in 1993, our Russia article clearly states it was forced on them by the IMF, World Bank, and Clinton Administration as blackmail for economic aid. Are you now praising the Communist regime for outlawing homosexuality? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:37, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Lawmakers call for intelligence assessment on ending U.S. support for Ukraine

[19] What are they gonna do, have John Brennan & Peter Strzok write it again like they did in December-January 2015-2016? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:14, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Foreign Policy December 16, 2024: "both sides have issues that are non-starters and the negotiations are unlikely to work anyway. For Russia, the stationing of foreign ‘peacekeeping troops’ is just as bad or worse than Ukraine joining NATO. And for Ukraine, the US forcing the AFU to abandon currently held territory in Zaporozhye, Kherson, etc., which Russia demands as part of its terms will be an impossible ask—

European countries would only station troops if the US guaranteed to back them up militarily should those troops be attacked by Russia—a scenario unlikely given Trump’s strong signals opposing such possibilities." RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:27, December 17, 2024 (EST)

She shooter..

Who says there is no equality ?Daily Mail "The female school shooter, who gunned down students and teachers before turning the gun on herself in Wisconsin, has been identified by officials. Natalie 'Samantha' Rupnow, 15, killed a student, a teacher, and then herself..."Telling (talk) 10:11, December 17, 2024 (EST)

HERE is the unauthenticated manifesto published by a right-wing Indian website. The pro-feminism media is not reporting on it. Conservative (talk) 10:53, December 17, 2024 (EST)

This sick one had an account to "Watch People Die".https://ngo.locals.com/post/6470000/exclusive-madison-wisc-christian-school-mass-shooter-identified Dianne3000 (talk) 19:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks for the link, D.Telling (talk) 18:16, December 21, 2024 (EST)

What a p.o.s. Chris Wray...

What a p.o.s. Wray... [20] [21].Dianne3000 (talk) 23:23, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks D, noting about this troubling case.Telling (talk) 01:36, December 18, 2024 (EST)

"State of Palestine"? WTH? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:26, December 18, 2024 (EST)

It sounds like Wray is bitter and wants to slam the door on the way out. Like a little child that breaks the toys... London of sad.Telling (talk) 18:12, December 21, 2024 (EST)

One question I got: On whose advice did Trump appoint Wray? Chris Christie? a sitting US Senator or Senators? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:08, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Great question, RobS.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:06, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Murder of Gen. Kirillov

The Biden junta whacking Gen. Igor Kirillov was a big mistake. This kind of stupid game can go on forever. The United States has 423 generals (not to mention underlings down the chain), and not all of them can be afforded security protection. The Russians won't send amateur hitmen bribed with $100,000 and a European passport (those kind of fools exist everywhere and any society). President Trump has to decide if he wants Cold War II or not.

That will be the first question Putin asks Trump. Remember, a ceasefire is already off the table.

Yah yah yah, we already know...Western intelligence has already spread the fake news in Western media that Kirillov was behind some fake news chemical weapons attack. Save your breath. Don't spam bs propaganda here. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:05, December 18, 2024 (EST)

You don't have any solid proof that the so-called "Biden junta" was responsible for the general's death. It's just speculation. And with the Russians having problems with a falling value of the Russian ruble, high inflation in Russia, an expensive war in Ukraine and 3 wars in Africa, labor shortages in Russia, their problems associated with the falling of the Syrian regime, their crumbling infrastructure plus a host of other problems, don't be surprised if there is not an expensive rash of hit men killing US generals that is paid for by the Russians. Also, Colonel Douglas MacGregor points out that USA military is too top heavy command-wise and that there are too many US generals. So the Russians killing off some USA generals wouldn't be devastating to the US military.

In short, you are failing to see that Russia is stretched too thin right now which is one of the Russians they had inadequate resources to defend the Syrian regime. And you are failing to realize that Russia is in decline and doesn't have unlimited resources in order to carry out something that wouldn't have much of an effect.

To give some wider perspective, Russia's population is approximately 1.77% of the world's population and they are barely a high-income country with a host of financial problems. And as John Mearsheimer has pointed out, Russia really can't compare to the USA/China global power wise because military power rests on economic power (The USA and China have much bigger economies than Russia). Also, the population size of a country compared to other major powers is relevant too in global power dynamics. And the USA has a much bigger population than Russia. Conservative (talk) 08:25, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Perfect summary: "The sprawling Russian Federation now looks like a banana republic that needs assistance from Pyongyang’s hermit kingdom and can’t even keep one of its own generals safe in the national capital."[22] Conservative (talk) 08:55, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Oh, Putin doesn't have the guts to do anything about Kirillov. Far from getting revenge on Biden after Nordstream, Putin endorsed him. PeterKa (talk) 01:30, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Reprisals aren't always instantaneous. This is a reversion to Cold War politics unless a diplomatic solution is applied sometime soon. And by "diplomatic", it has nothing to do with negotiating a ceasefire. Overall security and trade agreements, arms limitation and disarmament talks come first. What's tragic is, institutions that were created to end the Cold War, like the OSCE, Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, or IAEA have been compromised and discredited by the West. Let's hope it doesn't take 20 or 30 years like last time to agree to negotiate to create such structures. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:46, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Update: Russian reprisal hits SBU in Kyiv. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:34, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Pardon for IRS contractor who leaked Trump's tax return?

Rolling Stone thinks IRS contractor Charles Littlejohn should be pardoned. Getting revenge on opponents is what the IRS is for, at least as far as Dems are concerned. PeterKa (talk) 01:49, December 19, 2024 (EST)

We still remember IRS going after conservatives under Obama 1.0.Telling (talk) 02:06, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Oh yeah. Lasting effect too.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:05, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Trump Criticizes Spending Deal, Pushing Congress Toward a Shutdown.

Trump Criticizes Spending Deal, Pushing Congress Toward a Shutdown. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/18/us/politics/trump-musk-spending-bill.html - from the bew sheriff in town...Telling (talk) 02:05, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Newt Gingrich, who was able to deliver balanced budgets, had several government shutdowns (But the US government never shuts down. They are merely slowdowns). Conservative (talk) 09:17, December 19, 2024 (EST)

From one of User:Conservative's favorite globalist/deep state rags, the official publication of the Atlantic Council:

• Gingrich Shut Down the Government in a Tantrum 23 Years Ago.

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:48, December 19, 2024 (EST)

"They are merely slowdowns" - quotable.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:04, December 19, 2024 (EST)

There might have been one time where Gingrich got angry and had a so-called "tantrum", but maybe it was just righteous anger if this occurred. However, I saw an interview of Gingrich and he said he shut down the government on multiple occasions. Furthermore, Gringrich played a significant part in 3 government shutdowns (See: How Many Times Has the US Government Shut Down?).

As far as your allegation that the publication you cited was one my favorite publications, you didn't provide one iota of proof for your contention. Unless you are a mindreader or have a statement from me saying it is one of my favorite publications, you are just gossiping. Remember, he who asserts must prove. Conservative (talk) 16:48, December 19, 2024 (EST)

"There might have been one time where Gingrich got angry", oh, so the Atlantic Council preaches the gospel truth, according to you, and isn't a partisan hit machine. Okay.

You just cited the Atlantic Council in one of your anti-Trump globalist propaganda pieces in the past week (after I explained to you months ago who & what the Atlantic Council is). And I don't have to provide "evidence" - everybody can see what an idiot troll you are. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:58, December 19, 2024 (EST)

With this defeat, the MAGA movement & Trump Effect is already losing momentum, and Trump's not even sworn in yet.

Good job, User:Conservative, impeding efforts to inform & educate MAGA voters. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:50, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Disruptive trolling

The guy who got caught plagariarizing by Karajou, gossips and has been caught in numerous lies, etc. etc. is talking about truth. And you still haven't figured out that I don't care about your opinions. I agree with Karajou who told you: "You have proven yourself to be no damn good in foreign affairs..". I will also point out that you cite MSM news outlets on main page right and in articles. For example, you cite CNN in the Bill Browder article (footnote #7). Rules for thee, but not for me.

And your hero, Vladimir Putin, isn't very good at international politics either as evidenced by: him causing Finland/Sweden to join NATO (see: FINLAND is Planning To Give U.S. 15 Military Bases To Fight Russia and Why Finland Joining NATO Checkmates Russia

Yah, they joined NATO so they can get "freebie" road improvements in the Arctic, courtesy of the US taxpayer.

Are the 15 US bases in Finland in the Continuing Resolution Congress just passed?

(Tuff question, cause now User:Conservative has to educate himself what a continuing resolution is. Don't worry. He'll be a budget expert by morning. Too bad he'll be a swamp budget expert and not a MAGA budget expert.)

and How Sweden Joining NATO Destroys PUTIN); losing his military bases in Syria

Wow. It appears the terrorist attack in Germany was carried out by a US backed "moderate rebel" terrorist.

(Maybe if the Russians were still in Syria, the jihadis would be held in check; but now the momentum has shifted the other way).

and his strategic partner Assad (See also: Russia's overseas troubles - so many all at once! Putin's jenga tower is unstable!); being engaged in a costly war of attrition in Ukraine which is making Russia's demographic crisis worse and causing a brain drain in Russia; not sufficiently protecting Kursk and losing two members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) - namely Uzbekistan and Armenia. The CSTO was supposed to be Russia's counterweight to NATO (See: Russia's counterweight to NATO is falling apart. Russia is losing influence in the Middle East). Conservative (talk) 01:37, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Update: "Moderate rebel" terrorists installed by CIA in Syria now begging the Russians, who were bombing them a few months ago, to stay and protect them.

This is very abnormal behavior. Who obsesses over a particular month/year in relation to a foreign country - especially when the country is in decline? Conservative (talk) 14:17, December 20, 2024 (EST)

And it's so obvious by now that Putin's decision to invade Ukraine in February 2022 was a foolish decision for Russia given its very bad consequences for Russia. Conservative (talk) 14:27, December 20, 2024 (EST)

This thread is about a domestic issue - the continuing resolution. It's not about Russia, Putin, gay bathhouses, potholes, or any of your other silly obsessions. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:23, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Trump Effect

User:Conservative: Is this the Trump Effect you've been spamming all over MPR? Markets Plunge.

Let's just hope no one took Conservapedia & User:Conservative's investment advice. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 12:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Ronald Reagan OMB director David Stockman:

Now Comes Trump’s Turn In The Economic Dunk Tank, Part 2.

So who's judgement you gonna trust on the Trump Effect, David Stockman who wrote the Reagan budget, cut spending and saved the planet from Soviet Communism, or User:Conservative who thinks gay bathhouses in America and illegal immigration fueling population growth are going to make America the most powerful nation for the foreseeable future? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

I didn't give any investment advice. Also, you gave zero evidence for your other claims concerning me.

Also, if you have a sound case against my essay at [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]], then write a counter essay at: [[Essay: The United States will NOT be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]. Conservative (talk) 13:18, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Yes you did. You claimed an uptick in stocks was the Trump Effect. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:23, December 19, 2024 (EST)

We live in a multivariable world that is always changing and variables have different strengths in terms of their effects. There are things that happened since Trump's election and the further away from the election we are, the less Trump being elected is going to have. I have no further commentary on this particular issue.

And at the end of the day, you keep kvetching about this essay, but you never write a counter essay. So I don't take your bellyaching about this essay seriously. Conservative (talk) 13:38, December 19, 2024 (EST)

The xenophobia and bigotry you spam in Conservapedia are the views of one man, albeit one unbalanced man, and not the views of America or the conservative movement. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:39, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Again, you make assertions about me that you do not support. And remember, ad hominem attacks (personal attacks) are a logical fallacy. Conservative (talk) 15:00, December 19, 2024 (EST)

By the way, upon further reflection, once Trump is actually in office, the Trump effect is expected to go into high gear as he implements his pro-growth policies. I cite: "Trump Effect": CEOs, investors bullish on global economy, survey finds. Key quote: "The U.S. will clearly be the beneficiary of much of this positive activity, solidifying its position as the most important investment destination for global businesses... ...and 86% of investors expect the global economy to improve in the first six months of 2025". By the way, there is no "Putin effect". Conservative (talk) 02:05, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Is this the Trump Effect?

• CNN: The Dow just did something it hasn’t done since Jimmy Carter was president. Dow tanks for 10 straight days.

• Yellen drains cash before January 1st, setting up debt ceiling crisis for Trump administration.

• Nearly $10T of US govt debt matures in 2025 with 2.50% avg coupon. Refinancing at > %5 will make the debt interest payments huge and consume most of the budget.

• We’re headed towards one of the largest bubble bursts in the history of this country. Trump warns of a 1929-style crisis.

This basically is the same liberal moral relativism User:Conservative argues about hate crimes - "conservatives", he argues, can just close their eyes to reality and pretend facts and laws don't exist or apply to them. Personally, I am getting more fed up the psychotic spam and trolling, on wiki and the Sysop email list, by a Senior Admin daily.

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:36, December 30, 2024 (EST)

And that trolling was continued this morning with links on MPR to the globalist rags Financial Times and Barrons who are hellbent on starting World War III. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:47, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Biden's 'single greatest mass jailbreak of corrupt scammers in history'

The single greatest mass jailbreak of corrupt scammers in history. [23]. From the great Daniel GreenfieldTelling (talk) 21:10, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Something's up

Both Biden and Kamala have canceled their holiday plans in Delaware & California and returned to DC. Probably a false flag Tet-style offensive. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:33, December 20, 2024 (EST)

RBS-Ukraine December 23, 2024: US urges its citizens to leave Belarus immediately.

Also, the Moldova-Transnistria situation is heating up (or rather, being provoked; the people of Transnistria have no desire to be EU/NATO slaves). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:03, December 24, 2024 (EST)

A walk down memory lane

Jake Sullivan [2] to Hillary Clinton: Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria.

Donald Trump, January 2, 2016: 'Clinton Created ISIS with Obama'.

What Trump left out was Obama, Biden, and Hillary Clinton. The Biden family were the first to reap the financial rewards.

They took down Libya and shipped all the captured stockpiles of weapons off to Syria and gave them to Al Qaeda and groups that became the Islamic State to overthrow Bashar Assad.

It was fired director of Obama's Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Michael Flynn who told Trump that Obama/Biden & Hillary created the Islamic State, which is why Flynn was the first target of the Russia hoax.

Now Biden has recreated the Islamic State, and the original objective, as outlined by Osama bin Laden of overthrowing the House of Saud, is revived. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:08, December 20, 2024 (EST)

So when Trump says, "I defeated ISIS", he is not saying "The United States defeated ISIS"; he's saying one faction of the United States government, the Trump faction, defeated another faction of the United States Government, the six-ways-from-Sunday deep state crowd. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:53, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Question to User:Conservative: Was that just election hyperbole & rhetoric that Donald Trump pulled out of his butt in 2016, or was there (and is there) a factual basis to it? Cause you have done yeoman's service to the deep state to discredit and paint Donald Trump as a fool and liar over the past 3 years. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:34, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Note: 12 hours and no response, despite the user being active. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:50, December 22, 2024 (EST)

User:Conservative: You have hampered and hindered, if not outright destroyed, Conservapedia's ability to be an effective conservative social media influencer with your globalist and fascist trolling. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:23, December 22, 2024 (EST)

"Reuters: The US economy WILL continue bla bla bla"

This is simply more evidence that the poster has no understanding of what news is or how to distinguish it from brainwashing and propaganda. News is factual reporting of events (past tense); "will continue" is a prognostication of FUTURE events, and NOT news. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:30, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Islamic Empire expansionists Iran vs Turkey

Funny, who criticizes who. While both are not on the good side anyhow. Iranian Regime Mouthpiece 'Kayhan' Comes Out Against Turkish President Erdoğan 'Who Is Working To Revive The Ottoman Caliphate.' In a December 16, 2024 article titled "This Neighbor Is No Longer Trustworthy, the Iranian regime mouthpiece Kayhan labelled Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan as "opportunistic" and accused him of assisting the Syrian rebels, particularly Hay'at Tahrir Al-Sham, and of working to revive the Ottoman caliphate.Dianne3000 (talk) 06:12, December 22, 2024 (EST)

The US' dilemma, Turkey who is still in NATO but is fighting US allies - Kurds who are the most anti Jihad group there.Telling (talk) 22:20, December 22, 2024 (EST)

Putin vs. Dugin

When Vladimir Putin first made these comments, I was astounded. Why would he treat the fall of Assad and rise of HTS as anything but a setback for Russia, much less treat HTS as anything but a terrorist organization? Then I remembered something.

In his 1997 book Foundations of Geopolitics, Aleksandr Dugin, who is perhaps the most influential geostrategist in Russia, identified Turkey (along with China) as a "frenemy" nation which Russia could use as a tool against the West by promoting its southward expansion. More specifically, Russia could promote Turkish expansion first into Syria and Iraq and then into Saudi Arabia in exchange for Turkish support of Russian efforts to remove Western influence from the Middle East. Considering that (1) HTS is a Turkish proxy; and (2) Iranian-backed militias in Iraq claim to have evidence that Turkey is preparing to take over Iraq through an HTS-style offensive, could the events of the past month be the result of Putin attempting to implement this strategy?

If that is the case, then ironically enough Dugin himself doesn't appear to be onboard with it, having previously called the HTS offensive a "betrayal" of Russia by Turkey. This is likely because Dugin doesn't believe Recep Tayyip Erdogan has done enough to distance Turkey from the West, even after the West attempted to overthrow him back in 2016. Putin on the other hand could be taking a more lenient approach toward Turkey, and be willing to take a gamble which Dugin would avoid. Only time will tell which man is correct.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:08, December 28, 2024 (EST)

The underlying assumption here is that both Russia & Turkish foreign policy is "expansionist". In the eyes of the West, perhaps. From Russia's perspective, they seek re-unification of peoples and territories, as East Germany was reunited with West Germany, or the PRC wishes with Taiwan.

In a sense, Erdogan has made similar statements recently, but I can't really speak to that situation fully. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:38, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Turkey is the new "iran" in Syria...

Beep/beep: The psychological and logistical blow to Hezbollah was significant

Mossad agents reveal: This is how Hezbollah walkie-talkies and pagers exploded. Two retired Mossad agents reveal to CBS' "60 Minutes" details of the September operation in which thousands of walkie-talkies and pagers belonging to Hezbollah terrorists exploded: "This was the tipping point of the war." https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/401150 Telling (talk) 22:18, December 22, 2024 (EST)

Telling, you will like this article: Benjamin Netanyahu: The Inside Story of Israel’s Victory, Wall Street Journal, December 20, 2024. Conservative (talk) 00:12, December 23, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. Of course he, like any human being has his flaws, but has been under lawfare pressure, yet, one thing is clear, ever since: safety and security for Israel is his 'thing', issue. As should be.Telling (talk) 01:56, December 24, 2024 (EST)

I'm getting reports Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen tonight. You hear anything? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:01, December 24, 2024 (EST)

Not from variety of sources I see.Telling (talk) 16:16, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Bye and Bye: Washington State Moves Toward a “Wealth Tax” As the Wealthy Move to Leave the State

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/12/22/bye-and-bye-washington-state-moves-to-toward-wealth-tax/ OKTelling (talk) 16:13, December 23, 2024 (EST)

WTF - "The Bible is pro-trans[sic], Anglican campaign group claims"

The Bible is pro-trans, Anglican campaign group claims https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/25/bible-pro-trans-queer-guidance-church-of-england/

My 1st comment:

Deut. 22 5 Telling (talk) 06:45, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Trump Trolls Canada, Denmark, and Panama for Christmas but Behind the Fun He Makes Serious Points

"Trump Trolls Canada, Denmark, and Panama for Christmas but Behind the Fun He Makes Serious Points." [24]. Besides, the experienced 'art of the deal' most probably lays a foundation for Panama... for instance.Telling (talk) 06:44, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Re Panama, he might want to pressure to cool off China commercial links.Dianne3000 (talk)

I dunno; Greenland has high rates of alcoholism and no flush toilets. User:Conservative thinks we ought to just nuke 'em. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:19, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Oil & gas?Telling (talk) 16:15, December 26, 2024 (EST)

The Greenland proposal is probably a good idea; my instincts tell me it's headed for another 54-40 or Fight. Then again, we live in a fast-changing world with fast changing border adjustments. Someone posted a meme on Telegram with another Trump-Putin ala Hitler-Stalin Pact - the Baltics & Donbas in exchange for Greenland & Panama. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:32, December 26, 2024 (EST)

It's actually a good lesson in The Art of the Deal. Trump talks like this, and Denmark immediately coughs up $1.5 billion to shore up Greenland's defenses. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:04, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Merry belated Christmas, everyone! So, it appears that Trump was merely trolling about Canada but is dead serious about Greenland and the Panama Canal. While it is currently unclear how he plans to accomplish annexing those territories, no doubt the stealth neocons who will be comprising his second term foreign policy team are itching to convince him that going to war to obtain those territories would be option.

That said, pursuing annexation of those territories is a bad idea, for three reasons. First, the core premise behind such annexations is that doing so is necessary to counter the so-called "China threat," which was manufactured by the Deep State and its media outlets in order to justify its nefarious activities in Asia, which unless stopped could eventually lead to World War III. In other words, the main beneficiary of such annexations would be not the American people, but their oppressors. Second, even if there were a more benign motive behind such annexations they would still add three new countries to the list of those we border (be it by land or by sea): Iceland, Norway, and Panama. With more borders to secure, there would be a need for a larger military budget, or at least one larger than what we could otherwise cut it down to in order to reduce the federal deficit. Furthermore, such annexations would make it more difficult for us to remain neutral in international affairs than we potentially could otherwise, because the more countries we border the more potential hostile incidents could occur in our backyard. And lastly, the sheer amount of new land acquire would be a potentially severe roadblock towards reducing domestic government spending and eliminating the federal deficit.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:48, December 26, 2024 (EST)

I still see it as a negotiating manuever by him.Telling (talk) 04:57, December 27, 2024 (EST)

I view the Greenland project more as a revival of NATO. He's got Denmark already to cough up more cash, but it would be the US that man's the bases for the most part. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:10, December 27, 2024 (EST)

Though Trump means economics. Apparently.Telling (talk) 18:55, December 28, 2024 (EST)

DG: "Chanukah Over Syria. Miracles can still happen here."

Great history overview (from the great Daniel Greenfield): Link

On this Chanukah, menorahs will be lit not only in the land of Israel, from Jerusalem to Gaza, but in Lebanon and on the heights of Mt. Hermon overlooking Syria. Vacationing families will visit the waterfalls of the Hermon Stream in the Golan Heights from which the Syrian Greek armies had descended thousands of years ago to conquer Israel leading to the events of. Chanukah.

The lights of the menorahs over darkness are a reminder that miracles can still happen here.

The Syrian Greeks had called the area Paneas after their god Pan and the Arab Muslim conquerors had retained the pagan name as Baneas due to the inability of the so-called ‘Palestinian’ occupiers to pronounce the letter ‘P’. In the original Chanukah, the Maccabees had driven the Syrian Greeks and their enforced paganism out of the land and during the Six Day War their latter day descendants also pushed out the Syrian invaders at great cost.

Commanding the heights, the Assad regime had unleashed artillery fire on the villages of Northern Israel, forcing residents to live in bomb shelters. The Syrian Muslim armies had fortified the Golan Heights with layers of guns and bunkers. Under heavy fire, Israeli soldiers charged the heights and though more than half of the force was killed or wounded, the Israelis took the heights living out the words of the Betar hymn “to die or to conquer the mountain”.

The heights are marked by Israel’s long struggle against empires.

Here is the Cave of Pan, now an archeological site, whose worshipers believed that its waters came from the underworld, but the idol is long gone along with its followers to their own underworld after attempting to impose their paganism on the Jews of Israel.

Antiochus IV Epiphanes, styled as ‘God Manifest’, began a ruthless campaign of persecution to wipe out Judaism in Israel. He ordered the Torah defiled with the blood of pigs and commanded “that the lamp, which they call undying and which burns continually in the temple, should be extinguished”. In the climax of Chanukah, the Maccabean revolt by a devout family, not only liberated Jerusalem, but relit the menorah with the last remaining pure oil that, despite being only sufficient for one day, continued to burn for eight days until fresh oil could arrive.

While Antiochus, his empire and his gods are long gone, menorahs still burn in the land that he once ruled as a reminder of the miraculous victory and of the holy light he tried to suppress

Rome stepped into his place appointing Herod, the son of an Edomite and an Arab, to become the first Arab ruler over Israel. Here on the heights are also the ruins of Herod’s palace built to honor his Roman patron. Herod Philip II, his son, who like his father was not Jewish in any way, the son of Cleopatra of Jerusalem whom Herod married after murdering the last Hasmonean princess, declared this to be his capital Caesarea-Philippi. That too is in ruins.

The rubble of empires is everywhere around. Here is an ancient Roman road leading to Damascus and there an Ottoman tomb. Turkey’s brutal Islamist dictator, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, successfully used former Al Qaeda terrorists to invade and take over Syria. Erdogan promises to rebuild the Ottoman Empire and invade Israel as well. The Islamic Jihadist seizure of Syria is a major reason why Israel has expanded its presence in the heights to overlook Syria.

But amidst the ruins of empires, a 1,200 year old synagogue has been rising again in Ein Keshatot (known to the Arab Muslim occupiers as Umm el-Kanatir) and as our own Ari Lieberman described, “I counted no less than six menorahs” among the ancient carvings. The Maccabee revolt had inspired those who worshiped at that synagogue to go on living in faith.

For now it is quiet on the heights where visitors and soldiers walk surrounded by the ruins of the past and the promise of the future. Stone, no matter how built, only endures for so long. Everything that is of earth crumbles except for the fortitude and courage of the hearts of men.

Over two thousand years ago, Judah Maccabee walked among his men, hungry and dressed in rags, and urged them, “O my fellow soldiers, no other time remains more opportune than the present for courage and contempt of dangers; for if you now fight manfully, you may recover your liberty, which, as it is a thing of itself agreeable to all men, so it proves to be to us much more desirable, by its affording us the liberty of worshiping God.”

“You must either recover that liberty, and so regain a happy and blessed way of living, which is that according to our laws, and the customs of our country, or to submit to the most opprobrious sufferings; nor will any seed of your nation remain if ye be defeated in this battle. Fight therefore manfully; and suppose that you must die, though you do not fight; but believe, that besides such glorious rewards as those of the liberty of your country, of your laws, of your religion, you shall then obtain everlasting glory.”

Over two thousand years later the descendants of the Maccabees once again stand watch.

In the days of the Seleucid Empire, Israel existed as a beleaguered encampment surrounded by the Syrian-Greeks, Romans, Edomites and Arabs. That much has not changed. But neither has the will of a small people to keep the light of truth and faith burning against all enemies.

On Oct 7, Israelis made the decision to fight. After over a year of death and terror, of international condemnations and threats from regional and world powers, Israelis have not backed down. And for a second year, menorahs will be lit in wartime. But after over a year of fighting, that brave light of ages shines not only in Jerusalem, but over Gaza, Lebanon and Syria as a reminder that these battles are not just of the moment, but of eternity.

Israel once again stands condemned by Rome and Greece, by the United Nations and the European Union, along with some of their Jewish collaborators, who want nothing more than for the little lights of the menorah to go out, across all of Israel and around the world.

Like Antiochus IV, they defile everything sacred, call the Jews ‘Nazis’ for resisting Islamic genocide, uphold a death cult and denounce Judaism, and expect that is enough to win, but the lesson of Chanukah is that Jews persist in kindling light in the face of darkness. And that when the time is right, G-d rewards their efforts by making that light burn bright.

Life in Israel has always been precarious and living here is an act of faith. The little lights across Israel represent little lives committed to believing in G-d and that miracles can still happen.

A year ago, Israel had hit its lowest point, and while the lights of the menorah still do not shine in the Temple, which remains defiled by Jihadist occupiers on the Temple Mount, it shines against the darkness in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria, and perhaps in some coming year over Jerusalem.

Telling (talk) 07:08, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. Once in a while a read

https://www.frontpagemag.com/ - a true conservative beacon.Dianne3000 (talk) 12:46, December 26, 2024 (EST)

R.I.P. Ludmila... she escaped the WW2-nazis but not...

Who does that? Stabbing an 80-year-old?

Allah Akbar..

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-835107Dianne3000 (talk) 12:53, December 27, 2024 (EST)

What a sad story of Ludmila Lipofsky . And in a way encapsules how the two generations have been fighting for survival.Telling (talk)

F-16/Azerbaijan Airline shoot downs

Apparently, the F-16 shot down over Zaporozhye by an Su-57 was launching a Storm Shadow toward Russian air defenses near the Caspian at about the same time Russian air defenses in the Caspian fired back, and the Azerbaijan passenger airline was hit with shrapnel.

Some may call it an "accident", however it likely was pretty well planned by CIA to attack deep inside Russia and expose commercial airline traffic to risk. Consider it part of the "sanctions" program, forcing the shutdown of passenger airline traffic hundreds of kilometres inside Russian borders and neighboring countries. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:28, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Consider, Russia has been hit by ATACMS missiles originally sold to South Korea, marking another escalation in the conflict, Dec 19, 2024, Jet carrying 181 people crashes and bursts into flames while trying to land in South Korea, Dec. 28, 2024. This kind of tit-for-tat terrorism & assassinations can go on for decades, if President Trump wishes to follow the neocons into Cold War II. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:44, December 29, 2024 (EST)

• Air Canada flight lands with broken landing gear at Halifax airport. Only minor injuries, Dec. 28, 2024. Comment: There is no point in being a cheerleader for Russophobia and warmonger for terrorism against the civilian population. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:06, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Recall for example, the Israeli pager attack on Hezbollah was years in the making. If the US and deep state terror attacks on the Russian civilian population target commercial airlines, you can bet retaliatory measures have been in place for years. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:11, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Fourth plane crash in four days. Now to educate and inform the public in a coming New Cold War, it requires walking back much of the anti-Russia propaganda we've been spoon fed for years already. Namely, admitting Russia has superior electronic warfare capabilities. Capabilities that not only can seize control of a drone or disrupt operations of an F-16 or F-35, a commercial airline is child's play to mess with. So just keep cheerleading the Crocus Hall terror attack, assassinations of high-profile people in Moscow, and blaming Russia for shooting down commercial airliners. See where it leads in a New Cold War if Trump fails in his promise to end the killing. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:09, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Korybko quoting Azeri President Aliyev: “the initial theories are also quite reasonable and are based on facts.” He believes that the plane was accidentally shot down by Russia, its electronic warfare made the plane even more uncontrollable afterwards, and officials then tried to cover it all up. Regrettably, nowhere in his interview did he mention Ukraine’s drone attacks, which triggered Russian air defenses and electronic warfare.' [25]

Comment: Eventually a discussion (or actually negotiation or international convention) on Artificial Intelligence has to enter in, being electronic warfare and missile defense basically operate on autopilot (which is what the CIA took advantage of in planning the drone attack). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:20, December 30, 2024 (EST)

• Finian Cunningham: "The fatal air crash of the Azerbaijani passenger plane last week was brought about by Ukrainian drones attacking the Russian city of Grozny where Flight J2-8243 was trying to land. The timing was no coincidence. The passenger jet was put in danger deliberately by the NATO-backed regime." [26] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:01, January 1, 2025 (EST)

If you're going to try to take over a commercial airliner and give it problems resulting in fatalities, landing gear is NOT the way to do it. The gear can be manually dropped and it's as simple as gravity. Quidam65 (talk) 18:27, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire

Remember his repeated denial? The damming (2013) photo articleTelling (talk) 19:20, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Here's the full reel of all pictures. It was Stephen Miller's America First Legal that won disclosure of the pictures in court. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:33, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Too bad we didn't see it in...2020.Telling (talk) 03:42, December 30, 2024 (EST)

When scrolling through those photos, you have to remember the context. In Hunter Biden's own words: "the f****** spy chief of China who started the company that my partner, who is worth $323 billion, founded and is now missing. The richest man in the world is missing who was my partner. He was missing since I last saw him in his $58 million apartment inside a $4 billion deal to build the f****** largest f***** LNG [liquid natural gas] port in the world. [27]

He's referring Ye Jianming. I'd like to identify Ye, if he's in one of those photos. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:08, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Maybe that is Ye, [28] in the first series of a dozen photos or so. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:17, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Editorial "Indeed, if Team Biden had called out the phony reports of famine and “genocide” from the start, and fully backed Israel’s defensive war, the fighting might well have ended by now"

Post-election, Team Biden finally slams a bogus claim about famine in Gaza By Post Editorial Board.

Well said re PallyWeid.Telling (talk) 15:02, December 29, 2024 (EST)

The WSJ has a great piece on Biden's fighting legacy. Dianne3000 (talk) 05:49, January 3, 2025 (EST)

Jimmy Carter, RIP

According to Dan Rather, Jimmy Carter was "a man of honesty." A major theme of the Carter presidency was to claim that we would run out of oil and everything else in ten years time. Okay, everyone makes mistakes. But Carter and his backers don't see this one as a mistake at all. Instead, they proudly claim credit as prophets of "climate change." Promoting inefficient technology was the point all along. Which apocalypse we were trying to head off was just an afterthought.

As an ex-president, Carter was somehow even more destructive than he had been as president. His response to his defeat in the 1980 election was to claim that Ronald Reagan won by conspiring to delay the release of hostages held in Iran. "It’s almost nauseating to think that this could be true," Carter said, as if this was a theory that somebody else was responsible for. The ludicrous "October surprise" theory, as it was called, obsessed the American political class for a decade. See "Gee, Why Can’t Trump Accept Defeat Like the Democrats?"

Update. I didn't even get to Carter's inflation and Middle East policies. Here is NR: "to maintain the buying power that $100 had on the month Carter was sworn into office, you’d need $150 by the time he left the White House just four years later" and "His obsessive hatred of Israel, and pompous belief that only he could forge Middle East peace, led him to befriend terrorists and lash out at American Jews who criticized him." PeterKa (talk) 01:20, December 30, 2024 (EST)

SNL on Jimmy Carter: 'Inflation is our friend'. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:25, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Paradox Carter. Though we appreciate his activities in humanitarian areas, he (his Israelophbia) has been 'explained,' he carried a grudge for losing his political career to radical Islam (i.e. Iran hostage taking) At that time, Islamic Iran was only at war with the US, not with Israel, which only decades later on focued more on, as being an "extension" of US: Big/little "satan" what Khomeini called/used as terminology, but instead of turning against the enemy he ironically turned against the very victim of jihad. Paradoxically. Telling (talk) 01:45, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Footnote to history: It was Obama/Biden & Hillary that tore up the Camp David Accords and threw it in the trash with the "Arab Spring". That was a prelude to the Maidan coup & Russiagate.

Incidentally, has there ever been a more obvious, cooked up, external interference in sovereign state affairs by the CIA/NYT than the "Arab Spring"? Its name, "Arab Spring", might be recognizable to brainwashed Western audiences, but Arabs never heard of it and didn't know what the NYT & CIA operatives were talking about.

And to sell the idea of an "Arab Spring" to Western audiences, the younger generation of Obama followers had to be educated that Russia was the boogeyman again. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:29, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Aiding the Mujahideen was his admin.Telling (talk)

Update on that: The US & Russia now are in sort of a competition to cozy up to the Mujahideen/Taliban, after both having fought wars against them. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:24, December 30, 2024 (EST)

HAMAS: “Our issue is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel. We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!”

Quami Sika, Oct 6, 2024.

Hamas terrorists: “Our issue is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel. We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!” Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be destroyed. On FB

Dr. Maalouf ‏@realMaalouf: Hamas terrorists: “Our cause is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel.

We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!”

Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be destroyed!

Dec 19, 2024. On XTelling (talk) 03:46, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Tell it to 'chicken for KFC' 'queers for Palestine.'Dianne3000 (talk) 05:51, January 3, 2025 (EST)

Biden remembers

What is Joe Biden's greatest regret? Appointing Merrick Garland as attorney general. Garland was too slow to prosecute Donald Trump, too quick to prosecute Hunter Biden, at least in Joe's view. As he sees it, the Department of Justice should have been paving the way for his reelection by prosecuting his opponents. That's his "vision of democracy," as the Washington Post calls it. Of course Biden weaponized the DOJ and tried to fix the election! "Republicans have been arguing that the prosecutions of Trump were entirely political.... Now, the Post admits it with a shrug," according to "Biden Angry That Lawfare Was Too Slow to Destroy Trump."

The lawfare against Trump isn't over. Writer E. Jean Carroll won an appeal against Trump for $5 million. Carroll claims that Trump walked into her dressing room at Bergdoff's in 1996 and raped her. She didn't accuse Trump of anything until 23 years later, long after the statute of limitations expired, so the legal basis for this case is convoluted. New York created a law just to convict Trump after the fact, an unconstitutional bill of attainder. The accusation itself is suspicious because it echoes the plot of an episode of Law and Order, Carroll's favorite show. Trump was already a celebrity at the time. Surely there would be witnesses had he really been at the department store at the right time. PeterKa (talk) 16:54, December 31, 2024 (EST)

Headline on Vegas attack

Suggest it be revised to state that the one person dead was the driver. Quidam65 (talk) 18:23, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Ok. But we don't know if it was an accident or a suicide bomber yet, and neither federal investigators nor Las Vegas Police (Mandalay Bay shooting, Biden medical emergency) are reliable sources. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:28, January 1, 2025 (EST)

If it's an accident, it makes Elon look bad for selling a defective product. First impressions matter. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:39, January 1, 2025 (EST)

CNN reports: Exploded Cybertruck in Las Vegas had a driver-controlled detonation system. So Elon (& Trump) appear to be the victim, rather than the perp. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:53, January 1, 2025 (EST)

So the big question is, Where did these suicide bombers get all the money to finance their operations? (Neither vehicle is cheap). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:00, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Bottomline: This appears to be part of the operation to "Trump proof" the war by bringing war home to the American civilian population. These are not "lone wolf" attacks. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:41, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Kash & Tulsi can't let us down. But I'm sure User:Conservative's obsession with gay bathhouses & Russian potholes will interfere with creating content on the biggest subjects of 2025, unless Andy acts quickly to do something about User:Conservative's trolling. Simply talking with him has proved elusive so far. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:50, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Update: Matthew Livelsberger, 37, identified as the Cybertruck driver in the Las Vegas explosion, is listed on LinkedIn as an United States Army Operations Director and former Special Forces Intelligence Manager.

➡️ According to his profile, he served on US Military for 19 Years

➡️ After quitting the Army, after the November 2024 (ironically, the month of the US elections), he started to work as Remote and Autonomous Systems manager, a position often related to Self-driving cars and autonomous vehicles

➡️ The Profile states he is from the Greater Colorado Springs Area, and that that he was Active Duty in the U.S. Army, serving as a Special Forces Communication & Intelligence Specialist “Green Beret” and working on Small Unmanned-Aircraft Systems (sUAS). [29]

Kash has his work cutout. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:24, January 2, 2025 (EST)

Hundreds of "palestine" thugs march for ‘Intifada’ in NYC hours after attacks in NOLA, Vegas.

Hundreds March for ‘Intifada’ in NYC Hours After Attacks in New Orleans, Las Vegas. January 1, 2025. Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters marched in New York City on New Year’s Day for “intifada,” blocking Sixth Avenue in Manhattan just hours after a terror attack in New Orleans, Louisiana, and an explosion in Las Vegas, Nevada. Breitbart. Just CLASSY...Telling (talk) 20:35, January 2, 2025 (EST)

They feel emboldened after terror massacres. Islamic (immigrants or not) forces Dianne3000 (talk) 05:53, January 3, 2025 (EST)

Some gullible liberals swallow the lie - the sugar-coated sell of bloody Islamic jihad "intifada."Telling (talk) 20:20, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Livelsberger

email from Livelsberger to Sam Shoemate sheds light on east coast drone activity. [30] Apparently, Livelsberger was on the run from the FBI trying to cross into Mexico before he was killed. [31]

I'd like to cover this developing story, however I still spend minimum 3 hours daily dealing with User:Conservative's targeted trolling. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:49, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Re the latest, he also suffered from PTSD.Telling (talk) 20:19, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Reports say the charred corpse' DNA doesn't match his son, which is a nice way of saying he was trapped in a bad marriage and had emotional problems. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:11, January 4, 2025 (EST)

btw, he didn't try to kill other people , besides himself. Telling (talk) 21:40, January 4, 2025 (EST)

That's assuming (a) he killed himself, and (b) the charred remains were his. We don't know, and won't for some time, until Kash Patel addresses it. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:48, January 4, 2025 (EST)

btw, the Cybertruck is a self-driving vehicle, meaning the vehicle could have been remotely driven to the front of Trump Tower with his, or somebody else's corpse inside.

Secondly, a collection of emails and text messages do not constitute what the public has been led to believe is a post-suicide "Manifesto". RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:51, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Let's address the question of the guilt he felt for hitting the Afghan drug hub/laboratory which the UN condemned as a war crime in which 130+ civilians, including women and children, were killed. This happened in 2019, under the Trump administration. Trump's anti-drug sentiments may account for making it a military target. However, a drug laboratory/transit point is primarily considered a legitimate military target because of the revenue it provides to belligerents, and not necessarily for law enforcement purposes. IOWs, law enforcement and public health don't necessarily justify war crimes. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:05, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Cybertruck Bomber recorded himself? Is that the Dark Eagle he's allegedly carrying near the end of the clip? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:10, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Rank-and-file FBI agents dismayed, ‘embarrassed’ by bureau’s handling of New Orleans terror attack

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jan/4/rank-file-fbi-agents-dismayed-embarrassed-bureau-h/

No surprise.Telling (talk) 18:55, January 5, 2025 (EST)

'Harris: "I pledge allegiance to the United States of the United States "...

Man . https://freebeacon.com/biden-harris-administration/watch-kamala-harris-flubs-pledge-of-allegiance-in-final-act-of-public-humiliation/LaMarina (talk) 15:19, January 5, 2025 (EST)

Is she drunk again? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:44, January 5, 2025 (EST)

How embarrassing. Dianne3000 (talk) 16:34, January 5, 2025 (EST)

Remeber how Obama goofed the oath of office and they had to do it over again the next day? It would have taken weeks or months to get it right if Kamala won. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:40, January 5, 2025 (EST)

"From 1975 to 1982, from the age of 11 to the age of 18, Kamala Harris, an American, was a student in Canada."[32] So she missed out on a lot of rote memorization.

In addition, she comes from San Francisco which isn't known for its fervent patriotism (See: At Alvarado Elementary in San Francisco, students used to recite the pledge when there were daily morning assemblies. Now they don't., San Francisco Chronicle, 2013 and San Francisco school board president drops Pledge of Allegiance, 2018). Conservative (talk) 21:32, January 5, 2025 (EST)

Especially, that SF thing... yup.Telling (talk) 04:45, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Racist, cruel BLM-ism

Horrific TikTok shows mob taunting unconscious cop after he was flung from moving car trying to make arrest. https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/mob-mocks-posts-tiktok-video-of-injured-cop-flung-from-fleeing-womans-car/ Telling (talk) 04:43, January 6, 2025 (EST)

off topic rant

The GOP could help fix this problem. The governors in red states need to get to the root of the problem by increasing school choice in red states so as to make them more enticing to move to. The less people going to public schools the better. Also, it would be nice if Darwinism isn't taught in red states via anti-Darwinism laws in red states and/or allowing intelligent design to be taught. Also, make single motherhood less enticing (welfare reform and making it harder to get a divorce).

Fatherhood, less people going to public schools and less Darwinism being taught would be a step in the right direction. Many people do move with their feet as evidenced by many people leaving blue states and moving to red states. Conservative (talk) 09:29, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Governors increase school choice? That's odd. I thought only the legislature can do that. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 10:52, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Thanks for the correction. I should have been more precise/accurate concerning this particular matter as far as my wording.

With that being said, Governors have the bully pulpit to encourage legislators to craft and pass various new laws and/or to get the public to put public pressure on legislators. A governor can also publicly lobby for various legislators to be elected that are more allied to his various public policy positions.

For example, Gov. Greg Abbott stops at Tyler private school to promote school choice, voucher proposal and Governor Abbott Spotlights Growing Support For School Choice In Tyler and Inside Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro’s support for private school vouchers. Conservative (talk) 13:40, January 6, 2025 (EST)

With that being said, you are politically dense.

I trust this clarifies matters. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:11, January 6, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative has made himself the AOC of the right, mouthing other people's talking points without thinking. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:55, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Now that User:Conservative's trolling has effectively derailed this thread from the poster's original intent, I see Al Qaeda recently banned the teaching of Darwinism in schools , which puts User:Conservative, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Jake Sullivan on the same page in Syria.

Ken, read your Bible: "To everything there is a season", a time speak and time to shut up. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:16, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Actually, I am on great terms with Telling and receive emails from him. And he has expressed zero complaints about the post in question.

I am on good terms with multiple people at this wiki and when I endorsed the CP Civility Association its membership swelled to 9 members. Meanwhile, your so-called Team CP has no members besides yourself. Please do some introspection concerning this matter. Conservative (talk) 21:34, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Good good. Have some courtesy toward other editors so that they can actually respond to Telling's subject matter, and don't spam the discussion with thousands of bytes of off topic matter. You are the AOC of the right, injecting your opinion and throwaway lines on matters that you have no understanding of. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 21:46, January 6, 2025 (EST)

This is narcissism: an editor creates a thread with 121 bytes; User:Conservative is first inject 825 bytes off-topic, ill-informed nonsense, derailing any chance of intelligent discussion. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:00, January 6, 2025 (EST)

Another unpublished virus from China?

Expert verdict on danger for Europe as cases of virus overwhelming China's hospitals surge https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1996931/hmpv-virus-cases-surge-china-world Another one without the West being notified?Telling (talk) 13:11, January 7, 2025 (EST)

Another? There (probably) wasn't even a first one. COVID was (almost certainly) an American bioweapon, and China was framed.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:39, January 7, 2025 (EST)

Gulf of America

If Barack Obama can rename the Mount McKinley to Denali, why can't Donald Trump rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America? The U.S. Board of Geographic Names approves names for use by the U.S. government. Independent mapmakers generally go along with what the board approves. See Trump: Let's Rename the Gulf of Mexico PeterKa (talk) 06:35, January 8, 2025 (EST)

"According to available information, approximately 50% of the Gulf of Mexico shoreline is located in Mexico, meaning that roughly half of the total coastline bordering the Gulf of Mexico belongs to the Mexican territory."[33]

But America has developed its coastline more. Also, "The Mississippi River's connection to the Gulf of Mexico plays a crucial role in American commerce, primarily through the large ports located in the Mississippi River Delta in Louisiana, like the Port of New Orleans and the Port of South Louisiana, which facilitate the shipment of vast quantities of agricultural goods, petroleum products, iron, steel, grain, chemicals, and other commodities to international markets, making it one of the largest port districts globally."[34]

Conservative (talk) 08:34, January 8, 2025 (EST)

"Chihuahuas will now be referred to as "Eric ".[35] (YouTube video commentator). Conservative (talk) 08:39, January 8, 2025 (EST)

I'm also interested to know what 'concessions' Trump seeks from Mex. via the rhetoric . Immigration enforcement?Telling (talk) 16:40, January 8, 2025 (EST)

The "Gulf of America" is just a way for Trump to dominate the news coverage by sprinkling his speeches with some "spice" that the news organizations will pick up. It gives more coverage to his speeches. Conservative (talk) 03:59, January 9, 2025 (EST)

• The AP will use "Mount McKinley," but not "Gulf of America." AP style is widely followed in the media. See "The AP establishes style guidance on the Gulf of Mexico and Mount McKinley." PeterKa (talk) 19:29, January 23, 2025 (EST)

Britain [VS Pallywood] 1930: "if every Zionist Jew left the country; it would be the turn of the Christians next."

Western Argus. 06 May 1930 - "WHY BRITAIN STAYS IN PALESTINE."

The terrible murders and outrages in Palestine last August with the slaughter of harmless women and children, and the burning and destruction of property caused a wave of horror and disgust throughout the world.

The British Goverment, taking the only course possible, appointed a Committee of Investigation into the cause of the outrages; but long before it had a chance to make its report the campaign re-opened in Britain for the Government either to throw up the Palestine Mandate. or for the nation to go back on its pledged word ahd abandon its policy of giving facilities to the Jews to re-establish themselves in their ancestral homeland.

The actual facts, therefore, should be presented.

[...]

• It has been said that the Arabs are "not out against the Jews, but against the predominance of the Zionist Jews." The fact is that of the 130 Jews who were slaughtered in the riots last August, 65 of them had nothing whatever to do with the Zionist colonies, but were members of families who had been settled in Palestine before the Balfour Declaration was made.

Indeed, all who know Palestine, and are honest, admit that, if every Zionist Jew left the country; it would be the turn of the Christians next.

• Again, 'it is said' that the Arabs are practically unrepresented in the administration.

This is untrue. The senior ranks of the civil service in Palestine there are 299 Christians, including Arab Christians, 187 Moslems and only 68 Jews. In the junior service the figures are 1220 Christians, 1025 Moslems and 699 Jews.

• Then it is said that the greater part of the revenue of the country is being spent on furthering the aims of the Zionists and to the detriment of the Arab population.

The fact is that the Jews contribute 42 per cent of the revenue and taxation, and receive little financial aid from the Government. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/34497311 Telling (talk) 21:42, January 8, 2025 (EST)

Thanks. Especially the first fake argument by the Arabs is still repeated, despite having been proven wrong, time and time again. As Jews are targeted by Islamic / Arabs everywhere. Dianne3000 (talk) 03:49, January 9, 2025 (EST)

Liz Warren's "problem" with Hegseth tattoo..

Liz Warren accuses Trump's Defense Secretary pick Pete Hegseth of being an "insider threat" because of his Christian tattoos. Does anyone know what she means by "insider?"Telling (talk) 14:30, January 9, 2025 (EST)

Who put Hegseth's Nazi tattoo on the cover of Jimmy Carter's funeral program. [36] IOWs, it must be similar to an Iron Cross, like former Democrat Congresswoman Katie Hill. [37] (In those days, Conservapedia had some social media power & influence cause CP was among the first to headline Katie Hill's Nazi tattoo and write it into her bio article; within 12 hours Nancy Pelosi asked Hill to resign. User:Conservative with his daily Russia Russia Russia hoaxing the past 3 years destroyed any modicum of conservative credibility CP had left after his Rationalwiki trolling pals destroyed it in the early days.) RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:05, January 10, 2025 (EST)

Trump warns dictator-socialist Maduro

Trump warns Maduro not to harm Venezuelan opposition leaders after Machado's detention.

By Mauricio Maldonado Updated on: January 9, 2025 / 6:25 PM EST / CBS/AP

MIAMI - President-elect Donald Trump issued a stern warning to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro on Thursday after the brief detention of prominent opposition leader María Corina Machado, who had been leading massive protests against Maduro's government.

On Truth Social, Trump called on Maduro to ensure the safety of opposition leaders, writing:

"Venezuelan democracy activist María Corina Machado and President-elect González are peacefully expressing the voices and the WILL of the Venezuelan people with hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating against the regime. The great Venezuelan American community in the United States overwhelmingly support a free Venezuela and strongly supported me. These freedom fighters should not be harmed and MUST stay SAFE and ALIVE!" [38]Dianne3000 (talk) 20:03, January 9, 2025 (EST)

Update: Report: Iran Signs Deal to Develop Drones in VenezuelaDianne3000 (talk) 16:37, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Footnote: Ukrainian drones have been used for dope smuggling from Morocco to Spain. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:43, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Where are they produced?Dianne3000 (talk) 16:50, January 12, 2025 (EST)

In Ukraine, with money from US & Western taxpayers. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:11, January 12, 2025 (EST)

• Barrons: Spain Busts Hashish Smugglers Using Ukrainian Drones, By AFP - Agence France Presse. November 28, 2024].

It's like most wartime priorities & advances in technology with no thought given to peacetime aftermath and civilian use: "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead". RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:16, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Update: US secretly helped Ukraine produce drones

Washington has made "major investments" that have allowed Kiev to "launch and expand drone production," the New York Times reports.

The US has helped Ukraine develop next-generation drones and "revolutionary methods of warfare," and in late September 2024, it sent a tranche of $1.5 billion to support drone production, the American newspaper adds, noting that this aid was not publicly announced like other arms sales and financing. [39] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:00, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Update: NYT: The CIA-Kiev Partnership: Report Reveals Biden Admin Secretly Funded Kiev's Drone Industry.

It's no secret intelligence agencies worldwide use dope smuggling to fund off-the-books operations. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 10:41, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Trump Receives "Unconditional Discharge" Simply so Democrats Can Have a "Convicted Felon President" Narrative

[40] Supreme Court denies request, will not cancel Trump sentencing. 5-4 decision, Roberts and Barrett side with Liberals. [41] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:10, January 10, 2025 (EST)

Liberal censorship and TikTok

With TikTok set to be taken down January 19, this presents an opportunity for Conservapedia to regain a place as a social media influencer.

The soon-to-be-released heroes and veterans of the DC gulag, who have sacrificed 4 years of their lives in incarceration, do not believe a world of User:Conservative's Russia Russia Russia hoaxing that User:Conservarive has spammed into hundreds of pages in Conservapedia. Why do you think they were out there risking their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor? As Trump said, "this never should have happened", but it did, and in no thanks to internet trolls like User:Conservative. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:15, January 10, 2025 (EST)

There is an update on TikTok today from the court. Only that IT CAN be banned. Dianne3000 (talk) 16:40, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Third of Israelis hold a stronger belief in God since October 7 atrocities

Third of Israelis hold a stronger belief in God since October 7, 'Post' survey finds. "An absolute majority of respondents (75%) said that since October 7, they feel a greater connection to the State of Israel (69%) and the diverse Israeli society (68%)." 02.09.2024Dianne3000 (talk) 16:33, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Thank you D, for posting this most vital news.Telling (talk) 19:32, January 12, 2025 (EST)

You welcome.Dianne3000 (talk) 21:37, January 14, 2025 (EST)

Denmark & Donbas

Looks like we may have the preliminary fixings for a peaceful settlement to the Russia-Ukraine war. If Russia formerly recognizes the US annexation of Greenland, the United States will formerly recognize the annexation of Donbas, Crimea, and possibly whatever other territories (Odessa, Kharkov) Russia deems vital to its national security.

Denmark is stressed, as are NATO allies, about American territorial expansionism, seizing land from its own allies (this essentially means Trump is no different than Vladimir Putin). Ultimately, Greenlanders will probably be bought off (or bribed) with a cash settlement and perpetual EBT cards, like Puerto Rico.

Part of the deal would require America, UK, and others renouncing a continued hybrid insurgency after a ceasefire in a Second Cold War.

This deal actually is good for America: the Arctic Ocean goes from being a Russian lake to only half a Russian lake. The US, Canada, Norway, Sweden and Finland actually need Russian cooperation & help developing oil fields in the Arctic, as Russia is the only power with nuclear icebreakers. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:23, January 12, 2025 (EST)

• WSJ: In a New Age of Empire, Great Powers Aim to Carve Up the Planet.

These deals are quite simple: The US gets to keep its naval facilities in Panama and Russia gets to keep its naval facilities in Crimea.

The US gets to keep its vital national strategic interests in Greenland, Russia gets to keep its vital national strategic interests in Kharkov, Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and possibly Kiev, and China gets to keep its vital national strategic interests in Taiwan. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:51, January 22, 2025 (EST)

Zelensky regime is a throwback to the Stalinist era

A girl has been detained in Ukraine who, according to the SBU, photographed the Cabinet of Ministers building in order to give Russia its coordinates for an attack. The building of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers was built in 1937, its photo, address and phone number can be found in open sources. [42]

This is a throwback to the Stalinist era when photographing a public building was considered terrorism. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 11:38, January 13, 2025 (EST)

Update: Joni Ernst officially backs Pete Hegseth for DOD

GOP Sen. Joni Ernst officially backs Pete Hegseth for DOD after initial uncertainty https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-sen-joni-ernst-officially-backs-pete-hegseth-dod-after-initial-uncertainty thanks Joni.Dianne3000 (talk) 21:36, January 14, 2025 (EST)

I guess no word yet about Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins...Telling (talk) 23:13, January 14, 2025 (EST)

Thune said there were enough votes - maybe that includes Fetterman and somebody else (Fetterman is apparently the new Manchin). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:21, January 14, 2025 (EST)

In views, Fetterman is even more conservative than some in GOP. BTW, the Sheehy line was funny.Telling (talk) 16:33, January 15, 2025 (EST)

Fatah blames Hamas for Gazan suffering. Making this antisemitic terror group more moral than the entire world wide "progressive" movement.

Isn't this amazing? Fatah blames Hamas for Gazan suffering. Making this antisemitic terror group more moral than the entire world wide "progressive" movement. Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party issued a strong anti-Hamas statement on Saturday. It is worth reading in full and analyzing. EoZTelling (talk) 16:27, January 15, 2025 (EST)

Pam Bondi: So help me, God. Cruz: Amen.

A little faith...

@SenTedCruz remarks during @PamBondi's hearing [43] Full transcript. __

More, facing questions.Telling (talk)

She also added "and I emphasize these words", in answering another one in Congress.Dianne3000 (talk) 16:38, January 17, 2025 (EST)

CNN pundit Scott Jennings goes absolutely nuclear on Biden’s ‘farce’ of a farewell speech — and he’s not alone

CNN pundit Scott Jennings goes absolutely nuclear on Biden’s ‘farce’ of a farewell speech — and he’s not alone. I saw even "progressives" surprised. Telling (talk) 11:43, January 16, 2025 (EST)

Extremely cold weather will force Trump’s inauguration inside for first time in 40 years

Extremely cold weather will force Trump’s inauguration inside for first time in 40 years. In any case: Stay Above the Weather (stay positive)...Telling (talk) 14:10, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Rain or shine, we will all be watching. Dianne3000 (talk) 16:36, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Looks like a cover for the alleged Iranian assassination threats.

An outdoor event not only is ripe for snipers, but modern drone warfare with AI and facial recognition technology. What's more, the NATO Kursk offensive has proven Russian drones can defeat NATO & US electronic warfare. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:07, January 17, 2025 (EST)

That is scary, if US can be defeated.Telling (talk) 21:50, January 18, 2025 (EST)

It will be another nostalgic moment from Reagan's indoor inauguration with both standing right after hostages freed.Telling (talk) 09:31, January 20, 2025 (EST).

Genesis 18, Sodom and Arab-Palestine: why Israel was forced to make a dangerous deal

Great piece: Link. "Lack of moderates among Palestinian Islamo-Arabs [Sodom] - forced humane Israel into a dangerous hostage deal. (01.17.25). This is about the agreement to a bad deal in principle, forced by the situation, though the pressed on a date [per US politics, optics on Jan/20 inauguration] probably made a bad deal, worse".Dianne3000 (talk) 20:01, January 18, 2025 (EST)

It should be noted, most polls there show bigotry and pro jihad.Telling (talk) 21:48, January 18, 2025 (EST)

Emboldened by radical liberals here.Dianne3000 (talk) 13:26, January 19, 2025 (EST)

Hostage returns to be ‘very slow and brittle’ coming from Hamas.

Hostage returns to be ‘very slow and brittle’ coming from Hamas. Sky News host Paul Murray says the hostages held by Hamas will be returned “very slow” and “brittle” as the ceasefire continues....“The concern of the next little while is while it is going to be three people now and three people later, it is very slow, very, very slow, very, very brittle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4262741nio Dianne3000 (talk) 13:25, January 19, 2025 (EST)

Hostages released from Jihadi "palestine" hell: Praising the LORD / Bible verses by Israeli government

• PM Bibi Netanyahu, PMO:

"Blessed are you, our God, King of the world, who releases the bound."

• Chairman of the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee, MK Yuli Edelstein on the release of the abductees Rumi, Doron and Emily from the hands of the Hamas terrorist organization: "To turn the hourglass from one big nightmare into one big rehabilitation." These words of Eitan Gonen, Romi's father, sum up the task of all of us now. To return everyone and all of them home and to restore the lives of the abductees, the families and the entire Israeli society. We will not give up on achieving the goals of the war and overthrowing the rule of the terrorist organization Hamas, so that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel. [Shehechiyanu]. "Blessed are You, L-rd our G‑d, King of the Universe, who has granted us life, sustained us and enabled us to reach this occasion."

• Shas Chairman Aryeh Deri said (from Psalm):

"O give thanks unto the LORD, for He is good, for His mercy endureth for ever!".

"Together with all the people of Israel, I am excited to see Romi Gonen, Doron Steinbracher and Emily Demari - three of our sisters who were brutally kidnapped on October 7 by Hamas terrorists, get to return home today, after 471 days!". He also said: "I wish them to be reunited with their families soon in good health, and I pray for the release of all the abductees - that life will return to the bosom of their families, and that the dead will be brought to the Kever-Yisrael [Jewish burial] with dignity. The State of Israel is obligated to return everyone home with God's help, this is our moral and Jewish duty!"

• Defense Minister Israel Katz said: "Romi, Doron and Emily returned home. This is a moment of hope for an entire nation that now embraces them and their families in their hearts. I salute the soldiers of the IDF, the security system and all those who worked with devotion to return them to the bosom of their families.

The State of Israel will not rest or be silent until every abductee returns home - the living to their families and those who are not between life and burial."

• State President Yitzhak Herzog (after he prayed by the Wailing Wall "May the Almighty have mercy on the hostages".

He said: "Romi, Emily and Doron - so loved and precious - a whole nation is happy that you are back. We send a huge hug to you and your families. It is a day of joy and comfort, and the beginning of a challenging journey to restoration and healing together. "A tearful eye and a happy heart" - at this time, our hearts go out to all the anxious and grieving families, whose loved ones have not yet returned. We will not rest or be quiet until we return all our sisters and brothers from the hell of captivity in Gaza - the living for restoration and their families and the dead for the grave of Israel.'

• Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich wrote: "Emily, Doron and Romi, welcome home! My heart goes out to you, our dear sisters! An entire nation is proud of you, tears with you, and hugs you endlessly!".

• The chairman of Torah Judaism, Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf wrote (from Isaiah):

"And the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion, and everlasting joy."

• Minister Yoav Ben Tzur wrote (from Jeremiah):

"And there is hope for thy future, saith the LORD; and thy children shall return to their own border."

"Between despair and hope, between weakness and strength, an entire country clinging to faith." After 471 days of uncertainty and immense anxiety for the fate of the abductees, we brought Romi, Doron and Emily home with tears of joy. The State of Israel is obliged to act in every way to return the abductees to their families. We will not give up on anyone, this is our commitment, of all of us. The Damari family, Gonen and Steinbracher, an entire country embraces and strengthens you, sorry that we failed to protect them, that we were not able to return them faster.

• Minister of Communications Dr. Shlomo Karai said: "Blessed is He who releases the bound!" Romi, Doron and Emily returned home.

Despite the unbearably difficult images of the Nazis celebrating in Gaza and the terrorists..., today we are all happy and excited to see our loved ones at home again. We will continue to fight until we eliminate terrorism and return everyone home to Gaza soon. The nation of Israel lives [Am Yisrael Chai]."

• Chairman of the Noam Party, Deputy Minister Avi Maoz wrote: "Happy and moved to tears along with the whole House of Israel at the sight of the abductees returning home. Accompanying the joy is a feeling of pain and shame for the fact that after 15 months of fighting the cruel enemy is standing on his feet and did not go down on his knees.

• Member of the Knesset Keti Shitrit wrote:

"Blessed are you, our God, King of the world, who releases the bound."

"The return of Romi, Doron and Emily, refines the soul and uplifts the spirit. I salute the soldiers of the IDF and the security forces, who in the war of resurrection, made their return possible. The State of Israel is committed to repatriating all of the abductees, and will do everything to bring the living to the bosom of their families and the dead to Kever-Yisrael [Jewish burial]."Telling (talk) 16:35, January 19, 2025 (EST)

Thanks Telling for posting this.Dianne3000 (talk) 17:46, January 19, 2025 (EST)

Hamas gives hostages ‘goody bags’ with signed certificates of captivity plus more. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 11:41, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Trump on Biden's pardoning Fauci and Milley...

Trump: "this is a disgrace" he wrote....Dianne3000 (talk) 09:49, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Now comes the real test: accepting the pardons is an acknowledgement of wrongdoing.

A pardon must be accepted (or rejected). Accepting a pardon, for all legal intents and purposes, the same as a guilty plea. is RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 10:33, January 20, 2025 (EST)

One step ahead of the news cycle, again: Donald Trump Jr.: "He doesn’t have to accept the pardon. If he did nothing wrong be a man and turn it down… But you know he won’t because everyone knows he’s guilty of so much." [44] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 17:43, January 20, 2025 (EST)

I was amazed how MSM in broadcasting the inauguration they complained on Trump's criticism of last 4 years And not being conciliatory. This, after Biden did the above, the last minute. And pardoning his family...Dianne3000 (talk) 18:38, January 20, 2025 (EST)

This here is a big pile of doodoo (most of the crowd are elected members Congress, which is how the American people voted). CBS is already being sued for election interference. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:57, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Simple: Trump: Biden family pardons make ‘him look very guilty’Telling (talk) 09:58, January 21, 2025 (EST)

What is the purpose of highlighting promises that may or may never be kept?

[45] For example, President Trump's promise to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours. Is it a broken promise or a lie?

MPR is for news, not broken promises, lies, cheerleading or cheerleading for broken promises and lies.

"I am a big believer in accountability" as an Admin once said. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:54, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Facts vs Pallywood: Gaza fatality estimates: civilian/combatant ratio ~1:1, lowest in modern warfare

KEY THREAD: Gaza Fatality Final Estimates: 51,600 total deaths broken down as follows: 22,600 civilians. 20,000 combatants. 7,000 natural deaths. 2,000 deaths caused by Hamas. Civilian/combatant ratio: ~1:1 See detailed analysis after 15 months of close review... [46]Dianne3000 (talk) 18:35, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Cheers. Pallyweid has plenty of buzzwords...Telling (talk) 21:30, January 20, 2025 (EST)

Musk's NO "nazi" salute, but Islamist Mehdi Hasan "non-Muslims are animals" pretends to define antisemitism & Nazism

(On Mehdi Hasan reminder[47]).

AOC accused of "Jewsplaining" to ADL over Elon Musk gesture. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and journalist Mehdi Hassan accused of attempting to dictate to Jews what antisemitism is after they attacked the ADL's comment that Elon Musk did not make a Nazi salute. today.Telling (talk) 17:40, January 21, 2025 (EST)

This is what happens on a big news day (or week). The information comes faster than you can comprehend, so the opposition is going to seize on something small and insignificant - and never let you forget. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:47, January 22, 2025 (EST)

• A picture is worth a 1,000 words: Musk w/ yarmulke praying with Jews https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhzE5SqW0AAyyej?format=png&name=smallArticle.Dianne3000 (talk) 23:56, January 23, 2025 (EST)

Bolton stripped of Secret Service protection

This is a tragedy in the making (there's much more that can be written here, past and future). Bolton is the guy who urged Trump to whack Soleimani. The Iranians (both govt and private citizens) have vowed vengeance. A private security detail against those threats would probably bankrupt Bolton. He'll probably have to go into hiding.

The message here from Trump to the NSC is probably something like 'don't think about betraying your duties to me for some other agenda'. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:08, January 22, 2025 (EST)