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:::::::<b>LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now?</b> Syre.. which <u>major</u> Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:41, July 11, 2024 (EDT) | :::::::<b>LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now?</b> Syre.. which <u>major</u> Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:41, July 11, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::::::::[EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:44, July 11, 2024 (EDT) | ::::::::[EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 19:44, July 11, 2024 (EDT) | ||
| + | :::::::::LT, pardon me for saying so but, you're pulling a "Ken", speaking on things you haven't a clue about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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Main page right, re: Vucic & Orban: NATO wants war in the next 60 days.
Main page right, re: Vucic & Orban: NATO wants war in the next 60 days.[2]
Related to this is the news story: World War 3 could break out 'within months' as massive death toll predicted, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has warned that the current escalation in tensions between Russia and the West will spill over into all-out war within three months, Irish Star, JUNE 18 2024
So what is Conservapedia going to do if WWWIII does not happen within 2-3 months and RobSmith has egg on its face?
In the past, I recall Andy saying he didn't want doom and gloom, sensationalism "new stories" on main page right. Conservative (talk) 21:53, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Col Douglas Macgregor responds: 30 sec. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:34, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- If memory serves, and I think it does, this is not the first "news story" about WWWIII on main page right. So Conservapedia's track record does not appear to be good on the WWIII "news story" front. Conservative (talk) 22:03, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- President Trump: 'We're heading into World War Three, in my opinion, with this man semi-running things because he’s not running things.' [3] Looks like Trump is just another paranoid nucleomituphobia idiot as you document in your Essays. But I want to thank you for doing yeoman's work for Biden and the globalists over the past 2 years, and retarding conservative readers understanding of foreign policy issues at this crucial moment with such limited time remaining. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:58, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- You're right. Bidenomics is a glorious thing and Putin is a threat. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:27, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith, do you believe that the NATO will go to war in the next 60 days and WWIII will start? If so, why? If you don't think this will happen in 60-90 days, then why did you put it on MPR? Conservative (talk) 22:30, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Uh duh, I didn't make the prediction, I'm reporting what two high profile conservative leaders say (which the MSM ignores).
- RobSmith, do you believe that the NATO will go to war in the next 60 days and WWIII will start? If so, why? If you don't think this will happen in 60-90 days, then why did you put it on MPR? Conservative (talk) 22:30, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- You're right. Bidenomics is a glorious thing and Putin is a threat. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:27, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- btw, when you're a smoking pile of ash, it'll be fun listening to you say how the Chinese real estate market is about to collapse. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:05, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Personally, I believe NATO has been at war with Russia for 10 years, and WWIII started 2 years ago. But I'm not narcissistic. It doesn't matter what I think or believe. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:07, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
I noticed you didn't answer my question(s). I don't expect that MPR will improve. Conservative (talk) 23:08, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- It would be in far better shape if you would stop trolling me on international relations. But you've left me no time now for well rounded, balanced reporting on foreign & domestic matters. Why do you think I asked for a topic ban? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:12, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I used to get up at 2 AM to catch reports from the war zone, which needed to be translated from various languages, verified, and corroborated. MSM didn't report this stuff. Conservapedia had 18k daily visitors then. But you killed it, now down to 5k, leaving me with nothing but time on my hands to troll you back and expose you for the destructive fraud that you are. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:23, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Hey, do you have any sisters that the Republicans and Democrats are about to conscript? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:10, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- You believe that WWIII started 2 years ago? I have no further questions. Conservative (talk) 23:14, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Update from one of your favorites neocon rags: Telegraph (UK): Why it’s too late to stop World War 3. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:29, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: Budanov: Situation will remain difficult for at least 1 more month. What does NATO have planned? more terrorist attacks on civilians? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:45, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- See Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come. Virtually all 75 qualified, authoritive sources of whatever ideological stripe or nationality all say the same thing. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:17, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- You believe that WWIII started 2 years ago? I have no further questions. Conservative (talk) 23:14, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Let's play connect-the-dots: the GOP House and Democrat Senate just passed military draft bills, and two conservative leaders saying NATO plans military action in 2 months is all one and the same story. So this answers your question(s). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:32, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Russian China North Korea Iran to form largest military alliance in the history of mankind, June 20, 2024. User:Conservative has only fanned the flames of conflict and impeded good information for more than 1 year now. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:06, June 21, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: Third World War Has Been Cancelled. It was all too difficult, finally. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:20, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: Stephen Bryen: Ukraine War Will End in Surrender. There will not be negotiations with Zelensky. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:30, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- WWIII Update: Casualties Reported After North Korean Soldiers Cross Military Demarcation Line. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:06, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Here's the sad truth about WWIII: It will not be between left & right, liberals and conservatives. It's between ordinary people and the global fascists. So you will have to either align with socialists & communists, or globalists. Personal remark removed
- The question comes down to "trust in institutions", as you see in polling data. Do you think the legacy media, MSM, is doing a good job keeping you informed and reporting facts? Do you think the deep state, CIA & FBI are trustworthy? Do you think Biden won the 2020 election fair and square? Do you think election deniers are insurrectionists? Do you think Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat? Do you think covid originated in nature? Do you think a man can become a woman? Do you think school boards have the best interests of children at heart? Etc. etc. etc.
- User:Conservative has done more than enough over many years to tarnish the conservative movement and CP's reputation. And it stems from his blind faith in institutions. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:21, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Caitlin Johnstone: Everything In Our Civilization Is Stacked To Keep Us Believing The Propaganda. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:23, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- I'm not in the habit of, nor really like making predictions. But I will in this instance.
- Focusing on Biden is a waste of space, given the consensus view he's about to get dumped from the Democrat ticket (odds on favorite now is Gavin Newsom, possibly Hillary or Michael Robinson, maybe even Kamala). My prediction: if Biden gets dumped, whoever the new Trump challenger is will begin (either shortly before or immediately after Biden gets dumped) making statements about Russia virtually cut n pasted from User:Conservatives "international politics" Essays.
- Take it to the bank (if the banks haven't collapsed by then). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:05, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
Trans. Islamic racist..
This is not rare: jewhatedb: 🚨🚨 #EXPOSED Myles Utz assaulted a visibly elderly Jewish man near W 86th Street & Amsterdam Avenue, shouting Jew hate slurs, throwing glass jars, and spitting at the elderly man and other Jewish individuals nearby. Myles Utz is originally from Mentor, Ohio. Myles moved to Queens, NY on June 13th as indicated on his facebook page. According to his facebook page, he is employed by the US Census Bureau and Fedex. (Information might not be up to date). Myles Utz, 28, identifies as trans and has been previously attacked and assaulted because of that. The attack was investigated as a hate crime. Hypocritical much? Myles Utz you have been officially added to the database. Good luck. June 19, 2024. link.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Does Mr. Or Mrs or He she them they Utz know what they would do to him in Islamic "palestine" Gaza or W.B.?Telling (talk) 15:49, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- We got a page to list this incident here: Incidences of violence by transgender individuals. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:02, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
Cotton to Biden: 'You’re playing politics with our ally’s security' (Islamist lobbies / Arab oil money grip on Dem.)
A courageous voice. God bless him. "Senator Tom Cotton writes letter to Biden, criticizing his administration for withholding weapons and ammunition from Israel as it continues to battle Hamas."[4] While CAIR Islamist lobby (not just Arab votes in Michigan) and Qatar money shift Dems. even more to the radical trend. Telling (talk) 03:23, June 21, 2024 (EDT)
- This is a flip flop from last fall, when the Biden regime prioritized Israel and put Ukraine on the back burner. Stephen Bryen identifies the weapons being withheld: JDAM kits to convert conventional bombs into glide bombs: "JDAM remains in demand. Israel, which has its own version of JDAM (more sophisticated and more expensive than JDAM) has ordered thousands. ...There is considerable controversy over the delivery of JDAM kits, especially for the larger size bombs, which Israel claims have been blocked." [5]
- If the offensive goes forward in the next 2-3 weeks as billed, Israel will need the glide bomb kits cause Hezbollah is said to be as dug in on the Northern Israel border as Ukraine was around Avdiivka. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:18, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
- What's puzzling is why the Pentagon would prioritize JDAM & glide bombs for Ukraine, given that Ukraine has no airforce. Unless the West wants to experiment using F-16s armed with glide bombs against Russian air defense and electronic warfare. That would be a pointless exercise, given that it won't make any difference and the equipment is needed elsewhere, where it can and will make a difference.
- Then again, maybe the sickos and our supposed "strategic thinkers" want to make it escalatory, experiment in Ukraine while giving time for Russia to share its air defense and electronic capabilities with Iran and Hezbollah so that more people can be killed while they get more money. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:29, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
Chief Justice Roberts orders DOJ to respond to Steve Bannon emergency request by June 26
How will DOJ respond ?[6]?Telling (talk)
- If the Biden DOJ doesn't respond, Bannon wins by default? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:32, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
2 Million Muslims in Indonesia leave Islam for Christianity every year
Hallelujah! Truly, truly, "Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this." (Isaiah 9:7)
"Amid all the news about Islam’s gains around the world, here is some startling news you’ve probably never heard: In Indonesia—the most populous Muslim nation—2 million Muslims are converting to Christianity per year. That’s right. That’s one new convert every 15 seconds. At this rate, Indonesia will be mostly Christian by 2035."[1] Approximately 2 million people in Indonesia leave Islam for Christianity every year.[2] https://www.conservapedia.com/Christianity_in_Indonesia NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:41, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
Nigerian Christians are made of steel
The Judgment of Almighty God is going to overtake Radical Islamism soon, for such criminal, terrorist and violent acts. But Praise God for the faithful and invincibly strong witness of the Nigerian Christians.
"Nigerian Christians are made of steel. Islamists burned down their church. They showed up to worship in the burnt building."
https://x.com/JohnnieM/status/1804575220730126714 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:08, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
- No argument here.Telling (talk)
- Muslim Extremists Abduct Second Church Leader in Three Weeks. International Christian Concern, June 24, 2024 [7]Telling (talk) 18:04, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
Paul Craig Roberts
Some time ago I posted Paul Craig Roberts, the father of supply side economics, on MPR, and received some pushback for it. So I'll post an excerpt of his piece here today which describes the sickness that has overtaken the West, America, the conservative movement, Conservapedia. and User:Conservative. [8]
| "The liberals, the left-wing, the Woke are the ones who destroyed the cultural knowledge of the West, thereby depriving the people of the ability to confront evil. For the liberal-left-Woke destroyers of civilization, spiritual evil is incomprehensible. For them the only evils are Trump, “white racism” and “Putin’s aggression.”
In the liberal-left-Woke matrix there are no other evils. The West no longer rests on a Western culture. It rests on sexual perversion and the promotion by governments, corporations, and universities of transgenderism and critical race theory. Western nations have been replaced with Sodom and Gomorrahs and towers of babel. Enemies are necessary to justify the US military/security complex’s massive budget and power. The more enemies the larger the budget and power. There is not much more hope in American conservatives than there is in the liberal-left-Woke contingent. Conservatives confuse their country with the government. As Albert Jay Nock and Thomas Jefferson clearly explained, the two are entirely different. But it is an important distinction that is over the heads of many conservatives. Solzhenitsyn told us that when respect for religion, traditional values, family, and religious faith are stripped from a society, society has been disarmed and no protection remains against the triumph of evil. As the liberal-left-Woke contingent has stripped away these protections, evil is now the dominant power in the Western World. Russia, China and Iran do not confront Western governments capable of reason. They confront unbridled evil. Putin puzzles why the West is so unreasonable. The answer is that evil is unreasonable. You cannot make a deal with it." |
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:54, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
Dagestan: Islamists attack churches & a synagogue - 9 killed including priest
Attack in Russia: Terrorists opened fire in synagogues and churches, 9 killed including priest. Combined attack against non-Muslim houses of worship in the Dagestan region of the North Caucasus; Attack comes in the wake of a host of reports from Russia in recent months about thwarting ISIS attacks against Jewish institutions. [9] Visegrád 24 @visegrad24: BREAKING:Coordinated Islamist terror attacks in Dagestan, Russia. Bearded gunmen dressed in black have attacked a synagogue and a church. At least 6 people k*lled. [10] I presume Putin will handle them.Telling (talk) 16:39, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Putin will blame the CIA; the CIA will say Putin did it himself in order to blame the CIA. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:42, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
- It's already happening. And this guy isn't even getting his talking points from Russian MSM. He instinctively knows. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:36, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Poor priest.Dianne3000 (talk) 06:55, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
- It's already happening. And this guy isn't even getting his talking points from Russian MSM. He instinctively knows. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:36, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
- 15 cops killed. One thing is for sure, Russian police need better training, especially if they're going to go up against CIA proxies.
- This is what happens in societies with restrictive gun laws, the police get lax and aren't always prepared for the danger. But now that Cold War II is an asymmetrical hybrid war with civilians as targets, and is likely to continue for many years, Russian police need to update their training and tactics. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:57, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
Trump calls to watch film on (genocidal palestine) Hamas (Gaza health ministey) atrocities
Trump calls to watch film on Hamas atrocities. It's what The Squad is squashing...YouTube imb info and the horror is that most palestinians still support it.Dianne3000 (talk)
Julian Assange has been freed
"A good man, finally free. The tide is turning."
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1805403306648305836 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:16, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
- When Sarah Palin walked back what she said about Assange and apologized, User:Conservative was sleeping. Now he's gone off on his "Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat" screeds, carrying water for Biden, Hillary, Obama and the deep state. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:28, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Palin Apologizes to Assange, While Paul Ryan Jabs Him As A ‘Sycophant for Russia’. Palin has been No. 12 on Conservapedia's most popular pages since CP was founded, so it's not like User:Conservative hasn't been paying attention. Unfortunately, User:Conservative has become a "sycophant for Paul Ryan, RINOs, the deep state, globalists, neocons, fascists, and warmongers." And you can't say it was just thoughtlessness on User:Conservstive's part - I warned him multiple times two years ago, both publicly and privately - not to go down this path. But he knew better. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:54, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: KASH PATEL BOMBSHELL: PAUL RYAN WAS FIRST TO SEE STEELE DOSSIER. Oh, so Paul Ryan was in on the Russiagate hoax and did nothing to stop it. Nice to see User:Conservative is still a sycophant for Paul Ryan, RINOs and anti-Trump warmongers.
- As long as Andy allows User:Conservative to add Category:International Relations to anything, I refuse to add anything to Category:International Relations. On the positive side, at least User:Conservative is teaching Andy how SEO works on a wiki. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:24, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
Trending on X: Ramaswamy possible as Trump's VP
"Speculation is growing about Donald Trump's potential Vice Presidential (VP) pick for the 2024 election. Vivek Ramaswamy has emerged as a popular choice among some supporters, with his potential to attract the youth vote and his stance against various forms of war being highlighted. However, there is also significant opposition to this choice, with some expressing concerns about his lack of political experience and potential impact on key voting blocks like evangelicals. Other names mentioned as possible VP picks include Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Glenn Youngkin, and JD Vance, each with their own strengths and appeal to different segments of the electorate." From: https://x.com/i/trending/1805879579942568422 I liked DeSantis for Prez to begin with, but I'm ok with Trump/Ramaswamy 2024.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:44, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, if it falls through, I'd like to see Ramaswamy take over the White House Communications Office. The White House Press Secretary is bit more high profile, but it's under the Communications Director. Either position would be a big win.
- Remember, a guy who ran a national campaign has a fairly large staff of paid and unpaid supporters. Ramaswamy would bring all those people with him to fill White House and administration positions. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:23, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
Muslim preacher says: 24% of Muslim Youth leave Islam
This is the future: Christian Evangelism, and Humanist Education, is causing Millions to leave the 6th century philosophy of Islamism, and to regard it as outdated and false, and having no moral guidance for the world today, unlike Christianity. It shows also that the real necessary response to the serious problem of Islamist Extremism is not radical and reckless bombing campaigns which ignore the very human rights we hold sacred, but rather good education and bold preaching that clearly exposes the manifest flaws within Mohammedanism or Islamism. Unlike Christianity, which makes love of neighbor the Greatest Commandment after love of God, and explains all people everywhere are the neihgbor one must love, Islam holds different commandments in importance, and some even hold endless jihad to be the alleged highest of all obligations. But, with education, as the life of Mohammed is more closely scrutinized, many are leaving Islam, and some come to Christ. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:11, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
Edit: The Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YjvzzWRAc4
- A few years ago I did an in-depth examination of jihadism, and I wanted to specifically answer the question why older Muslims would encourage young men to engage in such self-destructive behavior. And I came up with this thesis: that jihadism is akin to youthful rebelliousness common to virtually all societies and cultures, only in the case of Islam, it is encouraged to be directed outward against other societies, cultures, and communities rather than inward as you see in the West where young rebels spray paint walls, turn over garbage cans and engage in other rebellious conduct of varying degrees. In Islam, the elders encourage this mindless conduct, and direct it against "the other". telling young people "this is how you can serve God".
- As for the killing part, it's not that different from how Western and other societies recruit people to serve in the military, only the brainwashing begins at about age 12, so by the time a jihadi becomes 17 or 18, the society, its elders and traditions, have a pretty good grip on containing young people from doing harm to their own society, culture, community, and neighborhood. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:40, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
VP betting odds 24 hours before the first debate: Burgum, Ramaswamy, and Vance are the top-tier choices
See here.
Also, there are an additional seven second-tier choices who can be considered dark horses: Ben Carson, Byron Donalds, Marco Rubio, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Tim Scott, Elise Stefanik, and Glenn Youngkin.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:17, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Youngkin? Yikes. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:05, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
- As a dark horse, yes. As a top tier choice, no.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:40, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
- My take: Bergum (executive branch experience) and Vance (ideological successor) are the only two contenders. Note: Neither Trump, Pence or Vance had executive branch experience.
- On the face of things, Rubio appears to be an appeal to Hispanic voters, but constitutionally can't run cause both candidates can't be from the same state, so it's just pure propaganda. In my own view I think it's more advertising that Trump now has a direct pipeline into the deep state, which will happen when Rubio takes over chair of SSCI (99% certainty).
- Younkin shows that Trump thinks Virginia, and possibly North Carolina electoral votes are in play.
- The rest are classic appeals to identity politics, women and blacks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:18, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
UPDATE: As of 9 PM tonight, the time the debate is scheduled to begin, Ben Carson has moved up to major contender status. However, at this point I expect Trump to pick Burgum. On a related note, Elise Stefanik has fallen out of dark horse status. The final list of major contenders are Burgum, Carson, Ramaswamy, and Vance. The final list of dark horses are Donalds, Rubio, Sanders, Scott, and Youngkin.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:06, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Speaker supports LA. Ten Commandments law
House Speaker: I support Louisiana's Ten Commandments law. House Speaker Mike Johnson says he supports Louisiana’s new law mandating the Ten Commandments to be displayed in school classrooms, says he thinks the law will survive legal challenges.IsraelNationalNews. Good. I hope this spreads.Telling (talk) 16:31, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
The big man has a new nickname by Trump "a bad weak palestinian"
Biden ‘a very bad … weak’ Palestinian, Trump says at debate. The current and former US presidents clashed briefly but explosively on Israel in a debate that raises questions about Biden’s age and fitness for office. By Andrew Bernard | Jun 28, 2024 Israel Today (IsraelToday is a Christian site).
From EoZ: Trump used the word "Palestinian" as a pejorative. He's right, EoZ, June 28, 2024.
Trump is saying that Biden is taking the Palestinian side in the conflict. This is presumably what Hasan wants as well.
Assuming that Trump used the word in a negative way, he's right. And this is part of the story about Palestinians that no one wants to say.
70-80% of Palestinians support specific terror attacks against Jewish civilians, after the fact, during the last 20 years of polling. These include some of the most horrific attacks like the slaughter of rabbis in Har Nof in 2014, with axes and cleavers.
80% of Palestinians surveyed, in a poll done by Palestinians, said they supported the attack.
In 2008, a terrorist entered the Mercaz Harav yeshiva and started mowing down students. 8 were killed, including 4 children. When Palestinians were asked if they supported that attack, 84% said they did.
In 2003, when asked about the Maxim restaurant suicide bombing in Haifa that murdered 21 including a two month old baby, 75% of Palestinians said they supported it.
And more recent polls show that over 75% of Palestinians supported the October 7 pogrom.
75% isn't 100%, but no one can deny that as a society, Palestinians support murdering innocent Jewish civilians, no matter where they live. Many of them openly cheer those murders.
What kind of people cheer terror attacks? Of course they should be vilified and insulted for their attitudes. Using the word "Palestinian" as a pejorative is quite reasonable without there being any significant Palestinian pushback against the cult of death that their society promotes.
Telling (talk) 12:28, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Okay, I understand all this. Some will say, 'it's peer pressure' or 'social pressure', like Putin getting 88% of the vote (or this morning Biden still having 74% of Democrats). The good news is, it's down from 80-84% to 75% since Oct. 7.
- My question is: Do we have reliable stats on what percentage of the general population speak or read English? That may have some impact on social attitudes, either pro or con. Also, do we have stats on levels of education & literacy in whatever language, cause they're getting their information from somewhere to shape public opinion. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:27, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Using an ethnic classification as a derogative slur is racist and morally objectionable, period. Racism is a liberal trait, remember? —
LTRev. 22:13 Sunday, 12:35, July 7, 2024 (EDT)- Dear LT. I agree. That would be true if he used the word 'Arab' which is their ethnicity. But he referred to the culture. (Nor are "Israelis" a reference to ethnicity, in general, unless it's a masked usage cover for the oldest bigotry on record). Telling (talk) 13:13, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- [EC] Still, the implied designation of Palestinian culture as inherently "antisemitic" is akin to calling a victimized grade school kid "hateful" for despising the bully who torments them. I'd rather not get into a nasty time-consuming argument here, and this video more or less sums it up. —
LTRev. 22:13 Sunday, 13:16, July 7, 2024 (EDT)- Obviously I'm against that rant in clip. But there is legitimate criticism of their education system:
- [EC] Still, the implied designation of Palestinian culture as inherently "antisemitic" is akin to calling a victimized grade school kid "hateful" for despising the bully who torments them. I'd rather not get into a nasty time-consuming argument here, and this video more or less sums it up. —
- Dear LT. I agree. That would be true if he used the word 'Arab' which is their ethnicity. But he referred to the culture. (Nor are "Israelis" a reference to ethnicity, in general, unless it's a masked usage cover for the oldest bigotry on record). Telling (talk) 13:13, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
In a global survey of antisemitism, 93% of Palestinians were found to hold antisemitic views. Stemming from incitementTelling (talk) 13:28, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
Florida Islamic Activist: We're Turning Churches into Mosques. Imam Muhammad Musri, Who Claims To Be Advisor On Islam To U.S. Government Agencies.
Florida Imam Muhammad Musri, Who Claims To Be Advisor On Islam To U.S. Government Agencies, In San Francisco Bay Area Sermon: Many Christians Are Leaving The Church; We Are Jumping On The Opportunity – Islam Is The Answer For Them; We Are Buying Churches And Converting Them Into Mosques; These Communities Will Become Muslim, Filled With Converts And Reverts; We Are Returning The Favor For The Invasion Of The Muslim World By Christian Missionaries And Bringing The Light Of Islam Here. Just wondering if he was hired by Biden admin.Telling (talk) 22:19, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative needs to watch some of this; much of it contradicts a lot of what he's uploaded over the past 10 years about the "victories" of Christianity. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:33, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- We should be grateful that at least some Islamic lobbiests are honest...whereas most engage in Taqqyia...Telling (talk) 14:52, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- For 15-20 years America has been in denial, saying the problem is "over there". No, the problem is here, in California, Florida, and elsewhere. The imam has that part right - we don't know how or aren't raising our children properly, and leaving them with spiritual hunger. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:04, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- We should be grateful that at least some Islamic lobbiests are honest...whereas most engage in Taqqyia...Telling (talk) 14:52, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
Anybody know how to upload this gif so it can be posted on the Main Page?
[11] RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:18, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
- Here it is: https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Time_trump_(1).gif Conservative (talk) 01:09, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Gracias, mi amigo. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:22, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Hope you don't mind, I moved some of you footnotes into the body of text here. It probably needs to be prefaced with some attribution, like "According to such and such source, bla bla bla...". Then we can paste it into a couple different pages (Biden's age, 2024 Trump campaign, etc.) RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:16, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
Immunity
Can Biden now be prosecuted for his abuse of the prosecutorial powers of the DOJ in 2024 election interference? Can Trump 47 be prosecuted for prosecuting Biden for Biden's abuse of the Biden DOJ in prosecuting Trump in 2024 election interference?
The answer is probably no, but anybody in between who carried out Biden's criminal schemes may be liable to criminal prosecution. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There
Louisiana Imam At Friday Sermon: 'Oh Allah, Annihilate The Jews And The Christians
Lafayette, Louisiana Imam At Friday Sermon: 'Oh Allah, Annihilate The Jews And The Christians... Their Helpers, Kill Them One By One, Do Not Spare A Single One.' The imam was Mohamad El-Saleh, whom according to news reports, represented the Islamic Center at a November 7, 2023 interfaith prayer for peace in the Middle East along with Christian and Jewish faith leaders and government officials at the Lafayette city hall. [12]Telling (talk) 16:31, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
What happens if Biden drops out?
While Donald Trump gave his best debate performance ever, Joe Biden looked like a patient who had escaped from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. We are used to him losing his train of thought. In this debate, he did it several times in a single sentence. He blamed Trump for "family" separations at the border, although this policy was a result of a 1997 court decision called the Flores settlement. What solution is he proposing anyway? That children should stay with whoever traffics them across the border?
Biden told us that no U.S. soldiers were killed on his watch. Does he not remember the thirteen who were killed in the Kabul airport bombing? The man is quite comfortable making up nonsense as he goes along.
Following the debate, the New York Times called on Joe Biden to drop out of the presidential race. Liberal comedians have turned on him. But with backing from a family conclave, from Barack Obama, and from Bill Clinton, Biden apparently has no intention of dropping out. Its all about Jill Biden, who can't get enough of being first lady, they say. For all the uproar about Biden's performance, the Biden/Trump poll numbers haven't moved at all.
For the incumbent to trail prior to the first debate and then lose the debate is a disastrous omen. For years, the Dems have stressed that Trump is an existential threat and they were the party that would protect us from him. By that metric, Biden is now a liability. If they keep him on the ticket anyway, the Dems are a party that stands for what, exactly?
Sadly, the political wonk's dream of an open convention is unlikely. The Democratic National Committee has the power to pick a nominee without consulting the convention.
The precedent that comes to mind is 1944. The delegates to the Democratic Convention understood that President Franklin Roosevelt was at death's door, but nominated him for another term anyway. For the vice presidential nomination, they switched out Stalin fanboy Henry Wallace for U.S. Senator Harry Truman over Roosevelt's objections. PeterKa (talk) 20:30, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Over FDR's objections? we got a whole section on that: Clear It with Sidney (the citation from Time magazine Sep. 25, 1944 is actually quite humorous). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:27, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Another scenario short of the LBJ option: if Biden met an untimely demise in his sleep between now and the election, or even afterward, nobody would raise an eyelid and only wonder what took God so long. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:32, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- As of now, if Kamala replaces him, that should benefit us. Presumably. Telling (talk) 21:41, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- By 1944, FDR had become quite conservative and wanted former South Carolina Senator James Byrnes as his running mate. PeterKa (talk) 22:07, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Byrnes became Sec of State. There was a time there in the early Cold War where we had like 6 Secs of State in 5 years. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:41, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- According to here, Anita Dunn, and her husband Bob Bauer have been running things - (which I've said since the beginning) - only the Biden family kicked em out. So if Kamala takes over at whatever point in time, we'd still have the same clowns in second tier positions (Blinken, Sullivan, Austin, Garland, Mayorkas, Granholm, Bootyboy etc etc and their staffs and flunkies). Only the Senior Advisor may change (most presidents have 1 or 2, a few 3 or 4). Susan Rice may gain with Dunn out.
- Whatever, even the ballot box stuffers are demoralized at this point, and may not show up for work. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:34, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- What I meant to say that if Kamala replaces him will benefit us, I meant in winning the elections.Telling (talk) 03:07, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- That's right. Kamala's been the insurance policy all along. And that's what the Biden family had to remind themselves of at their Camp David powwow, after tossing a few fall guys overboard. 03:37, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- What I meant to say that if Kamala replaces him will benefit us, I meant in winning the elections.Telling (talk) 03:07, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- By 1944, FDR had become quite conservative and wanted former South Carolina Senator James Byrnes as his running mate. PeterKa (talk) 22:07, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- As of now, if Kamala replaces him, that should benefit us. Presumably. Telling (talk) 21:41, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- "WTH is happening? Senior White House advisors..." says everything. It means there's been a shakeup at the top, with his most trusted advisors out (Dunn & Klain) and new Top Advisors in (Jill & Hunter).
- Where's Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe when you need them, to deny Hunter a security clearance? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:08, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- When the fecal material hits the rotary air moving device, you turn to the smartest guy you know...
- This article looks at the polling data and concludes that Harris is the most plausible option if Biden drops out. PeterKa (talk) 00:05, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
Ok, it's becoming increasingly clear...
Kamala has to be the nominee. It all hinges on the question of what to do with the $91 million 2024 Biden campaign election fund. The Biden/Kamala ticket has to be nominated first, then Biden drops out. Then Kamala inherits the war chest. It's too late for Newsom or Bootyboy or whoever to raise enough money to run, and dumping Kamala for another VP risks a racial backlash in the Democrat voter base. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:54, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- This all depends on Democrats following election finance laws. I don't know when that's ever been an impediment.
Political Speak for Dummies: CBS News: Biden tells campaign staffers he's "in this race to the end". Well, yah. The end comes when he officially withdraws. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:14, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- Harris has a signature phrase now: "What can be, unburden by what has been." It's best when she adds a "you know" at the end. Because we all know. PeterKa (talk) 21:11, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- Look at the date here: May 28, 2024. CBS News: "DNC plans to nominate Biden and Harris virtually before convention". So this plan has been in the works for a while. Followed by the earliest debate ever (knowing Biden, he agreed to having a "cognitive test" televised before the nation. he's never been afraid of standing before humanity and making a fool of himself).
- In the DNC bylaws, the DNC Committee makes the nomination. The 4,000+ delegates are cosmetic. The standing Committee consists of a variable number of approximately 264-279 members who are the same as "Superdelegates" (they include all federal, some statewide elected officials such as governors & Lt. governors, big city mayors, etc. So the number is constantly changing cause of state and local election schedules). They nominate the candidate (as happened when Sargent Shriver replaced Tom Eagleton in 1972).
- In today's world, it can be done on a Zoom call, outside a televised convention. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:28, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- And let's not forget Roger Stone's prediction: Kamala steps aside for Michelle in exchange for a promise for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS. 21:52, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- Here’s How It Would Work to Replace Biden Before or During the Democratic Convention. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 07:05, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Kamala is emerging as the mamala: "Seven Biden Staffers Leak Support for Kamala Harris to Replace Joe Biden." I'm still hopping for an open convention.
- This is the actual top story in the MSM at the moment: "Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m." Biden has two modes: Sleepy Joe and shouty Joe. "President (George W.) Bush went to bed at 9, and President (Barack) Obama made dinner at 6:30,” Okay, but is this really the right time to bring it up? PeterKa (talk) 19:11, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- They think the whole kerfuffle will blow over in a week (as Politico says) but it won't. They're just trying to stall long enough to get the money in Kamala's hands (read the CBS link above about nomination before convention). I mean, what Superdelegate wants to say, "I voted for Joe Biden at the convention"? The DNC has to transfer the change in authority to Kamala first, then rubber stamp the change at the convention.
- Alternative scenario: Some group of anonymous donors comes forward with $91+ million for an alternative candidate and a workable plan to kick the can down the road past November regarding improprieties.
- 2nd Alternative plan: Biden signs off on a hit job on Trump as a threat to national security and an "official act" with a National Security Decision Directive and Trump is placed at the top of the Disposition Matrix. Then it's moot whoever the candidates are on either side. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:03, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- The business of going to bed at 8PM is meaningless. As soon as he flies across timezones to load his pants on stage while honoring veterans like at Normandy screws everything up again for weeks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:27, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Why not Kamala? Lest we forget, the party establishment also rallied to Kamala in 2020. Tulsi Gabbard took her down in this amazing clip, thereby saving Biden's candidacy. PeterKa (talk) 04:43, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Looks like it's going to be Trump 48, not 47. We need somebody to step up and handle the short-lived career of this nations 47th President and her Kamala_Harris#2024_presidential_election. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 05:03, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Has anybody noticed how the MSM suddenly tries to reshape Kamala's image?Dianne3000 (talk) 05:28, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Here's a good one: Let's Remember That Time Kamala Talked About Investing in Depopulation. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:50, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Has anybody noticed how the MSM suddenly tries to reshape Kamala's image?Dianne3000 (talk) 05:28, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Looks like it's going to be Trump 48, not 47. We need somebody to step up and handle the short-lived career of this nations 47th President and her Kamala_Harris#2024_presidential_election. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 05:03, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Why not Kamala? Lest we forget, the party establishment also rallied to Kamala in 2020. Tulsi Gabbard took her down in this amazing clip, thereby saving Biden's candidacy. PeterKa (talk) 04:43, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- The business of going to bed at 8PM is meaningless. As soon as he flies across timezones to load his pants on stage while honoring veterans like at Normandy screws everything up again for weeks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:27, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- It's easy to see what's going on here; Biden's got Kamala, deep state mouthpiece Mark Warner, donors on strike, the liberal media, etc etc standing over him with the 25th Amendment stick, while Biden's family, Jill & Hunter saying "don't do it don't do it". Who, in his enfeebled mind (after firing his top political advisors) does he listen to? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:26, July 6, 2024 (EDT)
- Intelligencer: "the president was becoming increasingly hard to get ahold of, even as it related to official government business, the type of things any U.S. president would communicate about on a regular basis with high-level officials across the world. Biden instead was cocooned within mounting layers of bureaucracy, spoken for more than he was speaking or spoken to."
- This means if Jake Sullivan tries to get ahold of him at 2AM to tell him Russian ICBMs are incoming, Jill and Hunter are the ones with their fingers on the nuclear codes (Remember, he just fired his top Advisors and isn't taking their advice). Funny thing, Jill and Hunter don't even like each other. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:45, July 6, 2024 (EDT)
- Biden: "It was a bad night." This is reminiscent of how Nancy responded during Reagan's long secluded convalescence with Alzheimer's: "There's good days and bad days." RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:18, July 6, 2024 (EDT)
25th Amendment
This is what the 25th Amendment is for - taking out one of your own. Impeachment is for taking out opponents. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:48, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
US soccer team disaster
US soccer team eliminated in group stage in Copa America after losing to Uruguay. US who is about to host World Cup after two years has turned woke under Biden presidency and Cindy Cone US soccer federation presidency, by showing gay pride colors on their T-shirts.
USMNT Pride jerseys, explained: Why team will wear rainbow kit during Brazil friendly
US lost two games against Panama and Uruguay. And referees turned to be biased against US. Nobody fear and respect US anymore.
Calls Mount for USA-Uruguay Copa America Ref to be Investigated --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:53, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- Is this men or women we're talking about, both or all three? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:32, July 2, 2024 (EDT)
- Not surprising. Are they flying the LGBT flag? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:16, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
- They printed their T-shirts with gay pride colors
USMNT Pride jerseys, explained: Why team will wear rainbow kit during Brazil friendly --Alex Kosh (talk) 01:18, July 3, 2024 (EDT)
Yep, it's an asymmetrical war
Only the Russians aren't targeting civilians, as the CIA/NATO has. They are more civilized. (Perhaps eventually through proxies). Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:09, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
'Reporters' say they suppressed Biden's decline because 'right-wing media' WAS reporting it
'Reporters' say they suppressed Biden's decline because 'right-wing media' WAS reporting it. 'It is a telling admission.' By Bob Unruh. July 4, 2024 [13] Honesty is good policy...Telling (talk) 05:13, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- New York Intelligencer: The Conspiracy of Silence to Protect Joe Biden. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 05:30, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- I'm surprised that nymag would had the gutz to say that. Good.Dianne3000 (talk) 06:16, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Biden has “lost all independence”. Translation: Somebody else has to wipe his butt, literally. We reported on him "losing all independence" to the CCP years ago. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:27, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: WH AIDES CONFIRM HE’S ONLY “DEPENDABLY ENGAGED” FOR 25% OF THE DAY! This means his Depends have to be changed every 6 hours.
- Kari Lake: Biden 'back in diapers again'. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:37, July 6, 2024 (EDT)
- I'm surprised that nymag would had the gutz to say that. Good.Dianne3000 (talk) 06:16, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
And now Senator Mark Warner (head of the Senate Intelligence Committee) is trying to assemble a group of Senators to talk Biden into dropping out of the race. And this isn't from some "right-wing media" claiming another "Deep State conspiracy", it's the Washington Post reporting this. Quidam65 (talk) 17:38, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- This is good: Parasitic "Blob" Class Needs New Host Body [14] The problem is, we need a better qualification of who Mike Benz is. Tucker have him a ringing endorsement a couple months back. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:42, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Speaking of "right wing," that old Liberal Amanpour, interviewed M. La Pen and she began by saying that it's scary that the "far-right" wins... To which La Pen responded: I resent the term "far-right", it's meant as a pejorative. We are not like the extreme far right in the US... "Telling (talk) 19:37, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- She lost ayway.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:43, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
Historic wipeout: Tories get 24 percent in UK election
The Labour Party in Britain has won a "historic" victory with 34 percent of the vote. That is to say, the left in Britain is even less popular than it is in the U.S. After Brexit, Britain was expelled from the common European market. Yet the Conservative government in London failed to deregulate the economy or reduce immigration. So Britain suffered the downside of Brexit while failing to take advantage of any potential upside. Here is analysis by Nigel Farage. PeterKa (talk) 07:58, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- It's a huge loss. And I don't know who was the "smart" one "strategist" to attack Starmer for his Friday night family time.... alienating Jews on one hand, then you have TMV Muslim Lobby (The Muslim Vote) working hard. In other words, losing big on PR.Telling (talk) 09:14, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- The MSM is blaming the loss on David Cameron's austerity budgets. That was ten years ago. (Brexit went into effect in January 2020.) PeterKa (talk) 09:39, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Historic very low turnout also played a role, while Muslims turned out in masses. But the main issue was the economy, people voted for ANY change. It was more of an anti present...Dianne3000 (talk)
- The MSM is blaming the loss on David Cameron's austerity budgets. That was ten years ago. (Brexit went into effect in January 2020.) PeterKa (talk) 09:39, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Having destroyed the "Conservative party" brand name, Labour will charge full speed ahead with the WEF/LGBT agenda. Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:36, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Labour's share of the vote declined from 40 percent in 2019 to 34 percent this time around. In 2019, Labour's problems were blamed on left-wing extremist Jeremy Corbyn, who was supposedly driving voters away. This time around, Labour leader Keir Starmer plans to push hard on the climate issue. If Britons thought they were voting to turn the economy around, they are in for a surprise. PeterKa (talk) 21:24, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Having destroyed the "Conservative party" brand name, Labour will charge full speed ahead with the WEF/LGBT agenda. Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:36, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
Project 2025 is a load of Communist idiocy
Long story short: it is a blueprint for reviving Papal-Caesarist ideology of theistic, Nazarene Communism, considering the religious credentials of Heritage Foundation head Kevin Roberts. The present Hegelian conflict between the economically socialist progressive left and Orange Bolshevist (Trumpist) "far right" will lead to a synthesis that is none other than the reactionary, Communistic, wealth-distributing thievery of Jesuitism. (see E. M. Josephson, "The Federal Reserve Conspiracy & Rockefellers," p. 3)
"Right-wing" Trumpism = Bolshevist Communism. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 12:16, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- "Orange Bolshevist" LOL. Problem here is, from a narrative engineering POV is, it gets confused with Orange color revolution. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- What difference at this point does it make? —
LTRev. 22:13 Sunday, 18:27, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- What difference at this point does it make? —
Why would the "toss-Biden-under-the-bus" effort be directly connected to Russia?
At the end of the day, Biden is a stooge taking orders from his Jesuit/Knights of Malta–controlled bosses. No matter which establishment politician rules, the U.S. will inevitably be hawkishly anti-Russia and pro-Ukronazi. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:42, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- The current bout of Russophobia in The Blob is just a hiccup in US-Russian relations ever since Moscow sent leftist dominance of their country packing. Things will return to its natural state of friendship once we in America get these leftist and neocon pro-LGBT warmongers under control (you too, User:Conservative). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:09, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, it's too bad that Mango Caesar will turn America into a theistic, "Nazrene" Communist hellhole, aka installing the final form of Revelation's second beast/False Prophet which enforces the mark of the beast. —
LTRev. 22:13 Monday, 22:13, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, it's too bad that Mango Caesar will turn America into a theistic, "Nazrene" Communist hellhole, aka installing the final form of Revelation's second beast/False Prophet which enforces the mark of the beast. —
- What have you been smoking? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:14, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- It's really not that that hard to understand, RobSmith: Trump was trained at the Jesuit-controlled Fordham University and mentored by 33rd-degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peale, who taught Mango Caesar to worship himself. Go back and read Rev. 13-19: the second beast/False Prophet, aka the United States, enforces the dogmas of the first beast/Antichrist, aka the Vatican, to bring about the mark of the beast. Trump's agenda is guaranteed to usher in the Christian Nationalist agenda of Project 2025 which promises to enact a Sunday Law; and one of its chief leaders, Kevin Roberts, is a right-wing Catholic theocrat. Now, Catholic social teaching = Nazarene Communism (Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Rerum Novarum is basically just the Communist Manifesto), so Catholic theocracy = theistic-reactionary Communist tyranny. Anyways, as to the Sunday Law, it is the Vatican's self-professed "mark" of authority, which says all you need to know. —
LTRev. 22:13 Monday, 22:26, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- It's really not that that hard to understand, RobSmith: Trump was trained at the Jesuit-controlled Fordham University and mentored by 33rd-degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peale, who taught Mango Caesar to worship himself. Go back and read Rev. 13-19: the second beast/False Prophet, aka the United States, enforces the dogmas of the first beast/Antichrist, aka the Vatican, to bring about the mark of the beast. Trump's agenda is guaranteed to usher in the Christian Nationalist agenda of Project 2025 which promises to enact a Sunday Law; and one of its chief leaders, Kevin Roberts, is a right-wing Catholic theocrat. Now, Catholic social teaching = Nazarene Communism (Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Rerum Novarum is basically just the Communist Manifesto), so Catholic theocracy = theistic-reactionary Communist tyranny. Anyways, as to the Sunday Law, it is the Vatican's self-professed "mark" of authority, which says all you need to know. —
- Why does the pope wear a yarmulke? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:48, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Why? Because of liberal ecumenical syncretism. Of course, that process is now essentially complete, so the Vatican is reverting back to its reactionary traditions gradually. [15][16] —
LTRev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:04, July 9, 2024 (EDT)- Maybe the pope who adopted the tradition was a kabbalist, or at least wanted to create the impression? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Why? Because of liberal ecumenical syncretism. Of course, that process is now essentially complete, so the Vatican is reverting back to its reactionary traditions gradually. [15][16] —
- Why does the pope wear a yarmulke? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:48, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Specifically to answer your question: the neocon globalists (and User:Conservative) want to continue the NATO war in Ukraine (and its inflationary effects). The public backlash against the policy has led to dumping 3 UK prime ministers, electoral upsets in France, Slovakia, Italy and elsewhere. This is where talk of "Trump-proofing" the neo-fascist NATO war on Russia comes from. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:31, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Sundance explains: Furrowed Brow Speaks About Need to Replace Biden on Behalf of the State Dept Who are Worried About Losing Ukraine Money if Trump Wins. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:21, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- How about not blaming half of everything on a third-rate New York miser? Believe me, I probably get just as fed up with his debauchery as you do. —
LTRev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:05, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- How about not blaming half of everything on a third-rate New York miser? Believe me, I probably get just as fed up with his debauchery as you do. —
- The subject of this discussion is why neocons want to toss Biden under the boss. The answer is fear of Trump taking the punchbowl away from the party. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:14, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
The military industrial complex bubble
You've heard of stock market bubbles and housing bubbles, over-inflated prices reflecting no real value? When the bubble pops, it lets the air out of the bag and prices fall closer their real value. That's what America's $880 billion dollar defense budget reflects: decades and decades of inflated costs not reflecting its real value. The vaunted Javelin missile or Patriot missile systems for example, turn out to be nothing but examples of shrinkflation.
Is it possible to recover some of the stolen value and costs in the decades and decades of inflated values appropriated in the US government's #1 budget priority? No. Cause that cash was paid in labor and service costs, consumed long ago, and it doesn't exist in stockpiles of manufactured goods.
This is how miscalculations occur, for example thinking the Russian Federation's GDP was smaller than Spain or the Netherlands. The entire US economy became bloated and overvalued relative to comparisons with other nations, which is reflected in global statistics due the US dollars status in the global financial system. The US taxpayer has eaten the cost - through inflation - over decades and decades while at the same time creating the military industrial complex bubble, which was paid out in research, labor, maintenance and service costs, and not building the appropriate stockpile reserves needed in the event of war with a peer power.
Much more on this to come. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:52, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Antifa France
WATCH: Leftist Radicals Riot in France Despite Victory for Far-Left in Snap Elections. Scary as hell. I'm sure it will boost morale among its parallels here, in our country.Telling (talk)
Project 2025 a beautiful, comprehensive platform for Christian Nationalism and Conservatism
As a longtime advocate of Christian Nationalism, I am pleasantly surprised (and in fact positively thrilled) to see such a well thought-out advocacy for it in Project 2025. Now, Liberal Wiki has a very lengthy page on Project 2025 up (and we need to get ours on Conservapedia up next - will do that after this post) but all you need to know is, if P2025 is Pro-Christian Nationalism, Godless, Liberal Wiki will be against it. No surprises there, but this was exactly why Conservapedia was founded. To do ideological battle with and demonstrate we are the superior alternative to Wikipedia when it comes to getting Truth out there, and we don't take refuge under the phony pretext of a supposed neutrality. One cannot in fact be "neutral" between Light and darkness without soon going blind. One must choose the side of Light, of objective Truth, such as CN. Christ is King of kings, and it is righteous and just that the nations of this world embrace Him as their King and publicly proclaim His Teaching as the basis for flourishing societies.
Liberal Wiki on P2025 and it's Pro-CN platform: "As the leader of the Center for Renewing America, Project 2025 contributor Russell Vought has spearheaded an effort to instill precepts of Christian nationalism into government and public life should Trump win a second term. In a 2021 opinion piece, Vought wrote that Christian nationalism "recognizes America as a Christian nation" and makes "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society." According to Vought, "Christians are under assault", and he sought to use his regular contacts with Trump to "elevate Christian nationalism as a focal point" should Trump be reelected president. Vought has close ties with another former Trump administration official, Christian nationalist William Wolfe, who, in an online manifesto, seeks to implement a Bible-based system of government whereby "Christ-ordained civil magistrates" exercise authority over the American public.[93]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Christian_nationalism
And from their official website: "WASHINGTON—The Heritage Foundation announced today that its 2025 Presidential Transition Project has reached 100 coalition partners." https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-reaches-100-coalition-partners-continues-grow-preparation-next-president Christian values will ensure society never again descends to Atheistic, Abortionist, Woke, Liberal values. If we really mean "Never Again" in reference to the ongoing Abortion Holocaust, CN is the Clear Solution. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:34, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
Started the page. It's live here: https://www.conservapedia.com/Project_2025 God Bless. Will also send an email to CP team members. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
The "National Rally" was literally founded by Vichyite Nazi-Fascist socialists
Oh well, Andy's a proud Orange Bolshevist, so I guess this socialisymping checks out. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:56, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- What percentage of the French population migrated to England and North Africa with De Gaulle after the Fall of France 1940? Who, other than the Communist Party of France, remained to oppose the Vichy Regime and Nazism? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:43, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Didn't the international Communists only resume their supposed "fight" against Nazi-Fascism after the end of the Communazi Era in 1941? —
LTRev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:53, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Didn't the international Communists only resume their supposed "fight" against Nazi-Fascism after the end of the Communazi Era in 1941? —
- Number 1, and I can't understate the importance of this fact enough - everything you've been led to believe today about France in World War II is leftover, stale Anglo-American war propaganda from World War II, which wasn't true then, and is no more true today than it was then. It's one reason French, and most Europeans, laugh at how gullible, stupid, and naive Americans are - cause they never believed it and they know the truth. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:07, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- The idea that France was a "victor" in World War II is total balderdash (to put it politely). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:09, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- You know how many of De Gaulle's troops "stormed the beaches of Normandy" to liberate their own country? 177. Mostly "advisors". And they weren't anywhere near the first wave. And this was only after De Gaulle acquiesced, cause he didn't want to send any. By contrast, New Zealand, with a fraction of the population and halfway around the world, had its own front.
- So you're going to have to dig mighty deep, over an extended period of time (largely due to language barriers and appropriately qualifying sources) to arrive at anything approximating the truth. Just begin with the known fact that if its a source in English from WWII, it's for the most part 98-99% bs, until you pick up the proper skills of analytical discernment. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:25, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Calling the bulk of the French population who remained in France under Vichy regime, who were excluded from politics in the Cold War period because they did not support leftist ideology or communism, and were represented by the National Front founded by Le Pen's father - calling them "fascist" - is itself "communist propaganda". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:40, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Vichy itself was a Nazi-Communist regime. Ever heard of the French National-Collectivist Party? —
LTRev. 22:13 Tuesday, 21:47, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Vichy itself was a Nazi-Communist regime. Ever heard of the French National-Collectivist Party? —
- Maybe.
- Man,
you got your head screwed up your behind referring to Vichy as "Nazi-Communist".You need some more research (not from contemporaneous or ex post facto English language sources) on Vichy France. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:17, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Man,
- On second thought, maybe you have a point; it did come into existence during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. But we need more, or better clarity for English-speaking readers. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:20, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Fascism as a whole in its "original" incarnations was very economically interventionist and implemented welfare programs. As for Vichy France, I believe "Neither Right Nor Left" makes a good case for why classifying Franco-Fascism as exclusively "right-wing" is naively lopsided in ignoring a few dynamics. The Vichyite core was "traditionalist" and reactionary, though simultaneously socialistically radical. —
LTRev. 22:13 Tuesday, 00:24, July 9, 2024 (EDT)- That's the people whose grandchildren the National Front & National Rally represent. They neither picked up guns to fight the Germans, nor are communists or leftists. They essentially are "centrists", but accused of being collaborators and fascists in post-war France. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:32, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Fascism as a whole in its "original" incarnations was very economically interventionist and implemented welfare programs. As for Vichy France, I believe "Neither Right Nor Left" makes a good case for why classifying Franco-Fascism as exclusively "right-wing" is naively lopsided in ignoring a few dynamics. The Vichyite core was "traditionalist" and reactionary, though simultaneously socialistically radical. —
OH look. Ol' Fauci "decided" Biden's fit
Fauci says he has ‘no doubt’ Biden is capable of continuing as president. So, that makes it alright now.Telling (talk) 22:11, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- That makes it MPR-worthy: "82-year-old demented Dr. Fauci gives Biden clean bill of health". I wish the ICJ would hurry up and issue a subpoena like they did for Putin; they've been looking at the criminal complaint now for years. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:20, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- Biden death watch consumes Democrats - may not be the last word for a while. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:26, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
- He's predicting a GOP win of the Senate with Manchin & Sinema out; the GOP already has 50 seats. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:23, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings (Cook Political Report)
Cook Political Report: Six States Move Toward Trump in Electoral College Ratings. more: The Cook Political Report shifted three states — Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada — from “toss-up” to “lean Republican” and shifted two other states, Minnesota and New Hampshire, from “likely” to “lean Democrat.” Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District also shifted from “likely” to “lean” Democrat. This is HUGE...Telling (talk) 19:29, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Six states shift toward GOP in wake of Biden nominee angst: Cook Political Report, Washington Examiner. July 9, 2024. Conservative (talk) 19:41, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Thanks Conservative for posting that more (openly) informative link.Telling (talk) 22:51, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Your welcome. Conservative (talk) 23:13, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Thanks Conservative for posting that more (openly) informative link.Telling (talk) 22:51, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
Democrats panic after Sleepy Joe's pathetic Debate Performance
Back to Trump. Apparently, some Democrats are panicking after Sleepy Joe Biden's lousy debate performance that Biden can't beat Trump:
"Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., said during an interview on CNN that he doesn't believe Biden can win a second term, warning that it could be a "landslide" victory for Trump. “Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this election and maybe win it by a landslide,” said Bennet, who unsuccessfully ran against Biden in 2020.
He added that if Biden loses, it could also cost Democrats more seats in the House and their slim majority in the Senate.
"This isn't a question of polling; it's not a question of politics. It's a moral question about the future of our country," he said, adding later, "I think that we could lose the whole thing."
It may not be as bad (good, for us) as he says, but definitely there's a great opportunity for a landslide victory here, if Republicans pray and work hard, and don't carelessly compromise values." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:42, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony
Yet another almost infallible proof of the necessity of Christian Nationalism in a tweet retweeted by Elon Musk - Musk's been doing a good job becoming more Conservative of late.
"Who are these “activists”? the original tweet: "Activists oppose California bill that makes child prostitution a felony. Their reason? "LGBTQ people ... are more likely to be charged with sex offenses" https://x.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1810662654555402441 https://notthebee.com/article/a-california-bill-would-make-it-a-felony-to-solicit-a-minor-for-sex--can-you-guess-which-group-of-people-came-out-against-it?from_social=twitter
See the immoral madness to which denying Christian Nationalism and its necessity inevitably leads. Now, they want Pedophilia and Child Prostitution. Smh. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:14, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
'Everyone Asia' Unites 11,000 Believers From 46 Nations
https://www.klove.com/news/faith/everyone-asia-unites-11-000-believers-from-46-nations-50999 "The EVERYONE ASIA conference convened on July 3, 2024, with an electrifying opening session led by Dr. Niko Njotoradardjo (Chair of the Empowered21 Asian Cabinet) and worship artists from across Indonesia. The two-and-a-half-day event, sponsored by the Empowered21 (E21) Asian Cabinet and held at the Sentul International Conference Center, brought together more than 11,000 Spirit-empowered Christians from 46 nations." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
The Dems are ridin' with Biden
With the support of the Congressional Black Caucus, Joe Biden can stay on as nominee for as long as he likes. "We're ridin' with Biden," as Jim Clyburn, leader of the caucus, put it. Sorry, Dem elites, late night comedy hosts, and liberal media mavens. You don't count. Biden has virtually no campaign and no prospect of winning in November. He is collecting donor money and putting it in the bank. I assume Jill and Hunter will split it. This is democracy? I don't buy the argument that its too late to change the nominee. Traditionally, the nominee was chosen at the convention, which hasn't been held yet.
The only person who is being mentioned as an alternative to Biden is Kamala. Switching Biden for Kamala seems a bit pointless. PeterKa (talk) 09:02, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- So far, for the GOP is even better if he stays... BTW in 'leftism' Kamala is far worse.Telling (talk) 09:09, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Trump came up with an original label yesterday: "laughin' Kamala".Dianne3000 (talk) 14:46, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Shouldn't the slogan be "We're ridin' with Biden?" I'm not sure the power-brokers against Biden are going to lose ... Biden still has to pass more tests, like a press conference on Thursday and another debate.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:25, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- The most startling revelation to come out of the Stephanopoulos interview is that Biden is satisfied, "As long as I gave it my all," like American politics is a little league participation trophy. If he blows up the Democratic Party, that's apparently not his problem. PeterKa (talk) 21:11, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I like "cackling Kamala"; maybe Trump figures some people don't know what a cackle is. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- I agree, 'cackling' would have been a far better choice. It might also be, that fear of using too harsh of a word which will trigger being called a "racist" by the other side (though mentined briefly Former President Donald Trump (left) has tried out different nicknames for Vice President Kamala Harris (right), like "Laffin' Kamala Harris" and "Cackling Copilot Kamala Harris.").Dianne3000 (talk) 07:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- 'Cackling' is like 'Malarkey'. If you have to explain it, it loses its effectiveness. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:59, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- I agree, 'cackling' would have been a far better choice. It might also be, that fear of using too harsh of a word which will trigger being called a "racist" by the other side (though mentined briefly Former President Donald Trump (left) has tried out different nicknames for Vice President Kamala Harris (right), like "Laffin' Kamala Harris" and "Cackling Copilot Kamala Harris.").Dianne3000 (talk) 07:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- I like "cackling Kamala"; maybe Trump figures some people don't know what a cackle is. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- The most startling revelation to come out of the Stephanopoulos interview is that Biden is satisfied, "As long as I gave it my all," like American politics is a little league participation trophy. If he blows up the Democratic Party, that's apparently not his problem. PeterKa (talk) 21:11, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Shouldn't the slogan be "We're ridin' with Biden?" I'm not sure the power-brokers against Biden are going to lose ... Biden still has to pass more tests, like a press conference on Thursday and another debate.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:25, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Trump came up with an original label yesterday: "laughin' Kamala".Dianne3000 (talk) 14:46, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC
Says it all. "Amber Rose, feminist “sl*twalk” organizer, to speak at RNC."
https://x.com/AFpost/status/1810449615184896491 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:40, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
- In an effort to bring in Gen Z?Telling (talk)
- Diversity is our strength. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:12, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Latest Taqiyya
Latest Taqiyya: The exposed Islamic Republic of Iran's agents posing as "activists" at "protests" (as well as funding, apart from Al Jazeera's Qatar (this oiled Arab country has also been bribing US universities for long), is like the Muslim Brothethood linked (SJP founder) Hatem Bazian exposed as guiding the JVP when caught tweeting "as Jews"... So is Pallywood (too many examples, despite efforts discrediting). Or the sites with endings: .tr/ .ir / .ps Telling (talk)
- Two years ago the Islamists were caught Iran accused of sowing Israel discontent with fake Jewish Facebook group. Heck, I've seen both, Iranian and "palestinian" Arab-Muslims posing as "Christians" and at times even as "white supremacists"...too. LOL.Dianne3000 (talk) 09:08, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- We have a Taqiyya page. Feel free to bring it up to date (we'd like to get it up to 30,000+ page views). Thanks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Kudos RobS. Will take a look.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:06, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- We have a Taqiyya page. Feel free to bring it up to date (we'd like to get it up to 30,000+ page views). Thanks. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Why is Candace Owens turning to Hitlerite apologetics?
Spoiler: it's the same reason Pope Francis has now shifted to the "right" from his "leftist" reputation, from denouncing surrogacy to rebuking "gender" surgery to more blatant pushback against the homosexualist agenda that's been clearly consistent. The answer is simple: the liberal ecumenical era has done its job and is over, so the Jesuit/Maltese/Vatican agenda is ready to revert back to its old ultramonatanist Papal-Caesarist ways in preparation for the final Antichrist agenda.
Given Owens's conversion to Catholicism a few months ago, guess who her bosses are? —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 11:36, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- First, Owens' Hitler rant in 2019 was also embrassing for us conservatives. She is one more (using the mask:) "anti zionist" Hitler-apologetic. (What on earth has "anti zionism" to do with denying Mengele's monstrous horrors?) I think our friend Rob here has noted about her low IQ. It's certainly a contributor. At least Kamala is above her grade, which is not a compliment...Telling (talk) 12:39, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Just like neo nazis use the "Z_og" label... She also said that there was "almost" [sic] ethnic cleansing in the Holocaust vs "real" ethnic cleansing of Germans... Hence her black race would be "almost" cleansed by the "master race"? Point is, it's not just ignorance it's malicious sicknessDianne3000 (talk) 13:17, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- IMO, what she's saying to black Democrats is, 'not all WWII narratives are the gospel truth'. But you can't just say that and leave people hanging. You need to be specific on what was propaganda then, and what are known facts now. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Re Telling's Owens vs Owens. Jesse owned the Nazis but Candace is owened now (as in slang use).Dianne3000 (talk) 14:11, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith, please: Hitlerite apologetics has nothing to do with convincing ethnic minorities to leave the Democratic Plantation. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:45, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- IMO, what she's saying to black Democrats is, 'not all WWII narratives are the gospel truth'. But you can't just say that and leave people hanging. You need to be specific on what was propaganda then, and what are known facts now. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:46, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- All Nazis are anti-Zionist? Guess who said the following: "I am a Zionist too. I want every Jew to leave for Palestine." And another architect of the Final Solution said of the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them [the Zionists]." There's also a modern case example.
- Maybe this makes me a Comsymp, but I have a feeling that Lenni Brenner was on to something. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:43, July 11, 2024 (EDT) - Oh oy, of course with this sad latest tendencies you would choose Brenner, that canard on Zionists (again that misreading) how dare they helped save Jews? Of course German Nazis wanted to ethnic cleanse Europe, to get rid of the Jews into Palestine before the 1941 Wannsea conference when Hitler saw that there is a concensus to exterminate them all. Hitler stopped it already in 1937. Yes, Arab supremacists are very angry about it that Jews are saved. In 1938 Hitler spoke for Palestinian Arabs against the Jews in Palestine. Arabs Hail Hitler As Liberator.
It was mutual [17] And indeed: Hitler hated the Zionists, and thought their country was meant to be a refuge for crooks and thieves . Richard Spencer is the exception. How dare you label Eichmann a "zionist"? With your latest SKEWED reasearch" how many Jews did Zionists save 1933-7?Telling (talk) 19:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Telling, the Zionists in large part didn't save the Jews. The only ones they "saved" were the Zionist fringe minority (or at least some fractional minority willing to acquiesce to Zionist emigration demands), as the majority of European Jewry were anti-Zionist. (see Alfred M. Lilienthal's What Price Israel?) Both then and now, the highest levels of Zionist leadership have always been more than happy to throw dissident anti-Zionist Jews under the bus. (when was the last time the ADL condemned Zionist harassment of NK?) They sabotaged Jewish anti-Nazi resistance, with both the left and right wings of Zionism highly complicit in the scheme. Chaim Weizmann eerily said: "only the branch of the young shall survive." Then there's the Communazi (literally speaking) Stern Gang (Lehi) assassins who committed atrocities against Palestinian civilians; one of them was Yizhak Shamir.
- The effort of AJCongress patriots (of course, Stephen Wise later became a quiet Nazi collaborator and suppressed news of the Holocaust) along with the Non-Sectarian Anti-Nazi League—to boycott the Nazi economy to ruin—was undermined by opposition from the B'nai B'rith–American Jewish Committee gang and the socialist Labor Zionists who saved the Nazi economy in the Haavara Agreement. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:16, July 11, 2024 (EDT)- Can you find a better "source" than Jacobin? You wee asked you since you claim to have "researched" that period. How many Jews did they save in Haavara? If you want to ask me what I think about Zionists efforts I can reply - trust me it was not all rosy. I can also tell you if I resoect Zionists more ir less tgmhan Haredim who refuse to serve in IDF (not related to the tiny group Neturei Karta per se). But that is if you wish to know and not propagate your war on ADL and all major Jewish organizations. All that criticism on Zionists icons have nothing to do with the noble Zionist idea or to switch it around and peddle anti zionist canards which today is a veiled anti Jewush war. Intentional or not. So far, what you implied is that Hitler and all those nazis who were eager to get rid of the Jews begore they saw it's possible just to exterminate...were so called Z. Regards.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- The Weizmann quote should be well-substantiated all over the place; you can look it up yourself, Dianne3000. As to Haavara, yes, some tens of thousands of Jews were saved. Unfortunately not in the millions to the extent of preventing the Holocaust from happening. IOWs, a minority of German Jewry willing to acquiesce to Zionism were rescued, while the anti-Zionist majority were targeted by the Nazi regime. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT) - Now, I know someone out there, sooner or later, is bound to argue, "but what about the anti-Zionist German National Jews?" That group was highly fringe with zero real standing/influence, and the Nazis hardly tolerated them. OTOH, the Nazis "favoured Zionists over other Jews, citing their common nationalist ideals." (Tamar Wolofsky, "The Unlikely Entente: Collaborations Between Zionism and National Socialism fore the Second World War," p. 63)
- The Weizmann quote should be well-substantiated all over the place; you can look it up yourself, Dianne3000. As to Haavara, yes, some tens of thousands of Jews were saved. Unfortunately not in the millions to the extent of preventing the Holocaust from happening. IOWs, a minority of German Jewry willing to acquiesce to Zionism were rescued, while the anti-Zionist majority were targeted by the Nazi regime. —
- Can you find a better "source" than Jacobin? You wee asked you since you claim to have "researched" that period. How many Jews did they save in Haavara? If you want to ask me what I think about Zionists efforts I can reply - trust me it was not all rosy. I can also tell you if I resoect Zionists more ir less tgmhan Haredim who refuse to serve in IDF (not related to the tiny group Neturei Karta per se). But that is if you wish to know and not propagate your war on ADL and all major Jewish organizations. All that criticism on Zionists icons have nothing to do with the noble Zionist idea or to switch it around and peddle anti zionist canards which today is a veiled anti Jewush war. Intentional or not. So far, what you implied is that Hitler and all those nazis who were eager to get rid of the Jews begore they saw it's possible just to exterminate...were so called Z. Regards.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:31, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- [EC] Both the Nazis and Zionists had a shared goal of kicking the Jews out of Europe. As sorry as I am to say this, the Zionists jointly facilitated the Holocaust with the chief Nazi mass-murder thugs to wipe out the anti-Zionist majority of European Jewry and goad the remainder into moving to Palestine (the Nazi trope of "Judeo-Bolshevism" was an ever-so-convenient attack on the left-wing Jews who distrusted Zionism as a reactionary conspiracy). This is the harsh truth almost no one wants to talk about though needs to be said, and I'm getting very tired of suppressed history remaining suppressed just to please the IHRA/ADL/AJC apparatus which egotistically thinks they alone get to selectively weaponize the Holocaust and decide what amounts to "antisemitism." (and I'm sure RobSmith is familiar with all these facts; I'm very certain he probably avoids these topics to refrain from affronting you, Telling)
- If you understand my intrinsic point that Zionism does not genuinely represent the interests of the Jewish people, hopefully all this can be understood with considerably less offense. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:37, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
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- LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now? Syre.. which major Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"?Telling (talk) 19:41, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- [EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:44, July 11, 2024 (EDT)- LT, pardon me for saying so but, you're pulling a "Ken", speaking on things you haven't a clue about. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- [EC] Telling, you similarly cited what Hitler thought/said to "prove" that he was supposedly anti-Zionist. The key here is distinguishing when evil people propagate lies and when they make truthful admissions which serve as bombshell, damning incriminating confessions. —
- LT. You use Eichnann propaganda language to make it as a "fact?" What if he said "I'm a hew lover," would you have taken it also as a fact? Are you playing naiive now? Syre.. which major Jewish organization to your "satisfaction"?Telling (talk) 19:41, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
Candance Owens boldly tells Don Lemon: Same sex "marriage" is sin
https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1811479900970254521 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:58, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- It's a shame Owens is shilling for Hitler, a homosexual prostitute. (see Samuel Igra's book Germany's National Vice) —
LTRev. 22:13 Thursday, 18:49, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
occultic Anglo-Jesuit rubbish
I was talking to a nutjob named DeMyer some time ago and he peddled the obnoxious Marcionite dispensationalist view of Ezekiel 38–39 being fulfilled in the current Israel–Palestine War. Of course, this is a bunch of utter occultic, reactionary propaganda peddled by the cabalistic Anglo-Masonic operative Lord Palmerston and Jesuitic tools John Darby and Cyrus Scofield. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:01, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Here we go: Occultic cabalistic Catholic Anglo-Masonic bolshevic Hindu Christian Jihad Amish Zionists Samaritans...Dianne3000 (talk) 19:19, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
